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  Furlough - Paid Leave, for how long I don't know...
Posted by: BirminghamUK - 03-27-2020, 02:23 PM - Forum: Child Maintenance, Finances etc - Replies (1)

I've been put on Furlough along with select few, everyone in my company will be having a 20% reduction in pay and everyone is being asked to scrap the pension contribution payment.

should I inform CMS, will it make a difference?


on another note. child contact will be reduced as a result of COVID-19........ I've only just recently applied for a variation... and its on the cusp of me being granted some variation to the amount I need to pay, anyone have any idea what happens next?

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  Law & Corinavirus
Posted by: Charlie7000 - 03-25-2020, 11:17 PM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - Replies (17)

Here’s everything in a nutshell re child arrangements orders and coronavirus - the legal position. It basically says that during this period any written agreements between parents will be classed as a temporary legal variation of the CAO. It also says that if one parent makes a unilateral decision to vary the CAO- eg for health or other risk reasons then there must be regular Skype, WhatsApp etc contact with the other parent. And that if in future the reasons for the unilateral decision are unreasonable then that will be judged.

So basically children must still have regular contact with both parents. If one or other feels it is not safe for them going back and forth they can agree temporary alternative arrangements between them and it will be a legal variation. But if one doesn’t agree then in future it will be looked at what damage that parent has done by preventing contact and there must be regular electronic contact at least.

And yes an ex could say they’re not coming as I am high risk- but then you show them this and say there must be regular Skype and WhatsApp because Sir Andrew Macfarlane said so.


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  Coronavirus government guidance
Posted by: Albion - 03-24-2020, 09:55 AM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - No Replies

Good morning,

I'm finding the following guidance from the government on separated parenting arrangements at the current time quite useful:

Please be aware that this could change with the situation:



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  Seeing my kids during the Coronavirus lockdown
Posted by: Secret-squirrel100 - 03-24-2020, 01:37 AM - Forum: Fathers’ Rights, Legal Info, Court Orders - Replies (2)

Following the announcement made by the PM Boris Johnson this evening in relation to Britain going into 'lockdown' because of the Coronavirus pandemic, I have a question if anybody can answer or advise regarding these unprecedented times.

I have 3 children who live with my ex approximately 3 miles away from my house who I have both direct and indirect contact with, although we are still going through court proceedings (but due to the current situation I am guessing the next court hearing in June will get postponed). 

I am a 'key worker' and so is my ex although I work full time on the railway and my ex works part-time in a nursing home for the elderly. Between us we have mutually agreed that because the children are not at school I would have my children as much as I could between shifts and days off so I can continue working and also my ex can work her part-time hours as well.

Before today the arrangements were that I would pick up the children from their home and I would bring them back to my house and my ex would then pick them up on her way back from work which we had mutually agreed to do. 

However, now that tougher restrictions have been imposed this may make things a little more difficult in order to do this as one of the quotes that Boris Johnson said was:

"You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home"

Now, does that mean that I am not allowed to pick up my children, or my ex can drop them round to me because my children do not live with me? But as I am a key worker do I have the right to go outside of my house (regardless if I am in uniform or not) and pick up my kids? Likewise, could my ex, who is also a key worker have the right to do the same? As she is a key worker and needs to get to her job what are the exact rules and regulations on this?

If I was to leave my house and pick up my children and I get stopped by the police I could get into serious trouble and face a hefty fine or prison sentence which I obviously do not want so this is where I need some help and guidance if possible what to do and what my rights are, if any.

I am not sure if anybody really knows as this has just come into force and i doubt even my solicitor would know the answer to this just yet.

Does anybody have any suggestions or advice they can offer me, please?

These are certainly unprecedented times and I wish everyone to stay safe and healthy and to stay at home where possible so we can get out of this awful nightmare we are all trapped in.

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  Daughter packed off to mothers sister
Posted by: tempe_arizona - 03-23-2020, 10:35 AM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - Replies (3)

Hi all,

I have a court order in place, my 4 year old daughter "lives with" her mum in and I have her over here every other weekend.

Arrangements were working fine until last week, when she informed me that she had lost her part time job and was taking up a full time job for the interim and was packing my daughter off to her sisters miles away for the week, as all nurseries were closed and her parents are apparently in the corona at risk group. She didn't ask me whether I could have her for the week first, I expect this is finance related (i.e. she doesn't want to lose any maintenance money)

She then said in a phone argument that her sister was staying with her to placate me as I flat out refused this idea. But after I took daughter back last night, I got a message from her saying my daughter was now at sisters house, she's refused to provide her address but has provided her phone number for our weekly teleconf call.

I'm really worried this will become more than a temporary arrangement, I don't trust her sister as far as I could throw her and its in my daughters best interest to have stability

1. can she do this?
2. there's been no cafcass assessment of the sisters home. is this legal?

Pondering whether to ring social services about this as its a high conflict situation.

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  Corona implications
Posted by: BirminghamUK - 03-22-2020, 10:33 PM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - Replies (2)

I normally attend contact centre every two weeks, in London, was supposed to have one yesterday but I opted out due to the virus and conern over everyones health. It's much worse over there.

Should me opting out still affect the weekly email I get and the weekly whatsapp call I'm entitled to? I'm wondering if they might use this opportunity to not comply with court order, they're defence may be "well he didnt attend to see his daughter, he broke the agreement"

I have a FHDRA for order variation coming up over the next two weeks which may (remotely maybe) or may not take place.

Any advice please?

I will off course raise this as an issue on the next hearing.

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  CAFCASS-Covid-19-Advice for families on effective co-parenting and child arrangements
Posted by: JamW - 03-22-2020, 05:38 PM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - No Replies

Helpful advise published by CAFCASS in light of the pandemic.

The pdf can be found under "Advice for families on effective co-parenting and child arrangements" at:

"Unless there are justified medical/self-isolation issues – or some future nationally issued guidance or expectation associated with leaving the house in your area – children should also maintain their usual routine of spending time with each of their parents. If there is a Child Arrangements Order in place this should be complied with unless to do so would put your child, or others at risk. This will help your child to feel a sense of consistency, whilst also reassuring them that the parent they don't always live with is safe and healthy."

"Unless you or your child has an underlying health condition or other vulnerability, transporting them from one home to the other would usually be a legitimate journey (based on the current government guidance)."

Remember social distancing and self-isolation are two separate things as per official guidance.

Social distancing refers to the avoidance of close interaction with other people in groups or public places.

Self-isolation refers to isolating yourself at home away from everybody for 14 days (the incubation period) if you develop any of the Covid-19 symptoms, however mild. The 14 days start from the day the first symptom is noticed.

Following this 14 day period the self-isolation ceases.

If your symptoms worsen at any stage you would need to dial NHS 111.

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  Contact Centre Closure
Posted by: Sb1353 - 03-21-2020, 05:55 PM - Forum: Contact & Residence Issues, Problems with Child Arrangements - Replies (3)

I have had a phone call from contact centre saying that they will be closing the centre for foreseeable future and therefore children cannot come and I cannot see them. They were sympathetic but I don’t know where I stand with this. There is no communication between ex and I so it can’t be agreed as an alternative. Does anyone else have the same issue?

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Posted by: Cheese_head_1986 - 03-16-2020, 03:59 PM - Forum: Fathers’ Rights, Legal Info, Court Orders - Replies (7)

Hi dad's

Do you need to try mediation before trying to enforce an order? Or can you just apply directly to court?


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  mediation, costs
Posted by: avadad - 03-15-2020, 09:05 PM - Forum: Fathers’ Rights, Legal Info, Court Orders - Replies (1)

how many times do i get mediation,, ive paid once, 120 pounds, how many sittings do you get confussed here, Huh

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