Dealing With Your Ex Partner and Child Moving Away

Dealing With Your Ex Partner and Child Moving Away

We all know that lives change. In a society that’s become more and more mobile, moving homes, moving cities and even countries, has become fairly commonplace. But if your kids live with your former partner and she has to move away, how do you deal with that?

The move could be work related, or perhaps because her new partner has a job somewhere else, at the other end of the country. What are the ramifications?

Within The UK

An awful lot is going to depend on the type of relationship you have with your ex. If it’s good, then when she moves you’ll be able to re-negotiate contact with your children. It might be that you don’t see them as often, but when you do it’s for a longer period.

If they’ve been spending a few nights a week with you, it can be especially bad, since you won’t have their presence regularly, which you’re used to. But your ex isn’t legally obliged to live near you.

If the relationship is bad, you might need to apply for a change in your Contact Order. This can be a gruelling procedure, not to mention expensive, since you’ll want to have a solicitor to represent you, although you may be able to come to an Agreement Through Mediation. You will still be expected to Pay Child Support as before.

Emotional Impact

Perhaps the biggest factor to deal with is the emotional impact. You should arrange plenty of phone contact with your children, daily if at all possible, so they still feel that you’re involved in their lives (and so you feel that way, too) and try to see them as often as possible. If you can arrange a trip to see them once a month, that’s good, but not economically viable for many people.

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School holidays would be the best time to see them, when you might be able to have them for a week – or even several weeks in the summer, if you can negotiate this. Of course, wonderful as it sounds, the practicalities can be real obstacles; after all, you still have to work, and there’s only so much holiday time you can take each year. You need to try to find a balance that works for you.

Going Abroad

But what happens if your ex wants to Move Abroad with your kids? She might be a foreign national, for example, and want to move home, or she might have married someone from another country and be moving. What can you do in the situation where your kids are taken even farther away from you?

Essentially, you have two choices. You can either accept the fact and come to some agreement about when the children can spend time with you or you can fight the move in the courts. If you follow the first route and come to an agreement, have it in writing and legally validated. It should include the number of visits per year and their length. Also, make sure to include who is responsible for airfares, which can avoid tumultuous arguments later. If you’re paying child support, you should try to have a provision saying you don’t have to pay for the period the kids are living with you.

Should you choose to fight the move in court, you will be battling for custody of your kids. This is only going to work if you have parental responsibility for the children (that is, if you’re named as the father on the birth certificate or have a parental responsibility agreement). If not, it’s not worth the effort, because you won’t win.

Rather than the distress this will cause you, what you’ll need to show is how it will adversely affect the kids. If the proposed move is to a non English-speaking country, for example, and your children are in school and have grown up speaking English, you’ll want to cite that – especially if they are in their early teens. You’ll need to develop a valid argument, preferably several, and be well represented in court.

If your ex does move the kids overseas, you’ll feel the loss even more than if they’re just elsewhere in the UK. Use as many different methods of contact as you can to keep in touch with them, daily if possible. It’s not an ideal substitute, but it really is better than nothing at all.

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Billy 19 Jul 2021
Hi all, I wrote a post on here a couple of years ago now and it’s heartbreaking to read some of the situations a lot of people are in. Unfortunately as a father, help from any services you are reluctant and empathy is a rarity! Nobody should have to put up with any form of abuse whatsoever - especially when children are in the mix (or sometimes used to hurt the other party). I had to take to mediation to sort issues out, fortunately things have calmed down and my ex and I get on together, however sometimes I do get patronised or borderline insulted if she doesn’t agree with my parenting! I do feel dads have to put up and bear the brunt of bad press, abuse and are frequently demonised as I myself have been for doing the best for my kids. I have been very polite and kept things cordial even through the abuse my ex has directed at me. Always always keep calm, don’t let your emotions get the better of you, chin up and be the most upstanding person you can-set a good example! You can only do your best for your kids. Never give up on them!
Rhubarb & Custard 22 Jun 2021
Here on behalf of my brother. His ex has always been a depressed and Avis I’ve partner whilst they were together. He stayed for the benefit of the children (now 8&3) until they were old enough to know who their dad was. That was 2 years ago now, since then she had been on and off with allowing contact, sometime not being home after he has driven to collect them. Over lockdown he did not see them all year and their mother blocked all communication to their dad. He ended up going to their school once they reopened to try and catch a glimpse of them their and speak to their mother. After a few times of not seeing them leave school he went to the office and was told that school was also concerned and that they’d do checks. In the meantime, my brother accessed an old social media account of his to find a tirade of abusive and worrying message from her threatening to move away and take the kids if he didn’t break up with his new girlfriend, calling him names, saying she was pregnant to another man whom she is scared of it anted my brother to collect her from his house and that she wasn’t supposed to be on the phone and had locked herself in his bathroom to send the message and saying that she has been telling the kids their dad has a new girlfriend and doesn’t care about them. ?? Her family and friends said they didn’t know where they were either and so we reported them missing. Since then they have been shown to the police safe and well and know that her parents are in full contact all along. My brother on the off chance went by the house days after getting nowhere with school or her parents and being blocked and saw her car outside, he tried to speak to the kids through the letter box which came off its hinges. Her mother called to say she’d rang the police so he left. All the while not knowing why she is withholding the children. He was arrested on suspicion of harassment (he had to visit the house because she had blocked his number and no one would tell him where the kids were) and criminal damage for breaking the letter box (even though the police said they saw in cctv he tried to fix it!) He explained her messages, abuse and everything to the police who have said they will investigate. This is where it gets nasty - she has made FALSE allegations of domestic assault and had herself and the children moved to a refuge to get a house move and relocate with the children. We believe she is has mental health issues (which she admits herself in one of the messages and is on medication) and that she is bitter that my brother has moved on! One of her vicious messages saying “you can see your kids when you get a new girlfriend” - We have had no contact or support from any services ie social care or cafcas, school had said they won’t comment and the police are saying the same. His parental rights are being infringed and it seem none is the slight bit phased. He had parental responsibility for the kids and is being treated li
Dancaw 2 Jun 2021
Just wondering if travelling 160 miles every Friday and Sunday /Monday is acceptable which is like 18000 miles a year? With current custody order in place were have my kids every weekend and i do every other Monday school drop off at current moment but with ex wife impending relocation 2 hours away my kids cant be expected to be up at 5am for 2 hour drive to school.. She doesn’t want to change arrangements as it would mean giving up weekends and social life up
Mintoe 25 Mar 2021
I've not seen my daughter in 12 years because of her poisonous mother how can I get in touch with her to let her know I'm her real dad who loves her .without killing her mother
Jay 18 Feb 2021
My ex is not an approachable person, I have a son with her. Unfortunatly i had to take her to court and got a minute off agreement made up and signed by the court , i recently found out she is moving, so i have approached her and asked were and when will she be moving , but as off normal my request has been ignored my minute off agreement state pick place time location as I requested , my question is dose she have to inform me were my son is and were he will be living
Distraught 20 Jan 2021
Hi, I seriously need some input on this as I don’t know where to turn to. Basically in a nutshell my only daughter who was 20 worked in a prison got bullied by her work colleges & then got suckered in with a 45 year old murderer. He hit is 21 year old ex girlfriend over the head 7 times & served his full 25 years. He got released in March then my daughter moved 400 miles away to live with him after quitting her job and has started UNi. She says she’s alright but I’ve only seen her once since then and despite pleading with her she’s staying put with him as her partner. I cannot bring myself to talk to her as I get angry at her and she won’t tell where they living. Could anyone give me some pointers as there is nothing but help for ex cons & with covid etc I only have my partner to talk to as I have to lie about it. Her mother has said to me that she didn’t want this either but she has accepted it as she doesn’t want to lose her....!!! What to do????
MyGirls 7 Jan 2021
Advice required please. My estranged husband is Forces and I moved to be with him when we first married and then to difference areas depending upon his draft location. My husband had a fling and I found out. I told him to go stay in the Mess. His reluctance to come home disturbed me. I then found out a couple of months later his fling was pregnant. I was beyond devastated as my husband said he wanted to be with her and the baby. I told him I would move home to be nearer my family with our children. My home was 400 miles away. He wasnt happy but agreed with it. 3 months after we moved away, his fling moved in with him. We went to mediation. I didnt want him to ever see our children again but he negotiated seeing them every 3rd weekend, half of easter, 3 weeks summer holidays and alternate festive periods. I agreed to this. After a year of travelling and booking into hotels he asked me if I would start travelling half way for when he has them longer periods. I told him No as this would affect my shifts at work (I work two jobs). I told him he could reduce his child maintenance payments to take his travelling, hotel and toll expenses into account. He did this and this reduced my maintenance by £100 per month which I was fine with. This week, he has advised that he is taking me to court to ask them for me to do half of all the travelling. I have since found out that his other child commenced nursery this week and their nursery bill is £800 per month. They have an annual joint income of £80,000 between them and 2 cars and have just purchased their own home. I earn £20,000 and rent. Any advice would be appreciated.
Cb 28 Nov 2020
I'm going through a hard time too. My daughters dad currently got living rights of my daughter and I have her every other weekend over night he's been having arguments with his ex lately and she had kicked him and my daughter out of their home. He's currently hours away and is planning on staying up there is there anything I can do. I'm at a loss here.
Bowser 12 Oct 2020
I have the exact same issue as a previous father. Geeps 25 May 20. What did you advise best in this situation?
ST 21 Sep 2020
My son now lives with me following a child protection order. The Judge has ruled that I must drive him to see his mother every weekend and take him home again the same day. It is a very long and costly journey yet despite objecting, all the effort and costs are on me as she doesn’t have a car. In the past I have given her money for driving lessons which she squandered on other things. Can a county court judge really impose this much authority over my free will and if so what rights do I have to appeal?
Shan 15 Sep 2020
So I live in Gloucester, England and my partner is from Cardiff, Wales and I wish to relocate to Cardiff with my six year old son. I do not have a good relationship with my ex and I know when I tell him I’m moving he’ll get nasty and threaten all sorts. I just want to know where I stand and if my ex can stop the move? My ex lives in Forest of Dean which is practically right next to wales anyway so I’m not moving far at all. I wish to move to Cardiff for a fresh start, my partner has a career over there which he could not Pursue here in England and myself and my son would just have a better life over there than we would here in England.
Mac 4 Sep 2020
Hello can anyone give me some advice. I’ve been given access to my kids 1 day away by a court order from the judge. My ex as stopped me seeing them for no reason and I’ve gotta wright a letter to the judge by next week also gotta give my ex a copy buts she’s moved and left no contact number. I’m due back in court soon Kind regards
Unsure 13 Aug 2020
My boy is 10 and has not seen his dad since he was 18 months old. Not my fault at all - he was taken off both of us and placed in care of my parents. With the order he was not allowed contact, just letterbox. Mum wrote letters but he wasn’t picking them up from social. So social told him to stop. I discharged the order and he is now in my care. During court proceedings the court had to send him the documents too (his address was available to court/police as he was on probation) I didn’t have his address and still don’t. He didn’t show up to the court dates. I’m now married and we are moving to Northern Ireland this December. My mum is now worried I’d have to tell him I’m moving, but we’ve had 0 contact since 2011 and I have no clue how to let him know anyway. Do I still need to try somehow??
Mash75 17 Jun 2020
Can my ex lift my children from me if I live in Scotland and she lives in Wales. ? The child lives with me the child is 12 and the other parent doesn’t drive what’s my legal stance on ex partner lifting child.
geeps 25 May 2020
I'm needing some advice really quickly. My ex is moving my kids away from our current home town, she is moving away to another town which is 1.5 hours away. I have no issue with her moving away as I think its the best thing for her to be honest. However if she goes she takes my 2 kids with her? currently for last 6 months I have been seeing my kids 1-2 nights a week. As this was what we agreed when we separated as it works around my work hours. I work weekends so me getting my kids during the week and every 2nd weekend is perfect for me. I have asked my ex what will contact look like for me if she was to move away? her reply is fri/sat/sun every second weekend. I have asked my work for every second Sat off to try and accommodate this but they have refused me. I have told my ex this but she has basically told me thats your choice. She has no care to how i see my kids?and no thoughts to the detriment of mine and my kids relationship. How can she be so selfish? Is court my only option?
Carroll693 10 Mar 2020
My ex and I separated after a drunken domestic dispute where I assaulted her. She moved back to parents about 40 minutes away and I was seeing our kids every other weekend. I since made the decision to move closer to my new partner, which puts me around 1.5hr away from where they now live. My issue is, she has now decided that it's too late for the children to be travelling on a Friday night and has instead say contact can take place from Saturday am instead. I usually pick the kids up on my way home from work and having to come back out on a Saturday is a real inconvenience. Can a contact order allow me to pick them up on a Friday night instead of a Saturday morning?
Jk 20 Feb 2020
Re my partner she went to oz for a holiday after we seperated this was 2005 she came back to scotland with s new partner,she got married to him esrly 2008 then emigrated to brisbane without my knowledge and my 3 children two of whom she refused to let me access the old est knows me but she has told them i am their uncle.but now this year 2020 she raised a court order in oz to be hesrd here in scotland for back maintenence she never told me where she was or address or contact number all these years one of the children is birth register is her maiden name not mine i really dont know who to speak to has anyone got any suggestions
Scotty 20 Jan 2020
Morning all my ex wife has being cheating on me with a younger lad from work she works in a special needs school and they work together is there anything I can do about that.they started the affair in September I found out 1st of December and moved out now she is trying to move him in with my kids and is planning a holiday next month I dont want him near my kids she barely knows him her self is there anything I can do ???
Nc 16 Jan 2020
This law sucks!!! I’m fed up and don’t know what to do. Ex was having an affair when I found out she left with my kids, he left his family. Then Ex accused me me of all the allegations under the sun! I got convicted of Dv and still not seen my kids!!! And she’s allowed to contact me we’re I’m not and she threatens me not to contact her family and friends or else she will do what she will! Big joke !!!
J 26 Nov 2019
hi I don't no if this is page I should be writing this on but I just don't no what to do my ex partner is moving near her boyfriend she not allowed to be with because he is a risk to my daughter. I'm just lost because the social worker allowed her to move even though this person lives 15min away what do I do can someone please advice me. the reason he not allowed near my ex and my daughter because he taken class A drugs with my ex while my daughter was in bed doing it on live on facebook. (if this is not allowed on here im sorry)
C.laurie 9 Nov 2019
@helpless.(DO NOT BUT ON THAT BAT MAN SUIT AND CLIMB THAT BUILDING ).because brother you can’t fly trust me .and if you think it’s going to help it won’t.
C.laurie 9 Nov 2019
@helpless.why don’t you drive ?.If you haven’t got a medical condition?.maybe get a license then you be able to drive to see your child to cut down the cost off travel.
C.laurie 9 Nov 2019
@helpless.(suck it up boy) do not( kill yourself) over some women or child .bro there are millions off us dads out there that don’t see our kids I am one off them I haven’t seen my daughter sence she was 5 .stuff your ex let her live with rich boyfriend .you got to look at like well he’s paying for your scrapes leftovers .and you get to see your child sat and Sunday so maybe get a solicitor to make visitation more concrete.
Helpless 8 Nov 2019
Hi my ex wife bankrupted, accused me of beat her when we separated out of the blue after 8 years of marriage and now she is planning to move over 100 miles away with my daughter. I don't drive. I will only get to see her on Saturday and Sunday for half day before I have to go back to London and it will cost me a fortune a year on travel and lodging. How can it be possible that father have no rights!? Why can my ex blackmail me with my child and do with her what she wants ? But I'm barely allowed to see her every second weekend? And that's only when she feels like it? Why can't I as a parent be apart of my childs life. I have to so many times had to let her go screaming and crying to her mother. Its like ripping a limp off every time for 4 years now... How can I stop my 5 year old being taken away from me. My daughter hates skype. She doesn't like to Skype with anyone. What am I sup to do.... I'm begging please! I feel like killing myself some days. While she lives off her new boyfriend a rich life and I have to sit with her debt....
Omes law 14 Aug 2019
The Law is an ass, and when it stop allowing women to take the piss the way they do, our world will be a better place. I haven’t seen my children for over 4 weeks and went round to see them, only to find they have moved. That’s great now what do I do now...
Shaun 9 Jul 2019
Can anyone help me? My ex wife is trying to move my daughter to another school, only a few miles apart, but my daughter is in her last year or so of primary school and is working towards her Sats next year. It has majorly upset my daughter and I have concerns over the effect it is having on her and her schooling, as at present she is excelling! I know mediation won’t work and I’m not shore what legally I can do?? Can anyone please help?? Thanks.
Dean 8 Jul 2019
Can my x move away even if I have a court order saying I have my child every Wednesday and every weekend, plus my daughter wants to live with me and not her mother
Lyeates 3 Jun 2019
This is one of the worst articles I've ever read on this subject. You can do plenty if your ex-partner is wanting to move away. If your child is ised to regular weekday contact with you this is viewed as a high priority to maintain. Currently in the courts relocations within the UK are treated very similarly to international cases. SPEAK TO A LAWYER. And once you've done so representing yourself is definitely an option. This article should be removed!
El 23 Apr 2019
Husbands ex wife has moved my stepson (8) a 4.5 hour drive away, with the agreement of him coming down every other Saturday until Sunday evening (we used to have him every Friday & every other Saturday) and in the half terms. The agreement over phone/text was that she will bring him down every other weekend and in the half terms. She has been gone 6 weeks and he has only been down for 4 nights (during Easter half term) she has already gone back on the agreement, stating ‘I haven’t got any plans as of yet’, and throwing other arguments/money problems at him, even though they have nothing to do with him. We have 2 children, soon to be 3 living with us, so money is tight for a solicitor and hefty court fees, and I am unsure of where to go next?
Aw 8 Apr 2019
TE speak to support group families need fathers.. They will be able to offer you decent advice.
TE 4 Mar 2019
Hi there, I have a 7 year old daughter who lives with my ex wife. My ex has a partner with whom she has 2 other children under 3 years old. She has just informed me they wish to move to a new area 200 miles away to be close to her extended family, citing improved quality of life for my daughter, and support from her parents. After we separated nearly 5 years ago my ex moved from our shared home to a new town 70 miles away, without seeking my permission or telling me until the last minute. I bought a house the following year in the next town to where she lived specifically to be close to my daughter and to provide us with a stable home life on her visits and have had access in the form of one overnight stay with my daughter every second weekend since, and we reached a good equilibrium. My work does not allow me to move away from where I live, it is not portable, and buying a house in the new area does not seem feasible. This new proposed move will therefore severely impact the time my daughter can spend with me- either I will have to travel there and find lodging in a hotel or air bnb (financially prohibitive), or my daughter will have to perform a 200 mile round trip every other weekend to maintain current levels of contact. I have parental responsibility, please could you tell me what my rights are, and can I prevent the proposed move, and can she push it through via courts? Also, in anticipating that she will likely be allowed to move, can you give me any advice as to my rights about travel expenses and hotel/air bnb costs or my ability to demand my ex share travel time/cost with me? Can I deduct costs from child maintenance, or claim costs back? Pleased to hear, thank you!
50 28 Feb 2019
Hi my ex ran off with my 3 sons to Manchester from London. No contact for 2 years then out of blue we hve contact reconcile then because she can't be bothered to work behind my back moves a man into her house cutting all contact. Any advise pls
Cait 25 Feb 2019
Hey, I want to move 2 hours away with my son and I’m willing to travel every weekend so my ex can see our son but I’m being told I’m being taken to court if I move with him? Can my ex stop us from leaving a town where there is no jobs, not a decent schooling? I’m willing to pay the train fair ever other week so my ex can see our son. Please someone help me I’m so anxious
Jonesy 13 Jan 2019
So ex has moved 130miles away with the kids and won’t bring them half way to help me out anyone been able to get a court order to get this to happen?
Curious mammy 24 Dec 2018
Hi I'm wanting to move away and have agreed to bring my son to his dads every two weeks instead of him going every week as it's going to be a long way to travel back and forth every week My sons dad is saying he is taking me to court for moving away and says he can't travel to get his son due to having another child which is why I said I would travel every two weeks with my son I don't know what to do as I'm wanting to move to make mine and my sons life better as there is nothing where I live for my son to do and I can't find work where I live that is flexible around school hours Any advice on what to do ladies
AP 18 Dec 2018
My husbands ex wife has moved house, without telling him. There is no injunction on him. Sadly he only sees one of his children, following a very horrible court hearing. Ex wife got very upset when the school put her address on a school report and has denied moving. It is only by fluke he has found out that she has moved. Can she just move without informing him, she has coached the youngest to lie. There were so many indications that they had moved.
Clint 14 Dec 2018
I love with my partner who has a child from a previous relationship. The father refuses to travel and drop her off on sundays saying we have to travel to collect. His responsibility is two weekends a month..... We do everything else IE fetch carry school etc etc . He moved away from the town after the split which was his choice. Every Sunday becomes a slog where we have to negotiate with him to pick her up as he won’t Travel to us. Am I being unreasonable thinking that perhaps we aught to take responsibility and travel. He only has 6 nights a month to deal with.
joey 15 Nov 2018
Hi All, my ex and I separated in 2011, we have two boys together - 13 and 9. she has done everything in her power to keep them away from me, she changed her landline number, she would take away the ipad i bought for the younger kid so we can facetime, she would take a way the older boy's mobile phone for weeks at a time. now she has decided to move them to Nigeria, put them in school and she has returned to the country. The solicitors claim they can do very little because Nigeria is not a member state of the Hague Convention treaty. Please, what are my options?
MissE 4 Nov 2018
Hi, my partner has been separated from his ex for 2 years. They have two girls together and she also has a daughter from a previous relationship who has been raised by my partner as the biological father isn’t present. The ex went away to Scotland for school half term this week and has decided not to return home. This is a total shock and very upsetting for my partner. I know he has parental rights for his biological daughters as he is on their birth certificates but not for his ex’s daughter. We are unsure of his rights - I understand he can apply for a court order but after reading the Gov website there is a requirement to attend mediation beforehand, what happens if the ex doesn’t agree to mediation? Can you apply for a court order without mediation? Does my partner have any rights over his non-biological daughter? Or can he obtain rights? I’m not sure what the girls will do about school as I don’t think she has informed their current schools. Should my partner contact the school?
Big Donny 18 Oct 2018
@m1531.i tell you why she is allowed to get away with it .because she has a fanny they are like koala bears protected species boy .if they didn’t have fanny you would throw rocks at them .i no I would .
M1531 17 Oct 2018
Hi My Ex partner has moved, without telling me, and now I have no idea where my daughter is, she has always made contact as difficult as. Possible, and the last time I saw my daughter was over twelve months ago. I have no idea where to send court papers to get her back in to court Does anyone. Know if I apply for. Court on her old. Address if the court will track her down... Or will they simply return my application and say its the incorrect address. I can't believe she's just allowed to do this Many thanks Mark
L 13 Oct 2018
Hi I have been with my girlfriend for 15 years and have a 4 year old and a 6 year old (year 2). I am English, she is Scottish. She moved to England for me when we got together and has always missed her family and wanted to move back ther, which I don’t want to do. She has no family around her here so if she stayed here she would be on her own bringing up our kids. My family are really close by but are elderly and unable to help out on a regular basis. My siblings rarely see my kids despite living locally. Can my girlfriend take my kids to live in Scotland with her even though I have parental responsibility? I have had gambling problems and didn’t take help despite my partner asking me too and am worried that will affect my power to stop her movin. Any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks
Roy 4 Oct 2018
I've been separated for 10 years with my daughter who is 14 and my son who is 11. My ex partner moved 40 miles away 10 years ago. Over all of this time there have been ups and downs and I have always my two every other weekend and holidays. However I've never had a good relationship with my ex since separation. I struggled during the recession and only moved to be within a few miles of the kids mother a few years ago but commute 40 miles up north every day. I had hoped to see an improvement in communication but this has never happened. All my communciation is directly with my children now however I am at the point of asking myself why I moved. I simply feel as though I'm used or available just in case and have an increainsly diminishing importance in the lives of my own children. It's seems as though it's now not important if my children even see me at times when it's quite easy to not see Dad then that's what happens :-(. I suck it up but it's really getting to me now how things have diminished. I am wondering about moving back up north if things deteriorate much further. Any advice?
Ray 21 Sep 2018
Please advise, Me and my ex wife divorce almost 2 years ago, she agreed to have my daughter full time. I agreed to let her see her daughter every now and than because she had plans to marry some on in Ireland. Later on she asked me to if she could take her to Ireland with her until she starts school, i! I've been talking to my daughter every other day, she promised to bring her back and has been making excuses, end off she isn't answering any calls even blocked me. What do I do know? What are my rights in this. Please advice.
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Sep 2018
I am sorry to hear this. If your ex has moved your child out of the area and you have parental responsibility (registered on the birth certificate), your ex should have asked for your consent to move your child away. You would be able to apply directly to court, Our Separated Dads forum may be of help to you if you need additional advice regarding this matter. With regards to your holiday with your child, you would have to have permission from your ex to take your child out of the country
Mike 5 Sep 2018
Hi, my ex has just taken my 9 year old girl to live 70 miles away in wales without letting me know. I found out as her school rang me to ask why she was absent and they couldn't get hold of her and when I did she informed she has moved to Wales. Is this classed as kidnap. I'm unsure what to do. I provide everything for my little girl and look after her 60/70% of the time. I've sent off for her birth certificate to see if I'm on it which should give me rights. I've no idea where she's going to be living in Wales and she's taken her out of school and apparently moved her to another school in Wales. Also it's her birthday next wk and I've planned to take her to Berlin, Germany to a zoo she's always wanted to go to. I'm afraid if I contest her moving there she'll stop me taking her to Berlin which ive already paid for, can she do this? Please help I'm devastated
SeparatedDads Editor 4 Sep 2018
Much depends upon the circumstances and how long you have been looking after the children for. In this case, I suggest you seek legal advice as if your ex doesn't agree then you would have to take the matter to court. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
Ed 28 Aug 2018
My wife and I have been divorced about 6 months, we have a verbal agreement regarding our 6 year old daughter we basically have her 50% each and I pay an agreed sum of maintenance every month. She is now threatening to move away taking our daughter with her, our daughter does not want to leave and all her family and school friends are in her home town. My ex wife has a record for disorderly and verbally abusive behaviour and I have concerns for the welfare of our daughter with her and her new partner. My ex wife also has a son of 14 years to another father who she rarely has contact with due to her volatile behaviour. What are my options as a father to prevent her taking the child to another UK location.
p41 28 Aug 2018
Hi, Any advice please. My wife has recently had a breakdown and tried to take her own life. She went to stay with her dad in a different area to get the support she needed to get better - and is currently still there. I have remained in the house with our three girls aged 4, 7 and 10. There school is here and friends and my family. I am considering going for custody - with the hope I will get full residency - Does anyone know of similar stories - Will I have a chance or will she e more likely to win residency.
mich86 24 Aug 2018
hello we are looking for some advice a couple of nights ago my partner who's been split from his ex 6 yrs sent a text out the blue saying shes moving to France next yr whith there 13yr old daughter and leaving there 19 yr old in the UK of course he doesn't want his daughter moving to France but he feels if he says no she will hate him ! also next yr she will be going into yr 10 we don't feel up routing her when she is in the most important yrs of her schooling in regards to gcse exams ect is the best timing..... he also had concerns for his eldest daughter who is being left in the UK on her own..... we know she's an adult now but she has anxiety and depression and because of this she dropped out of college and has had a few jobs.... the ex seems to think she will be able to rent her own place and pay all her bills ext we live 2 hrs away and we know she won't ask us for help if needed just looking for a bit of advice
Bulletproof 21 Jul 2018
Please could you elaborate on the comment made above "Should you choose to fight the move in court, you will be battling for custody of your kids." Is simply preventing the move not an option?
SeparatedDads Editor 10 Jul 2018
If you have parental responsibility, then your ex has to request your permission to relocate. You do have an option of applying for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. If your daughter is 11, then her opinion will be taken into consideration. If your daughter wishes to remain at her current school and live with you, then you can apply via court for a child arrangement order, As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. However, as you have your daughter pretty much on a shared-care basis, you will stand a good chance. If you wish to push the issue, in the first instance you may wish to suggest your ex attends mediation in order to try to discuss the issue. Knowing what your daughter's opinion of the move will also help. If your daughter has no objection to relocating, then you may wish to continue with a similar access arrangement to what you have currently.
LH 6 Jul 2018
Hi, I split from my daughters mother 9 years ago. My daughter was 2 years at the time she is 11 now. We have no formal agreements in place. I currently have my daughter 5 nights a week one week and 2 nights the next week then 5 nights etc.... She also has 3 other children with two other partners after me she is no longer with them either. She has now met a new partner and been with him 2 months which is 1.5 hours away. He seems to treat them all well and I am happy for her. However she informed me 2 days ago that she is planning to move in with the new partner on August 6th. 4 weeks away. My daughter doesn't know this information yet. I am concerned about her past history with her relationships and the fact my daughter is due to join her new high school (where she lives now) in September. My ex is suggesting that nothing will change with the amount me and my daughter see each other. But the logistics just don't add up. If the very fresh relationship fails where does that leave my daughter? I suggested that my daughter could ask to live with me but she says that's not an option? My ex and the new partner have 7 kids between them and they are planning on moving into a 3 bedroom house for the time being another worry. I am concerned that all of this is not in my daughters best interest as she will have no family where the are planning to move to. I'm pulling my hair out worrying about this and how short the timescales are that she plans to do it. If my daughter wants to live with me then surely my ex cant stop her, with both have parental responsibilities.
Phil 4 Jul 2018
Hi my ex partner is thinking of moving to scotland just to be close to her family where as for me im not moving there im on the birth certificate and there is no abusive relationship or any problems like that but I want to no is what makes it right for her to do that if she wants to go why should the kid have to go to when I dont want to and will not be picking a kid up from scotland every weekend or evan go there once for that matter what are my fathers rights
SeparatedDads Editor 28 Jun 2018
Your only option would be to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. However, there is no guarantee that you would be given the order and that your partner would nt be allowed to move home. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
Lissi 26 Jun 2018
Hi I have only recently (days) separated after 8 years with my partner discovering she was having an affair. We have a 6 year old. I am concerned living in England that my ex may attempt to move back to Northern Ireland where her family are. We have lived in engalnd the past 8 years, my child has been schooled here since birth. Where do I stand? Help!
Jack Editor 25 Jun 2018
@Pratts - tbh it's not worth wasting your money taking the matter to court. If your son wants to go and your ex is offering you continued access then the court will agree. Remember, it's about your child, not you. I'd turn it around and try to be supportive - otherwise it's going to cause upset all round - do you really want that?
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Jun 2018
I am sorry to hear this. It is always very tricky as a court wil not try to stop a parent getting on with their lives if the parent is not moving away deliberately. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. If that is to remain with the resident parent and new family (especially if your ex is getting married and having a baby) then the court are likely to allow the move if visitation rights are promised. If you have shared-care, you have a better chance of being given residency than if you don't. However, you would have to prove why it was in your child's best interests to remain in the UK with you, which would not be easy. In this case, you may wish to seek some legal advice.
Stefan 25 Jun 2018
My ex girlfriend is recently after getting married. He has a very good job but is being relocated to America and she wants to take out 4 year old with them. As of now I have the child 3 days a week. Overnight one of those days (her mother collects the other days after work) we have never been through the courts before. We have had plenty of rows and arguments about the child but she has never stopped me from seeing her. I have a new born baby with my current girlfriend and my ex is currently expecting and want to move shortly after her new baby is born. Do I have any choices? What would be the odds of me winning a court battle? Neither of us are unfit parents and we both love our daughter very much. But I don't want my daughter to be all the way in America where I can barely see her maybe once or twice a year? Please please please can someone give me advice on how to proceed with this
Pratts 23 Jun 2018
My ex wife re married 6 years ago. Although we had joint custody. Our son has always lived with her and I see my son one night a week. And my own admission I have hardly helped with school holidays maybe a total of 6 weeks over the 8 years we have been spilt. Her husband is in the armed forces and she wants to move 150 miles away to be near his base. She has a school and house lined up. And she had told me that our son who is 13 is happy about the move and wants to go. I’m not willing to consent so we have to go to court to sort it I believe . She has offered me access of 2 weekends a month and she has offered to drive half way to meet me one weekend a month and the other she will drive most of the way I will have travel 12 miles on that occasion. She has also offered half of the school hols which I have never done before . What are my chances of stopping her ???
SeparatedDads Editor 21 Jun 2018
Your ex would have to request your consent to move your children out of the area (if you have parental responsibility). If you refuse, she would have to apply to court for permission. However, it is unlikely a court would refuse your ex's request as it would not attempt to stop a person getting on with their life, especially if she is willing to allow you to see the children. Therefore, it's a tricky situation. Your only recourse would be to suggest mediation to your ex and if she refuses apply to court. You may wish to seek some legal advice before you take any action in order to fully explore your options. Mutual agreement is always the best option, as court is always seen as a last resort given it can be stressful and upsetting all round.
Samantha 20 Jun 2018
I was with my partner for years I pretty much grow up with her I was only 20 when I meet her and she left when I was 28 .it wasn’t the best relationship had (many issues )we should have addressed but we stayed to the point where we hated each other both did our own thing in the last couple of years pretty much flat mates that fought .she went away to her family but it was a cover for her in front of her family.she had meet a guy online who lived up north she didn’t think that I new but I did and new about a lot of other things to just didn’t care to express it in the end I was done I happy for her to be gone I was sick of fighting with her and the games we played to hurt each other .then I just moved on to be honest I never went court for my daughter before you know it the years roll bye and I honestly forgot about my daughter .i had in it the back of my mind that it is the right thing for me to go to court but I was completely over my x and we just fight and it would have been drama and travel so I made i choice back then and I am sticking to it .had I bit of a melt down over my choice years later and still had bad feelings for my x .and tried to (forgive but can’t) she is still difficult and infuriating to me where it is best to keep our distance she can have our( daughter) it’s best for everyone even the children with so many years gone bye there step father is there father in reality .so that’s it in a nut shell I have walked away for good and forever .
Chris 20 Jun 2018
Hi, My long time partner and I separated 5 years ago. She moved up to Northumberland from London. I travelled back and forth and I ended up suffering exhaustion. She moved down 3 years ago because she said "she didn't get the support" up there. Since then I have them half of the week and am fully active in our two sons' lives. I push them with the school work and organise playdates with their friends etc etc. I got married last year and now have a 9 week old baby boy with my new wife, who my sons adore. My ex has now decided she wants to move back to Northumberland. She is depressed and wants to be near her family which I get, but I feel its going to have a huge negative impact on our boys because I'm such a big part of their lives. They're only 7 and 9. I won't be able to travel up more than once a month, it takes such a long time to get up there, plus its so draining when I work so hard to pay the bills etc. Do I have any rights hear? Can she move them without my consent, I have PR? She is putting her own happiness before the kids and wants to rip them away from the great school, all their friends, their father and baby brother. Is their anything I can do?
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Jun 2018
You would have to deal with this through mutual negotiation again (if and when it may come to it). A court will not stop a person getting on with their lives. So, it is likely to allow a move where the other parent challenges it - as long as the move is not seen as deliberately stopping the other person from seeing the children. You can challenge it, through the likes of a Prohibited Steps Order (if you think your ex will move without consent). Or a Specific Issue Order (where you wish to challenge her reasoning and justification of making the move). However, it is always best to try to resolve such issues through mediation as court is always seen as the last resort.
James 11 Jun 2018
Hi, my wife and I have been separated for 12 months, no divorce as yet, we currently both live in the same city and have 50/50 agreed custody of our son. We have nothing formal in place as yet, we have agreed both financial payment and when each of us have our son between ourselves. My ex is in a new relationship as am I, my concern is that her new partner lives in another city and she will move in with her new partner and take my son. Where do I stand on this?
Maggie 10 Jun 2018
Hi my daughter and her boyfriend moved from Wales to England when she waa 5 months pregnant. When she had the baby the boyfeiend left her after 1 week then 2 weeks after this left to go back to Wales. He is on the birth certificate can he try and take the baby to Wales to stay dhort ir long term if and when he wants? Baby is only a few weeks. If he wad the one that left and moved country and went back home what rights does he have to the baby if there isnt regular contact? Worried gran.
James 31 May 2018
Hi there Around 3 weeks ago my wife announced to me she had feelings for someone else and this other person had confirmed his feelings for her. This has really shocked me to my core. I had to go to doctors straight away and get counselling sorted, I couldn’t function. Although I am still angry and upset my feelings have now turned towards how we arrange childcare for our 5 year old son. A week ago today she moved out of our family home with our son to live with her parents (we tried living under the same roof but we couldn’t do it) what I am concerned about now is she can leave my son with her parents at any time she likes to socialise with her new person. Previously She has been going out late at night to a local studio (that this guy owns and runs) and This has been carrying on for a long time. Sometimes she was not Coming back till gone 1am in the morning and I was looking after our son at that time. I don’t think she is putting the boy first because she is out 3-4 times every week to rehearse with various bands. I don’t think it’s fair or morally right if im not informed who EXACTLY is putting our son to bed and looking after regardless of mother / grandparent. I feel as if I have become completely disempowered. She has already been trying to say how school holidays will work in the future. She doesn’t earn enough money to support herself and so has to use her parents home as a base. I briefly suggested she and our son can live in the house and I will move out - that means she would have to parent him consistently, i sense the only reason she is staying at her parents is to get free childcare. I just would like some advice on this please. I have emailed CAB and had some free legal advice but this is the 7th night in a row I haven’t been able to put my son to bed and Be there at night for him etc thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 31 May 2018
Applying to court is the only option you or your ex would have if your ex decided she wished to leave the country without your permission. If your wife is the general day-to-day primary carer of your children, then it is unlikely the court would prevent your ex from taking the children with her. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. However, the general rule is to allow the primary carer to continue in that role regardless of where in the world that may be. You would have to try to justify your reasons why your children shouldn't leave the country with their other parent. It is understandably very emotional and tricky, should this be the case. This is why the courts would prefer both parents to agree between themselves for what they consider long term to be in the best interests of the children.
Brad 29 May 2018
Hello, My wife and I are currently in the process of separating, and have three children under 10. She's Australian by birth, but we met and made our lives together here in the UK. Although this isn't something we've talked about, am I right in understanding from the above that should she choose to move back to Australia, and take the children with her, there's nothing I can do about it, unless I fight for full custody? Like I said, while this isn't something that's been suggested, the thought fills me wth absolute horror. Would I have no rights whatsoever to stop this?
SeparatedDads Editor 11 May 2018
I am sorry to hear this. Much depends on the circumstances and why your ex is planning to move. Likewise, if you cannot agree through mediation, then you would have to try to justify why it is in your child's best interests to remain with you as the primary carer. You may wish to seek some legal advice if you wish to pursue the matter to court. You can see more about the process via which
Lbh 10 May 2018
My wife informs me she is looking to move away with our daughter. We split in september and altho nothing is in writing she spends half the week with me and half the week with her mum...are there steps i can take to prevent this. My daughter is only 5 but she wants to stay with me and when me and her mokther was together it would be me that got her up and dressed and put her to bed every night so i see myself as her main carer. Any help would be appriciated.
Help? 7 May 2018
Hi, My fiancé and I are looking to move from England to Ireland. She has a two year old boy from a previous relationship and he would obviously be coming to. She is also pregnant with our child at the moment and is one of the reasons we want to move as I am from there. I have got a job lined up in Ireland (more money than what I am on) and have family all around us when we move there. Can the dad of the two year old stop this ? And if it went to the courts would it not be in my fiancé’s favour as she is the day to day carer and the ex partner only sees the child once every two weeks ? Would it be any different if we where married as we plan on getting married quite soon ?
SeparatedDads Editor 1 May 2018
The only recourse your husband has (if he disagrees with the move), is to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order to try to prevent the move (if he does not feel it is in his child's best interests). If your husband has parental responsibility of his daughter, then his ex should by law ask for his consent to leave the area. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
Very conserned step 30 Apr 2018
Good day Herewith I would like to find out something. My husband have a daughter of 9 years and he's ex wife decided to move as her new boyfriend got a new job. The probleme is the ex wife did not inform my husband that she is taking the child out of school and that she us moving what can he do legaly? Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 16 Apr 2018
I am sorry to hear this. If your wife is the current day-to-day primary carer of your child, then it is likely a court would allow your wife to move back to her home country. As long as your wife is not making the move deliberatley and can justify why she should move back (i.e family, financial reasons/support), then a court will not try to force her to remain in the UK. Your best option is to try to negotiate fair access and contact to your child and try to keep the relationship on an amicable levels so you can remain an integral part of your son's life. Unfortunately, with globalisation this is becoming a more and more frequent occurance.
Walcott1980 15 Apr 2018
My wife of 15 years and I have separated and we have a seven year old son. I am the sole bread winner in the relationship. She is originally from abroad and wishes to take our child over to spain to live where she has family. I am at a lost as to how I can prevent this from happening. My son loves his current school and social clubs that he attends and I fear the move would have a detrimental impact on him.
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Apr 2018
The family law process differs in Scotland to England (which is where this site is based). You may be able to apply to court if you wish to 'try' to prevent the move. If you have parental responsibility, you may be able to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. However, if you can trying to negotiate and agree an arrangement outside of court is always the best option. Court is always seen as the last resort. Much depends upon how integrated you are in your child's life on a day-to-day basis regarding whether a court would allow you residency. However, it is rare that a court will hand a child over from one parent to another without very good reason. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. The older the child is i.e a teenager, the more a court will consider the child's preference. You may wish to seek legal advice first in order to fully explore your options.
Very Scared Dad 11 Apr 2018
Hi really need advice ive just found out that my Ex-partner is planning to move 600miles From Scotland to England with my 8 Year old Daughter her current partner and there 2 children. The fact i work fulltime on minimum wage. live in private accomodation with very little left once i pay household bills /child maintenance/travel cost etc etc and i dont drive .Mean i would never be able to afford to see my daughter (NEVER) .... My Daughter has asked to come stay with me perminantly .... At what age can she decide to come stay with me ??....
Megan2001 10 Apr 2018
Hi I need to advice, I moved away with my daughter with the backing of her father my ex partner. We have mostly shared the drop off and pick up but it’s been increasingly me having to fit around times and the day he can do when he has access to a car. As the resident parent, who is responsible for picking up and dropping of my daughter and can I stipulate times (6pm on a Sunday as she has school and he lives over an hour away). Thanks for any help
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Mar 2018
Your only recourse would be to apply to court for contact
Smithy 26 Mar 2018
Hi I just want some advice about my ex she has stop me seeing my daughter over 4 years now, now I have just find out that she has moved away with out tell me or letting any of my family know just need to know which road is best to go down as I'm so disappointed that things gone like this she is not a nice person and very controlive she just would not let me be a dad
Mark 9 Mar 2018
My ex girlfriend is looking at moving to dumfries this id approx 70miles away. However i dont want her to take my child away. How do i stop this?
Bestie 9 Mar 2018
Hello I need some advice please. My daughters mother is moving with her new husband and my daughter to Scotland (over 300 miles away). I received a letter in the post from my ex telling me in just over a months time they will be moving. She has already enrolled my daughter in a new school in Scotland, bought a flat and excepted a job offer. We currently have a child arrangement order but this will be void once she moves. She is a very manipulative person. •So the advice I’m after is what, if anything, will the court award me in terms of contact? •Can my case be sped up as she is moving in just over a month?
SeparatedDads Editor 13 Feb 2018
REMO is an option for child maintenance cases that need to be enforced internationally, The reciprocal countries are listed via whichIt is better that you arrange child maintenance between you through a family-based arrangement.
Chick 30 Jan 2018
Hi my ex wife and daughter are moving to NZ in March for a new Job. Where do I stand with Child maintenance when they Move as my obligation to pay through the child maintenance service ceases but her lawyer says my obligation to pay the sum should be paid directly to her and they will pass on those details in due course?
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Jan 2018
Unfortunately, we cannot anticipate what a court may predict. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. You may wish to join our Separated Dads forum, where our members may be able to give you a better indication on how the process works and what the court will look for when making this assessment.
Weets 21 Jan 2018
Hi all I'm after a little bit of advice me and my ex split over a year ago and she wanted to move over 300miles from me with our child After a number of court days an order was made that we have shared custody of our child and she was not a lot to relocate And had to wait 10 months and she was aloud to re apply My question is if she re applies what are the chances of a judge granting it
SeparatedDads Editor 11 Jan 2018
You can email the administrator directly from the forum page. They will help you set up an account.
Andy 10 Jan 2018
A message to the administrator I've tried to register 3 times and it seems to think I'm some sort of robot. I'm in desperate need of some advice so if you could rectify this it would be much appreciated.
Londonguy 27 Nov 2017
Hi guys thank you for taking time to listen to me. My wife left me at the end of this august without a word and took my three daughters. Relocated located them and put them in new schools without my knowledge 200 miles away. She has no stopped all contact with me and not even responding to any messages of a request of a phone call for the girls. I'm a so distressed as I am very close to my girls. I was a stay at home dad for 1.5 years and was there for all the nursery/school milestones. They are all under 8. I have also been been financially supporting her by putting money in her account even without her asking. My so died 7 years ago and she never mentally recovered. I am desperate for full custody as I know have a secure part time job and a roof over my head while she has cramped up at her parents. We are separated but I know this is going to turn into a divorce. She has a very manipulative family. This situation is really effecting me. I didicated my whole life to them girls. I just need to know what moves to make next. I have never been violent or anything like that. Before she left we did have a row. And came from work to a empty house. Thank you for listening
TomMc Editor 9 Nov 2017
@Ben - I really feel for you having to go through this. I didn't see my daughter for three years, but she was in the same country. You would have to take it through court. But because of the international persepctive it would cost a fortune to hire an international lawyer.
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Nov 2017
You don't say whether this agreement was in writing or not? However, it would be tricky to enforce a return to the UK if it can be proved your child is settled in a school etc and/or with life in Australia. You would have to seek legal advice to see whether you could attempt to bring the matter to court if your ex continues to refuse.
SDavies886 3 Nov 2017
Hi, I gave my ex permission to move to Australia with my daughter on a temporary basis. We had an amicable relationship and she has always allowed me contact whenever I like. As we were amicable, we never defined exactly how long. She has been there for 6 months and now wants to continue to stay. I have said she has been away for long enough now and she no longer has my permission to stay away. Am I able to make her come back to the UK with our child?
SeparatedDads Editor 3 Oct 2017
Firstly, your best option is to try and resolve this with your ex directly. Perhaps you could mention both meeting halfway, each way. If your ex refuses to listen, then you may wish to suggest mediation. Or, a solicitor's letter specifying that as you agreed to consent to your ex moving away with your child (if you have Parental Responsibility your ex has to request consent), on the premis that you would share the pick-up and drop offs, then your ex is breaching the agreement and you will have no hesitation in taking the matter to court if she refuses to attend mediation. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. If you apply under a Specific Issue Order, the court can request that your ex shares the journey. However, there is little you can do, for instance, if your ex doesn't have a car or any mode of transport. There is no point in restricting the payment of child maintenance as you will only be hit with arrears down the line and have to pay it back, so in this case you are shooting yourself in the foot by refusing to pay. The most you can request is a variation
SeparatedDads Editor 28 Sep 2017
I am sorry to hear this. It is gender-specific, as the site is Separated Dads and aimed at fathers who more often than not are the non-resident parent. As you have parental responsibility, then your ex has to request your consent to move out of the area. If you do not give your consent, he would have to apply to court for permission. If you fear your ex may try to move without your consent, you can pre-empt this by applying for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO, is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. However, as in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. This means you would have to try to justify why it was not in your children's best interests to remove them from the area i.e family ties, schooling, support etc. Your ex would have to argue why it is in the children's best interests to move. A court will generally not stop a person from trying to get on with their lives, but if it thought your ex was moving from the area with no valid or justifiable reason, then the court can issue and order to prevent the move. I hope this helps.
Jennie 27 Sep 2017
I'd like to start by saying this has been helpful although I'd like to say this is very gender specific ... I am the children's mother and due to a breakdown of the marriage and a personal mental breakdown I was the one removed from the children and our home .... I am now better but not in a financial position nor am I in suitable housing accommodation to have my children live with me ... I live in London and my ex is planning to move away to Devon before Christmas... I'm devastated and broken and I am going to find it extremely difficult without my daughters
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Sep 2017
There is little you can do to force your partner to return to the UK with you and your child. Neither would you be able to remove your child from your partner's home country without her consent. If your partner refuses to return home, you would have to take the matter to court to determine with whom your child should live. However, it will be far more difficult for you to get an active decision to take your child back to the UK. The courts are more likely to allow your partner to remain as the primary carer of your child within her home country with you (if you leave to return to the UK) awarded periodical access.
Bigluk78 19 Sep 2017
Hi My partner and I had an baby on the uk 6 months ago. I am uk citizen and the baby has a uk passport. She has a eu passport. She has been suffering from post natal depression and we are in her home country. She has now said she wants to recover in her home country but had no timescale when she wants to come back. I obviously want her to recover but am concerned if she decides she wants to stay permanently and what my rights are as I am unable to stay due to my work commitments in the uk.
codenamepj 7 Sep 2017
I am a recovering alcoholic and cocaine addict. I put my family through HELL during my addiction. I am now 12 months clean and looking at steps to be back in my daughter's life again. my ex, for my daughter's safety, is reluctant for me to see her. which I understand as she only my sees the damage I caused and not what position I am in now. what are my options? do I have a right to see my daughter? I am currently not paying CSA as I have been unemployed and it is in arrears, however it is in the process of being taken from my benefits. does this effect my right to see my daughter? there is also the fact that my daughter may not be ready to see me, she's 10 years old. any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
Ant 6 Sep 2017
Hi I've got a son who's 4 lives with his mother, when we split up it was ok at first I was seeing him at weekends then we argued one weekend outside my place in front of people, and next thing I know getting accused of domestic violence and abuse of harrassment! I got cleared of all charges but she's blocked everyway of contacting her on social media and moved away with my son! Don't know where he is her family not saying where she's moved too! My gut feeling she's took him back to Scotland where she's from and family life can she do that without my permission, and I've tried solicitors to help gain contact they say going cost around £1,500 to £3,000 grand get contact and arrangements I can not afford that. Is there any other way or advice can give me please.
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Sep 2017
Your only recourse would be to ask her to attend mediation about splitting the travel arrangements if you cannot agree between yourselves. Court is the last resort if your ex refuses to negotiate.The court will then decide on your behalf. Therefore, negotiation is key here.
And 4 Sep 2017
I separated from my ex 18months ago and she decided when we split she would move 100miles away to be near her family. It was agreed I would see my son every other weekend, the problem is a 200mile round trip on a Friday afternoon/evening can take 5 hours if not more. Apart from applying to take travel costs into consideration with csa payments is there anything else that can be done, i.e she drives half n hour to meet me to cut down sitting in traffic for my son ??
SeparatedDads Editor 4 Sep 2017
If you have parental responsibility of your children, then your ex would have to request your consent to move and if you refuse apply to court. However, if you feel she may move without your consent, you can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A PSO, is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. We have all heard the stories of a parent taking their child for the weekend and not returning them or going abroad with them and it becoming extremely difficult for the other parent to get their child back. However, as in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
SeparatedDads Editor 4 Sep 2017
I am sorry to hear this. If you separate from your partner and you have parental responsibility and your partner becomes the primary carer, she would have to request your permission to move to Ireland. However, if you refuse, she would have the option to apply to court and as in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. In all likelihood, if she can justify her reasons why she wishes to make the move i.e family support etc, then there is a good chance the court would allow this.
Zink 2 Sep 2017
Hi I have a 2 kids with my x partner and we live same town she fined sum one on facebfacebook she want to move his city is she can take my kids to his city. She let's me see kids any time I help her everthing finans or any help but I don't want my kids go that city can I stop them my kids age 4.and 5 years we very close with my kids
Jkdab 2 Sep 2017
Hi, my and my partner are at a stage where i just dont want to be with her any more, but we have 2 children and im just un happy, tried to give it time, but it is just not working. The downside is we live in the uk, and she is from ireland and all her family are still living their. Im worried about what happens to my children if we split up and she decided to up and leave back to ireland? Is she allowed to do that? Because the thought of only seeing my kids a few times a year is killing me as i couldnt cope without them, its not like she'd be moving a few miles away, its a whole different country where i couldnt just see them a few times a week(if i could afford too i would but flying and hotels would cost q bomb all the time)
Legz1973 24 Aug 2017
Hi we are from uk my son split up from his girlfriend about 3 1/2 years ago he is settled with someone else now his ex went on holiday to turkey 2 weeks ago and met her new fella who lives there now she has come back and told my son she is taking there son and moving there , my son is devasted as he has him more than half the time what are his rights he is on the birth certificate thanks
Nj 5 Jun 2017
Im after some advice if possible please... my wife and i are currently separating. Everything is amicable at the moment. We have agreed its in the best interest of the children to stay in the matrimonial home with their mum. We have also agreed that i see them 6 out of 14 days. Is it worth anything if i get this in writing, or does it need to go through solicitors.? I do not want her to change her mind later down the line and find out that our agreement is worthless. Thanks
Ash 5 Jun 2017
I split up with my girlfiriend of 5 years quite a while ago and just recently found out shes seeing someone and its left me heartbroken! (We have a little boy together)Just want to know how people get through this. i just cant stand to think she and my little boy will settle down with someone else when i really hoped and thought things would work out ?? I feel like ive hit rock bottom And it hurts so much! I thinkf i may been suffering with depressiom now as all sorts of scary things are running through my head. Really need some help amd advise of people who have beem through this. Thanks x
Scotty 5 Jun 2017
My partner has a 4 yr old child with her ex husband. Currently he sees the child fortnightly over the weekend, and sometimes longer with pre arrangement. We live roughly 30 mins from him. We have decided to move 1.5hrs away due to a job opportunity for my partner that will allow us a better quality of life. We informed her ex by email that this was a possibility 3 weeks ago (when it became a option we were seriously considering) and have now informed him that we are going ahead with the plan. We have offered to bring the child to him every fortnight so that their time together does not change, and said we will obviously look at longer periods and how they will be facilitated on a time by time basis. We want to move before the child starts school in September. As was expected, the ex isn't happy that we are moving. What is the law in this situation?
SeparatedDads Editor 1 Jun 2017
By law you would have to ask for your ex's consent. If he will not give it, you can suggest mediation as a way of trying to resolve the issue out of court, if he refuses you would have to apply to court. If you move without your ex's consent, if he chooses to take the matter to court, a court will always decide upon what it thinks is in the best interests of your child with regards to forcing you by law move back to the area.
Mummyof3 31 May 2017
My husband I have had a very rocky relationship for just over three years. He leaves me all the time as a way of controlling me and sometimes he's abusive. I can't keep going back to this, I can't keep dragging my children through it. I have decided I want to move away to Cornwall to be with my family as I have no family support network where I live now (we live in the east midlands). I just wondered if I have to have my ex husbands permission to take the children or if he could stop me from doing this?
TomGood78 Editor 25 May 2017
@Libby21 - if your ex refuses you would have to apply to court if you want to make this happen. It's not an unreasonable request and the courts don't want to stop you trying to get on with your life. If you're willing to put a good access plan in place - the court won't stop you moving. Tell your ex you would much rather do it with his consent and maybe offer a signed agreement through mediation. Tell him to get some legal advice as it's likely a solicitor would tell him he can't really object. Your son will be able to give his opinion now because of his age. T.
SeparatedDads Editor 22 May 2017
I am sorry to hear this. Much depends upon whether you wish to agree a solution or attempt to stop the move via a Prohibited Steps Order. Mediation is the better alternative if you feel you don't want to stop your ex, but need some kind of re-assurance that access to your children will be continued. It is obviously a massive emotional jolt to you and you may wish to seek legal advice about whether a PSO is something you might consider applying for. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
LondonDad 22 May 2017
My partner and i separated over 2 years ago. we have three children (3, 6, 8) and i have been travelling from London to Wales every other weekend to have the kids. I am lucky enough to have a house in Wales where i can have the kids over. Now my ex has informed me that it is her intent to move back to her native New Zealand at some time in near future taking the children with her. We are not yet divorced and are still working through finacial arrangements with a mediator. Obviously i am keen to continue having a relationship with my children but this is possibly the worst move i can think of given time zone and geographical distance. While i am trying to keep the separation as amicable as possible this suggestion from my ex has really made life uncomfortable and i am not sure how to proceed in discussions with her both from a financial perspective and from a legal stand point. What are my options for maintaining contact with the children and what are my future financial options given that i will be spending a lot of money each year just to keep in touch.
Libby21 20 May 2017
I've been separated from my ex for 8 years and have a son who is ten years old. My ex lives 2.5 hour drive away and sees him every other weekend plus holidays. I meet him half way most times to help ease the journey for him. We live in Northern Ireland and my partner of 5 years is from England but moved here to be with me and is a great stepdad. We now have a daughter together and would like to move to England together as my partner has found it difficult settling in NI and would like to be near his mum who lives on her own and has nobody. We would wait till my son is 12 and moving to secondary school before we move. I have a good relationship with my ex and have always helped him to see his son but I know he will say no when I ask for his permission as he would think England is too far away. I don't want to go to court with this it would just be nice for us to come to an arrangement to make it work. Am I being unreasonable to ask my ex to see his 12year old son every 3-4 weeks plus any holidays? Does my son have a say in what he wants to do?
SeparatedDads Editor 17 May 2017
Your next option is to take the matter to court. If you cannot find your child, along with the C100 contact form, you should fill in a C4 form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. This means the court can put a trace on your child to allow you to apply to the courts for access.
Kymlee 16 May 2017
Me explain partner has used our son as toy for the past 2 years. She is violent and aggressive and I have report3d her to ssd and the police each time she has assaulted me. Often in front of our son. She plays on contact. Allowed me to have him for a fee weekends here and there and now has moved to England. I don't are that she has moved but I am concerned about his welfare and want to see him as he wants to see me too. My ex has played head games with our son who is 10 and is worse since I have a new partner. It infuriates me that I am not being heard by agencies and feel it's discrimination as I am a man.i have no idea where he is. She has refused to engage with solicitor or mediation. Where do I go next.
Daddy Broggo 15 May 2017
My ex lives with my 7 year old daughter, 2mins away from me and her school. I see my daughter every week, overnight Thursday and Friday (with school runs etc). Now they are moving 3hrs away to Ipswich. Now I don't have any issue with the move as that's just life but I don't know what requests I can make to ensure I still see my daughter. I'll lose all contact time with her in the week as I'll never be able to do a 6hrs trip just to see her after school. Can I ask her to meet me half way for pickups and drop offs because that'll be 12hrs out of my 48hr window of cantact time, just in travelling. Not to mention fuel costs and wear and tear on the car. I have a pretty good relationship with my ex but I was wondering if there are any reasonable guidelines that I could ask her for?
Lol 12 May 2017
Hi, My partner and I need to move as we can no longer afford the area we live in. We have been going into debt and our son having to share a bedroom with us. I have a daughter with another man he lives some distance from us at the moment but works near so has been ok with the picking up and dropping off. I also need to apply for her secondary school in oct so need to move within catchment and for my son who I need to apply for reception place in Jan. We looked at areas within a localish radius but couldn't find affordable housing and good schools. We have had to look further away. It has been a very long process with alot to consider and manage. We recently found an area which is 126 miles from his house. Our current house is 47 miles from his. We have suggested that we meet half way and the timings of the journey for him would be 15 mins less. Also have asked how the Sunday sleepover can be made up. He does work away and regularly misses contact with his daughter as he travels overseas. He has had reg contact with her since she was 4 but has never lived with her. She is now 10 does that give her any say? He was aware of the planning and seeemed fine but the last few days has said he refuses to consent to any school or any move. What do we do Re her education? We have to move as cannot pay the rent where we are and I need to arrange school and nursery for my son. Is doesn't seem right that he can refuse her an education and will need resolving. Can someone stop a family moving so he can keep an arrangement that is for his convenience as the change would still maintain the contact? . Please can you let me know what the law says, time frames Re PSO and costs likely should it go to court as well as how long the process would take. Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 9 May 2017
If you fear your ex may take your children away without your consent, then you may be able to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO, is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. We have all heard the stories of a parent taking their child for the weekend and not returning them or going abroad with them and it becoming extremely difficult for the other parent to get their child back. Thankfully, this is one of the scenarios that a PSO seeks to prevent. However, as in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. If your ex has family connections in the area and can prove why it is in your children's best interests to move into this new area, then the court will listen. Likewise, if you can prove why it isn't, then you too will be able to put your reasoning across. Family connections, stability and consistency are valued by the court. But neither will the court try to prevent parents from getting on with their lives if and where needed.
T22 8 May 2017
My ex has been living nearby with my two children for the past year since we divorced. My work situation has changed and I am now earning half the amount I used to. I told her I was going to have to reduce child maintenance and now she is threatening me saying that if I reduce child maintenance she can't afford to live here and wants to take the children a 2 hour drive away. Even thought she clearly lives well having made a lot expensive purchases since the divorce. I see them every other weekend. They are happy and settled in school and where she wants to move is no cheaper than where she lives currently. What can I do? Mediation hasn't worked in the past, would the courts be able to do anything?
Scared 7 May 2017
My wife has taken my kids overseas, I expect she is having an affair and I want her to bring them home. I signed a release form so they could go. If she doesn't want to bring them back what can I do?
SeparatedDads Editor 4 May 2017
I'm afraid as we are a UK-based site we only have knowledge of UK-based family law which may differ in Australia.
Stick 4 May 2017
Hi i live in mt druitt wanting to move 3.5 hours away just want to know if i can do that ir if my ex can order me back
Marky 2 May 2017
Hi all. My wife left me in 2012. We were in Tiverton at the time. We had been there for 6 months. She had a stable job but i had no such luck. I was proudly house husband for that period but my self esteem was getting eroded and fast. When she left me i had to move home to Dorset to be with family and friends. She moved to Somerset and has subsequently moved to Nelson South Wales and now Caerphilly. In the divorce agreement we agreed on my access every other weekend...two weeks in the summer...one week easter and alternate Christmas's. Despite that fact that she has moved from England to Wales we have always ensured that we would meet half way to facilitate contact..so meeting Friday evening and Sunday evening at an agreed location and time. For five years this has gone on....no issues...on March 10th my ex said to me that she could no longer do the trip...which is less than 3 hrs in total saying that if i wanted to see the boys aged 8 and 6 i would now have to make a 7 hr round trip to get them. What?? After a full working week this is impossible for me. I am exceptionally close to my babies. My eldest in particular will be destroyed. Neither of them want to go home on the Sunday anyway citing boredom..no fun..no family...etc. Please help.
SeparatedDads Editor 19 Apr 2017
If your ex has parental responsibility of your child, he can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts (if he thinks you may leave the area without his consent). A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their child. However, it does not mean the court will grant the order. If your ex refuses his consent, then you too can apply to the courts to ask the court's permission to move from the area with your child. The court is not against people trying to get on with their lives. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application. If your ex has had regular contact with your child, the court will want to assure this will not be irretrievably fractured should you leave the area. You may wish to suggest mediation to your ex first as a way of trying to resolve the issue without having to resort to court. This way you can attempt to come up with an access plan between you. Sixty miles is unlikely to be turned down by the court (if your ex still refuses and you are forced to apply) as a good father/daughter relationship can still be maintained over such a distance.
Saz 18 Apr 2017
Hi. I live in Scotland but want to move 60miles away to live with my new partner in England but the ex of my 6year old says no. We have never been a couple but he's always had regular contact with his daughter. Can he take me to court and stop me from going?
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Apr 2017
Regardless of whether your ex has contact to your children, you would have to request written permission from your ex if he has parental responsibility. If he refuses, then you would have to request permission from the courts. Otherwise, if you take the children out of the country without permission, you could be charged with abduction
maddy93 17 Apr 2017
Hi, Me and my ex partner separate last year in October. He left me because he didn't want the second child ( still pregnant. 36 weeks ). Now I would like to move back to Germany, as I'm from there. Our first kid is 18 month now, and my question would be. Am I aloud to move abroad with my kids? Like, do I need his permission to take the kids with me? As soon as our second kid is born, I was gonna move back. ( reason because I would have more help over in Germany and would be around my family. ) not strong arguments I know, but over here im not entitled to anything and back I Germany I would be. Since he left me back in October he hasn't bothered with our daughter much ( got it written down I a diary ) and I think it would be best for our kids to life in Germany with me. I can just give them a better life over there then here. Help please?
N77 3 Apr 2017
Hi, I split from my ex 5 years ago, divorce came thro last Nov, he moved from the family home 150miles away a year later we moved 150miles in the other direction, he gave consent to this, I have the emails, since then we travel halfway for him to pick up, lately the children do not want to go, (11,13) and he doesn't give me much notice about when he wants them, last oct he didn't want them and I convinced him to, xmas he couldn't do the dates I gave him, this year I arranged Easter, which he now tells me he will have to work part of it, and summer hols he gave me no dates apart from 17th as he is re marrying, which I arranged with my partner so they could be there, no other dates were discussed, he now wants them 2 weeks over that, one being our holiday....I have said yes to one week but the children don't want to do two, my youngest tried to talk to him but he blamed me for not helping him, saying he hadn't seen them for 6 months, I said I had never stopped him from seeing them if he had a few weekend etc he could come up and have them. He said that he couldn't afford that, and that it was me being selfish, he then said he wasn't going to pay child maintance any more and was taking legal advice. I've tried to keep lines open, but I think I must take what my children want, they were very upset coming back from his, and don't want to go I have to tell them they are going. Have I been unreasonable? Thanks
Mark 31 Mar 2017
My ex wife has just decided to emigrate to the states with my 14 daughter, my daughter has issues and self harms, but says she wants to go with her mum. Should I agree with the move, would my daughter get the same care in the states, and if not should I try and stop her from going, for her own welfare and would the courts support me?
DrLazarous 29 Mar 2017
Hi all. I've been separated from my partner now for 4 years, we have a son together. When we separated she moved back to her home town in south wales (130 miles away). Since then I have been making the round trip every 4-6 weeks on the weekends to have him stay with me for those couple of days. But recently I have had to surrender my driving license due to medical reasons and may not have it back for some time. I asked her whether she could start picking him up from my house at the end of the weekend as i could arrange to pick him up from hers but not to get him home again. I have parental responsibility and whilst I didn't put up much of a fight when she left and took him (and 90% of my furniture i'll add) I certainly didn't give consent for him to go. I have spoken to a solicitor about the situation and been told that under the circumstances that half of the responsibility for travel should fall on her, however she is being very difficult to say the least (withholding access, verbal abuse, unreasonable behavior etc), so I'm really just wondering where I stand legally and whether or not I'm barking up trees in pursuing this through the courts.
Blakes1 24 Mar 2017
Hi My soon to be ex could be heading to live back with her parents and my boys 150 miles away We're on good terms and I guess I would see them every fortnight.the prospective cost of having to drive so far to bring them home to take them back again frightens me! A potential 600 mile round trip every other weekend unless I stay up there in hotels with them! Again at a huge cost Is my wife legally supposed to meet me half way? Or do I have to drive an the way to get them I don't think she will b willing to meet me halfway as it's my fault she's divorcing me
SeparatedDads Editor 13 Mar 2017
You would have to take the matter to court with the form C100 to apply for contact with your child and it will cost. Once a court order is in place, you both would have to adhere to it. However, if your ex decided to take the matter of the surname to court, in all likelihood the court might allow the change. Your ex can also make the change and use her new husband's name informally without your permission for the likes of school and her GP. You would have to make the decision based upon how strongly you feel about the name change and whether it is worth the anxiety. A name is just a name, but your daughter will always be your daughter regardless of what name she goes under. Plus, as soon as she gets to age 18, she will be allowed to change it back.
Jay 12 Mar 2017
Hi, me and my partner split up nearly 2 years ago. Last march she moved back too Ireland with my daughter as she has supportive family over there I thought it would be the best move for my daughter as where we was we both don't have a brilliant support network. She is with her new man over there and has asked if I will allow her to have his surname should they marry. I refused, but now she is stopping any contact I can have with my daughter over the phone. is there anything I am able to do?
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Mar 2017
If your name is not registered on the birth certificate then you will effectively have no rights over your child. In the first instance you would have to apply for court for Parental Responsibility which will give you some rights over the welfare of your child. However, this would take time to come to court and it may be that your girlfriend might have made the decision to move back to England. I can only suggest you seek legal advice as Scottish family law will differ from English. However, as a new parent there is really little you can do to stop her if she makes this decision - apart from seeking legal advice to see whether you would have a case to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order.
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Mar 2017
It is highly unlikely you would be prevented from moving an hour away. Perhaps, you could suggest mediation with your ex in order to come to an agreement, if you can't resolve the matter between yourselves. In this case, if you moved without his authority, it is highly unlikely a court would move to bring you back given the close proximity of your ex (this is only done in cases where the move would prevent the non-resident parent from being able to have reasonable access to the children). However, much depends upon your ex's actions and whether he wants to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order to try to stop you. This will cost and if he decided to seek legal advice, a solicitor may tell him it is not worth paying to go to court if he is likely to lose the case. It may be worth you seeking some legal advice and perhaps asking a solicitor to draft a letter to outline the situation and mutual ways to resolve it.
Jonny 7 Mar 2017
Me and girlfriend live in Scotland she's 3 month pregnant. she moved up to Scotland from England and she got pregnant in the first few weeks of getting together. She's now saying she's getting really home sick. I met her mum a few weeks ago and she said my name won't be going on the register which I found really strange? I'm thinking she's gonna move back to England and I don't know what I would do if this happened. Any advice would be great. Thanks
Ann 7 Mar 2017
Thank you. . So does this mean I forever have to live in the same town as him.. I want to move somewhere I feel is better for us as a family which would still be in the same county let alone same country.. and only an hour drive away instead of 5 mins away.. access still would be had.. but a change of school due to being a little further away would be needed.. wouldn't this be seen as petty to go to court.. but he would refuse consent so what can I actually do.? I don't feel this is quite fair when I'm still being seen as reasonable for access etc.. plus he has other siblings with us in his home. Thank you for helping.
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Mar 2017
Yes, you do need your child's father's permission to move if the father of your child has parental responsibility. Some resident parents will take the risk of moving without consent from their ex. However, there is always a risk that they could be brought back to the area if the matter goes to court. If your ex refuses consent, then you too will be able to take the matter to court and request the court's permission to move your child out of the area. The court will assess both of your situations and make a decision regarding what it thinks is in the best interests of your child. Quite often the court will let the parent move with their child if the parent can give a good reason for wanting to move, such as supportive family and friend links etc. With regards to child maintenance you are eligible to claim, please see CMS which
Ann 7 Mar 2017
Hi.. me and my childs father split up over 5 years ago.. we live in the same county and I wish to move.. still staying in the same county but a longer distance for him to drive therefore making weekly contact to weekend contact .. I would never deny access or purposefully make it awkward.. but due to the move it means my child would need to move schools and this is his only concern.. he has parental responsibility as he is on the birth certificate but refuses to pay maintenance cos he says he buys for his child whilst he has them there and provides for him at his house.. if I am staying in the same county and not denying access do I need his permission to move? And change schools? He has threatened court over it. Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Feb 2017
A person who has parental responsibility for a child has the right to make decisions about their care and upbringing. If you disagree with the other person who has PR of your child regarding the decision they are intending to/or have made then the likes of a Prohibited Steps Order or Specfic Issue Order will put that question to the test. If the parents can't resolve the dispute between them, then it will be left up to the courts to make a decision based upon what it thinks is in the best interests of your child. You can see what constitutes PR whichWhere an ex partner has made a decision to move away without consulting the other parent, if the court deems it unfair they can be made to return.
Peter 26 Feb 2017
Hi, Thank you for responding. I dont think it's true that she cant lawfully move without my say so. Where does this information come from?
Peter 23 Feb 2017
Hi, I have been separtaed from my ex for 8 years now and now she has said that she is moving 4 hours away and that I can only have him during the school holiday and every 4th weekend. I have been having him every weekend for the past 8 years. She also has another son who is 7 and she is not with that father either. My concerns are for my sons emotional support as he is suspected ASD and is currently under assessment. the school he goes to is fantastic and we have worked hard to find good teachers who will go the extra mile for him and I am starting to see some real improvement in him. I am happy for her to move but would like my son to stay with my wife and I. She is very stubborn and thinks that just because she is the mother that all decisions are hers and i feel as though there is no talking to her. I have contacted a mediator today, but I feel that this will not resolve the issue either. I have parental responsibility, but i'm not sure where I stand legally. I really don't want him to change to schools as this would set his progress back years.
Dani 18 Feb 2017
Hi, Seven years ago i separated from my ex and she refused contact with my son who was 2 years old at that time. through court I managed to get 4 hours contact weekly with my son and soon after she moved 22 miles away and forced me to see my son at play center for 30-45 mins in her presence and even brain washed my son not to talk to me. I regularly kept the contact and did whatever possible as any father could do . I was afraid that she might could make things worse by saying that child is getting distressed (also mentioned by social worker at court that someone is brain washing the child) and i kept quite . now she wants to move four hours away and telling me that I can only see my son in holidays. I understand that father and mother are both important for children but I am very sad that will not be able to see my son regularly. Please advise what can i do. regards
SeparatedDads Editor 10 Feb 2017
As you have parental responsibility of your children, by law your ex should ask you for consent to move out of the area. You have two options to agree, or if you think your ex may move without your consent, then you can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. Therefore, you would have to prove why it was not in your best interests for your ex to move away with the children i.e disruption from school, friends, family, close network etc. Your ex would have to justify her own reasons as to why she thinks it would be in the children's best inerests. With regards to your own move, this should not impinge on any decision, if your decision to move will not impact on the children's usual routine. You may wish to seek legal advice in order to further explore your options.
Aramis 9 Feb 2017
Me and and my ex wife separated just over 2 years ago due to her infidelity. We have two daughters aged 5 and 8. I pick the girls up from school on Friday and drop them off Monday morning with work being very supportive. I currently live in the village where the girls attend school but work 25 miles away. Their Mother lives in the next village. I am planning to move closer to work, approx 20 miles from their school. This won't impact on my ability to pick up/drop off or I wouldn't consider it. The ex has now announced her intention to move 75 miles south. This would curtail my time with them significantly. From reading this very helpful site I understand that I should be considered to have parental responsibility and as such should be able to at least challenge the move. She has no family or friends or even a job at this point where she is planning to move and has a history of mental health issues which I hope would help my case. My concerns are that by moving i may prejudice my position in the eyes of the court if they consider me to have left the area? (In reality moving raises the possibility that I could have the girls full time as i could then juggle school runs and work) In addition I allowed her to divorce me as at the time I didn't want to deal with solicitors, might this affect my rights?
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Jan 2017
if the father has parental responsibility, then by law you have to request his consent to move away. Some resident parents will make the move anyway and hope the courts will not decide to bring them back. However, if your ex decides to pursue the matter through the courts, then this could quite possibly occur. If your ex doesn not agree to the move, then you would have to try to either negotiate the terms through mediation, or take the matter to court and a court will decide upon what it thinks is in your son's best interests.
anon 25 Jan 2017
Hi There I've been separated from my partner for 7 years now and he sees his son every other weekend . I would like to relocate within the uk with our son who is 9 and still stick to the every other weekend as dont want to stop any access but was told yesterday that I cannot move anywhere without the fathers consent? Please would you be able to advise me any further information many thanks .
CJ81 21 Jan 2017
Hi there, need a little help. Me and my sons father split up about 2 years ago. At the start he was allowed continuous access (after work during the week bathing and putting our son to bed) but this was unrealistic because he always turned it into something about us. I changed it to the weekend either Friday to Saturday then the week after Saturday night to Sunday night. This worked for a while but he wasn't happy as he "wanted a life" he wanted every second weekend, so I complied as it's whatever is best for our son (4years old) I was also supplying him clothes, toys etc every month to keep at his. (Or his fathers as he doesn't have his own home or a separate bed for our son) He drives and I don't. He stays under 10 minutes drive away (or anything up to an hour on public transport) he recently demanded that I start dropping out son off to him on his weekends and picking him up as it wasn't fair on him (not our son) having to do this once a fortnight. I have came to an agreement that his dad picks up our son from nursery on the Friday and he drops him at my sister (5 minutes drive from him...by she stays further from me) and she now drives down to me and my sons home with him. He doesn't ask about his progress at nursery or any of the groups he is in (art and sport) when our son does something bad he laughs and gets angry when our son misbehaves and doesn't understand the impact of his example. (He allowed my son to defecate on a pavement) and still thinks it is funny) So here is my problem: I'm moving away. To a stunning area (my area isn't the greatest) with a very select school. Absolutely better lifestyle for my son. It is 59 miles away now. I am going to even offer half the cost petrol money on his weekends. And Skype and phone calls as many nights as he wants. I will be telling him soon. I just don't know how to approach this. He is a very emotional angry man so I feel that arranging mediation to speak about this would be the best way forward. I'm just looking for confirmation that I am following all the correct procedures and I haven't missed anything really?
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Jan 2017
You're not obliged to pay any further money on top of your child maintenance (if you pay through the CMS). If you pay via a family-based arrangement, then it is mutually negotiable.
Catfish 18 Jan 2017
My childs mum keeps sending me copies of afterschool club yet she is the one who moved away. Before I used to pick the child up from school and take her to her mums after she was done with work. Am I liable for thoes bills and or is maintainance meant to look after the child. Confused as at present please help
Ss888 11 Jan 2017
My husband and I have separated. I have no family here and would like to move home which is a 3 hour drive away with my 2 year old where I think we could have a better life and I would like to do further study there with support of family. I asked for his approval, suggested mediation so we could put plans in place as it is important to me that he maintains a good relationship with his father and I asked that because I will be working 5 days a week if we could each have our son every other weekend. He refused mediation and said that he has a solicitor and will be trying for every weekend but that would mean I won't get any quality time with our son if he gets it and that would mean he is travelling 6 hours over each weekend to be with his father. I just feel so trapped and lonely here but petrified that if I move I lose my son. Will the courts grant him every weekend?
AJ Editor 11 Jan 2017
@soooo - if you leave before the court case, the court could issue a summons to bring you and your child back. You have to be very careful. If you want to leave the country and go back home to live you are best applying to the court directly.
sooooo 10 Jan 2017
hi i have a question if can be accuse of abduction if i go back to my country with my son ? the father is not register in the birth certificate but i let my son over the weekend lots for me to be able to work.. My son has describe abuse from his dad so i stop the access and now the father try to have access and sent me to court , i have a court case very soon, can i leave and not be prosecuted ?
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Jan 2017
If your ex is threatening to move, you can also apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. Therefore, you may wish to seek legal advice.
hk1815 4 Jan 2017
Hi, my ex and I split before our child was born. Despite repeated assertions that I was still committed to the kid, she didn't tell me he had been born, and registered him before we had even met. I'm now applying for a declaration of parentage and PR, but can she move away in the meantime? If she does, what are my rights? Can PR work retroactively? Thanks for any help.
Pleasehelp 27 Nov 2016
I've been split from my child's father since she was 2 month old. He beat me up, once. He remains to this day aggressive and volatile towards me. I've stressed to him continously that this is unhealthy for our child. He sees her once a week and can never keep to his schedule. I started a new relationship at the beginning of the year however my ex caused alot of trouble for us. My partner is a U.S citizen and has moved there, got a job, a house and everything we need to build a fantastic life. My ex will never consent to it, we were never married but he is named on the birth certificate. This life we are being offered is without a doubt thee best life for my child and myself. I'm terrified that I will be denied the right to relocate, it breaks my heart to think there is nothing I can do to get away from this man. He is ruining my life, I would never stop my child seeing her father and would arrange visits to the UK twice a year, I will pay the flights. I just want to be allowed to move on, with my fiance and my child. Please help me here as I am just destroyed at the moment. I need some good news please. Do I stand a chance?
Act 3 Nov 2016
Hi my husband is in the forces and yet again we need to move house, i got 4 children which 3 of them are my exhusbands. We will be moving almost 3hrs drive away from where my ex husband lives. He doesn't know yet we will be moving as its few months away yet. At the minute he sees children every other weekend and only pays on weeks when he sees them. He refuses to collect and drop off children saying we should split it in half(we live 1hour from each other), I would happily do that if he would pay regular maintenance. My question is can he possibly stop me from moving house?
Thommo 1 Nov 2016
Hi, My girlfriend is currently pregnant with our first child. She is from Ireland and moved over here 2 1/2 yrs ago. She has struggled with the pregnancy from the early stages with hyperemesis gravidarum and recently become more depressed, stating she wishes to move back to Ireland as that is where her family is. We live together in the UK and i have a job that I am unable to move away from or transfer, nor do I wish to. I also have no wish to move to Ireland. I'm led to believe I can stop her moving back to Ireland without my consent on the birth of the child, is this true and what other rights do I have to ensure that I do not lose access to my first born?
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Oct 2016
Your ex is unlikely to have a case if you wish to move an hour away from where you are currently living, as this is unlikley to significantly disrupt his access to your child. You may wish to seek legal advice regarding this, and what the repercussions may be if you move without his consent (if he has parental responsibility). However, even if he is allowed to apply to court, it is highly unlikely a court would rule to bring you back once you were established. Moving to the other end of the country or abroad may significantly hamper his access, but not an hour away.
Rhianne 24 Oct 2016
Me and my ex have recently separated his is now living with his new partner and I thinking about moving an hour away from where I am now as he and his partner live 3 doors down and it's very difficult for me to do anything with out them getting involved I have job opportunities there's and it's just the fresh start I need to provide a better life for my 3 yr old he will still have access every week end to see his son it's just I don't no how to go about this as he keeps threatening me with going to court I still want him to see him just as much as me I just can't bear being here any longer please help
SeparatedDads Editor 29 Sep 2016
Questions such as this are always impossible to answer because every family deals with separation in different ways, whether it's the adults or children and it often takes time for the new dynamic to adjust. Of course your kids are likely to miss you and just as much you them. It is easy to visualise what it may be like from the perspective of being inside the family, but I'm afraid this is no match from the reality of the situation and the fact you will be a considerable drive away from your kids and you will not have the day-to-day contact which makes most fathers feel suddenly emotionally distanced from their children's lives. Much also depends upon the love and security they will feel from your wife, once you leave. Our forum may be better able to help here, as you will get the advice of other fathers who have been through the same situation. I will also put a version of your comment on our Separated Dads Facebook page, as our other dads will help put this into perspective. Please refer to the page for answers. I hope this helps.
Danno 28 Sep 2016
I am from the UK and I moved up north 3 hours away with my wife and 2 kids as we we're having marriage problems and needed to get away closer to her family. Since then our marriage has not improved and I am missing my family and old job and dance and acting school I was involved in. Here where we live now my wife and myself just don't act like a married couple. More like friends and I am fed up being the one who does the cooking and housework etc as she is lazy. So many say we should break up and I was wondering if I moved back down south 3 hours away near my family and kids stay with her how will life be? Will be nice the kids not seeing us argue no more etc but what would they think of me being 3 hours away. They are aged 2 and 5.
Bobby 21 Sep 2016
My partner and I have recently split and he has takeen a new job and moved 30 miles away we live in Cornwall however I have no close family and my parents and siblings live in wick in the family home and I would like to return. His parents are threatening to try for full custody and if that doesn't work they are going to pay for him to try for full custody. They do not yet know that he was violent while I was pregnant but stupidly I did not think it would come to this all the proof I have is a witnesses to the brushing and the lodger hearing the argument. I have no problem with them having a relationship with our son and come and visit. I would just like to know where I stand and if I am possibly going to lose my son.
SD 17 Sep 2016
Hi I live in south England and the mother of my children has decided in the space of a few days to move to Scotland and take my boys with her. She has stated she's in the middle of a breakdown so i feel the move is an irrational act not fully thought through. Obviously i don't want my boys 500 miles away as I see them regularly but also I don't want to bug their mother too much as she is the type to prevent access on a whim. Any advice would be great
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Sep 2016
If you want to return to NI, then if he has parental responsibility you would have to request his consent before you made any move. If your partner refuses then the next option would be to take the matter to court and the court will decide what it thinks is in your children's best interests. There are parents that move away without requesting consent, however this can be classed as abduction. Therefore, you have to be careful. I suggest you seek legal advice.
Kary 15 Sep 2016
My home situation with my partner is extremely difficult. I'm not going to get into the details but my three year old daughter and 2 month old son are being subjected to nightly shouting matches and no matter how many times I ask my partner to calm down and wait till they're asleep to discuss things, he continues to shout verbal abuse. He let out a torrent of swear words at me purposely with our daughter standing beside him and I've reached my limit. My question is, we live in Scotland but I have no family, job or friends here as all my family are in Northern Ireland, would it be possible for me to move myself and our children to Northern Ireland and discuss custody from there? I have no qualms about him seeing our children anytime he wants and would be completely fine with him visiting anytime he wants and even staying with us for short periods of time if he so desires. If I'm not contesting contact then surely as their primary carer and with him having a full time job I should be granted temporary custody at least until permanent custody was sorted out?
Marky 31 Aug 2016
Hi, I am having huge problems getting to see my children. My ex is being very awkward and has now moved house without providing me with a forwarding address. I have now ceased maintenance payments because of this. Can you give me some advice what to do. The maintenance agreement was done via a court order so I will now be in contempt of court, which will obviously make things worse. HELP!
Thi 26 Aug 2016
I am going through a divorce (decree nisi issued) and my ex wife has the custody of my 6 year old son. I have a new partner whom I would like to move in with. She is in another European country. I remain providing through child maintenance but I am aware that moving abroad will reduce my contact with my son. She has been making his mind over the last few months and he seems be distancing himself from me more and more. Our relationship is the worst possible. She has threatened to leave the country before. Is there anything she can do to stop me from moving to another country?
Pete 1 Aug 2016
I recently separated, and in the middle of an undisputed divorce. I currently live 30 miles away from my children. My wife cannot bear contact with me and get very upset. I didn't do anything wrong- she wanted more from me, something is difficult to give to someone so moody. Anyway we live in the southeast and she is secretly planning to move to Scotland with my two children Girl 6 and boy twelve - to get away from any contact with me. She is taking her mum and dad with her, both of whom are not in the best of health and wont live that long - sadly the grandfather has COPD. I'm very close to them both and don't see how it can work if she moves 500 or more miles away. I know you will say get a PSO, but my question is: long term is it likely she will be able to do it. I think she is trying to build a case that they are not safe with me. i.e. I can never see them. I don't see how she will make that stick- but I don't have any money to fight something like that.
Noemz 6 Jul 2016
Hi I moved to Norway about 5 months living in there and have to go back to Uk to safeguard my son from harm and maltreatment from his dad. My x have the residence order , social worker and police is involved about my x parental care. To make story short , ive got my son back in my care have to go back to court to get my residence order and i have been but my x did not attend. Judge have issued Prohibited steps order to my x husband that he cannot remove my son from my care. Secondly , he says in the order that my son is a citizen of England it is a criminal offense to take him out of the country. We are due to go back to court again as my x did not attend . Im stuck in England , i have started my life in norway and i have a fiancee there. Is there a chance to change that second order that I can take him abroad? What shall i say to the judge on the next hearing? My x had said to my sons social worker hes got nothing to do with my son anymore. Is this my chance? By the way, my x is charged of an assault to my son and is on police bail conditions. Pls im desperate my son loves the idea to go live with me in Norway he said he feels more safe there but im stuck with this second order that i cannot take him out. Pls help
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Jun 2016
If you have parental responsibility of your child then the mother should have asked for your consent. However, it may be difficult to address this now your ex has moved. Prior to the move you could have applied for a Prohibited Steps Order through the court, although there is no guarantee you would have been awarded this as the court would have made a decision based upon what it thought was in the best interests of your child. While you may also now be able to apply to take the matter to court, I would advise you seek legal advice to see whether it was worth your while given your ex has not moved very far away.
Steve 21 Jun 2016
If the mother move the child from Kent into the London Borough is there nothing I can do?
SeparatedDads Editor 16 Jun 2016
If you have parental responsibility and think your partner may leave the country with your children and not return, then you can apply through the courts for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. We have all heard the stories of a parent taking their child for the weekend and not returning them or going abroad with them and it becoming extremely difficult for the other parent to get their child back. Thankfully, this is one of the scenarios that a PSO seeks to prevent. Therefore, I suggest you seek legal advice in order to explore your options. If your ex takes your children out of the country to live without your consent (and you have PR), then this will be classed as abduction.
Dk 15 Jun 2016
Me and my partner have a 3 month old baby girl. I'm Irish and she is Australian with an ancestor visa. We both live in London. She wants to go to Australia to visit her family but I've seen correspondence from her mum saying come home and don't go back to the UK. We have been having trouble with our relationship rececently as I've 2 other kidside in Ireland. Advice if possible
Scf131492 10 Jun 2016
Hi. I'm just after a bit of advice for a friend please, he lives in the UK in Wales and his partner (not married) has taken their 4 month old baby down on what was supposed to be a short visit to see family in London. She is saying now she isn't coming back and she is keeping the baby there, please could someone tell me what to advise him to do please. Thank you in advice
SeparatedDads Editor 10 Jun 2016
I'm afraid we cannot answer this as we are a UK-based site with knowledge only of UK law. However, you are doing the correct thing by taking this matter further.
manee 9 Jun 2016
Hi guys, To keep my ordeal short. My ex disappeared to the US while we were still battling access in court regarding my 2 daughters aged 5 and 1. The social worker in charge was aware she has been going to the US embassy but did not inform and further helped her with flight fare. As painful as that was, the US embassy issued an emergency passports for my kids and waved my parental right. As weird as all this sound, I am also confused as to the best actions to take and if I am ever going to see my kids . please your kind advice will be much appreciated. p.s: I will be going to the high court to start the battle . I have also contacted the US authorities who are dealing with it too
SeparatedDads Editor 1 Jun 2016
Your son can apply throught he court for a contact order to see his daughter and at the same time fill in a C4 form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. This means the courts can put a trace on the child in order to allow your son to apply for contact. If his ex does not wish for the address to be disclosed, then she can ask the courts that it remains confidential, but it will allow your son to bring the matter to court and hopefully regain access to his daughter. If your son has Parental Responsibility then his ex should have asked for his consent to move away which means the court 'may' (dependent upon circumstances) be able to force his ex to return. Therefore, the sooner your son puts his application into action, the better it will be to try and resolve the situation. I hope this helps.
Liz 31 May 2016
My son X had just moved to somewhere no one knows he has a daughter which just about to turn 10 my son has had daily contact with his daughter he does not stay in same house but has done for his daughter in the past his X has many mental health issues the mum takes her to school in the morning and my son picks her up at the school every day most days my son would stopped at my house to have supper play time then Hooke by 6 for her to do homework the child stayed and grandmothers house every weekend with the mothers knowing as with her mental condition she can't cope with the child. The mother has internet contact with men and has even went as far as she was about to go with a man abroad only with what he said to her on Internet she is always says she meet someone and in love she brainwashes her daughter till she doesn't know what true or fault there's loads more I can tell you we are very worried as my son and myself had daily contact and knew we were keeping her safe as best we could but now she has taken away all my son family and her own family say the same that child was safe as long as her dad and family was there for her we have contacted police etc only been told she safe but we feel that she can fool all the ppl and she can be very belivible we are so worried for the child shafts hope you can help
Didi78 27 May 2016
Hi There I am a divorced father of two boys aged 6 and 3. I have PR for both children and currently see my boys 2 to 3 nights a week as well as taking to school/nursery one or twice a week. I play an active role in their lives and schooling, and have a very strong bond with them. My ex has recently been made redundant is selling the family home and has decided to move 3 hours away. She doesn't have any real reason to move where she is planning to as she is going to live off her redundancy and the sale of her property in London for the initial period. She isn't even moving there for another partner, it is close to her mum and has a very good school ideal for my eldest. She is arguing this is in the best interest of the children and she won't have to work and can spend all her times with them. My relationship with the boys will be impacted, and my contact reduced to every other weekend and school holidays. I am absolutely devastated as she has no reason to move that far away, especially in light of the closeness of my relationship with them. I am trying to mediate with her but have told her that I will impose a PSO if she doesn't get my consent, especially as she planned the sale of the house without my consent (found out through my son) and has brainwashed the children into accepting they are going to be moving there and will have a dog, garden and trampoline. I truly believe being far from me is not in their best interest, and educational options are available everywhere. Do you know of any court cases where a judge has imposed a PSO based on a move away from their dad would not be in the best interest of the children?
SeparatedDads Editor 26 May 2016
A mediator may be the best way forward, please see link: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here as any agreement arrived at will be overseen and authorised through the courts. However, please not that while mediation is authorised through the courts, it is not official and an agreement can still be reneged upon. Court is seen as a last resort if mediation breaks down and you cannot reach an agreement. So you may wish to bear in mind that if you can't agree a resolution between you, then you may wish to look into talking the matter further. If the matter goes to court, what the courts decide will be official and your ex will have to adhere to it, otherwise she will be in breach of the order. You have my sympathy as all of this is a tricky process to navigate, and unfortunately the term 'fair' can go out of the window if your ex wishes to be awkward. Mediation is a good option, but you both have to come to the table with compromise in mind in order for it to work. The main objective for anyone in this process, especially the courts, is what is in the best interests not of the parents, but of your child.
CHDad1978 25 May 2016
I live in Scotland, but when my wife and I separated she moved to North Lincolnshire with my son, now 6, to be nearer her family. We had an informal agreement in place that I could see my son whenever I wanted as long as it did not impact his schooling and my ex did not already have plans. Given the distance (c. 5hrs drive each way) its not practical or economical to have my son regularly so I have asked for 3 weeks over summer holidays, 1 week over Easter holidays and alternate half terms and Christmas. My son spent Christmas & New Year with my ex last year and I then said its my turn this year but she is now saying she wants to use a mediator or solicitor to negotiate contact. Its only fair I get to see him during school holidays - any advice you can offer is appreciated
Gordon 18 May 2016
It was mention to me that my ex partner wanted to move my son from his current school over a year ago I had said I did not agree with him moving to the then mentioned school. which did not take place. since then unknown to me the school has been liaising with her to find him another school. he has been statmented but largely the statement has been based on what she has said to health professionals and a lot of how he was brought up in his first 4 years has been left out due to his mother dishonesty. we had gone through hell with her older children and social services. and in the end we separated. both heavily depressed. she used physio and speech therapy to bring our son on claiming she had tried everything to bring him on, and having had a medical carrier anther son with special needs she was able to do this but now she has used her experiences in to misleading them in to thinking my son has asd, rather then being honest about not having it in her to bring him on adequately. yes I am as much to blame, I should have pushed for custody, but I felt bad about taking him from his mum. how do I put right what is wrong , challenge his asd statement with a second assessment, show that he has got similar traits to someone with asd but only because his parents were so depressed that they might as well of been catatonic, and his mother has used her 10 years plus knowledge of working at Slatington hospital Staffordshire and at times I feel deliberately not brought him on not held the expectation of a parent that wanted there child to be independent later in life, what processes can I put in play to shw this is the case, I feel such a foul for not bring it all into question soon.
SeparatedDads Editor 28 Apr 2016
In addition, regardless of whether she moves away if you apply for a Prohibited Steps Order and you were refused, a contact order would be negotiated and you would still be allowed contact. Just make sure you do as much research as possible with regards to your options and how you could work around it, some legal advice will help in the first instance.
SeparatedDads Editor 28 Apr 2016
If you feel the move is not in your child's best interests you can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. We have all heard the stories of a parent taking their child for the weekend and not returning them or going abroad with them and it becoming extremely difficult for the other parent to get their child back. This can also apply to areas within the UK. There is no guarantee that you will be able to stop the move, but if you have safeguarding issues you may wish to seek some legal advice.
Concerned father 28 Apr 2016
In response to the safeguarding places I ment what I could have in seeing my daughter still be I do have contact order as I said
Concerned father 28 Apr 2016
I live in Wales and see my daughter in contact order 4 hrs a day two days a week and now have high chances she moving to England and I was just wondering what safe guarding places could I have
Curt 15 Apr 2016
Hi there. My ex is planning to move my 4 year old son from England to Scotland as she says she cannot afford to live in England anymore and get a flat there. We have a very uncomfortable relationship and I'm so angry and upset she is doing this. She has already been offered a job there and has lots of family there. Where do I stand? Can I stop her? Any comments much appreciated. Cheers.
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Apr 2016
As you have PR, you can undertake to try to stop your ex from taking your children by applying for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. If your ex decides to take the children away without your consent then this is classed as abduction. Please see link: What is Abduction? here. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Apr 2016
I am very sorry to hear this, and it difficult for me to advise because we only have knowledge on UK family law, not international. Of course, the answer would be to engage a solicitor to follow the matter up, however this will cost. With the advent of social media it has become much easier to be able to trace people. If you know the country where your child may be located, a consular officer from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate in that country can work with government officials in that country to try to locate your child. for more information. You may also wish to try our Separated Dads forum as the dads on there are great at giving emotional support and advice. I can only suggest you keep your eye on the long term, I know it is difficult when you miss your daughter on a daily basis, but your child is not going to stay young forever and at some point she is going to want to know who her father is. I hope this helps.
Soontobe 14 Apr 2016
Hello, I am soon to be a separated dad but I am still married. I have two children 18 month and 4 yr and live in the UK. I have shared parental responsibility. My wife is from overseas (although lived here for the last 10years) and has planned a trip with the children to her home country. She has told me she is not returning with the children. I am invited to join them on the flight. I now fear I will not see my children again. Hearing everyone's stories is heartbreaking to think this is the path I am about to embark! Thank you
J k 13 Apr 2016
My children were taken to brisbane 8years sgo after my then partner and I seperated she met an Australian and two years later married him here in Scotland then moved to oz taking my 9year old 4year old &2year old with them and I've had no contact since even though I've tried they have just been back here for three weeks and still no çontact then yesterday a messsge to say I could see the boys but not to tell them I'm their father I am furious now they are away back help !!!
SeparatedDads Editor 13 Apr 2016
If you are against the move then you would have to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. There is no guarantee this would be awarded to you and you would have to specify why you think the move is not in the best interests of your child and your ex why she thinks it is. I hope this helps.
Multijay 12 Apr 2016
Hi my name's Jay from stockport in Greater Manchester My ex is planning on moving to Worcester with my 7 year old daughter to be closer to her mum. I don't like saying this but unfortunately her mum has been diagnosed with cancer. Thing is I don't think she's thinking of implications of when her mum I,m sorry to say actually passes . I don't mean to sound horrible. But I,m very close to my daughter and see her 3 days a week, she has grandparents and has 5 brothers and 2 sisters ( 1 of which is moving with her ) living up here. Need some advice on where I stand and what (if anything) I can do ! Changing school and moving away from family friends and siblings isn't the best thing for my daughter ? I know it's not a million miles away but feel it's unfair and unjust. I've been told my daughter is excited about moving to a new area but it's like buying a new vacuum ! You want to use it for the first 2 days !!!!!!!
SeparatedDads Editor 11 Apr 2016
If your ex has Parental Responsibility then you legally have to ask for his consent to move out of the area. If he does not give his consent, then you would have to apply to the court for a Specific Issue Order and prove to the courts why it is in your daughter's best interests to move out of the area.
Samantha 9 Apr 2016
I have a 4 and half year old daughter I have spilt up from my husband 4-half months ago and looking to move from Brighton to Blackpool I am not stopping him see he daughter just said it has to be in school holidays can he stop me from moving away
Sam 9 Apr 2016
I have a 4 year old daughter and I have spilt up with my husband 4-half months ago and want to move away Brighton to Lewes I have not stopped him seeing her just said it will have to be every 6 weeks in school holiday can I move and can he stop me from moving
Derbyshiredad 8 Apr 2016
My son has just told me that his mum is looking to move to the north of Scotland. He is upset as he knows contact will be very difficult as its 8/9 hour drive. I would like to know can she up sticks and take him if I do not consent? We divorced 6 years ago and I still pay towards the mortgage of the former marital home and pay maintenance. I have legal agreement to have him 3 day including 1 night per week. If they were to move access realistically would be 3 to 4 times a year at best. Regardless of the fact I could be free of the mortgage and finally get my equity back, that would mean nothing if I can't see my son every week. Please help, i know my son does not want to feel like he has to chose and I know he would not go against her wishes as she manipulates him. I want to support him but I don't feel I can't just let him go either!
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Apr 2016
If you have Parental Responsibility you can apply through the courts for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. You would have to prove why staying in the area would be in your child's best interets, your ex would have to try and prove why it would be beneficial for your child to move. Therefore, it doesn't mean you will be granted the article that would be up to the court to decide. I hope this helps.
Saddad 6 Apr 2016
Hi my ex is moving away to another city I have had a contact with my child consistently every weekend for 8 years we have also shared school holidays alternate birthdays and Christmases aswell as both being involved with school activities this move will isolate myself from all school contact aswell as disrupting my child's school life and social bonds which are well established. the access my child has with myself and the extended family such as grandparents etc will also be effected what options do I have?
Carycanary 25 Mar 2016
Just a quick divorce question. I'm currently going through divorce proceedings against my wife after she committed adultery with my best friend. She has admitted to this and is accepting the divorce. We have 2 young babies and am year old that is not mine but has my surname via depot. However can I demand my wife to change her name back to her maiden name?
SeparatedDads Editor 24 Mar 2016
The father can apply take the matter to court, yes. However, it doesn not mean he will be succesful in the result. If your daughter wishes to move only an hours drive away, the father would have to prove why the move was not in the best interests of the children, whereas your daughter would have to prove why it was. If his access is liable not to change, then it is unlikely he will have much of a case.
mumsy 23 Mar 2016
My Daughter has 2 Sons by ex partner she was'nt married to him. Boys are 12 n 8 they see their Father every two weeks n one day in the week sometimes. My Daughter wants to move an hours drive away but Boys Father wants to take her to Court to stop the move, can he do this n can my Daughter move she said he can still have boys every two weeks still????
Ella 17 Mar 2016
My husband's ex wife wants to emigrate to the US with her new partner and daughter. Considering that she has quite an appetite for our money and been trying to get more and more than it's reasonable we had to use Child Maintanance Service to get to some conclusion. We are afraid that when she moves abroad she may want to use the American child maintenance system. Would the Child Maintenance Service's decision be sufficient to make sure that all stay under the British legal system when it comes to child maintenance?
SeparatedDads Editor 17 Mar 2016
You can try and stop her, by applying for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. However, this is generally only taken out if the father has not officially been informed of the move and is worried the primary carer may leave without consent and generally either out of the country, or far enough away for it to be an issue with regards to access. By the very fact you and your ex have a good relationship, it would be a shame to possibly damage the relationship by taking the matter to either mediation or court. Plus, as specified in the article, your ex isn’t legally obliged to live near you. I suggest talking to her directly and telling her of your concerns, if you have a good relationship then she will do all she can to maintain the children stay firmly in your life and you will both be able to work around it in the best way you can. Mediation may also be an option, but I imagine you will be able to resolve this issue rationally and amicably by yourselves.
SeparatedDads Editor 16 Mar 2016
I am very sorry to hear this. You would have to speak to an international family law solicitor in order to seek advice regarding your options.
nateb 16 Mar 2016
Hi guys, looking for any advice possible much appreciated, my ex moved from Ireland to Germany without telling me whilst she was pregnant, has cut all contact with me and is refusing any access or mediation, I don't know where she is exactly in germany, my name isn't on the birth cert (we weren't together for very long) and I have never seen my now 6 montyh old son, I live in Ireland but have british passport......any ideas how or where I can go about getting access?????
Brad 13 Mar 2016
Ive been split from.my ex for 4yrs.wevhave 17yr old daughter and 5yr old son.i have josh 4 nights in week( every week) after school til7.30/8 and alternatec weekends.my son has told me that hes moving hose(30miles away) school etc.i was fuming.obviously things havent been pleasant between us.shes now deleted me off all her contacts as i did contact her a lot about it(normal id say)now she is getting an harrassment order against me and refusing to give me any details about when shes moving.what school.he will be in Whis gna beblooking after him when shes in work etc.to say im gutted is an understatement.i will prob only get to see him every other weekend now because of distance.people suggest mediation but ive been told by police not to contact her.HELP one desperate dad her
worried partner 11 Mar 2016
Greetings i am a South African who is seeking advice. My partner's ex just told my partner that she wants to leave with their son to go to another province/state, they don't have a joint custody and they have been separated for more than 2 years... my stepson visits my partner every weekend and on holidays. What can he do legally to change what hes experiencing.
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Mar 2016
You always have the option to take the matter to court to let the court decide. The court will generally try to be fair in matters such as this, especially if you specify your consent to her moving away was based on her promises that access would be sustained and your ex would contribute to the transport (the solicitor's agreement will verify this). A court order would mean she would have to uphold her side of the agreement and to do otherwise would be considered a breach and contempt of court. You may wish to send a solicitor's letter first of all stating that if she does not stick to the agreement, then you will take the matter to court, this action alone may jolt her back into action.
James Hamilton 7 Mar 2016
Hi I have been separated from my sons mother for over 5years. We had a written agreement through lawyers that I would get access to my son on a Friday afternoon till the Sunday afternoon. As it wasn't a pretty breakup it was decided that I would pick my son up from my ex's mothers house (middle distance for both of us) This was the deal for more than 5 years and it worked fine. She dropped the bombshell that she wanted to move away. I was promised that it would not effect me seeing my son and the was the case for 6months but now she can't be bothered with the commute to her mother's house to drop my son off and had said I now have to go to her house to pick up my son. As the agreement was made through lawyers do I have any say or have I just to bite the bullet and travel the extra distance to get my son?
SeparatedDads Editor 2 Mar 2016
You can apply through the courts for a Prohibited Steps Order or a Specific Issue Order, as your solicitor may have explained. However, there is no guarantee you will be awarded this - but either Mediation (or Cafcass if it goes to court) will work with you to try and reach and agreement that suits you both. Likewise, sometimes a mother will be prevented from moving ouit of the area if the courts do not think it is in the best interests of your child.
matty 1 Mar 2016
Hi im seeking advise on my ex wife wanting to move away with my 5yr old son!weve been split for just over a year (her choice) and had our son while married so have parental responsibility. I have my son generally on a wednesday eve and drop to school on a thursday morning and stays saturday night and sunday day till 5.She dropped the bombshell on me a few months before christmas saying she wants to move back to mid wales to be closer to family as thats where shes from originally!my son was born in cardiff and has my family here and is settled and doing well in school,she says shes willing to meet every other weekend but i feel this will certainly have some detremental effects on our relationship which at the moment is very strong...so apart from seeing my son 50% less than i already do (which 8 days a month is not the original plan i wanted but went along with it due to schooling)i am going to have the extra expense of commuting and time elements to deal with!!!I have consulted with a solicitor and dont feel like i have any say in matters but as a last ditch attempt was wondering if there is any legal way i could stop the move without having to apply for residence as dont think i have much of a case with that for obvious reasons with my son already living with his mum!
SeparatedDads Editor 1 Mar 2016
I'm afraid this is impossible to predict. The court will always decide what it thinks is in the best interests of your child.
Chels 29 Feb 2016
Hi I want to move to Cambridge with my son (10 months old) to be with my new partner . But the ex (child's father) is not allowing this and wants to take me to court . He doesn't pay child maintainance and has mental health issues what are the chances the court will support him ?
SeparatedDads Editor 29 Feb 2016
It is unlikely that the courts would remove your child from you, the resident parent unless it was absolutely necessary. The court will always judge what is in the best interests of the child and a minimum amount of change and routine upset is of the utmost importance. If your ex has PR and he consented to the move, then he would have little recourse.
nicol 28 Feb 2016
I moved 65 miles away from my ex husband with my daughter who is 10 and she is very happily settled and made great friendships in our new town. My ex is finding just over an hour driving extremely far and trying to take me to court for a full custody what are the chances that the law would support him ?
Eimi 20 Feb 2016
Hi I want to move from Scotland to Leeds with my daughter in hope to take up a job as a Deputy Nursery Manager my daughter can attend work with me as we have close relationship I have family that live there and close by who she's familiar with she's only just started seeing Her Dad again for couple of hours on a Saturday how will this work?
SeparatedDads Editor 29 Jan 2016
If you are named as the father, then your ex is entitled to claim child maintenance from you. If your ex is refusing to have the test, then you would have to take the matter to court to request you ex has the test. You would be eligible to pay child maintenance until the test results proved paternity one way or another.
Creech 29 Jan 2016
My ex wife is asking me to start paying maintenance for our two children. Although I have a belief that our 9 week old baby is not mine, even though I am the only one that signed the birth certificate. She is also refusing to prove the baby is mine by means of a dna test. She states that I should pay for it. After having to start all over from scratch by sorting a new home etc after her admitting adultery, it has all had a detrimental affect on finances, so simply can't afford such a test. Whereas she is sitting very comfortable by claiming every benefit possible. I know by some bizarre law she has more rights over the children than I do, but she is refusing to let me have them for than two nights a week as it would affect her benefits. Can I refuse to pay the csa if i believe a child is not mine?
SeparatedDads Editor 19 Jan 2016
The actual ‘process’ of getting divorced is in fact, quite simple. It is the legal wrangling regarding things like one partner not wanting a divorce, dividing assets, who gets the children etc. which often make divorces drag on for months and sometimes years and then it can become costly. You should remember that all the time your lawyer spends on your case costs you money. If you are upset about something that your spouse has done, or just want to offload on someone, the clock starts ticking as soon as your lawyer picks up the phone or starts reading your email. Solicitors generally charge an hourly rate for their services. This amount will be subject to VAT at the prevailing rate, but will not include court fees, any fees payable for experts reports, and for "disbursements", which are essentially expenses incurred by solicitors for photocopying, telephone calls, postage etc. However, there are ways in which you can reduce the costs of your solicitor’s bill. Try to keep your paperwork in order, and undertake as much of the research and information-gathering required for the divorce proceedings as you can. If you have the paperwork relating to your assets at hand, your solicitor will not have to write letters to obtain these themselves. Each letter your lawyer writes may cost you £30, so you can see how quickly the costs could add up. Despite your wife's actions, if you are able to agree to divide your assets amicably, do so. However, if your divorce is hostile and difficult to resolve, or if your lawyer has to draw up a list of all your shared property, this is going to cost you yet more money and the only person benefitting from this is your lawyer. I hope this helps.
Carycanary 18 Jan 2016
I've been trying to find advice in regards to filing for a divorce after my wife admitted to committing adultery. It appears to cost for a divorce is about £410. This could even increase if I name and shame my so called best friend to whom she was sleeping with for a whole year behind my back and pregnant with our third child. Surely they be paging the costs as they are the ones that have done wrong? It seems strange that I'm the one that has lost everything and I then have to pay financially to confirm it! Any advice...
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Jan 2016
It is up to your ex if she wishes your children to have contact with her new partner. If your ex disagrees with your opinion and refuses mediation in order to sort out the issue, your only option would be to take it to court and apply for a Specific Issue Order. Specific Issue Orders, much like the name suggests, are orders sought from the family court to determine a particular matter in connection with the exercise of Parental Responsibility. These orders can cover a wide range of issues that you and your ex-partner cannot agree on, such as preventing someone from having contact with your child. However, unless you can give/prove a valid reason for not allowing your ex's partner to have contact with your children, then the order may not be granted. If no charges were ever made against this man, then this may reduce your chances of success.
Carycanary 5 Jan 2016
Hi my wife admitted she has been cheating on me for a year with a man who I know has been violent to a couple of his previous experience wives. We are month old daughter (a dna test will be done to determine that she is mine), a 14 month old son and a 7 year old daughter. Obviously I'm I'm broken as they have lied to everyone over the last year. I now have to set up on.my own and agree a contract of shared care etc. But where do I stand in making sure this man does not see my children? I only have the say from his ex wife about his violence as his ex's were to scared to press charges. I really do not want a man like him having anything to do with my children...
kev 27 Nov 2015
Hi my daughters moving in 2 weeks with her mum to another part of country my daughter is just started academy . Her mum has 2 other kids 1 in care and the other lives with her dad. My daughters mum Is moving to be with her new partner whom I just out prison for attempt murder and us a total rocket. I have full rights etc.. Can I stop the move to keep my daughter in same town as her friends and my family as I am totaly worried about her safety and well beign
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Nov 2015
You could apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. If you cannot afford legal fees, then you can self-litigate, please see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, here. Many fathers are doing this, with success. The Bar Council also has provided a guidance leaflethere, which is very useful. You may also find our Separated Dads Facebook page useful as it can offer some great advice.
kev 4 Nov 2015
Hi I broke up with my wife a few years ago now and since then I have had regular access to my 2 little boys and my step son who I still have. I have just found out she is relocating about 2 and a half hours away, she was trying to keep this from me but my eldest told me. Now when I say regular contact I have my boys 14 nights a month and have done from pretty much the start of our break up. I need some advice as all the money I have is plumbed into my private rented flat just so that I can have them as much as I do. Where do I stand as I feel moving these boys from their schools and all their friends and family and their dad will throw their little lives in to chaos. I can't afford courts and legal aid has gone now I am at my wits end. Any help would be appreciated
SeparatedDads Editor 2 Oct 2015
Your ex will firstly have to get your consent, if she does this without gaining your consent, then she could be brought back by the courts. If you fear she may do this, then I can only suggest you apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. It will then be up to the courts to decide what it thinks is in the best interests of your son. I hope this helps.
winni3004 1 Oct 2015
My wife suddenly said she is leaving me and moving to her dads address which is 2 and half hours away by train then another 15 mins by car to Doncaster and she is taking our 3 yr old boy with her, my boy is currently in nursery and has many friends and is going to school next year, my boy has his 99% of his family here in Blackburn, grandparents , uncles, aunties, cousins and all my wifes family which is quite large which he sees quite frequently, the only person who lives away is my wife's father who only comes down once a month due to finances, this cannot be in the best interest of my son , his life will be thrown in to chaos just because my wife wants to be with her father, plus my wife told me yesterday that a ex colleague at her former work said she will pay for her to set up a new house ie rent deposit so she can get a new property closer to home so that I can have regular access to my child instead of being nealy 3 hours away, any advice would help
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Sep 2015
I can only suggest he gets some legal advice, if she doesn't return. You could also contact her family etc, to see if she has turned up there. The only other alternative would be to apply through the courts via a C4 form, which is an application to the court for an order for the disclosure of a child's whereabouts. While the courts may not divulge the address, if she wanted to keep it confidential, it would allow your brother to pursue contact and access to his children through the courts. Also, if your brother has a child residency order, then the police may be able to bring his children back. If there is a chance his ex has left the country, this could be classed as abduction. Hopefully, over the next few days it will become clearer where she has gone.
Bigt100349 24 Sep 2015
I'm not sure if this is the right thread but I'm in desperate need of advice regarding my brother's ex leaving with his children. It happened today on his way to pick up the youngest who isn't yet in school, my brother discovered his ex at the bus stop with both children. She refused to let him have them and accidently sent him a text meant for someone else stating she had just done the biggest blag ever and some other things implying she's not coming back. She won't answer her phone and I'm now stuck as what to do. I can't track her phone without her consentband a pi works by surveillance as we don't know where she is this doesn't help. What should I do now??
charlotte_28 22 Sep 2015
Hi, My sons father and i split up last november as he was very controlling and manipulative. we have a beautiful son who is 3 years old. My sons father is now in a healthy relationship as am i. i have announced that i am moving in with my partner which is 54 minutes from where my sons father lives. we had an agreement in place where he was to have contact with our son tues,thurs and saturdays but was sent to work away in london 4 months ago to which he now has contact once a fortnight because of this. this works well and i have put my son in full time day nursery as i am doing my degree at university. since announcing the move i have received a letter from his solicitor stating i reconsider my wishes and he does not want me to move due to reasons such as his current day nursery, maternal and paternal family. i have reassured him i shall meet him half way and our son will have contact with all members of family and ontact with him will not change and if he wishes he can pick harry up from nursery and take him for tea and contact with his friends at the nursery he is currently in will still happen. we attended our first mediation session yesterday and after two hours he refused further mediation and has requested courts on the grounds of me not moving. i plan to move out on the 26/10. Am i still able to move even though all this is happening? it hasn't quite reached courts yet but i am concerned if i move before it does it may look bad on me. i want to move because i want to settle myself and my son and for financial reasons and get away from all of this stress so my son and i can continue with our lives stress free with of course contact with his father on his days.
Eell 14 Sep 2015
I want to move 2 hours drive away from my son's father. I want to move for better job prospects to further my own career and to be with my partner who already lives there. We have a contact order already which states Thursday to Saturday each week and half the school holidays. If we move away, over night stays on school nights will no longer be possible. I know he will fight me all the way to court. What would they be likely to rule? Every other weekend? Holidays?
MadWelshMan 29 Aug 2015
I split with my ex when our daughter was 7 months old. My choice. I have had contact and arranged regular Skype videos and visits. I was unemployed during the break up. I relocated to South Wales from North Wales to be with family. maintaining the contact in person and via skype. I have moved to Germany to work and visit Uk every approx 12 weeks, where my ex allows me on average 2 hours with my daughter. I pay for the internet and supplied an iphone for FaceTime. I am lucky to get a sms each month. My most recent trip I requested more time with my daughter and also suggested the zoo. So arriving in the Uk arriving at the pre arranged place, I find my daughter not there and my ex saying that I am no longer allowed access to my daughter and never contact her again. If she ever asks about me then she may tell her. As I live in Germany would love some advice on how to regain access?
ccr 27 Aug 2015
Hi me and my ex split 2 years ago it was a very violent relationship I currently live in the midlands but wish to move to the south west as I have family there I have offered to bring my son up to the midlands once a month as I don't drive every school holidays and every xmas as I'm willing to do this where do I stand??
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Aug 2015
You would need to ask consent of your ex, if you have residency of your child and your ex also has parental responsibility. If she refuses, then you can apply for the courts giving the reasons why you wish to move away and why it may be in the best interests of your child.
SeparatedDads Editor 20 Aug 2015
If you can't agree access and you are unhappy with the move, the you would have to either take it through mediation in order to agree access, or take it to court if you have parental responsibility and she has not requested your consent.
joney 19 Aug 2015
my wife has left me and taken the children from the uk to the isle of wight, what are my rights.
Ted 16 Aug 2015
Hi I live in the UK and see my daughter often every other weekend and over night in the week one or two nights. I am first point of call of my daughter is ill at nursery and often take days of work to look after her whilst my ex works. My ex dropped a bombshell on me last Saturday that work wanted her to go to Australia for 2 months next month and she wanted to take my daughter with her. So now she is taking my Daughter who is 3 out of nursery and away from her family support group of grand parents, uncles and aunties, nursery carers and me to a foreign country to place my daughter in a different nursery so she can work. I currently have no information on where they are actually going, who will be looking after my daughter for most of this work trip and I have not seen a return ticket to show they are coming back. Should I let her do this? And where do I stand with my rights?
Phill 28 Jul 2015
My ex has moved my daughter to Scotland I have tried arranging to see her which was then cancelled I was going to travel to Scotland, I want to take her to court and was told by a solicitor that I would Need to see if the English courts can deal with it and contact a Scottish lawyer, I didn't think it would have mattered?
KR 17 Jul 2015
Hi I want to move from Scotland to Essex with my child because my mum lives there and I want to be beside her.. I'm not happy in the area I'm living in and feel if I'm closer to my mum for her support I will be a better person. Can my ex stop me doing this?
SeparatedDads Editor 23 Jun 2015
@Sweetpea - yes, you need to apply through the courts for a C4 form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts, at the same time as applying for contact. I can't say whether your ex will move or not, before the papers are served, however, if you don't try, you will never know. When you fill in the paperwork, you should specify to the courts that you think your ex may move. I hope this helps.
Sweetpea 20 Jun 2015
Hi I have a friend whose ex disappeared to another town 3 years ago and after initially trading emails has now stopped all contact. My friend hasnt seen his daughter in all that time. He has been told by a solicitor that there isnt much he can do as the ex will move as soon as contact is made by the courts. This woman and her new boyfriend will just keep moving around the country to avoid allowing access. We're pretty sure she will be claiming benefits in whichever town she's currently in. Is there anything that can be done? Please help. Very frustrating to see my friend unable to see his own child.
SeparatedDads Editor 1 Jun 2015
@WCG - I am afraid I cannot help you with this as we are a UK-based group with knowledge only of UK-based family law. I hope you manage to resolve your situation.
RNR Editor 29 May 2015
@Bob I'm in newfoundland and i'm going through the same thing. my wife is moving back to Alberta to be close to her mother and taking our daughter with her. I don't know what to do but my job won't allow me to care for a child on my own. I don't have much money so I don't know how I will ever get to see my little girl?
WCG 28 May 2015
Last year I separated from my wife after several bouts of depression and suicide attempts (treatment included electro-shock therapy). She still doesn't believe she has a mental illness of any kind. She was able to find a doctor (after seeing MANY in the last 6 years) that agreed with her and fought to get 50% custody of our two children, ages 5yrs and 18mos. By January 2015 there was a temporary court order brought forth by my ex, which I agreed to. It included 5 points including shared custody and for the children to attend the daycare and French Catholic school in Russell Ontario (20mins outside of Ottawa). She was also to live with her parents in Ottawa until the matrimonial home sold. A month into the court order she asked to move out to Russell to be closer to the kids and that the commute was too hard. I reluctantly agreed because for the first time in her life she would be living on her own, let alone looking after our 2 children. So I asked for her to get a doctor's letter stating that my ex could handle such a thing. Of course the doctor wrote a glowing review of how my ex would handle all of these stresses. For the past 5 months, we have worked to make our kid's lives stable and happy. I also recently rented a place even closer to the school and my 5year old's friends. Then my ex., in her true form, drops a bombshell. She wants to relocate the kids into Ottawa, stating her commute is too long, she can't afford living on her own out in Russell, the kids would have more opportunity in Ottawa, and a few other irrelevant arguments. In my eyes, this is a sign that my ex is being selfish and wants to be closer to her parents (possibly move into their home), regardless of what uprooting my 5 year old after a long stressful and turbulent year for us all. My mother also lives in Russell who is a major figure in my children's lives on a daily basis. My question is how likely would it be that the judge would allow this unilateral move considering we are located in a very family orientated community and the kids are in one of the best schools (ranking wise) in Ontario. What steps or ideas can I take to make sure that my ex can't uproot the children.
SeparatedDads Editor 21 May 2015
@Bob - I am very sorry to hear this. I think in this case it would be better for you to speak to someone directly. You can call the Family Lives helpline which provides professional, non-judgmental support and advice on all family matters, You will also be able to talk to one of its advisers about your finance and immigration worries and what you should and should not be paying for. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 21 May 2015
@confussed.com - have you run this by your solicitor or mediator to see what he/she advises? If your ex has left the UK with your child and without official consent 'can' be classed as abduction. The 'appropriate consent' means the consent of the child's mother, father (if he has parental responsibility), guardian and any person who has a residence order or custody of the child. The amount of consent needed will depend upon your circumstances. So, you would really need to seek some legal advice on what is the best way forward here and to ascertain whether your ex is within her rights. I have included a link to the article; What is Abduction? here which should give you more information. However, in our global society and with an increase in cross-border relationships, trying to get children back in such cases isn't easy. I hope this helps and you manage to sort out your situation.
Bob 17 May 2015
Hi.... This is so difficult and i feel helpless. The situation is very complicated and I feel like commuting suicide as I have no idea what to do and I'm not coping with the stress. I'm a South African national and my wife is Italian, we have been happily married since 2006. In this time we had 2 beautiful children, a 6 year old girl and a 2 year old boy. I love them so much and can't stand the thought of not being with them. A week ago my beautiful wife told me out of the blue that she's doesn't love me any more and wants me out of her life. I'm not very wealthy and only rent of 2 bedroom property, she stopped working after my doughter was born and I have been the sole provider for the family. I own a small property maintenance company and I work very very hard to give my children the best life I possibly can. She now expects me to move out and find my own room. She expects me to pay for the rental property and all bills and give them spending money otherwise she will go to the counsel and request a counsel property. Only a week after she told me that she doesn't love me any more some other guy came to pick her and my 2 children up in the morning and dropped them off in the evening, this really hurt me as I done nothing wrong from the first place. Heres where things get complicated... I being a non EU national is dependant on her EU nationality as a family member of a EU citizen, my children both have Italian passports and I fear that if I don't become a slave and pay everything for her I would loose everything as she would simply divorce me and I would have no right to stay in the UK. I don't want to carry on with life but the thought of not seeing my children is the only thing that keeps me going for now. Please help me I'm at the end of the rope now
confussed.com 17 May 2015
Hi me and my ex partner split up and she moved to a woman refuge claiming false domestic abuse and has taken my 15 month old daughter with here and i have just been informed that she is living in a different county without even letting me know i now have a court date and she has failed to turn up to mediation and what is to happen if she does not turn up to the court in a different county as i have no contact details for them and i am named on the birth certificate and i have placed a child arrangement order ?
SeparatedDads Editor 12 May 2015
@lisa - yes, if he can't find her address, he will have to apply for the court form C4 which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. If your nephew has parental responsibility then his ex should have requested permission to move away. Your nephew will be able to take it to court to gain access, see article; When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access, link here which tells you how to apply for a contact order and interim contact order etc. I hope this helps.
lisa 10 May 2015
my nephew and his ex. are seperated for the last year they have a nearly 3 year oldmy nephew looks after his son 3 to 4 days a week his mother the other half they dont have the best relationship but have made it wowork..... yesterday nephew fou d her house empty .....she has moved to leiscter from huddersfield wont givgive an address said shell be in touch soon. she has moved in with new boyfriend not told anyone of herplans...... nobody has custody since they split they have shared care now this does he have anyrights
SeparatedDads Editor 17 Apr 2015
@Mark1984 - Sorry to hear this. This is always a tricky situation and difficult, I know. It obviously stands to reason that your ex may want to be closer to her family and have good reason for doing so. If you are against this, the only path you can take is to opt for a PSO. A Prohibited Steps Order is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. It is mainly used where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children, without consent of the other. It will be up to the court to decide whether the move is in the best interests of your children. If you can prove it is not, then you may stand a chance. However, the court may side with your ex too, especially if she can put forth a good enough reason for needing or wanting to leave the area. I hope this helps.
Mark1984 17 Apr 2015
Myself and my partner separated in January last year after only a year of marriage (this was my decision) we have a 4yo boy and 2yo girl together who are in nursery at the moment. We both now have new partners and have up until recently been on good terms but out of nowhere suddenly she wants to move 30 miles away to "be closer to her family" but happens to be where her new partner lives. Since we split up we have had an arrangement (verbal agreement only as amicable) as I work 4 days on 4 days off that i have them on my days off.. Now I love this as I see a lot of my children and couldn't imagine life not being the same but if she moves which she is threatening to do I would have to do a school run of 120 miles a day (there and back twice) up to 4 days a week and as my ex knows I do not have the finances for this and so she just said well just see them on the weekends you have off... this will likely be only once a month and not what I want at all... What can I do?
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Apr 2015
@Sal - If you have parental responsibility she is supposed to inform you and request permission for any movement out of the area with your children. You will need to fill in the court C4, which is for an application for an order for disclosure of a child’s whereabouts. I hope this helps.
Sal 3 Apr 2015
My ex told me she was going in to London for the day with my 3 young kids. I then found out she had taken my 3 kids and moved. She didn't inform me of anything. She will not tell me where they are not even the area. I'm on the birth certificate of my 5 and 14 month old boys but not my daughter. My 5 year old has been living with me for the past 6months because my ex could not cope with the kids. I need advise. Can she do this without telling me?
maisie Editor 2 Mar 2015
@Jesta19 - sorry to hear this. In theory if she is the one that is ending the relationship, she should be the one to move out. It's whether you want to be the bigger person or not and leave her to the tenancy and find somewhere else yourself so that your son can come and stay, or whether you want to sit tight and refuse to move. The best thing I think would be to sit down with your partner and discuss this rationally. The main question is does she have the funds to keep paying the rent? It's OK saying she wants to stay, but if she doesn't work, then she's going to find it pretty difficult to manage. I would try and work it out amicably between you and try and find what the best solution is for all. You could tell her you will have your child until she sorts herself out with work etc then you can share the responsibility. Sometimes in the heat of the moment things can get nasty, but you are really best trying to keep your head and try and support her, then hopefully things will work out.
Jesta19 26 Feb 2015
Hi my ex separated with me very recently after saying she was not in love with me anymore, fine no problem there. However she is now telling me to sign over the tenancy of the flat to her and that I have to leave, she had not really contributed to food, bills rent or anything in the two and a half years we have been here. Apparently if I don't sign over the flat she is threatening to leave with my son and go to a hostel. She knows I don't want my son in a hostel, I feel like I should be the one to keep him with me as everything is under my name and she freely admits to keeping him only to prove a point to her Mum and basically out of spite. There would never be a problem with either party seeing my son. But I just can't cope with not being able to come home to my son everyday.... What can I do it may not matter to say but he is very much a daddies boy and always wants me when he is hurt or when he wakes up .......
browne 25 Feb 2015
Hi I have separated from my ex partner and I have a 12 month old son with her.I have no court order in place but at the moment I do get access to my son.My ex is threatening to move away in this country I am on the birth certificate though and I do pay maintenance to her which I have no problem with. Would it be wise to go to court and get a court order through the courts so access to my son is official to try And prevent her taking my son away from the area we live with out my permission.Can she just move my son away from me with out my permission, has she got that right? I would really appreciate any help or advice on this.
SeparatedDads Editor 19 Feb 2015
@Als - if you have parental responsibility then your ex cannot move your child's school or out of the area without your consent. I would take it back through the courts. Please see the site: How Can I Obtain a Contact Order? whichIt means that if you can't work it out between you, then it will be for the court to decide what access you have and how it is arranged. You can also use as your evidence the fact that your ex has both moved and taken your child out of her school. You may find our Separated Dads Facebook page very helpful as you will find a lot of advice from dads who have been through the same thing. There was a similar issue to yours posted around Xmas-time. I hope this helps.
Als 18 Feb 2015
My ex has a history of 'meeting the wrong people' with a few turbulent relationships my daughter has also unfortunately had to endure. Also during any time my ex is having any emotional issues my daughter is basically used as a weapon (ex stopping me or her family from seeing her) which resulted in a court order advising of my custody days entitlement. Very recently she got involved with someone who lives around 40 miles away, approx 3 months ago, and asked my opinion on moving my daughter to stay with the guy. I obviously pointed out her history and the short time she's met this man (also pointed out that in 4 years my daughter has never stayed over with at my girlfriends house) suggesting ofcourse that it would be a bad idea, to which she agreed before my daughter telling me a few days later they have moved. I then went to pick my daughter up from school the following week on the friday of my weekend with her. When my daughter didnt appear i was informed that she had been moved schools by my ex (without any discussion whatsoever). My ex is now asking that I travel to her new school 40 miles away to pick her up but i dont drive and feel completely helpless. What actions should I take here as the feeling of being treated like an imbicile and not having a say in what happens with my daughter, along with the fear that another turbulent time with my ex and her new boyfriend in inevitable, has caused me depression and i was recently rushed from work to hospital with a suspected heart attack, which turned out to be an anxiety attack through all of this!
Dicky 8 Feb 2015
Me and partner have been together 3years and in the past3 weeks of her been in durham and me only seeing my son 4 days in 3 week. She has split up with me now she is moving to durham with my 16 mnth old son can i stop her from moving there? As i work i would only be able to see my son 2 days a week as work nights its NOT RIGHT !!! Please help ??
Bob 28 Jan 2015
Following a meeting last night with my ex and her partner, she has told me that they are moving to wales and taking my 6 year old daughter with her. At present, I see my daughter every other weekend, pay maintenance and am on the birth certificate. This has come as a shock to me and am looking for any advice you can give me as to my rights and if I could actually stop this happening. Any information you can give me would be most helpful.
visor 19 Dec 2014
I've been seperated from my partner for 3 months now she moved aaway and hasn't told me were she has moved to I have been stopped seeing my so n on his b day and now havnt seen him since start ov October she has lied and got a molestation order against me I'm homeless since breaking up with her and she has contacted me several times and she has gone against her order against me wht can I do as legal aid won't help me as cant prove I was on benifits as I didn't claim anything so she could claim as a single parent so we could get somewhere to live quicker and I have no fight left in me
JenT Editor 11 Nov 2014
@OW - do you not think this would be hard on the children, now they are settled? This is something you would have to seek legal advice for as it would be a complicated case, especially if you allowed them to move back home. Do you speak to your wife, is it something you could discuss with her? It may be that she understandably doesn't want to move back, then again she might, but surely she should have a right to her opinion. You have to think of the children and their welfare and happiness first.
OW 10 Nov 2014
My ex wife took my two kids to Asia where she is from following our divorce at that time i was under mental duress due to a court case ongoing with my work and i gave a letter indicating i was happy for my son to attend school there. Its now been a year since the court case ended and two years since they moved I have since remarried I didnt realise I could take steps preventing the move her family are from asia Can I know challenge her and get the kids to come live with me or get her to move back to UK?
Chris Editor 15 Aug 2014
@Scott, I don't think you can force her to leave and come back to the UK as you both agreed to go out there for two years and just because you now want to come back you can't expect her to do the same. If you can't bear to be away from your daughter then you should stay in New Zealand with her.
Scott 15 Aug 2014
Me and my wife took our baby girl to live in New Zealand I'm on a working visa for 2 years and there on a holidays visa for 2 years we have now broke up and I want to move back to the uk is there anyway I can get her to come back with my daughter and stay there because she will want to stay in New Zealand with her mum and stap father but I have nobody there plaese help thanks
jamiekay 13 Aug 2014
my ex and I separated whilst she was pregnant with our twins as i didnt want her to continue with the pregnancy..i was too immature to cope with TWO children, still at uni, no real income, still living with my parents and tbh i wasnt even sure if i wanted to spend my life with this girl - i didnt want this level of comitment as it was too early. she lied to me that she had miscarried (she said this was because i was forcing her into an abortion and was to get me off her back) i say its because she's manipulative. I later found out that she was still pregnant and hit the roof. i shamefully assaulted her quite badly whilst she was pregnant with my children and her child (from another relationship) was present. I ended up being imprisoned for a short while initially,released on bail and then imprisoned again for trying to persuade her to drop charges. whilst i was imprisoned, she gave birth and didnt put me on their birth certificates. I got a suspended sentence, domestic violence course and community service. I applied for PR when the twins were a year old and this enabled me to have supervised visits in a contact centre. Now after nearly two years of supervised contact, she wants to take the children and move to another country. I want to apply to court for a prohibition steps order to stop her leaving but how successful will i be? There is no way we can make an agreement between us as things have been very tense since the assault
Mj 13 Aug 2014
Hi i have a contact order for my son (16month) who has never seen his father yet contact order is due to start soon but im looking into moving to scotland as family live over there and need some family support, if i have a english contact order against me what would happen in scotland?
Brad 24 Jul 2014
Hi my x stopped me from seeing my little girl a few years ago so we went to court and I got and order in place so I could have stop at my house every weekend and half of school holidays and today I have just found out by letter that she has moved away from stafford to Lancaster but surely my court order doesn't change because she is now saying I can only see my little girl when it suits her and I think it's really bad she moved her away from her school it took ages for her to settle had lots of problems of really bad shyness and took months before she can speak to someone properly she has to be 100% confided before she does any help in this matter would be great I am personally thinking of going for full custody what are my chances low or high
Lee Editor 17 Jul 2014
@NS, I don't think your partner can stop you relocating as it would be in the child's best interest to be on the mainland and within easy access to relevant medical treatment. If he refused his consent to the move and it went to court then I think a judge would allow you to move as it's in the best interests of the child.
NS 17 Jul 2014
I am looking to relocate my family from the Scottish Islands to mainland scotland, as one of my kids is undergoing long term treatment in hospital. Can my ex stop me?
chaz 13 Jul 2014
Me ex as stop me seeing my kids and is going to move away because of domestic abuse from her ex boyfriend not me can I stop her
leeo 30 Jun 2014
Can a father who is only in uk on limited leave to remain refuse his kids to relocate to africa andforce them to remain in uk ,mom and kids are All citizens father only got stay on family reasons after 12 years of seek and hide with immigration. Father only got into this relationdhip for immigration reasons and shown his true colours after getting papers, mom struggling with Depression and Isolation and want to be near to her family but exPartner opposing it because obviously he will loose reason to remain in uk , does mom carry Any weight if she goes to court for permissoin to take the 3 kids out of uk and does this man has Any right to force These kids to remain in a country where he doesnt permanently belong
Sadness 20 Apr 2014
I live in Australia and have just separated from my partner of 8 years, we have a 1 year old son. She told me to move out in 3 days or she would move with my son, so instead of making my son have to move I moved out. I was then told that because I moved out if I was to go back to the property I would be trespassing and charged by the police. She then told me that she would not let me see my son until I get a court order so I have missed xmas and easter with him. She also is not answering any messages or phone calls and not letting me know how my son is. She now is applying to move to the UK with him and told me I can visit 4 weeks a year. I can apply to stop her leaving but by doing this she will not be able to return home to her family until he is old enough to choose where he wants to live. She will definitely hate me for this and I am sure that the hate for me will reflect on what my son thinks of me. If she is made to stay by the courts I am guessing that I will only be granted to see my son every second weekend due to the nature of my work. If I let her take him to the UK I will lose my relationship with my son and regret it for the rest of my life. I believe that it is a better life here for my son but I don't want her to feel I have trapped her in a place she doesn't want to be. I love my son very much and it is killing me not seeing him while trying to get a court order. My lawyer is telling my to think of my relationship with my son and what I think is best for him but I cant stop thinking that hurting his mother by keeping her here is not best for him either. I want to do the right thing by everyone but don't want to loose my son as it will kill me.I also feel that the way she is treating me by kicking me out my house and withholding my son is unfair and she doesn't care if she hurts me. I feel so sad and dont know what to do..
Somar 6 Apr 2014
Hi I'm separating from my wife and now she is going for holidays and she wants me to stay with my baby but she didn't gave me enough time notice. She is make presser saying that I have to stay with the baby as I m in holidays but renting a room. And having no condition and not enough time to speak with the landlord. Another thing she was talking that she would move away from the country if she does is any way that I can get my baby custody. We are married but getting divorced. Thanks
Mark2014 15 Mar 2014
Hello I have recently split from my sons mother.we are getting on for the child's sake however she wants me to see my son every Saturday night till Sunday evening but I want to see him every other weekend fri-sun.we can't agree on this.do I have any rights on this or is it up to the child's mother?we are not married
Pony123123 26 Jan 2014
Please help, have been divorced approx 18 months, and separated for approx 3 years. Always had care for my 2 girls 2 nights a week. She has since moved 70 miles away and I now have girls 2 nights alternate weekends. She is refusing to do any driving in relation to pick up/drop off even though she moved. Where do I stand?
John 22 Jan 2014
My wife has taken our 12 week old baby to live in Northern Ireland. I live in England and I cannot afford to visit him as she has left him me with a lot of debt and I am struggling to make ends meet. I really want to be part of my baby's life and be there for him but with such a distance between us I don't know what I can do. I know I have made some terrible mistakes during our marriage but so has my wife. I am willing to forgive and forget for the sake of our son but she wants nothing more to do with me. It's breaking my heart not to be able to see him but I don't know what I can do.
milo 9 Dec 2013
My ex partner has moved without letting me know where. I have parental responsibility of my 18 month old son. I have tried contacting her but no reply. This woman also neglects both her children. Can I do anything??
tchef76 7 Sep 2013
Hi I recently split from my partner after finding out that she has been commiting benefit fraud whilst we were living together with our two children (1 mine 1 not) and now is using the social housing that she gets tottally funded by the taxpayer to move my children away from me.Is this acceptable that you work 60-70 a week and this can happen. I am going to report her to the dwp as I feel that my future with my children is being unfairly brushed away from me by how easy its made by the government for fathers to be dissmissed this way.
marydoll 19 Aug 2013
am from northen irrland i live in scotland my son was born in scotland but i want to move back to northen ireland my x husband is with another woman has a child with her he does no pay any money for my son he has stopped me takeing my son back to northen ireland where my family are what can i do
Shaken & Stirred 11 Aug 2013
When my ex partner and I were going through difficulties she promised me she would never leave the city we currently live in to move back to her parent's home on the other side of the country. Shortly afterwards we separated, and now on top of some pretty surprising recent behaviour she has just rang me from a week long holiday (at her parents house) to tell me that she is is in fact going to do exactly that - in the next couple of months she will take my boy away permanently. Every legal and financial advantage lies with her, and much as I love my boy I would never dream of separating him from his mum. Is that it then? She takes him away and I have to fit in with what she wants? Extremely worried by the implications for my relationship with my son (the most important thing for me personally), and with my parents and sisters - his family, not his 'second' or 'other' family. We live in a society which does not recognise equal parental rights at this moment. I feel like the pressure and strain of trying to maintain this relationship, and give him the family he deserves and was born into, falls squarely on my lap. I earn very little, have moved into a flat I can barely afford, and have only recently learned to drive. I don't have a car. Now I have to find a way of establishing meaningful contact with my (almost ) 2 year old son who will be living 3 and a half hours away. Is someone able to provide me with a crumb of comfort? I want to be strong for everyone but my family and parents especially, will be devastated. I'm feeling overwhelmingly pessimistic! p.s - I know my situation is hardly the extreme of what can happen in these instances, for example many people might think nothing of travelling that distance. I of course sympathise with anyone who's situation is more extreme than mine.
john 12 Jul 2013
I see the government has announced plans to reform the law to enable fathers to see their children,, but it does not go far enough there needs to set max time/mileage from family home that both parties can move to. So that fathers can see the children. the one wo moves away has to pay for cost of travel and not liked to maintance of the children at all
MH 8 May 2013
I am separated from my husband (18mths now) and he pays no child maintainance and has avoided CSA. He sees the children through a contact order but I have the residency order. He is unreliable, nasty to me and manipulative with the children (age 5, 8 and 13) He has falsely accused me of assault and I nearly lost my job because of it. I have had enough so I am job seeking with the hope of moving to another town (60 miles) I will still encourage contact every other weekend. My question is a) can he stop me moving? and b) how much weight does a residency order hold if my 13 year old refuses to move? Hope you can help because I do not qualify for legal aid yet can't afford a solicitor!!! Thank you!
logansdad 12 Jan 2013
My ex and I Split in august when I found out she had been cheating on me with multiple men for the best part of 8 months, the argument turned violent on both sides and when it ended I walked to the police station and handed myself in disgusted at my actions. I was arrested on the charges of assault by battery but as it was my 1st offense (ever) I guess the courts were nice on me and I was sentenced to 2 years probation and have to complete 30 hours of domestic abusers group sessions (the group thing I disagree with as lashing out in pure hurt and anger surely Isn't the same as abusing). She also had a restraining order taken out against me. When I was released from the police cells the next day from the assault (I was kept in 36 hours), she had disappeared her facebook had posts saying "think your ever seeing your son again then think again" and "yeah I'm a whore and I cheated on you but I have my son and you have nothing" She is still claiming housing benefit for the property in which we lived, and my son is still registered at the same doctor however they are gone. Speaking with the landlord for the flat he received a rent payment on the 28th December, he told me that he found my sons birth certificate and "Red Book", also if there was anything in the property I wanted that he would let me in as he has heard nothing from her since September 3rd, I took a photo album and a couple of my sons toys as well as the birth certificate. My solicitor from the assault case is working on trying to find her, he has sent numerous letters to the address where we lived knowing they wouldn't be opened. He is currently trying to get a seeking order from the courts to locate her however due to her keeping the housing benefit at that address and registered at the doctors still I suspect that all searches will only lead to that address. My solicitor has informed me that her keeping the flat on is a bit of a double edged sword... A./ It will hinder a lot of search methods making it a very lengthy process filled with lots of hurt and the bond between me and my son diminishing. And B./ If she is located then a contact order be issued, he can use the fact that she is "living" in the area to have the order state that she has to bring him to a contact center local to both our registered addresses. I am also wondering if maybe going down the route of reporting her for claiming housing benefit for a property she hasn't lived in for 4 months. If I do go down that route then I see the possibilities being that it will take the benefits agency a shorter time to locate her than a solicitor BUT when they do she will probably get arrested in her new local town and be taken to court there and possibly sent to prison. I will never hear of it if she did get arrested\tried for benefit fraud but it may make it easier for my solicitor to locate her and issue the contact order
Tony 12 Dec 2012
Mother of my daughter has done a runner after we had an argument, it has been 3 days now. She wont answer calls or emails. Seems once you've served your purpose women are willing to crucify you and destroy your life. No wonder society is so screwed.
jay 22 Nov 2012
I have recently found out my ex is trying to move 400 miles away with my daughter. I have always had contact with my daughter and lived with her for the first year and a half of her life until my ex kicked me out when my daughter was 1 and a half as she started seeing someone else. I took her to court and got a court order of overnight staying contact every weekend which ive always had. my daughter is 6 years old now but my ex has stopped contact for the last 4 months after she made a false alligation against me and police and social services investigated and did not believe my ex. infact social services have been investigating my ex since she got them involved as they found that my ex is not looking after my daughter as she should to this day. although I still have a court order in place and always payed for my daughter I have not seen her for 4 months the longest time ever going without seeing my baby girl. as I am on a low income I qualify for legal aid and am going to take my ex to court for full custody but I have been waiting 4 months for the court to process the legal aid how much longer will it be. my ex is trying move 400 miles away I need the court to hurry up how long is it going to take.
anotherdad 5 Nov 2012
Did anyone stop to think for one moment and wonder If it could have been avoided? Friend of mine meet a lady with 3 kids, the dad caused trouble all the time and had no respect for mothers family. They moved from London to Scotland. We now have a similar issue and are going through costly court process. Dad lives 15mins away has great access but can't stop causing trouble. Our lawyer told us to move away. A little bit of respect from him for our family is all that is needed. Abruptness and bullying is not needed. She has done every thing to accomafate him and his demends just get worse. Think about how you treat your ex and their family it could cause a reaction you don't like and can do little about
lee 20 Sep 2012
Just to check, if my ex currently lives in England and wants to move to Scotland with my kids I can't stop her? There are no agreements re custody in place but I regularly see them.
lz 2 Sep 2012
Hi, I separted from my husband last dec 2011. we have 3 children 7,6 ,and 4. I have a new boyfriend and have actually been seeing him for 1 year now, (it was my fault for the break up). my new partner and I really want to start introducing him into the childrens lives but my ex is preventing this saying my new partner could be a danger to the children. my new partner does not have any convictions to do with children but has convivtions of 1 abh and 1 other where he knocked someone over coming out of a shop when he was drunk by accident. Can my ex actually stop my new partner seeing the children? its been going on so long and starting to think I cant carry on living 2 separate lives, one where I am mummy half the week and the other where I am someone girlfriend, please help.
dreamer Editor 23 Aug 2012
@ alex - I don't think she can take them away without your agreement. You should speak with someone in Citizens advice as they have solicitors that you can make an appointment to go and see to get the information you need. Good Luck!
Jim 22 Aug 2012
My girlfriend of 17 years and I split up a couple of years ago and she took the kids(who are F8 and M12 yrs. old) because a few years ago I was injured at work and developed spinal and knee problems and am living on a small SS disability check and she makes more money than I do so she can afford to rent a house where as I can just barely afford a cheap 1 bedroom apt. we've always helped each other in almost everything we do but I read on her Facebook page that she was thinking of taking the kids and moving to Wisconsin,Ohio or Massachusetts and we now live in Las Vegas, NV. , which meand they would be so far away I would never see them again unless she had an accident or something and passed away and custody would revert to me but I can't afford 2 kids when I can barely make it myself. I just want her to stay here where I can see them all the time and have them spend the night on blow up mattresses every weekend when shool is in session and more in the summer.The only reason she gave for wanting to move is to be somewhere different. I don't think her wanting to move just to move to a different place, depriving my kids and me of each other, is a good enough reason. She hasn't taken into account what the kids will be feeling. I don't know what to do, I'd be lost with my kids gone forever. She's 43 and I'm 58 and have no family to speak of left as I was the youngest of 9 and almost everyone is dead now and the rest I haven't seen for decades, so I'd be totally alone.
alex 3 Jul 2012
My ex partner has just got married and has told me that she wants to move away and take my 4 kids with her.they are wanting to move 115 miles away from where we live and I am devastated.i work and dont drive.i cant afford to get a solicitor or to travel and see my kids very often.please can anyone help me or give me some advice on what to do or where to turn for help please.thank you
Si 14 Jun 2012
My wife has decided to leave with my 8 year old daughter to move nearer her new man, about 200 miles away. My daughter is my entire life. I find it totally wrong that a person(wife) who has cheated 3 times since we've been married, can take my daughter away from me, when I am not the cause for the breakup. Is a woman who is an habitual cheater, be the right person to bring up my daughter? I have decided to take some drastic measures as I cannot live without my daughter or knowing that another man will be her father, and I will have zero control in her life. This country owes more to the fathers out there who are in a similar position to me. It's not right that just because she is the mother she is the right person to take care of children. I'm just another victim of our totally biased legal system where men are seen as cash points and nothing else. Thank you for taking the time to read this. I'm sure nothing will ever change but until we as men get seen as parents nothing ever will. Take care everyone, and I wish you all the best in your lives. Si
sj 31 May 2012
My ex and her new husband moved to Australia 5 years ago taking my two girls with her with my consent, and as my way of contributing to the kids I agreed to pay for private schooling for both girls, Last year my ex decided to get a divorce to her then husband and has since re married some guy (no comments needed)..... since the new relationship she has been claiming benefits and I have now received numerous letters from the Australian CSA stating that they want to have access to my earnings to tell me what I should be paying. I rang the ACSA to tell them that the money they would be demanding would be less then what I was already paying for school fees. but there would be no way I could afford both payments so they suggested that a private agreement could be put in place to allow me to just continue paying for the school fees. Now I have received numerous letters stating that I owe thousands of oz dollars and that the school payments can only be taken into account at 30% of the moneys to be paid. My question is does such a enforceable agreement exist between the commonwealth countries to force me to pay. My eldest is now 19 and my youngest is just turning 16, I do not want my youngest daughter to have to change schools again for the third time in 4 years when what she needs is stability to help her have some form of decent education. Can you give any advice on how I should approach the issue to ensure the best for my daughter, what rights do I have. Believe me this is the short version of events for the purpose of telling the story
Mac 18 Oct 2011
What if you have a joint custody order??

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