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Child Support Issues: Letter Templates

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Letter Template Child Support

The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission is the governing organisation for all matter relating to child support (known until recently as the CSA). The rules are set to change slightly but child support itself is around to stay and there will always be a need for an organisation to regulate and administer payment collections. With that in mind we have produced a series of letter templates to accompany our guide to child support. The letters are self explanatory, just fill in your own details. The letter templates are as follows:

  1. Denying or questioning paternity of a child
  2. Disputing calculations made by the child support agency or your ex
  3. Requesting an end date for payments
  4. Asking for a breakdown of calculations
  5. Explaining about extenuating circumstances (rendering you unable to pay as much)
  6. Explaining a change in your circumstances

1. Letter denying or questioning paternity

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing in relation to the letter you sent me stating that I owe child maintenance in relation to [child's name and date of birth].

I deny / am unsure that I am the father of this child and so do not owe any child support.

The courts have not adjudicated on this matter and I was not married to the child's mother at any point between the child's conception and birth. I am willing to take a DNA test to settle the issue.

Please contact me within 7 working days to acknowledge receipt of this letter and detailing how the matter will proceed.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

2. Letter disputing calculations

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing to dispute the amount of child maintenance you stated I owe in your letter dated [enter date of letter stating amount you owe which you dispute]. In this letter you calculated my child maintenance at [amount].

I dispute this amount and calculate that my child maintenance amount should be [amount].

My calculation is based upon my net income at [amount] and paying for [number] children:

[child A name and date of birth]
[child B name and date of birth]

I am entitled to the following exemptions / discounts:

  • I am a student at [name of college / university].
  • I am a serving prisoner at [name of prison].
  • I am aged 16 or under
  • I have shared care of the above named children for [number] days / month.
  • I have [number] other children living with me - [name and date of birth of other children].

Please contact me within 7 working days if you dispute my calculated amount of child support.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

3. Letter about payment end date

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing to enquire when my child maintenance payments will stop.

I currently pay for [child A and date of birth]
and
[child B and date of birth].

I calculate that they will turn 16 years old on [date] and [date].

I am not aware that they will continue to study full-time after this date / I anticipate that they will continue to study full-time until [date] and [date].

Please contact me within 7 working days to let me know when my payments in relation to each child will stop.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

4. Letter asking for calculation details

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing to request a breakdown of your calculation which results in me owing [amount] in child maintenance in relation to [child A and date of birth] and [child B and date of birth].

Please outline what you consider to be my net income, any exemptions or discounts I have been awarded, the number of days you consider me to have joint care of my children and any other children living with me included in the calculation.

Please provide the above information within 7 working days so that I can review your calculations to see why you consider that I owe [amount] in child maintenance.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

5. Letter indicating extenuating circumstances

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing to tell you about a change in my circumstances. I now have extenuating circumstances which will affect my child maintenance payments.

My new circumstances are [enter brief details of extenuating circumstances - e.g. illness]. This means that I have less / no income available to pay child maintenance and my current net income is [amount].

I anticipate that my extenuating circumstances will last [amount of time / for the foreseeable future]. I will be able to continue payment of child maintenance on [date] / I am unsure when I will be able to continue paying child maintenance.

Please contact me within 7 working to discuss my new circumstances and how they will affect my child maintenance payments.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

6. Letter about a change of circumstances

23 Sep 2018

Dear Sirs,

RE: Case reference number [enter case number on top of letters]

I am writing to tell you about a change in my circumstances which will affect the amount of child maintenance I pay.

My net income is now [amount] as I have changed job / my pay has changed. I am now entitled to the following exemptions / discounts:

  • I am a student at [name of college / university].
  • I am a serving prisoner at [name of prison].
  • I am aged 16 / 17 and receive income support / job seekers allowance.
  • I have shared care of the above named children for [number] days / month.
  • I have [number] other children living with me - [name and date of birth of other children].

Please contact me within 7 working days if you dispute / require any further information on my new circumstances.

Yours faithfully,

[your signature]

[your name]

If there you'd like to know more about child support take a look at: Child Support Payments: A Downloadable Detailed Guide.

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Tam - Your Question:
My kids father is trying to decrease his child maintenance. He has had two children with another woman( his reason for doing so) this is the fathers only form of support. child support in GA is now adding my income (which is not a problem) but I do not make what the office claims I do. my hours at my job vary so I never see a decent check. I was told by the support office that its what I have the "potential" to make. laws here in Ga and where I am from are very different. please give me advice on what to do.

Our Response:
As we are a UK-based site, we can only unfortunately give information on UK-based child maintenance laws.
SeparatedDads - 6-Aug-18 @ 10:17 AM
My kids father is trying to decrease his child maintenance. He has had two children with another woman( his reason for doing so) this is the fathers only form of support. child support in GA is now adding my income (which is not a problem) but I do not make what the office claims I do. my hours at my job vary so I never see a decent check. I was told by the support office that its what I have the "potential" to make. laws here in Ga and where I am from are very different. please give me advice on what to do.
Tam - 5-Aug-18 @ 7:30 AM
caringparent - Your Question:
Hello, I am an non resident dad,( I live and work 140 miles from my children although return every 3 weekends and have care of the children during all Christmas school holidays,half term weeks and share half care in Summer holidays ) my daughters aged 10 and 12 live with their Mum. Unfortunately, although their mum works and receives child maintenance from me and child benefit and child working tax credit she has been in constant difficulty financially, ie moved rented house 5 times in six years (Due to houses being kept filthy, She does not clean she moves),I have paid water rates, council tax etc. I have always tried to support her giving her child maintenance payments and future child maintenance money in advance and they have been used to pay off 2 £5,000 loans she defaulted on,paid two 3 year car leases to enable her to take the children to school,( I have refused to take up another car lease ( her response was " Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of my friends!" She is 32 years old! I have paid bailiffs, missed rent to landlords,deposits for houses etc. paid for all school uniform, paid money direct to school meal cards to make sure the children had money for school meals, bought all clothing, shoes and the girls ring me regularly to transfer money usually £30 a time to their mother for entertainment costs while in their mothers care, We have now reached the point where I have made a total of upfront child care payments ( under family arrangements) to cover in advance until the girls reach their 18th birthdays respectively. Now their mum has contacted CMS for payments although we have agreed via email that she has already received all maintenance payments in advance to help cover her and the children's current living costs. Where do I stand with her going back on this agreement.

Our Response:
I am surprised that you have agreed to give a person who has no concept of money a lump sum amount to last the period of when your children are 18. Unfortunately, I do not think this is going to have an effect on you having to pay monthly or weekly child maintenance payments if your ex has gone to CMS, as it's about the ongoing needs of your children.
SeparatedDads - 29-Jun-18 @ 12:21 PM
Shawny - Your Question:
My child from a previous relationship who I pay for was in education/college and as recently finished and looking for work. Do I still pay for her.

Our Response:
As a rule, when your child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). You can see more via the link here which will tell you all you need to know as when child benefit stops, so do child maintenance payments.
SeparatedDads - 26-Jun-18 @ 2:49 PM
Hello, I am an non resident dad,( I live and work 140 miles from my children although return every 3 weekends and have care of the children during all Christmas school holidays,half term weeks and share half care in Summer holidays ) my daughters aged 10 and 12 live with their Mum. Unfortunately, although their mum works and receives child maintenance from me and child benefit and child working tax creditshe has been in constant difficulty financially, ie moved rented house 5 times in six years (Due to houses being kept filthy, She does not clean she moves),I have paid water rates, council tax etc. I have always tried to support her giving her child maintenance payments and future child maintenance money in advanceand they have been used to pay off2 £5,000 loans she defaulted on,paid two 3 yearcar leases to enable her to take the children to school,( I have refused to take up another car lease ( her response was" Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of my friends!" She is 32 years old! I havepaid bailiffs, missed rent to landlords,deposits for houses etc. paid for all school uniform, paid money direct to school meal cards to make sure the children had money for school meals, bought all clothing, shoes and the girls ring me regularly to transfer money usually £30 a timeto their mother for entertainment costs while in their mothers care,We have now reached the point where I have made a total of upfrontchild care payments ( under family arrangements) to cover in advance until the girls reach their 18th birthdays respectively. Now their mum has contacted CMS for payments although we have agreed via emailthat she has already received all maintenance payments in advance to help cover her and the children'scurrent living costs. Where do I stand with her going back on this agreement.
caring parent - 26-Jun-18 @ 10:03 AM
My child from a previous relationship who i pay for was in education/college and as recently finished and looking for work. Do i still pay for her..
Shawny - 25-Jun-18 @ 10:52 PM
Ddon - Your Question:
I'm married with 2 kids and I've been served recently by cms for a previous relationship and I'm told I have to pay £3880 annually The said child will be 13 this year and I've never been given access to him at all.i used to pay for his upkeep but then his mom took him overseas for 7 years and he was living here intermittently I'll only here from him when he wants gifts for xmas and birthdays and then the next I'll hear is that he has got back overseasFor a married with 4 other kids (2-babies) I think the said amount is too much cause I have a mortgage of £935 to pay and my monthly travel pass to work alone is £366.80What should I do and how can I resolve this?any help will be appreciated as I intended to write to the child maintenance service Thanks for your time

Our Response:
Firstly, all biological parents are deemed responsible by law for financially supporting their children, regardless of whether they see their children or not. Child maintenance and child access have no bearing on each other and are considered completely separate issues. If you wish to have access to your child, please see link here. Child maintenance payments are based on a formulaic calculation on the non-resident parent's earnings, 'not' expenditure. Therefore, on the basic rate for one child, the non-resident parent will pay 12% of their gross weekly income. You can see more regarding what CMS takes into consideration via the link here . This should tell you all you need to know about how child maintenance is worked out.
SeparatedDads - 12-Jun-18 @ 10:32 AM
I'm married with 2 kids and I've been served recently by cms for a previous relationship and I'm told I have to pay £3880 annually The said child will be 13 this year and I've never been given access to him at all.i used to pay for his upkeep but then his mom took him overseas for 7 years and he was living here intermittently I'll only here from him when he wants gifts for xmas and birthdays and then the next I'll hear is that he has got back overseas For a married with 4 other kids (2-babies) I think the said amount is too much cause I have a mortgage of £935 to pay and my monthly travel pass to work alone is £366.80 What should I do and how can I resolve this?any help will be appreciated as I intended to write to the child maintenance service Thanks for your time
Ddon - 11-Jun-18 @ 4:52 PM
Chaz - Your Question:
Hi I have a complicated question and I would like some advice.Situation - my ex and I separated in Jan this year and we have 2 girls (4&2), to start with everything went fine. We draw up a parenting plan that covered all aspects of our girls needs. We set a routine that works on a 2 week rotation, during the rotation I have the girls for 8 days and 6 nights. My ex has the girls for 6 days and 8 nights, I believe this arrangement is equal and fair. During the times I have the girls I have complete parental responsibility, taking them to appointments, nursery and all the other things that they need. Plus I pay all childcare costs £500+ monthly. Recently things have started to turn sour and I received a text today from my ex saying I will receive a letter from the CMS soon requesting child maintenance. This is a subject we've talked about on serval occasions, unsuccessfully! It prompted me to do some research and in my interpretation we provide 50/50% parental day to day care. This negates either of us paying maintenance according to the CMS leaflet. BUT!!! the CMS calculator's formula is based on the number of nights and not actual time spent with either parent. This is why my ex is taking this route, as the routine is in her favour. she is not only expecting me to continue with the routine and pay childcare costs, but now wants me to pay child maintenance too. I am dreading the letter, as I don't know what to expect and I've heard so many horror stories. So, my questions are:1. Will the CMS take into consideration actual time spent providing day to day care or just be hard and fast and stick to thier formula?2. What evidence would they require to support my interpretation?3. Can anyone provide the CMS's definition of day to day care?Any other advice or guidance will be greatly received :-)

Our Response:
Much depends upon whether your ex is earning too. If you are both working and earning a similar amount, then there may be a case for you to take the matter to court to apply for an official shared-care status, in which case child maintenance would be waived. If your ex is a stay-at-home mum or only working part-time then you would eligible to pay. With regards to the child maintenance assessment, it only applies to overnight stays. However, if you pay child maintenance, you would not have to also pay childcare (unless the childcare fell on your days). CMS sticks to the formula. Day-to-day care generally falls to the primary carer who is seen as the parent who receives child benefit. CMS does prefer parents to organise child maintenance between themselves and it gives parents the tools to do so. Mediation may also be an option to consider suggesting to your ex.
SeparatedDads - 11-Jun-18 @ 3:23 PM
Hi I have a complicated question and I would like some advice. Situation - my ex and I separated in Jan this year and we have 2 girls (4&2), to start with everything went fine. We draw up a parenting plan that covered all aspects of our girls needs. We set a routine that works on a 2 week rotation, during the rotation I have the girls for 8 days and 6 nights. My ex has the girls for 6 days and 8 nights, I believe this arrangement is equal and fair. During the times I have the girls I have complete parental responsibility, taking them to appointments, nursery and all the other things that they need. Plus I pay all childcare costs £500+ monthly. Recently things have started to turn sour and I received a text today from my ex saying I will receive a letter from the CMS soon requesting child maintenance. This is a subject we've talked about on serval occasions, unsuccessfully! It prompted me to do some research and in my interpretation we provide 50/50% parental day to day care. This negates either of us paying maintenance according to the CMS leaflet. BUT!!! the CMS calculator's formula is based on the number of nights and not actual time spent with either parent. This is why my ex is taking this route, as the routine is in her favour. she is not only expecting me to continue with the routine and pay childcare costs, but now wants me to pay child maintenance too. I am dreading the letter, as I don't know what to expect and I've heard so many horror stories. So, my questions are: 1. Will the CMS take into consideration actual time spent providing day to day care or just be hard and fast and stick to thier formula? 2. What evidence would they require to support my interpretation? 3. Can anyone provide the CMS's definition of day to day care? Any other advice or guidance will be greatly received :-)
Chaz - 11-Jun-18 @ 2:59 AM
My son is 18 he has learning disability. He can claim esa in in own right. My x is claiming Enhanced child tax credit and high pip she claims a care package for him also carer allowance. Do I still have to pay my 20% until he is twenty. I see him once every two week which I spend £ 30 / 40 on that day
Mike - 22-May-18 @ 5:51 AM
Leon- Your Question:
I have never had any contact with my daughter or her mother even though I have always paid for her - she will be 18 this month and I assume she is doing A -levels as I know she goes to a very expensive private school - Am I correct in assuming I will no longer be liable for payments after her A level course is completed? Who informs the CMS of this? does her mother have to tell them she has finished?

Our Response:
Child maintenance payments fall in line with when child benefit payment eligibility stops. The child benefit agency will inform CMS when your daughter leaves full-time further education, please see link here , which will explain further.
SeparatedDads - 1-May-18 @ 12:41 PM
I have never had any contact with my daughter or her mother even though I have always paid for her- she will be 18 this month and I assume she is doing A -levels as I know she goes to a very expensive private school - Am I correct in assuming I will no longer be liable for payments after her A level course is completed? Who informs the CMS of this? does her mother have to tell them she has finished?
Leon - 30-Apr-18 @ 11:21 AM
Belles - Your Question:
I had sex with 2 men and I suspect one is the actual father, told about the child and requested for a dna, he denies the child and declined the dna, instead decided to send me money (tho not much) but I'm just not pleased as I wouldn't want to be attached to anything fraud in future, what should I do?

Our Response:
If you think he is the biological father, then once the child is born you can name him as the father (to Child Maintenance Services). He will then be required to pay child maintenance until he himself proves he is not the father, please see link here . It is in his best interests also not to hide his head in the sand. Paying you off with a minimal amount of money will legally not serve any purpose, he will still be deemed partly financially responsible.
SeparatedDads - 9-Apr-18 @ 12:08 PM
I had sex with 2 men and I suspect one is the actual father, told about the child and requested for a dna, he denies the child and declined the dna, instead decided to send me money (tho not much) but I'm just not pleased as I wouldn't want to beattached to anything fraud in future, what should I do?
Belles - 7-Apr-18 @ 7:02 PM
Davey - Your Question:
How can I obtain proof of continuous education after 16. I have no contact with ex wife.

Our Response:
If your ex is still in receipt of child benefit, then it points to your child being in full-time education. When your child leaves full-time education or approved training child benefit will stop as will child maintenance payments automatically. Please see link here.
SeparatedDads - 5-Apr-18 @ 3:31 PM
How can I obtain proof of continuous education after 16. I have no contact with ex wife.
Davey - 4-Apr-18 @ 8:45 PM
Gemma - Your Question:
My partner has been sent a liability order stating he owes over 3000 in child support over a two year period. My partner has hardly worked in these two years due to circumstances. He’s worked around 5 months out of the 24. There’s no dispute he owes some money but the amount they are asking for is very steep. I am looking into mandatory reconsideration but I was wondering what I would need to provide and looking for a template to follow. Also if you have any knowledge on how much if he should be paying for all the months he was unemployed. Many thanks, Gemma.

Our Response:
When any change in circumstances occurs, your partner must inform CMS, so that CMS can keep a clear record, please see link here . If your partner kept CMS/CSA abreast of changes, then these changes should be on your partner's back record. However, we are not CMS, so we have no knowledge of its administration procedures and what evidence CMS requires when carrying out an assessment or investigation. You would have to speak directly with CMS to find out this information.
SeparatedDads - 15-Mar-18 @ 10:11 AM
My partner has been sent a liability order stating he owes over 3000 in child support over a two year period. My partner has hardly worked in these two years due to circumstances. He’s worked around 5 months out of the 24. There’s no dispute he owes some money but the amount they are asking for is very steep. I am looking into mandatory reconsideration but I was wondering what I would need to provide and looking for a template to follow. Also if you have any knowledge on how much if he should be paying for all the months he was unemployed. Many thanks, Gemma.
Gemma - 14-Mar-18 @ 12:48 PM
?? - Your Question:
My other have to 2 kids to his he Is on the bc but is ex won’t let him see them and since ask him for full custody of the 2 kids so he has no right over them at all so will he still have to pay Cas for the two of them since she the one that want him to give up his right over them. This is in Scotland. Can someone let me know pls

Our Response:
Regardless of whether your partner sees his children or not, by law he is still responsible for paying child maintenance to help towards the day-to-day care of his children. Child access is a different issues and if his ex won't let him see his kids, then he would have to try to resolve this either; with his ex, through mediation, or if his ex refuses to attend mediation, he would have to apply to court.
SeparatedDads - 6-Mar-18 @ 2:14 PM
??? - Your Question:
Dose the father have to be on the child bc to pay child maintenance

Our Response:
No. If you name the biological father to CMS, even though he is not registered on the birth certificate by law he is still deemed responsible for paying child maintenance for his child.
SeparatedDads - 6-Mar-18 @ 1:46 PM
My other have to 2 kids to his he Is on the bc but is ex won’t let him see them and since ask him for full custody of the 2 kids so he has no right over them at all so will he still have to pay Cas for the two of them since she the one that want him to give up his right over them. This is in Scotland. Can someone let me know pls
?? - 6-Mar-18 @ 8:02 AM
Dose the father haveto be on the child bc to paychild maintenance
??? - 6-Mar-18 @ 7:56 AM
Bill - Your Question:
I had a visit from bailiffs today looking for nearly £4,000 they claim I owe the CSA. The CSA have never contacted me and I do not have a reference number of any sort or any idea of why they are chasing me this way. The bailiff was helpful enough to leave their address for me but that was it - he intends to come back to remove what little goods I have if I do not pay in 48 hours. I have written to them just now and emailed on their website to try to find out what this is about. I have had no contact at all with them other than this. How do they feel they can simply send a bailiff out of the blue and ask for £4,000 without even talking to me, asking what I earn, if I am the father of whatever child they are claiming for - or if there is any agreement already in place. I am astounded they can do this and I believe it is illegal - can anyone recommend a good solicitor for this in Sussex please?

Our Response:
Both parents are legally responsible for financially supporting any children. If you had children, or a child and you are not living with the child, then you might have been aware of this, as it affects every non-resident parent in the UK. If you were unaware you have fathered a child and have never received any correspondence, you may be able to have the order set aside, please see link here. You really need to speak directly to CMS/CSA, please see link here . Unfortunately, we cannot recommend a solicitor as we cannot be seen to be biased.
SeparatedDads - 26-Jan-18 @ 9:31 AM
I had a visit from bailiffs today looking for nearly £4,000 they claim I owe the CSA. The CSA have never contacted me and I do not have a reference number of any sort or any idea of why they are chasing me this way. The bailiff was helpful enough to leave their address for me but that was it - he intends to come back to remove what little goods I have if I do not pay in 48 hours. I have written to them just now and emailed on their website to try to find out what this is about. I have had no contact at all with them other than this. How do they feel they can simply send a bailiff out of the blue and ask for £4,000 without even talking to me, asking what I earn, if I am the father of whatever child they are claiming for - or if there is any agreement already in place. I am astounded they can do this and I believe it is illegal - can anyone recommend a good solicitor for this in Sussex please?
Bill - 25-Jan-18 @ 4:53 PM
I have gotten a letter in the mail that it was it was acceptable at this point to reevaluate my child support order.I feel like the first order was based off of false claims of income.So I want to have it reevaluated but am not sure how to proceed.Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Meagan - 16-Jan-18 @ 1:51 PM
LindaB - Your Question:
Hi,My husband is paying Child Maintenance for a child that was the product of a one night stand many years ago of whom he has no contact with. We are planning on moving abroad to a non EU country. Does he need to let Child Maintenance know and will he have to continue to pay through the Child Maintenance service if we live in a non UK country, he will not work for any UK based companies or her majesty's services or be on secondment.He will also be unemployed with no income ahead of the move so will Child Maintenance still expect him to pay if he has nil income? We have no contact details for the mother so cannot arrange 'family based' arrangement.Thanks in advance.

Our Response:
Yes, your husband would have to let CMS know otherwise he could be subject to arrears, please see link here . Regardless of where your husband lives, he is still deemed responsible for paying child maintenance for a child that is biologically his. The child's mother can apply to the The Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order (REMO) Unit, which helps to register and enforce child maintenance orders internationally (where non-resident parents leave the country without maintaining responsibility for their child). There are REMO and non-REMO countries where child maintenance can and cannot be enforced.
SeparatedDads - 9-Jan-18 @ 9:32 AM
Hi, My husband is paying Child Maintenance for a child that was the product of a one night stand many years ago of whom he has no contact with. We are planning on moving abroad to a non EU country. Does he need to let Child Maintenance know and will he have to continue to pay through the Child Maintenance service if we live in a non UK country, he will not work for any UK based companies or her majesty's services or be on secondment. He will also be unemployed with no income ahead of the move so will Child Maintenance still expect him to pay if he has nil income? We have no contact details for the mother so cannot arrange 'family based' arrangement. Thanks in advance.
LindaB - 8-Jan-18 @ 3:12 PM
Kitkat - Your Question:
My ex just got out of prison and kidnap my son and filed child support on me due to me being homeless. I havent seen my kids i. 3 months I do work but being homeless in shelter isnt child abuse I knkw. How do I go about fighting?

Our Response:
I am sorry to hear this. You would need to seek legal advice. Your local Citizens Advice Bureau may be able to help, as can Coram Children's Legal Centre, please see link here . If you cannot afford legal representation about taking the matter to court, you can represent yourself, please see link here . However, before you take any advice, please see the link What Happens If My Ex Keeps the Children Without My Consent? here , which will tell you more. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads - 30-Nov-17 @ 11:08 AM
My ex just got out of prison and kidnap my son and filed child support on me due to me being homeless.. I havent seen my kids i. 3 months i do work but being homeless in shelter isnt child abuse i knkw.. How do i go about fighting?
Kitkat - 29-Nov-17 @ 5:11 AM
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