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What Organisations Help With Rights for Dads?

By: Chris Nickson - Updated: 2 May 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
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All too often, separated and divorced fathers feel they’re alone. Women have support groups of all kinds, but the men can seem left out in the cold. If they feel a sense of injustice in the way the courts have treated them, over access or other issues, they might feel quite isolated.

But there are a number of different groups that work on behalf of men. In most instances they’ve been formed by men themselves from a sense of outrage. Some – for better or worse – have received a fair amount of media coverage, but most operate largely under the radar of publicity.

They do share a lot of common goals, especially fighting for the rights of fathers, which some of them believe have been trampled by the rights of mothers, and that fathers often never receive a fair deal in court.

Fathers4Justice

Probably the best-known group is Fathers4Justice, which was formed in 2003 by Matt O’Connor after a bad divorce meant he had no regular access to his children. Their tactics, such as pelting the Prime Minister with condoms in Parliament, or the alleged kidnap plot against the PM’s son, have given them a great deal of publicity, most of it very unfavourable to the cause of fathers. But there’s no doubt that, as a pressure group, they’ve highlighted the plight of a number of fathers. In 2005, a spin-off group, Real Fathers for Justice, emerged.

Other Organisations

Families Need Fathers is, as the name implies, aimed primarily at fathers, but extends its services to mothers, grandparents and others, too. Its aim is to keep all the parties involved with their children. They particularly work with fathers undergoing separation and worried about access, helping them reach agreements to remain close to their children, and have excellent resources, including branches across the country, workshops, and a great deal more. It’s far more low-key than Fathers4Justice, and has been around a few decades now.

Also worth noting is the Fatherhood Institute, although this isn’t an advocate for separated fathers in the same ways as the others. Founded in 1999 (reportedly with the support of the government), it does support co-operative parenting, and has a number of publications for fathers, with the intent of keeping fathers as strong role models.

The Equal Parenting Council works for both parents being involved with their children after separation or divorce, and its long-term goal is to change the family justice system. It can help parents – not just men - with Cafcass and negotiate the Family Court System.

BabyFather is aimed specifically at fathers in the black community, working with the charity Barnado’s. Founded in 2002, it runs a number of programmes, and has begun a couple of training and consultancy services to help absent fathers become more involved with their children, and also focuses on the particular problems of black families.

For those living in the Nottingham area, Men United Fathers Network works for fathers in all situations, not simply those seeking greater access to their children, but as a parenting organisation. Other areas, such as Hull, also have groups for fathers.

Finally, there’s Parentline Plus. As the name says, it’s not solely for fathers, but it can help, with a 24-hour helpline that’s confidential. They also have phone support groups, and message boards on their website that can be useful to fathers.

Check out the Separated Dads Forum... It's a great resource where you can ask for advice on topics including Child Access, Maintenance, CAFCASS, Fathers Rights, Court, Behaviour or simply to have a chat with other dads.

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Doc - Your Question:
Hello all ,looking for advise on fathers rights.what rights do we act have?what support is there out there for us.please help me.

Our Response:
There are no 'specific' rights. Anything you cannot agree with your children's other parent, should be resolved through mediation, or court, please see link here and here.
SeparatedDads - 3-May-18 @ 2:43 PM
Hello all ,looking for advise on fathers rights .what rights do we act have?what support is there out there for us .please help me .
Doc - 2-May-18 @ 9:48 PM
Friend - Your Question:
Hi Folks!I have A good friend who has experienced, this past 3 months, mental and physical turmoil and describes himself as a basket case. He has lost 2 and a half stone and is a bit of an emotional wreck. His wife has walked out on him, taken thousands of pounds worth of valuables, all the house and business paperwork , including bank statements , business assets , family car and his only child (9 year old daughter). He is in his late 50's, hardly able to hold it together at the moment and appears at times as though he is about to burst. It is worrying to witness his bouts of verbal and physical enragement. I'm increasingly worried for his health and well being. Can someone please advise who I can contact that may be able to help my troubled friend.

Our Response:
I am sorry to hear this and it is understandable that he feels this way, as many individuals do when a family splits apart. Apart from the advice laid out in the article, you can see more via the NHS link here , as losing your family can bring about similar emotions to bereavement. Likewise, all the articles on the Separated Dads pages aim to help, as does the forum which is run by volunteers and can help your friend if he wishes to find out more from both a practical and emotional angle. If he has a good friend such as you who is supporting him through this difficult time, it can be a massive help.
SeparatedDads - 20-Apr-18 @ 10:33 AM
Hi Folks! I have A good friend who has experienced, this past 3 months, mental and physical turmoil and describes himself as a basket case. He has lost 2 and a half stone and is a bit of an emotional wreck. His wife has walked out on him, taken thousands of pounds worth of valuables, all the house and business paperwork , including bank statements , business assets , family car and his only child (9 year old daughter). He is in his late 50's, hardly able to hold it together at the moment and appears at times as though he is about to burst. It is worrying to witness his bouts of verbal and physical enragement. I'm increasingly worried for his health and well being . Can someone please advise who I can contact that may be able to help my troubled friend.
Friend - 19-Apr-18 @ 7:03 PM
@UpsetFather - the main thing you have to watch out for is not slagging off your ex or badmouthing how your ex brings your kid up or her parenting skills. The court is not interested in mud-slinging towards ex's, they are interested in your child's welfare only. Unless you can prove any of the accusations you are making, I wouldn't bother. Concentrate on speaking about your son and ignore any temptation to bad-mouth your ex. Do the anger management course and anything the court requests you to do. Most standard access is every other weekend and possibly one night in the week. Remember, this is all about your son, so make sure it stays that way. Agree with everything and challenge nothing. If you work with the court the court will try and work with you. Best of luck.
AidenB - 29-Mar-18 @ 1:58 PM
Can someone please help me. I separated from my child's mother fully in June last year and since then she's made contact with my son beyond difficult, I tried mediation but she did not turn up so I decided to take her to court. There have been no domestic violence in any way. At the moment I see my son ONCE a week I pick him up on Friday and drop him off on Saturday at a time and place she's demanded with no compromise I don't even get 24 hours in a week with my child who I seen being brought into this world and spent 99% of the days he's been here with him until we split. After a few adjournments because of allegations she made which meant I've got to do an anger management course on her say so I've built a relationship with our social worker to try and come to a middle ground of how much time I get to spend with my son and she's not budging I fear the courts won't serve justice and mean while my son gets passed around her friends and family before me. I am due in court again in may this year to hopefully at least get full weekends with my son which I still think isn't enough especially when the courts are now talking about alternative weekends. I don't really think I am explaining this as well as I should so for now I will leave it here and see if I can get some professional advice from this organisation, just to let you know there's a bucket full of incidents regarding my son in her care this includes cuts, bruises, burns, senial baby sitters, suicidal ex partners looking after my son and a mother who also drink drives. I decided to represent myself as I thought it would be a clear case of equal parenting how wrong I was please can I have advice on what I should do to make sure my son has the best outcome in this entire mess please. Thank you
UpsetFather - 29-Mar-18 @ 12:05 AM
Web - Your Question:
Hi, separated from my long term partner of 14 years 4 weeks ago now and she has stopped me seeing my two children through the week to just 1 day a weekend!This making it hard to even grab this opportunity also inturn damaging and making my relationship with my children weaker!What are the steps I need to get a fair shared parental responsibility please? as this is her last go at controlling our lives

Our Response:
Your only recourse would be to suggest mediation, please see link here and if your ex refuses, or the mediation process fails, then apply to court. Please see link here .
SeparatedDads - 27-Feb-18 @ 1:49 PM
Hi, separated from my long term partner of 14 years 4 weeks ago now and she has stopped me seeing my two children through the week to just 1 day a weekend! This making it hard to even grab this opportunity also inturn damaging and making my relationship with my children weaker! What are the steps I need to get a fair shared parental responsibility please? as this is her last go at controlling our lives
Web - 26-Feb-18 @ 9:52 AM
@George - only if the situation changes can the matter be referred back to court. So if she actually becomes homeless then you would be able to make a new application.
Danthe - 15-Jan-18 @ 2:23 PM
Hi, my ex wife and I have a final CAO for shared residence with the children living with her 5 nights fortnightly. When the children are with her, the youngest one doesn't attend a nursery, and the eldest is late for school on the most days. Ex has a room in a shared accommodation. Her current job is temporary and will end in 2 months. Due to her unwillingness/inability to find another job, she will end up being homeless. Is it possible to vary current CAO for the children to live with me?
George - 13-Jan-18 @ 1:30 PM
Welsh1 - Your Question:
Hi,All looking for some advice if anyone can provide.I need help I’ve cuurrently got my two children as me and my partner split recently when I asked her not to come back home after yet another telephone call screaming at me.One is registered disabled.The main reason I asked for my partner not to return is I wish to protect my children from there big brothers (another dad not meant in a bad way).There is so much involved that I can’t go into openly on here.However I’ve discovered today my partner has went via homeless and is speaker no to social workers and I’m scared I lose my kids.I have said full and equal visitation/custody but I want to be there legal guardianship so when I need to say enough is enough and remove them from a situation I can.I don’t mean remove forever but an individual situation that occurs then return later (sorry if that didn’t make sense)

Our Response:
If you fear for the safety of your children, then you would have to apply for a child arrangement order through the courts, please see link here. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. Until then, if you both have parental responsibility of the children, then you both have equal rights to keep the children in your care. Another way around the situation which should be considered before you take the matter to court, is to try to come to an arrangement through mediation, please see link here . However, any agreement made through mediation is not legally binding (unlike a court order). Therefore, you may wish to seek some professional legal advice in order to explore your options further.
SeparatedDads - 5-Jan-18 @ 10:40 AM
Hi, All looking for some advice if anyone can provide. I need help I’ve cuurrently got my two children as me and my partner split recently when I asked her not to come back home after yet another telephone call screaming at me. One is registered disabled. The main reason I asked for my partner not to return is I wish to protect my children from there big brothers (another dad not meant in a bad way). There is so much involved that I can’t go into openly on here. However I’ve discovered today my partner has went via homeless and is speaker no to social workers and I’m scared I lose my kids. I have said full and equal visitation/custody but I want to be there legal guardianship so when I need to say enough is enough and remove them from a situation I can. I don’t mean remove forever but an individual situation that occurs then return later (sorry if that didn’t make sense)
Welsh1 - 4-Jan-18 @ 12:07 AM
Hi I am in need of some guidance our son (21) his now ex girlfriend is having our grandchild in February 2018 . She and her family have told us that we will never see the baby and that our son will never be the dad to the child . Our son has taken this news very bad to the point of taking an overdose toend his life as he so so wants them both in his life . He is now getting help Vi the hospital for himself but as this year comes to an end and February will be here soon and the girlfriend says she will not put dads name on birth certificate and as I have read on many posts if he isn’t named he has no rights please if anyone has any advice will be very grateful Chris
Chrissy - 27-Dec-17 @ 8:36 AM
I am asking on behalf of my partner. Him and his ex have a 6yr old daughter recently herex’s boyfriend head butted his DD Mum and has restrained his DD. He was arrested but we found out today that she is planning on him moving back in, 6 yo told her Mum that it’s fine but has told us different and will be happy to live with us. Her mum is threatening to pick her up tomoro with the police. We want her to live with us to make sure she is safe and not seeing the violence (he’s been arrested numerous times... we found out today) where do we stand her Mum and my partner never married but he’s on the birth certificate. We are very worried about her :-( thanks
AJ - 26-Dec-17 @ 7:38 PM
joe - Your Question:
I have been told my a person I met that if I go onto the fathers for justice website I can ind a link where f4j will send me out a application form and relevant paperwork which I can fill in and propose it to the family court in order to see my daughter. I have been on the website and cannot see anything on this. I haven't seen my daughter for nearly a year now and my parents and myself really miss her. She is 18 months old and the judge put a restraining order out on myself and my family not to get in contact with my daughter or her mother last year when a certain situation arised and I had to go to court. I want to start with supervised visits and so on as I know it takes time but I feel lost and dont where to start will kindly appreciate any help or advice you could give me. Thankyou for your time and patients

Our Response:
You can download the C100 contact form to apply to court via the link here, if the restraining order has expired.
SeparatedDads - 14-Dec-17 @ 11:47 AM
I have been told my a person i met that if i go onto the fathers for justicewebsite i can ind a link where f4j will send me out a application form and relevant paperwork which i can fill in and propose it to the family court in order to see my daughter. I have been on the website and cannot see anything on this. I haven't seen my daughter for nearly a year now and my parents and myself really miss her. She is 18 months old and the judge put a restraining order out on myself and my family not to get in contact with my daughter orher mother last year whena certain situation arised and i had to go to court. I want to start with supervised visits and so on as i know it takes time but I feel lost and dont where to start will kindly appreciate any help or advice you could give me. Thankyou for your time and patients
joe - 13-Dec-17 @ 5:33 AM
Shell-shocked- Your Question:
I have been Married to a woman who has been suffering from a long time mental illness for at least 4 years.On her last long-term stay in hospital and after a long period of mental abuse and damaging behavior to myself and in some part my daughter, I moved out taking my 4 year old with me. We are now going through a custody hearing in the next few weeks. My wife has came out of hospital and has eather suddenly recovered or is still sick and hiding her symptoms. She has a letter from her doctor who says she is well enough to look after a child at present!I have had to all for access today and am grately worried about the situation. This situation is complicated futher by my wife's constant threats to take our 4 year old back to Oz with her. Can you please help me with some practical advice on dealing with this situation and how to deal with a divisive behavior.

Our Response:
There is little advice we can give here as much depends on both sides of the story, and the how the court views the situation, on the back of the report from Cafcass, please see link here . As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. It makes it impossible to predict what a court may decide. Much depends upon how long you have had your daughter in your care (the longer the better) and whether the court feels she is considered to be more stable in your care or in your wife's.
SeparatedDads - 1-Dec-17 @ 3:56 PM
I have been Married to a woman who has been suffering from a long time mental illness for at least 4 years. On her last long-term stay in hospital and after a long period of mental abuse and damaging behavior to myself and in some part my daughter, I moved out taking my 4 year old with me. We are now going through a custody hearing in the next few weeks. My wife has came out of hospital and has eather suddenly recovered or is still sick and hiding her symptoms. She has a letter from her doctor who says she is well enough to look after a child at present! I have had to all for access today and am grately worried about the situation. This situation is complicated futher by my wife's constant threats to take our 4 year old back to Oz with her. Can you please help me with some practical advice on dealing with this situation and how to deal with a divisive behavior.
Shell-shocked - 25-Nov-17 @ 12:33 PM
Corn - Your Question:
I found out I had a child who is 10 but I was never told about it and now she wants me yo pay after 10 years of not ever knowing about it do I have rights

Our Response:
If the mother of your child has made a previous claim to CMS/CSA and you avoided paying, then your ex can request back pay. However, if you were unaware you had a child and no payment was ever officially requested, then the mother cannot claim. However, she can make a claim from now and you would be deemed responsible for paying. If you are in doubt whether you are the father, then you would have to request a DNA test either directly and/or through the courts, please see link here . You would be expected to pay child maintenance until the test proved otherwise.
SeparatedDads - 28-Sep-17 @ 11:04 AM
I found out I had a child who is 10 but I was never told about it and now she wants me yo pay after 10 years of not ever knowing about it do I have rights
Corn - 27-Sep-17 @ 2:40 PM
Denise Morrell - Your Question:
My son is the father of 4 children which he is separated from their mother plays god with their lives allowing him to see them when it suits her. She has now moved with all the children and will not give us the address there are no restraining orders can she do this it is driving him and me insane please help

Our Response:
By law, if your son has parental responsibility of his children, then his ex should have requested his consent if she moved out of the area. If your son wishes to see his children (if his ex continues to refuse access) he would need to apply to court via a C100 order or a Specific Issue Order from which he can request the children are brought back to the area. However, he would be best to seek advice regarding which is the best order for him, please see link here .In addition, he would have to fill in a C4 form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child’s whereabouts. This will allow the court to put a trace on your children to allow your son to apply to court. If your son cannot afford legal representation he can self-litigate, please see link here . As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
SeparatedDads - 8-Sep-17 @ 11:39 AM
My son is the father of 4 children which he is separated from their mother plays god with their lives allowing him to see them when it suits her. She has now moved with all the children and will not give us the address there are no restraining orders can she do this it is driving him and me insane please help
Denise Morrell - 7-Sep-17 @ 12:36 PM
My ex partner is in temporary accommodation and says that our 3 children can not stay with me until they have been rehoused as this is a stipulation the local council has made, Can a local council enforce this as it only means I get to spend 9 hours a week with my children. Any advice would be greatful.
Dg1981 - 27-Jul-17 @ 1:53 PM
Me an my ex split up years ago I see my ladregular every week end his mum is now with some one else an has got a kid with him my son does not get on with mum's new partner an feels like he's getting pushed out an often tells me that he wants to live with me how would I go about doing this I no she would not agree to this but I know my lad would be better of an happier with me
Pete - 8-Jun-17 @ 3:22 PM
Mike - Your Question:
My ex moved out of the county we live in d to escape social service involvement with my children she went to Wales and claimed domestic violence to secure accommodation for herself and the children this was a complete lie I have never been violent toward her I have tried going to court to get this sorted but have been told it has to go to a fact finding hearing and I will need a barrister to represent me at a cost of a 1000+ per day I and my children are the innocent parties in all this and I have now had no physical contact with them for 9 months and no verbal contact for 4 months even though I am registered on the birth certificate can anyone help please

Our Response:
You do not need a barrister to represent you, you can represent yourself. Please see link here.
SeparatedDads - 3-May-17 @ 2:53 PM
My ex moved out of the county we live in d to escape social service involvement with my children she went to Wales and claimed domestic violence to secure accommodation for herself and the children this was a complete lie I have never been violent toward her I have tried going to court to get this sorted but have been told it has to go to a fact finding hearing and I will need a barrister to represent me at a cost of a 1000+ per day I and my children are the innocent parties in all this and I have now had no physical contact with them for 9 months and no verbal contact for 4 months even though I am registered on the birth certificate can anyone help please
Mike - 30-Apr-17 @ 12:16 AM
Hi I split with my partner couple of years ago since the split things have been very tense with her new partner and I was having contact with my children but after a incident where my ex and her new partner came and took the kids of me and I was involved in a tragic insident in the process they have stopped all contact to the point the children are locked behind closed doors so I can't see them. They have been given a non molestion order in this time due to me trying to contact them through solicitors. I am struggling to find financial help to get the contact back withmy children can anyone help .
Jimmy - 12-Apr-17 @ 1:17 PM
ezee - Your Question:
Hi the mother of my daughter has changed her name and been taking her abroad without my consent I really need to know what I can do about this. I can't seem to find any free advice.

Our Response:
If you disagree wit the mother taking your daughter out of the country without your consent, and you have parental responsibility for your child, then you can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order via the courts. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may permanently leave the area with their children. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads - 12-Apr-17 @ 11:42 AM
Hi the mother of my daughter has changed her name and been taking her abroad without my consent I really need to know what I can do about this. I can't seem to find any free advice.
ezee - 11-Apr-17 @ 4:51 PM
hi guys, as you mean know fathers are finally allowed to share parental leave, however employers are still discriminating against fathers by not paying them as much as mothers for the same leave, please sign and share this petition to put a stop to this: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/184885
ozzy - 16-Mar-17 @ 7:53 PM
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