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Shared Custody of Your Children

By: Chris Nickson - Updated: 20 May 2018 | comments*Discuss
 
Contact Residency Visitation Custody

There are numerous questions surrounding shared custody. What is it? How does it work? And how is it different to contact (as visitation is called these days)?

In many instances, residence (custody) is granted to the mother, and you, as the father have your contact rights set out. With shared custody, your children split their time between their mother and you. The amount varies – it can be as much as 70% with the mother, for instance – but it means you have much greater contact with them. It presumes, of course, that both the mother and father are fit parents.

UK Lagging Behind

It’s an idea that has widespread popularity in Europe, and in the U.S. it’s becoming more common, although the UK has lagged behind in adopting it.

Shared custody demands a high level of commitment from both parents. If you’re going to have your children for three days a week, then during that time you have you need to make sure your schedule revolves around them.

The Advantages of Shared Custody

Shared custody, shared residency or shared parenting as it's also known, can offer several distinct advantages, both for parents and children. For separated fathers, it means they can be far more involved with their children, seeing them on a regular, extended basis every week. Moreover, it also means that neither parent is carrying the entire burden of parenting while the other is considered absent.

With standard Contact Orders, one parent has the majority of responsibility for the day-to-day routine, while the other – usually the separated father – sees the children at the weekend or selected weekdays.

Shared custody means your Children Have Two Homes, two stable bases where they can feel secure. Above all, it means they continue to have a real family life with both parents, which makes them feel more loved.

Research has determined that when children have experience of shared custody they have better relationships with both parents and are more satisfied with their lives. It’s also shown that even when there’s strong animosity between the parents, shared custody works well for the children.

The Disadvantages of Shared Custody

For shared custody to work, you have to live fairly close to you ex, for your children to continue to attend the same schools, see their friends, and so on. This can create social problems for the parents, since proximity means an increased chance of contact with your Ex Partner.

Also, if your job or circumstances change and you have to move elsewhere, then the change from shared custody to contact can create emotional problems for your children (the same can apply if your ex has to move for any reason). In other words, by its nature there has to be a certain amount of flexibility in the plan.

Shared Custody in the UK

At present, shared custody/residency is not the norm in Britain, although several organisations are trying to increase its visibility and prominence. The Shared Parenting Information Net and the Equal Parenting Council are both working to make it a very acceptable option here.

Just because it's not necessarily the norm, does not mean you can’t bring up the idea in Mediation or through your solicitor as a viable means of custody. In most instances, children are also given a say in where they spend their time, and where they have excellent relationships with both parents, it means they’re not in a position where they have to “choose” between Mum and Dad.

What Next?

Why not have a read through our article on Making Joint Decisions About Your Child's Future for some advice and guidance on how you and your ex partner can make parenting decisions together.

Check out the Separated Dads Forum... It's a great resource where you can ask for advice on topics including Child Access, Maintenance, CAFCASS, Fathers Rights, Court, Behaviour or simply to have a chat with other dads.

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Hi, Me and my wife have been separated now for three months in this time she has allowed me to see my daugther and have my daughter over night. However after a dispute over finances she then sent me a email stating that she will no longer allow my daughter to stay with me over night and I can only see her once every two weeks. She stated in her email that she has spoke to professionals and they have informed her that allowing my daughter to stay with me over night can cause MANY issues for my daughter. I was wondering if what she is stating is true would “care professional” tell my wife such things as stated above? I have already contacted my solicitor to start court proceedings. Regards Amit
Chopper - 20-May-18 @ 4:42 PM
My x is difficult at letting me see my daughter between us personally it is never going to happen she that kind of women I stayed away years ago the judge told me to stay away from personal contact he said with a women like my x and a guy like me it will lead me to jail time plus she puts orders on me all the time .i tried years ago to see my daughter thought she might have changed but no .she loves to make things difficult but this time around I didn’t lose my head I held it together .experenced with dealing with women like her now (red flag ).so the dream of (shared custody )is gone for me .but in reality my daughter should be living with me (full time )I am the better parent .she coming of age now that’s the( good news )and with social media we are trying to (reach out to her and let her know we are here for her if she ever needs us ).baby steps her mother be like a chicken hawk watching her social media apps .
Chris - 19-May-18 @ 4:17 PM
Dom - Your Question:
My ex (unmarried) has been extremely difficult with me seeing my daughter (3 years old) and had stopped from seeing her for nearly 3 weeks after a disagreement during the Easter holidays.I have been trying very hard to be amicable although she is being impossible. We went to mediation and now I am seeing my daughter every other weekend and every Tuesday but she gets extremely upset when she goes back to her Mums and doesn't want to leave me. In mediation it was agreed she would let me know of any medical appointments and school but has not after a recent doctors appointment and recent referral. I have asked and she ignores me via whatsapp.I have my own home, with a bedroom for my daughter and live 15 miles away and want joint custody because I feel this would be in the best interest of my daughter to see me and her mum equally. My ex completely objected to a rota to have our daughter equal amount of time when we first broke up but she is not seeing me enough and I'm extremely worried. Has anyone got any advice as to how I can attempt to have joint custody? I appreciate if I take my ex to court then I won't see my daughter until the hearing which may be months so is a gamble.

Our Response:
If you are currently seeing your daughter every other weekend and every Tuesday, it is not enough to warrant the courts to issue shared-care. In order to be granted a shared-care arrangement, you would pretty much have to have had one in order for the courts to opt to continue the arrangement. Your best option is to continue with the mediation agreement and build it up so that the relationship with your child is consistent and strong, then further down the line you may have a better chance with the court at being granted more access should the arrangement break down.The fact you live 15 miles away from your child and are only in your child's life sporadically, then a court would not view a shared-care arrangement as being in your child's best interests.
SeparatedDads - 14-May-18 @ 3:18 PM
K3l02 - Your Question:
Nearly four months me and my ex have been spilt up we have 3 boys together the problem is he think he can come and go whenever he pleasers and when he has them staying over once every month for one night need some advise On how to go on about there he has them once every two weeks Friday night to a Sunday

Our Response:
If you cannot agree between you, then mediation is the next port of call. Please see link here. It can help you put an arrangement into place and set some boundaries that you both agree on.
SeparatedDads - 11-May-18 @ 3:05 PM
My ex (unmarried) has been extremely difficult with me seeing my daughter (3 years old) and had stopped from seeing her for nearly 3 weeks after a disagreement during the Easter holidays. I have been trying very hard to be amicable although she is being impossible. We went to mediation and now I am seeing my daughter every other weekend and every Tuesday but she gets extremely upset when she goes back to her Mums and doesn't want to leave me. In mediation it was agreed she would let me know of any medical appointments and school but has not after a recent doctors appointment and recent referral. I have asked and she ignores me via whatsapp. I have my own home, with a bedroom for my daughter and live 15 miles away and want joint custody because I feel this would be in the best interest of my daughter to see me and her mum equally. My ex completely objected to a rota to have our daughter equal amount of time when we first broke up but she is not seeing me enough and I'm extremely worried. Has anyone got any advice as to how I can attempt to have joint custody? I appreciate if I take my ex to court then I won't see my daughter until the hearing which may be months so is a gamble.
Dom - 11-May-18 @ 12:58 AM
Nearly four months me and my ex have been spilt up we have 3 boys together theproblem is he think he can come and go whenever he pleasers and when he has them staying over once every month for one night need some advise On how to go on about there he has them once every two weeks Friday night to a Sunday
K3l02 - 7-May-18 @ 9:40 PM
@auntie - only if the dad stops the kids seeing you should you pursue it. If you have a working arrangement where both of you take care of the kids, then it is better to stick to it and work through agreement. The only legal way you can challenge it is through court. You can guarantee that if you try to challenge it through court, the kids' dad will go on the offensive and probably deny access. The court will then not necessarily rule in your favour. Unless the dads is a bad parent, it will always choose the natural parent. I'd tread carefully and keep on good terms. It's what most parents do when they decide access arrangements. When the kids are 18, they can make up their own minds. Just my opinion for what it's worth. L.
LizV - 3-May-18 @ 10:37 AM
Hi all. I am the aunt of two children, my sister, their mother died a year ago. I cared for the children for a large part of her illness, she was a single mother, dad had them every other weekend. He has parental responsibility and the children legally live only with him since her death, he is their only legal parent/guardian. I have had them with me for about 50% of the time including overnights since their mothers death, I have been keeping a record. We have a schedule of when I have them, which for the most part is kept to. They have bedrooms both at their dads and my home. I also do most of the school/health appointments, school runs, clubs etc. Currently I have absolutely zero legal/parental rights, which I would like to change. This is a joint custody arrangement in all but name, I am their parent, in all but name, and I want it to be made legal. How do I go about doing this: 1, if dad agrees, and as I doubt he will; 2, without his agreement.
auntie - 2-May-18 @ 12:14 PM
Hi , I'm in the middle of a separation. I am applying for social housing and wish to include my daughter in the process of the bedroom requirements. Unfortunately as my wife (ex) claims the child tax credit they won't consider the extra bedroom need and my priority is lessened. Do I need to apply for joint custody to obtain the 50% child benefit as my ex is stating that if she allows me to claim it she will lose her tax credits allowance . Is this true? Thanks
Mike - 27-Apr-18 @ 11:55 AM
Happyday - Your Question:
Hi,If you have a joint care agreement, does that mean you can both apply as main carers for tax credits?

Our Response:
Only one person can apply for tax credits and child benefit. Some shared-care families choose to split the benefits, or one parent claims child benefit whereas the other claims tax credits.
SeparatedDads - 19-Apr-18 @ 3:40 PM
Hi, If you have a joint care agreement, does that mean you can both apply as main carers for tax credits?
Happyday - 19-Apr-18 @ 6:50 AM
Tracey - Your Question:
My partner and I live together. We have a 2 year old daughter. We both work full time. He has decided he no longer wants to be with me after being unfaithful with someone else. We are now selling the family home and buying a home each. I work in Andover and we currently reside in Eastleigh. He is insisting on 50/50 care which devastates me however I don't feel I can argue this as he has equal parental rights. I have therefore felt that it's best to buy locally even though I work 50 mins away (in traffic) so that things can work however he wants to have a rota of 2 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 2 days off. This would mean I wouldn't see my daughter for 5 days in a row and the thought of it makes me feel physically ill. I can't bear the thought of not seeing her half of the time and 5 days is far too long for her to be away from me (I feel). She's so young. I have expressed how I feel but he turns really nasty when I raise how I don't like the rota he has suggested. We have tried mediation but it hasn't really addressed what I want to discuss and was more financial than anything else. We are not married. Mediation is £300 a session and I just don't have the money. I'm not sure what to do. Please can someone help?

Our Response:
It's understandable you don't want a five days rota if you have a two-year-old child. The thing is is not to agree with a rota that you are both not ready to agree with. However, court would be considered the last resort if either you or your partner cannot come to an agreement and wish to push the issue further. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
SeparatedDads - 17-Apr-18 @ 3:43 PM
My partner and I live together. We have a 2 year old daughter. We both work full time. He has decided he no longer wants to be with me after being unfaithful with someone else. We are now selling the family home and buying a home each. I work in Andover and we currently reside in Eastleigh. He is insisting on 50/50 care which devastates me however I don't feel I can argue this as he has equal parental rights. I have therefore felt that it's best to buy locally even though I work 50 mins away (in traffic) so that things can work however he wants to have a rota of 2 days on 5 days off, 5 days on 2 days off. This would mean I wouldn't see my daughter for 5 days in a row and the thought of it makes me feel physically ill. I can't bear the thought of not seeing her half of the time and 5 days is far too long for her to be away from me (I feel). She's so young. I have expressed how I feel but he turns really nasty when I raise how I don't like the rota he has suggested. We have tried mediation but it hasn't really addressed what I want to discuss and was more financial than anything else. We are not married. Mediation is £300 a session and I just don't have the money. I'm not sure what to do. Please can someone help?
Tracey - 17-Apr-18 @ 11:06 AM
I’m a dad that’s just divorced from ex she walked out off the marital home with my daughter and ever since has made everything hard work for me from not agreeing 50/50 access even when it’s what my daughter wants and needs tell me my daughter doesn’t want to see me. The ex asking her daughter to check my house and bedroom for money about and if I’ve got a girlfriend etc. Also I have here over half off the year paying everything the ex does a roof over my daughters head food clothes all her extra activities etc all on my wage only and still paying child support to ex but the ex gets everything else all benefit for my daughter her own wages my payments to her every week. The ex has now moved to a different town but my daughter still goes to the same school I’ve been call up on to pick my daughter up from school numerous off time due to no picking her up when with her mum or I’ve had to collect my daughter because her mum was going to be late to. I’m stuck and wondering what I can do and my rights and do I have to pay her the money even though I have my daughter nearest dam it 50/50
Gregory - 31-Mar-18 @ 10:22 PM
My son has custody of there 4 girls. The mum left there council home, and lived in Liverpool with new boyfriend. She had mental health issues. The court ordered my son the house, for the girls. The mum didn't even go to caught. Kids been with dad 10mths at there home. Her name taken off tenancy card. Earlier they went to court, claiming she's mentaly stable, had medical evidence off psychiatrist. So now she's aiming 50-50, custody. My concerns are, can they kick my son out of the house. Even though he's had girls there as single parent. And he's doing a great job please give me your thoughts on this, thankd
Shakey - 29-Mar-18 @ 6:14 PM
May - Your Question:
My husband and I have recently separated. He sees our 2 children regularly during the week and then every weekend for a sleepover. He wants to have the children for 2 weeks during the summer holidays. 1 week July and other Aug. The children have told him and me that they do not want to go for this long. Do they have to?

Our Response:
You do not have to send them if they do not wish to go. However, your ex would have the option to apply to court if neither of you can agree via mediation. Your ex would have the option to apply for a Specific Issue Order, please see link here.
SeparatedDads - 29-Mar-18 @ 2:59 PM
JD - Your Question:
I’m mother asking advice on fathers rights. My trouble is I have 2 kids that live with me and see their father every other weekend. However, he often changes this and sees them 2 nights a month. He kept a house near me but moved over 80 mins away and lives there when doesn’t see kids. He makes no effort to see kids or ask about them in between. It’s like they don’t exist. He has 10 holidays a year and at push will have kids for 6 days a year. Is there a law where I can make him see the children. I suspect not but My eldest is in pieces over his lack of involvement. He doesn’t even visit when they were both rushed hospital (separate incidences) nor attend any parent evenings etc.

Our Response:
I am sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, a court will not force a parent to have contact with their children where a parent is unwilling. It would not be viewed by court as being in the children's best interests.
SeparatedDads - 29-Mar-18 @ 10:00 AM
I’m mother asking advice on fathers rights. My trouble is I have 2 kids that live with me and see their father every other weekend. However, he often changes this and sees them 2 nights a month. He kept a house near me but moved over 80 mins away and lives there when doesn’t see kids. He makes no effort to see kids or ask about them in between. It’s like they don’t exist. He has 10 holidays a year and at push will have kids for 6 days a year. Is there a law where I can make him see the children. I suspect not but My eldest is in pieces over his lack of involvement. He doesn’t even visit when they were both rushed hospital (separate incidences) nor attend any parent evenings etc.
JD - 28-Mar-18 @ 3:22 PM
Hi everyone, I’m in a real predicament and need some advice. I gained an access order for my daughter 10 years ago that gives me roughly 8 days a month. However it’s been fluid for that time and would say I have her closer to 12 days a month depending on school holidays etc. Over the last few years my ex partner has become more and more ‘neglectful’ From not bothering to take her to any of her chosen activities because she’s ‘too busy’, not being able to cope with being a mum meaning she stays at my daughters nans housein a double bed shared by 3 of them or my daughter sleeps on a sleeping bag on the floor (she is 11 by the way) and when they do stay at their flat she feeds her complete rubbish the flat is full of damp, condensation and freezing cold coz she can’t afgird the heating bills, to now sending her to a terrible school when I have one of the best schools in the country on my doorstep and it’s just out of spite towards me. So over the last few months my daughter has approached me saying she wants to do a week at mine and a week at her mums, but her mum refused to even discuss it, my daughter said shewanted to attend the school close to me her mum again refused to discuss it. My daughter asked me to take the matter to court yet 2 days after returning back to her mums has now decided she dosnt want to see me anymore leading to her mum breaking the court order and picking her up from school early without my knowledge. I havnt seen or spoke to her since (2 weeks ago) so I am now lookjng at going back to court to seek a change to the order granting me shared custody and placing her in my local school. I’m doing it with a heavy heart as my daughter already has been and will continue to be in he middle. However her mother is both unable and unwilling to give her the quality of life she both deserves and is able to get being with me. She has refused mediation and any form of negotiations. My questions are what is the likelihood of the judge changing the order and me getting what I seek? Is it worth the heartache it will undoubtedly cause my daughter if the chances of change or very small? And finally has the courts stnace changed in recent years as I found it so ‘mother’’ Orientated 10 years ago even though my daughters life would have beenfar better with me. Thanks in advance
Just me - 27-Mar-18 @ 10:31 PM
My husband and I have recently separated. He sees our 2 children regularly during the week and then every weekend for a sleepover. He wants to have the children for 2 weeks during the summer holidays. 1 week July and other Aug. The children have told him and me that they do not want to go for this long. Do they have to?
May - 27-Mar-18 @ 9:10 PM
Sarah J - Your Question:
Me and my partner have seperated. He is a binge drinker and hit my son from a previous relationship. We have a son together under the age of 1. I want supervised contact as I don’t trust my son with him. He has previous record for assault. I’m the main one who cares for our son, he spent limited time with him since he was bornWhat are my rights

Our Response:
You would either have to agree between yourselves, through mediation or as a last resort either parent can apply to court. There are no particular 'rights'. If you cannot agree between you then a court will decide what it thinks is in the best interests of your child. If your ex has a police record for assault, then the courts will take this into consideration when making a decision.
SeparatedDads - 27-Mar-18 @ 2:32 PM
Me and my partner have seperated. He is a binge drinker and hit my son from a previous relationship. We have a son together under the age of 1. I want supervised contact as I don’t trust my son with him. He has previous record for assault. I’m the main one who cares for our son, he spent limited time with him since he was born What are my rights
Sarah J - 23-Mar-18 @ 4:12 PM
mjb - Your Question:
Hiany advice or similar experience would be greatly appreciated.I have a 6 year old son with my ex partner, I have him 6 nights out of every 14. I am on the housing register for a 1 bed property but the council refuse to upgrade that to a 2 bed property unless I can prove that I have joint custody. When I eventually get a property 1 bedroom will not be adequate for a myself and a growing boy so id like it changed as I'm waiting anyway. Does anybody have anything that can help me. The ex partner was given a brand new house within weeks of the seperation (standard) and after several months of not coping with my mortgage payments my house was sadly repossessed.cheers

Our Response:
Unfortunately, only renting privately can solve this issue.
SeparatedDads - 20-Mar-18 @ 10:48 AM
Hi any advice or similar experience would be greatly appreciated. I have a 6 year old son with my ex partner, I have him 6 nights out of every 14. I am on the housing register for a 1 bed property but the council refuse to upgrade that to a 2 bed property unless i can prove that i have joint custody. When i eventually get a property 1 bedroom will not be adequate for a myself and a growing boy so id like it changed as i'm waiting anyway. Does anybody have anything that can help me. The ex partner was given a brand new house within weeks of the seperation (standard) and after several months of not coping with my mortgage payments my house was sadly repossessed. cheers
mjb - 19-Mar-18 @ 6:59 PM
John - Your Question:
I am looking for some help on behalf of my son please, He has a child from a previous partner (she is coming up for 1), he did have agreed access for about 2 months however she then decided that he could no longer have access to his daughter and went to a solicitor.He has been trying to get a solicitor to assist with his case and has applied for legal aid.He eventually received a letter from them today saying that he was entitled to up to £4000 of legal aid but that he would be liable for approx £11000.My son is now very, very upset as this sum is ludicrous in the extreme and being on a very, very low wage well outside his ability to pay or even consider.Can you give me an idea of the realistic potential cost of attempting to get some access to his daughter.I say its for my son and that is true but myself and my wife really want to see our granddaughter as well.

Our Response:
Please see the link here which will help further. Legal Aid help is very rare and almost only awarded in cases where domestic violence has occured. Most non-resident parents self-litigate these days. Your son may wish to join our Separated Dads forum where he can gain helpful advice. You can also see the gov.uk link here , which goes through the process step-by-step.
SeparatedDads - 19-Mar-18 @ 2:51 PM
I am looking for some help on behalf of my son please, He has a child from a previous partner (she is coming up for 1), he did have agreed access for about 2 months however she then decided that he could no longer have access to his daughter and went to a solicitor. He has been trying to get a solicitor to assist with his case and has applied for legal aid. He eventually received a letter from them today saying that he was entitled to up to £4000 of legal aid but that he would be liable for approx £11000. My son is now very, very upset as this sum is ludicrous in the extreme and being on a very, very low wage well outside his ability to pay or even consider. Can you give me an idea of the realistic potential cost of attempting to get some access to his daughter. I say its for my son and that is true but myself and my wife really want to see our granddaughter as well.
John - 16-Mar-18 @ 3:59 PM
T - Your Question:
I’ve recently had a finding a fact hearing what seem by the judges judgement it has gone in my favour. My boy will be 3 years old in April, I have not seen him since he was 9 months old.Prior to that I was with him everyday.I most likely won’t begin to see him until after May.My question is will he know who I am, what a dad is? How will Cafcass help in this area?Thank you

Our Response:
I will ask your question to our Facebook members, to see whether they have had any previous experience and whether they will be able to help. You can get your answers via the link here . Best of luck.
SeparatedDads - 13-Mar-18 @ 11:24 AM
I’ve recently had a finding a fact hearing what seem by the judges judgement it has gone in my favour. My boy will be 3 years old in April, I have not seen him since he was 9 months old. Prior to that I was with him everyday. I most likely won’t begin to see him until after May. My question is will he know who I am, what a dad is? How will Cafcass help in this area? Thank you
T - 12-Mar-18 @ 2:50 PM
Suzy - Your Question:
I am in dispute with my ex, we can’t come to an agreement for him to see our 3 boys, his new partner usually picks them up from school on a thurs and return them on a sat afternoon, but this changes very frequently as they make excuses that they can’t get them on a thurs, so it’s sometimes fri, I hav always been flexible with him but when I need to be flexible he always creates, and says it’s his time, (we have nothing set in stone of times) a few weekends ago he refused to return 2 of our son on the sat evening (I had the eldest as I’d had him at football) then again on the sun then on the mon they went from school for tea and he again refused to bring them home, things have now got messy and a solicitor is involved, I have surgested that he has them one week from a thurs after school till sat 1pm the next week he has them wed for tea then fri after school then returns them sat tea time sat, I thought this was an equal time on weekends for the children to have quality time with both parents, he has refused this proposal and said he’s seeing a solicitor and said when he spoke to solicitor and told them he wants the children after school on a fri till sat night (basically he wants them every sat all day) the soloicitor said he will be granted this as I don’t work and hav more time with the children, could you please tell me if this is so and if I’m being unreasonable with my proposal.

Our Response:
There is no set rules when it comes to child arrangements. You either decide between you, decide via mediation (which is usually compulsary before your ex will be allowed to apply to court), or let the court decide on your behalf and upon what it thinks is in the best interests of your children. The standard court ruling is every other weekend and one night in the week (either overnight or not). However, the court's decision can differ and much depends upon the amount of input the non-resident parent has already. If it goes to court, you are both committed to keep to the order. Therefore, it is always best to try to agree pre-court.
SeparatedDads - 9-Mar-18 @ 1:54 PM
I am in dispute with my ex, we can’t come to an agreement for him to see our 3 boys, his new partner usually picks them up from school on a thurs and return them on a sat afternoon, but this changes very frequently as they make excuses that they can’t get them on a thurs, so it’s sometimes fri, I hav always been flexible with him but when I need to be flexible he always creates, and says it’s his time, (we have nothing set in stone of times) a few weekends ago he refused to return 2 of our son on the sat evening (I had the eldest as I’d had him at football) then again on the sun then on the mon they went from school for tea and he again refused to bring them home, things have now got messy and a solicitor is involved, I have surgested that he has them one week from a thurs after school till sat 1pm the next week he has them wed for tea then fri after school then returns them sat tea time sat, I thought this was an equal time on weekends for the children to have quality time with both parents,he has refused this proposal and said he’s seeing a solicitor and said when he spoke to solicitor and told them he wants the children after school on a fri till sat night (basically he wants them every sat all day) the soloicitorsaid he will be granted this as I don’t work and hav more time with the children, could you please tell me if this is so and if I’m being unreasonable with my proposal.
Suzy - 8-Mar-18 @ 8:54 PM
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