After the Initial Court Order

After the Initial Court Order

Our three-part guide to 'Going to Court' covered all the issues you might experience throughout the court process. Many people experience issues after a court order has been made - and this guide "After the Initial Court Order" is aimed at helping you through difficulties following a court ruling.

Breaches of Court Orders

It is always important to keep a record of any breaches of a court order, however minor. Whilst it may not seem important at the time that a payment was a couple of days late or a couple of pounds short, these minor breaches all add up. A series of minor breaches on top of a more major breach of an order (such as a payment missed altogether) may be the evidence that makes a difference between a judge just giving your ex partner 'a telling off' and be told not to breach the order again, and the judge altering the order (to reduce contact or make them pay a month in advance).

You can keep a record however you like really, as long as you keep it safe. Below are a couple of popular choices:

  • Quick typed word document saved in a separate file on your computer
  • A small pocket diary kept just for the purposes of recording breaches
It is also important to keep track of any communication with your partner, even if it is just a 'courtesy call' in which there were no disagreements or agreements made. This will enable you to easily refer to exactly what was said (particularly if in person or over the phone) at a later date.

Your diary entries / notes don't have to be long.

For Example: 21/08/12 - Mark dropped Katy off at 8pm as agreed. He said she had been out with her friends at the shops all afternoon and had not had tea.

It is also worth if anything is agreed (in person or over the phone) to confirm this in writing (email is fine) with your ex partner. They do not have to reply, but they have then had the option to object if this was not their recollection of the situation.

Police Involvement in Court Order Breaches

The police generally won't get involved in breaches of court orders as it is a matter for the court to deal with. Even if your ex partner keeps your children for an extra couple of nights than they are meant to, this is not a matter for the police as the children are safe with someone who has parental responsibility. (Also consider whether you would want to upset your children by having the police come into the house and drag them away from your partner.)

If your ex partner repeatedly or seriously breaches the court order, you can apply to the courts to enforce the order. All contact orders after 2008 contain a warning about what could happen if an order is breached. If your order is breached, you need to ensure that you have an attached warning notice. You can then apply for enforcement of your order. The police will then only become involved if there are repeated serious breaches and the court punishes your ex partner via community service (or, in rare cases, imprisonment).

The police will not immediately get involved in enforcing a court order relating to children if they are with someone with parental responsibility, even if you make allegations of abuse. The correct procedure should you wish to make allegations of abuse is to make an emergency (same day) application to the courts. The police may then be used to enforce that court order, accompanying a Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service (CAFCASS) officer to remove children from a party's care.

Applying For a Change of Contact Arrangements

Clearly the easiest way to agree contact arrangements is between you and your ex partner, clarifying arrangements in writing. If this is the case and you wish to change your contact arrangements, you can simply ask to have a discussion with them and set new arrangements.

If however you have a court order detailing your contact arrangements, changing them is a little more tricky and you may need to apply to the courts again; a costly and lengthy process. The best way to deal with a change in arrangements, even if you currently have a court order is:

  • Talk to your ex partner and explain what you want to change and why. If it works out better for both of you they might not object.
  • Go your solicitor and draft a letter to your ex partner setting out the arrangements you wish to change in a more official manner on their letterhead.
  • If neither of the above has settled matters, apply to the courts to decide your contact arrangements again.

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Going back to court takes time and money, so it is important to consider a) how important it is that you make changes to the current arrangements (especially if they work) and b) how major are your changes. If your changes are purely for convenience, but can still work now, then it is really not cost effective to take your ex partner back to court if they won't agree to them. Equally if your change is to which evening you have the children (e.g. Weds / Thurs) or what time they are returned (1pm / 2pm), there is also little point in taking this matter to court.

Remember the No Order Principle: the courts will not make an order, if the position is no worse if they don't make an order than if they do.

You should always aim to work together as parents and be reasonable. If you are on the receiving end of a request to change arrangements, consider if the request is reasonable and what effect it would have on you. If for example it is a change of day when you would be in all week anyway, then why object; objecting just to annoy your ex partner is never advisable as, like it or not, you have a long-standing relationship with them (until your child is 18!)

Parental Alienation

In some cases the child may state that they do not want to have any contact with the non resident parent, this is sometimes due to the fact that the resident parent has alienated the child from the other parent. This is known by some as parental alienation, this is a controversial pathological ailment most commonly claimed during divorce or separation of parents. Symptoms of parental alienation are expressed as unjustified extreme hatred for one parent.

Parental alienation remains a controversial condition in both the legal and medical professions, as similar symptoms can easily be brought on by negative comments by the other parent, or a child blaming one party (particularly if they were unfaithful) for the relationship breaking down.

Proving it in Court

Generally legal advice would always be not to plead parental alienation in court. Judges like evidence based submissions, so if you are claiming a medical (psychological) condition, the judge will want to see a medical report to prove this. This is not the sort of report a regular GP would be able to give, so would be expensive to obtain, and many medical professionals (much like with conditions such as ME) don't recognise it as a "real" medical problem.

The best way to effectively plead parental alienation would be to produce evidence in court of your child's behaviour being unsubstantiated or unreasonable. You essentially want the judge to give the wishes of your child (one item on the welfare checklist) little weight. You are far more likely to achieve this by demonstrating how good a parent you are and your closeness with your child before the separation to show how their sudden hatred is irrational. Often mention of "parental alienation syndrome", a condition proposed by controversial American psychiatrist Richard Gardner, will damage an otherwise valid point.

SUMMARY:

  • Parental Alienation Syndrome is highly controversial
  • Many medics and lawyers do not accept it exists
  • You are more likely to succeed by proving that behaviour is irrational / influenced by the other party using evidence

Applying For a Change of Contact Arrangements

Clearly the easiest way to agree contact arrangements is between you and your ex partner, clarifying arrangements in writing. If this is the case and you wish to change your contact arrangements, you can simply ask to have a discussion with them and set new arrangements.

If however you have a court order detailing your contact arrangements, changing them is a little more tricky and you may need to apply to the courts again; a costly and lengthy process. The best way to deal with a change in arrangements, even if you currently have a court order is:

  • Talk to your ex partner and explain what you want to change and why. If it works out better for both of you they might not object
  • Go your solicitor and draft a letter to your ex partner setting out the arrangements you wish to change in a more official manner on their letterhead
  • If neither of the above has settled matters, apply to the courts to decide your contact arrangements again

Going back to court takes time and money, so it is important to consider a) how important it is that you make changes to the current arrangements (especially if they work) and b) how major are your changes. If your changes are purely for convenience, but can still work now, then it is really not cost effective to take your ex partner back to court if they won't agree to them. Equally if your change is to which evening you have the children (e.g. Weds / Thurs) or what time they are returned (1pm / 2pm), there is also little point in taking this matter to court.

Remember the No Order Principle: the courts will not make an order, if the position is no worse if they don't make an order than if they do.

You should always aim to work together as parents and be reasonable. If you are on the receiving end of a request to change arrangements, consider if the request is reasonable and what effect it would have on you. If for example it is a change of day when you would be in all week anyway, then why object; objecting just to annoy your ex partner is never advisable as, like it or not, you have a long-standing relationship with them (until your child is 18!)

SUMMARY:

  • Only resort to changes through the courts if you have to
  • If changes are opposed consider carefully whether they are strictly necessary before applying to the courts

Sample Letters

We've produced 10 sample letters to help you communicate with your ex and with the various authorities to help you achieve a positive outcome with any issues relating to your children. You find them here:

After court letters part one.

After court letters, part two.

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SeparatedDads Editor 1 Apr 2026
@Pacer Gary, what a frustrating journey you've been through. Completing the DAPP programme is a significant achievement, especially given all those obstacles. The wait must be agonising now you've done everything asked of you. Unfortunately, courts are overwhelmed right now and judges often take weeks to issue directions, even for straightforward matters. While deeply unfair, this delay isn't unusual. Keep calling the court weekly for updates, and consider putting your enquiries in writing too, as this creates a paper trail. Since you're at such a crucial stage, it might be worth consulting a family solicitor, even just for a one off consultation. They could advise whether there are ways to expedite matters or if a gentle nudge to the court might help. Many offer fixed fee initial appointments. Stay strong. You've come this far, and you will see your children again.
Pacer 9 Oct 2022
I recently finished a DAPP 26 week on 9th August 2022, which the District Judge ordered me to conplete back in Court on 31/08/21 she threw obstacles like face 2 face only in the time of a pandemic which the DAPP providers could not provide, She eventually lowered her stance due to the onocrom virus & allowed Zoom sessions, This Judge is a peice of work I can tell you, But I was determined she had took out Cafcass also so I had to self referal & pay for the programme which was not a issue, but it took 4 months before she ordered it to start the DAPP due to her strict stubbornness, all this in a time of a pandemic & Cafcass & Ministry of Justice now saying there is backlogue of 700 cases, I now have completed the programme & sent the end report from the DAPP providers that the District Judge requested to lift the stay on Contact of my 5 children, I sent the email with the report in on 31/08/2022 but a incompetent Family Court admin man decided not to forward it to the District Judge so I queried it 10 days later & was told he had not sent the email by one of his colleagues she kindly sent it, The District Judge has now opened it on 13/09/22 but not responded to it & sent me any directions of what happens next? I have phoned up the Court but they just said there waiting on the Judge to give directions. Has anyone been through a similar situation to where I find myself now, I would appreciate any advice of what or how I should proceed. KInd Regards Gary
Granny 6 Sep 2021
im just reading these stories and its shocking, my son is going through the same thing, he has a court order for weekend and holiday access for his daughter and the mother has stopped his contact since end of june and made up a rediculas excuse, and now moved 20 miles away with no forwarding address, it might mot seem long but to us its been forever since we saw her and he now has to go back to court because she has broken the court order! its so heartbreaking as my grandaughter is 5 and has stayed with us since she was1yr old, my son is on antidepressants and ive had to go on medication and been signed off work through stress, it doesn't just affect my son but all family members and more importantly my grandaughter.
Joy 26 Jan 2021
My son as a court order to have his daughter with me (grandma) every other weekend and half of school holidays... But mother is buying her stuff ...talking horrible about us... Putting stuff in her mind against us.... And not letting us collect her but the police won't do anything and we don't have the money to go back to court it's ridiculous how she gets away with breaking the law and we can't do anything.... We were told when in court now there's a court order she can't refuse... But she is and no-one seems to no how we can enforce this?? Anyone any idea
Caz 28 Dec 2020
My partner hasn’t seen his kids for 2 years they are in the care of their aunt (kingship order I think) doent know the we’re about of the mother applied to court a year ago and got told he needed to provide we’re the mother lived (no idea where and tryed everything to find out with no luck) tried medication a year ago the aunt said No just tired mediation again this month with No respond from the aunt been told to ask the court and apply for an arrangement order but still don’t know we’re the kids mum lives (do know we’re the aunt and the kids live) what can this desperate dad do to see his children again please help
Kruga 23 Dec 2020
My son is in court to see his son because the mother stopped him seeing is son 22 month’s ago 2 court dates and 2 Phone calls due to Covid -19 and still no fact finding even met with the judge and caf cafs and there not letting him have any say so we have gone for a brief now barrister now please any info the better thanks kruga ??
Sp93 17 Dec 2020
My ex partner applied for a child arrangement order in May 2020 the judge placed a temporary order. The order stated that my daughter would live with me Monday to Friday and her mother would have her over the weekend. My ex partner immediately broke the order by not returning my daughter on the set date and moving 300 miles away, I then applied for a c79 enforcement order. When we returned to court my ex told the judge that she had broken the order on the 25th of May alleging that my daughter had been neglected whilst in my care, and that her 5 year old cousin had abused her. After police and hospital investigations this was obviously proved to be false. The order has still not been enforced. The court said social services need to do a report, the social worker failed to complete the first report blaming it on covid 19. The second report the judge said this is an incomplete report as the social worker only contacted me once regarding my thoughts about my ex partner's mental health. Also in this report my ex partner claims that she found out about the alleged neglect and abuse on the 9th of June and reported it on the 10th of June? So why did she tell the judge that she had broken the order on the 25th of May due to these allegations? The court ordered the social worker to complete another report in which he had to witness myself and my daughter interacting at a contact centre because we have not had any contact since the 22ed of May, Also he would need to assess how my daughter would be cared for should the court order that my daughter would live with me. I have now attended the contact centre three times (600 mile round trip) each time my ex partner has failed to show up giving no reason why, she has since avoided any contact with the social worker. I have now applied for another c79 enforcement order as there is no reason the original order should not be enforced. The social worker has also written to the court saying that my ex has broken yet again another court order. Since the start of these proceedings she has only attended 2 out of 8 court appearances. Surely she should be held in contempt of court? I dont know why this has been allowed to carry on the way it is? If I was the one who broke the original order I would of already been punished for it. Is this just something against fathers?
Boomtherat 21 Nov 2020
Hi, I have a contact order in place that allows 3 nights 4 days every 10 days. The order is very specific as it was breached so many times by the mother. My daughter now 12years of age is being manipulated by the mother and visitation has been prevented, I am always making myself available for my daughter but each time there is another excuse as to why visitation doesn't go ahead. Mother now answers my messages to my daughter claiming it is her replying so I have no contact whatsoever. I am tired of the court route after spending over £40,000 and Cafcass still taking mothers word over mine, obviously the court are guided by them. I fear mother is going to try and get even more from me via the CMS (already paying via the CMS) which again on top of losing contact with my little one will financially cripple me. Where do I stand with the CMS in this matter, still have the contact order but mother is breaching to get more money? Many thanks in advance. Lee
Tan 12 Sep 2020
My partner has just had to apply to the court again as his ex had breached the court order with access to his son and now he’s had the court case and he’s not happy with the decision made even after his ex breaking the first court order is there anyway that he can appeal or anything as he’s not happy with going anywhere near her family unless it’s in a public place and she stated she could never do that as she has to take her husband to work which was a complete lie as when we went to collect from her mother in laws house her husband was the one walking with his son from there house so obviously not working so a public place could have been agreed
Dan 9 Sep 2020
Hello, I currently have a contact order in place that says I pick the kids up from school one day per week, spend a few hours with them, feed them (restaurant as i live too far away to be able make a meal at home) then have back to their mother by 6:30. i have the chance to amend this to work better by picking them up from school and having them over night so i can take them to school in the morning. do i need to do mediation before i can i apply to court, the Mother has always refused to attend. many thanks Dan Parkhouse
Eric 14 Jul 2020
Hi, Can I ask a question on school holidays and court orders? Current arrangements are Thursday evening to Sunday. This Thursday falls on a weekend where School term ends on Friday the 17th of July for the children and Monday 20th of July is a Teacher Training. So would suggest this is my standard weekend. Court order states: The ‘Regular/Term Time Arrangements’ are suspended during the summer holiday. I should then have 14 nights and 7 nights for the school summer holiday. So logically I should see my son on Thursday night as normal returning on Sunday at 5PM. So wondering if the first night of school holiday is therefore the Friday night or Monday night? So wondering what of the two days dictates regular contact ends. The ex is trying to force if I have my son on Thursday night then should carry through to Sunday, then will stop me from having the 7 days later in the school holidays and so I only have the 14 night period. My argument is that is a normal weekend. Therefore I should see my son as normal on Thursday, return him on Sunday and have the 14 day/ 7 day as per court order. Am I correct?
Chris 13 Jul 2020
After thinking long and hard yeah I guess I am like my (cousin Timmy )oh well we all can’t be amazing fathers and I guess I am not like the other guys in my family who see there children on weekends and have holidays together and be a family .but On a brighter note I have my brothers mates and go on holidays actually this year at Christmas we are going to the Kimberly fishing remote rivers bye helicopter and swimming in waterfalls for 7 nights .so hopefully the Covid -19 buggers off and borders open properly because this has always been something I wanted to do .and taking 6 months to pay off on holiday package so fingers crossed the world is back to normal bye then .
Chriso 13 Jul 2020
@[email protected] I guess that way you are safe in a contact centre and still see your child .(for me I would never go to a contact centre but that’s just me).and grantie08 I can’t give advise on court orders On visitation never had one( or was willing to go to court for visitation but that’s just me all the best for you guys) but .truth told here (my daughter is grown up now) so in my case it doesn’t matter anymore from when the mother left all those years ago what I discovered with blogs like theses and others how much (men have changed the whole world for that matter) .back then it was unheard off in my circle anyway for fathers going to court for visitation.
Grantie08 13 Jul 2020
Hi, I have a court order giving me contact with my boy every other weekend 10am Saturday to Sunday 4pm. It stated in the order any other contact should be agreed between parties. This was like 4 or 5 years ago now and I am unable to get the mother of my boy to extend my contact or even be able to take him on holiday during the summer. Can I go back to court and amend the current order that’s in place?
Abubaker Sedeqi 13 Jul 2020
@chris thanks for ur information . You are right thats what i am wondering not to make it difficult for self , so its better to keep involve the contact center .
Chris 12 Jul 2020
@abubaker.i can relate to your post .i myself have been on orders and not allowed to contact the mother or child directly or indirect.for my situation I have given up for a lot of reasons.main one is the( child’s age )she is legal age now to make up own mind if she wants to meet me .(because in my situation I got nothing to say to her mother and really don’t want contact with her) .my advise is be carful if your ex put you on these orders what’s to stop her again?.
Abubaker Sedeqi 12 Jul 2020
Me and my wife get separate 3 years ago , i have a child , On that time my ex alleged me with violence , and i went court , court decide i should not contact her direct or indirect for 5 years if i want to see my child should be arrange through solicitor or mediator , and i did that , i see my son at contact center , so now we are agree to have a contact by email and see my child , pick up from home and drop him back to home with out contact center, Now im wondering if we have a contact by email with each other to arrange time and day for child is it legal or need some process Cause i should not contact her direct or indirect according previous court order but now we both agree for our child to be in touch , can we do or not , Any one help please
Lj 3 Jul 2020
Av just been fighting for a year to get contact with my daughter and today I found out that am only allowed limited access when there no safeguarding are me or my family but her mother partner has been done for domestic abuse and yet the court are okay for her to move her schools and keep her living there full time with her mum and partner while I only get every other weekend and shared holidays but I wanted half custody is this a fair judgement or is there anything I can do or get advice on where do I go from here thanks you all for reading my story
Gk 19 Jun 2020
I was wondering whether a child agreement order has the same standing even if I am not there? I am having to leave the country for two weeks due to work. One of the weeks I will be away is my week with the children. My ex has said I have lost that week cause I should cancel my work trip if I really love my children. Bearing in mind this is the first time it has happened in years I don’t want to lose that week as my children usually spend most of our week with my two sons and wife. They have a really good relationship and I don’t see why my children with my ex partner can’t come over or why she should break the agreement. Is she legally entitled to do so? Thanks
Chris 16 Apr 2020
@whatsthepoint.people say I have (mental health issues I know this for a fact )They say I’m unstable violent controlling.i don’t (care) what they say about me .and I am (walking away and giving up ).i done with (courts).f that I’m nearly (40 )now time to enjoy my life and it’s time I find (someone special to spent my life with and have a few to choose from and I didn’t even realise it’s remarkable when you open eyes ).thats what I’m focusing on I want to (settle down )now .and Be family men .
Whatsthepoint 15 Apr 2020
Court orders aren't worth the paper they are wrote on. My partner applied to enforce it, he had the call today and he just got fobbed off. No matter how much proof or evidence you have it doesn't matter one bit Instead the mother steps in the week before and says for the first time that the child has mental health problems. Now despite us paying, providing concise evidence my partner now gets to see both his children less. No wonder so many wonderful Dads give up and walk away. The justice system is pants!
Rj 11 Apr 2020
Hello I have a very controlling ex partner whom since day one has not bothered with our children but the minute I leave him he wants access, fast forward took me to court and was given court order for every second weekend. He spends little time with the children when they are there, does not know how to relate to them, my question is when my children reach 10 year's old can they speak to the judge and Express that they have no interest in this individual? Has anyone had the same experience at all? Thankyou. Best to add in this character is a self harmed, alcoholic and severe mental health issues. This has all been mentioned in court and medical records shown as proof but has made no difference.
n/a 24 Feb 2020
i lost my children in 2013. zainab kais and affan kais. they left me and live in 2 bissagoss court bermuda way, london e1 stepney. before iwasremovedin 200 from 4 months old baby. now it has been 7 years i cant see them . my children and me suffering by traumaticillness. zainab and affan misss me everyday. my name is in tenancy aggrement in 2 bissagoss court but i cant live because my wife harrass me everytime by false blaiming. [externalshelter also] my situation very bad, my benefit all taken arrears, bankcruptcy ! jobs being stoped since nmany years.after 28 yearsin uk i want lieave th thiscountry but for my children i cant. i am a separated dad, i read the separated dads equal rights. but i need my childen. i seek your kind consideration. kind regards imrul kais 8 philip blairman house elder street london e1 6dg 07748324268
Jeangenie 13 Feb 2020
I have tried to register to gain some support for my son as we are now on our 5th court case and nearly £18, 000 down but the site does not seem to work, it wont accept me and said to contact admin, is it a bit like Father's for Justice site, only looks good on paper? We paid them £40 and never heard another word
Ben 4 Feb 2020
You are not offering any help! Court orders enforcement orders are not worth the paper they are written on! If the mum doesn’t want the father to see the child there is nothing you can do about it. And no one will help. Parental alienation is not controversial! just by saying it you invalidate it. Offer some real help to people as this website is utterly useless!
Jay 10 Jan 2020
My son has a lived with order and has his son fulltime. The judge passed order that the maternal mother has no contact or visitation. My son asked the judge that he would like his son to have contact and know whom his mother is as lons as supervised. So for 1 hour a month was agreed between both parents taking into account for 1 year the mother didnt bother seeing her son. So only for few months did she stick to it then nothing again. Now she applied to courts to try overturn this order or yo get 50 50 shared care. Can it be overturned.
None 8 Dec 2019
My ex has said they are taking me to court for access. This was 2 weeks ago - how long does it take for the paperwork to come through?
Dave 21 Nov 2019
Hi. I have a directional appt coming up for a child arrangements order. My Wife left our house almost a year ago with my 2 year old and then I received a non molestation order against me even though some of the claims were lied. We both signed undertakings not to contact each other. She is now living over 200 miles away. Is it worth me going to the directions appt without a barrister or just not turn up. I have been told it can take a yew or two to have it issued and could thousands and thousands and even then usually supervised to start off with. My kid is over 5 hours away from me and I havent seen him since they left the home. I am missing him so much.
cookie 19 Nov 2019
Can you do the ex partner has put nothing but complete live in a court order her Reasons for not attending the mediation back in August I’ve just found this out now is domestic violence 100% A fairytale simply didn’t happen I can’t get legal aid no solicitor dealing with this myself have you got any advice for me
Jed 19 Sep 2019
Hi, i have recently got a court order to have my children every weekend pick up Friday at 6 return Sunday at 5 yet my manager is saying she is not bothered I have to work Sunday’s is their a law against this as I have the order or should I find a new job ? Thanks
dave 13 Aug 2019
to the person who wants to no about family court and false allegations you need to believe what im going to SAY the courts caffcass social care are all corrupt i have proof the mothers solicitor will encourage the mother to make false allegations the court will bleed the father dry of his mind money and his soul the best thing he can do is suck up to the mother be very nice and ask her if they can sort contact out them selfs if the father does not take this advice he will ether end up taking his own life or he will never see his kids again the father will think he has rights trust me he has none at all please take my advice if the father would like to speak with me im happy to tell him what i went though twice and i have not seen my kids in two years now the court is just a money making machine FACT.
FrustratedDad 18 Jul 2019
Hi, I have recently been through the court process to gain access to my 2 year old Son, access was totally restricted for a period of 3 months, the worst 3 months of my life ! ... eventually all was resolved after having to incur costly solicitors fees. The Court Order for access was strictly for access only, nothing to do with maintenance as conformed by the Judge (after my ex consistently mentioned money). My question is ... My Son was in private nursery when the order was put in place, the judge gave me access on a Wednesday and Thursday day, I believe he thought that he was doing me a favour yet as soon as the Court order was received in the post, my ex emailed me to tell me that she can no longer afford nursery (even though the CMS payments had increased since and she also sent me an email telling me the dates of the 3 holidays she's going on) and that she will be removing him and that I will have to make arrangements myself for those days, really meaning that I will have to pay the nursery fees for those days. I have always contributed to the fees but have no obligation to and have always been fully compliant with the CMS of whom she is also taking me to tribunal. I really cannot afford the payments anymore and am getting myself into more debt as time passes, any help guidance would be much appreciated if anybody else has experienced similar problems, my understanding is that she is in contempt of the order by removing him from nursery but I am not sure?
Spud 31 May 2019
My Husband really needs some advice regarding upcoming family court with his ex and numerous false allegations. We have both tried to register on the site but it won’t let us and the admin haven’t answered emails. Can anyone help please?
Nutsy 27 Apr 2019
my eldest is nearly 14 he is living with dad under a court order atm and stays with me every other weekend. He now has strong feelings against his dad.....he doesn't want to live there he wants to live back with me. He has had ss involved before.....he doesn't trust or talk to them, his dad wont let him back here what does he do? Can he get a free solicitor? he doesn't trust no one at school either
Nick D 22 Feb 2019
I have a court order issued via final order some 22 months ago giving strict 50/50 care of our daughter. I took my ex back to court 18 months ago and the judge went spare at us both. It was beneficial, in a much as it forced mum to talk and much of her controlling behaviour relented (for a while). Since this point, we have mutually varied the order (realistically, my ex did her own thing and contacted me last minute to arrange contact, usually 6:1/ 6:2 split over a week). For example, over the summer holidays, she saw mum 4 nights out of 7 weeks. Our daughter will be twelve 3 months. She has become used to the arrangements, living with me and very settled well (she has found the last minute ad-hoc requests for contact from mum frustrating). Mum now has a new relationship and wants to return to the 50/50 arrangement. Her communications have actually become semi-litigious, somewhat economical with the truth in an attempt to make herself look good and done nothing to build any form of trust. I have to some degree ignored them and refused to engage, par one e-mail. Our daughter is adamant that she doesn't want to return to the old court arrangement and has said she won't go to mum's after school on the set days (she's in secondary and makes her own way to school and back). I am not in the frame of mind to force her either. I have discussed it at length and established what sort of time she wants to spend with her mum. She stated throughout the last proceedings she wanted to spend more time with dad and has now got used to this. My ex isn't listening and is unilaterally trying to force through her own agenda (she is particularly controlling and very manipulative). So, do I take this back to court again? I'm of the frame of mind of letting our daughter vote with her feet and then waiting for my ex to have to deal with it as opposed to go for the head-on litigation. Maybe it's time for our daughter to have her say; or; by refusing to return, time for mum to accept some feedback? I'm not keen on the court process. My ex spouts all sorts of lies, nothing is ever looked into properly and the whole system is adversarial, which doesn't nothing to settle our daughter. TBH, I am becoming somewhat resentful of my ex, for being so selfish as to keep putting our daughter through this and praying on her emotions. She is so selfish. Thoughts please.
desperatedad 9 Feb 2019
hi, just after a little bit of advice. I have been to court and won contact with my daughter for one day a week, progressing to two days and currently it is on tow days, one overnight stay. My ex has recently had a baby so hasn't been working. I however, works shift work and my ex is aware of my shift pattern being 4 days in 4 days off. She has been happy for me to see my daughter on every second day and third day of my days off. Now she is telling me I might need to change my days when she goes back to work as it might stop her from seeing our daughter all the time, depending on her work pattern. Her work rota changes on a monthly basis whereas mine is the same all year around. She has explained that days might need to change so she can get to see our daughter too, but our daughter lives with her. She has also told me that she is moving, and after recently agreeing that if both of our partners cant drop off/pick up our daughter, then we are to meet at a public place. This has been fine until she has decided to move, to which I have asked to meet at a public place which is in the middle for us both, at the designated time we have previously agreed. She has now told me that due to her other childs sleeping times, I will either have to drop my daughter off at her home, even though there have been allegations of domestic abuse, hence why I am more confortable with a public place. Or I need to meet at a public place earlier, which then reduces my time with my daughter. She also stated that if im not happy with that then I am to change my days, which is practically impossible due to work commitments. I feel really lost as I have requested that we go to mediation to resolve this matter, to which she declined as she stated she isn't paying for mediation so I might as well take her back to court. I feel like if I don't agree to her way then my contact with my daughter will be affected. As she has stated I wont be getting my daughter if she cant get back home to hers, but wont agree on anything auitable for both parts, just for the simple fact she has another child.
Hannah 22 Jan 2019
Me and my partner are due a baby in 3 months. His ex stopped contact with his 2 previous daughters for lots of various reasons over the past 1 1/2 years. Latest being their 7 year old can’t deal with change so meeting me or a new sibling would put too much strain on her. He applied for court order and first hearing was awarded interim contact of mon-thur-Friday over night until 7 pm Saturday. And the second week the same with no weekend. Conditions attached are I am introduced 2 hours only every other sat. When baby is born another 3 months of me and baby allowed contact 2 hours every other Saturday. Not allowed at my property. Not allowed our previous children to meet. This seems so strict considering we were going to move in together before baby arrives and now we can’t. I’ll be left 4 days and nights one week to manage alone. I’m not sure how I’ll manage after a c section without his help and other children to care for. There are no safeguarding concerns on me or him just the daughters ‘apparent’ struggle with change. (Mums introduced new partner all was fine and moved 4 times in 7 years) he was a litigant in person and she had a solicitor and he felt bullied to agree or lose interim contact altogether. Just seems 24 hours over 6 months to adapt to me and a baby in their lives is ridiculous. Everything now has to change and he can’t wven have all 3 of his children together for more than 2 hours a fortnight. Can he appeal interim contact? He will have to have all this contact at his dads then at final hearing is he allowed to move in? I doubt that would then be allowed given they would have spent such little time with me and a baby and no time with children already living here. Really at a loss as to what we are able to do. How can we be expected to have a baby so soon and under these conditions. How is this fair on the children. Vindictive parenta punishing children for their own gain really get to me. What’s the next step other than waiting 6 months?
Chan 15 Dec 2018
Hi I need advise my partner had his son who is 7 literally 50/50 since they split every tues night Thursday night and every other fri to Monday .. anyway there was on going issues at her house her and partner had very nasty arguments fights infront of his son and step kids . Police been involved and social services but cases closes but because my partner was concerned and asked her to Maybe put emotional support in place for little one at school because he was struggling, she refused this but social services advised her to agree for best interest of child.. Well she ended up being spiteful and cut our tues it upset son and dad and dad tried to sort it she wasn’t having any of it , went to mediation she refused . It got signed off no intent she told him to go court . She couldn’t wait for him to take her to court . Well he filed for court and she cut all contact now and stated he’s a druggie he used to smoke weed occasionally but never infront of kids and she knew this the whole 10 years they was together .. even got messages she let us take him out the country 11 days in June , she also filed for csa bare in mind we used to buy everything for ours all his uniform and shoes and coats . Went to court on tues her police report isn’t back so we didn’t see a judge we paid for a solicitor so waste money cos got no were.. we tried to put tempers interim in place and she stated we could have him only for tea on tues and thurs and every other fri to sun.. we want happy but only tempery so agreees so solicitor told her then she changed her mind sed we could only see him supervised with her until she knows he not a druggy. She wanted a cocaine test .. so more expense but we agreed . She believed it was going to take ages for test.. so we went to consent then she sed she want cannabis test too even tho she knew he used to do it and never had a problem got TEXT saying she knows he does it and don’t ever kick off.. well my partner stopped in October and he explained this . The solicitor ordered a drug test sed it be over 90 days but would be monthly results so would show clear for dec, nov and usage in October .. but after doing the test the lab told us it won’t come bk clear until 90 day weed free so there will be a high reading October then lower reading for nov and dec .. but the agreement she sed he had to prove he weed free which this test won’t prove it and she won’t acceot urine sample .. ?? she is deluded she let us have supervised contact on wed and she kicked off at us swearing infront of the kids and she was trying to get Bobbi to go he didn’t want to her fella was even saying stop stop kicking off no need it’s all on record and it’s only her shouting n being horrible she phone police and when they come she states I was aggressive to her ?? I didn’t barely say anything bare in mind she was given a harrassment advice letter cos she kept kicking off and lying .. police didn’t listen was literally believing her crap.. also Bobbi told us he didn’t
Charlie 22 Nov 2018
Ok this is complicated, my son is now 14, when he was 1 me and his mom split up, it definitely wasn’t a best of terms split but I always had contact every second weekend and when the mother had gotta into a new relationship(son was roughly 3 years old), me and my partner was getting him every weekend until they got married about 2 years later. At this point they reluctantly wanted me to have my son at all, but managed to get him again every 2nd weekend, however when he was 5 his mother and step dad was on holidays to Spain and on this holiday she had a mental break down and was convinced her husband was trying to kill her. At one point on this holiday police pick her and my son up walking around very early in the morning (remember my son was 5years old), once she arrived back in the airport she had issues with the airport security and again later that night had wandered into a house down the road from her house with a brick in her hand saying that they where out to get her, at this point I’d like to mention that they had a little girl that they didn’t bring on holidays with them, anyway I had found out about a week after they where home, I had gotten a call from the mother who was checked into a mental health ward, she told me she didn’t trust her husband and wanted me to take my son, now understanding she had mental breakdown I new that her husband wasn’t the villain she was making him out to be but I didn’t care I wanted my son safe a secure with me and my partner, so I arranged to collect my son, his mother was in hospital for a year with in this year I had got my son started in his first year of school and also took My so up to see his mother once sometimes twice a week (2 hour journey) I had made sure visitation to the mother side of the family was made available, all this time working with social workers (worst experience of my life, it felt like they where always on the mother side) After the mother got out of hospital supervised visitation in a social centre was planned twice a week once closer to where we lived and the other closer to where they lived. His mother was not happy about her having to travel and after some issues was asked not to come back to my local centre and when we had gotten another centre that was slightly further away, after 2 visitations was asked not to come back to there as well, this visitation went badly for about a year (that’s now 2 years of my son living with me) she dicided she wanted him back and had gotten a lawyer, at this point I was happy with all that had went on a was pretty sure this was now giving me actual approval from the court that I would be my sons legal gardain, my son is now 7 years old. His mom now stated that I was not the father, my lawyer said we needed to do a dna test (which I would have to pay for lol) well the DNA test proved a wasn’t the father and as you could guess my heart broke and I remember going to my sisters in tears but on that same day promise that didn’t matter. After a
Anne 14 Nov 2018
I have taken my ex to court to get my access back but he has breached the cords again for the 2nd time do I have to pay to take him back please anne
Anon 11 Nov 2018
My partner has just been to court and won his case for access to his daughter. In court they stated that the order would allow him to see her regularly as well as have her for holidays, take her abroad, and have her on Father’s Day and alternate christmases and birthdays. We have recently received the written court order in the post and it does not have anything in it about the alternate Birthday, Christmas, having her every Father’s Day or being able to take her abroad on holiday. This was all stated verbally to him and his ex in court but she is extremely awkward and will probably use the fact that it is not in writing in the court order to stop it from happening. Is it possible to get these added to the order and if so how do we go about doing that? I. The draft copy that was scribbled down at the final court hearing it does state everything that was discussed but in the proper printed copy, it has missed bits out? Do you have any advise please as my partner has been through so much stress trying to get this order and I just don’t want his ex to start trying to use loop holes to prevent him having his daughter as agreed.
Primrose Hillbilly 10 Oct 2018
The final (out of 5) custody hearing, where my ex was to apply to be the main carer for the two gilrs was to take place on this coming 23rd October. Her wish to become the primary carer was so as to not have to pay me the money, and to make my life more financially difficult. She has always sought more time from the courts to prepare her case, and has been granted time extensions by the court several times before, always being warned "this is the last time". She has now sent me an email saying she now only wants to see them 4 nights every month, cannot commit to specific dates, and despite the £90k salary, cannot afford wrap around child care. The October hearing was to determine her petition to become the full time carer. This whole thing was designed to cause me maximum stress and difficulty. Is it possible to have the intent of the original application stayed or enforced by the court so she becomes the full time carer and the gilrls stop being messed around? Thanks for any thoughts on this
Lotty 8 Oct 2018
Hi, I've got a court order to see my 2 daughter's but my ex has moved one of them out of the school I knew she was at, and now I don't know where she is so I can't get photos or school reports. He's not told me he was gonna move her. She's 10 and I'm scared ill never see her again now. My court order was in 2011.I can't afford top go back to court or pay £200 Just for a letter from my solicitor. And now they've stopped legal aid. What can I do? Please
Al 19 Sep 2018
My ex and I was in court because of her very heavy and erratic drinking. She is a binge alcoholic basically and once she starts she won’t stop, whatever time of day it is. The court case went on for almost two years whilst I had the kids with me for 2 years whilst she had supervised contact. After 3 months of clear testing the court gave her 3 days per week overnight. After 3 months of the order she literally went back to her old ways and has been up and down constantly. My kids routine keep having to change and ideally they need stability now for school. My question is what will the court do if I apply to the court to vary the order? Will they just keep giving her chances or will they cut her days down to possibly once per week and that be the end of it?
Ted bundy 17 Sep 2018
@zoe27.i think he does care about his child .i think his mother hates you with( good reason )and the only one not in a fit state is (you) .i think you are alienating the father and twisting everything around to make the( father look bad) .becuase you know you are in the wrong and feel( awkward with guilt) because your lieing has been exposed for a (scheming vindictive jealous ex )because your ex (upgraded from you) .and the only way you feel in control is stopping access to his child you women are all the same text book .
SeparatedDads Editor 13 Sep 2018
Your child's father would not be able to change the contact order and/or agreement unless he referred the matter back to court. It is highly unlikely a court would agree to make the changes he is suggesting.
Sandy89 12 Sep 2018
Hi, my ex and I couldn’t agree over several issues such the child’s surname (has mine since birth 3 years ago but ex wants his name used), where our child will live And what contact arrangements to follow. A child arrangement order was made with myself and the child able to live abroad in (both child and I are Belgians and my ex is British residing in England) and her father was to visit monthly and the name would not be changed. One of the conditions of the court order was for the father to register the court order abroad where I live and that the courts in Belgium has jurisdiction over PR and family matters involving our child. To date, he has not registered the court order, not visited regularly (only visited once and there are no plans for future visits) but had sent me an email stating he will put himself on the English birth certificate and change our child’s name in England and that he is fully capable to do so without my consent. My understanding is that if he wanted to change any of the agreements made in the order then we would need to go back to court, is this correct? My concern is that I’m being told he can go and change whatever he likes without going back to court even though we went to court to agree on these matters and now he’s changed his mind and I’m concerned how it works as we are an international family with different laws in each country. As far as I am aware, because he has not registered and activated the court order in Belgium, it does not apply here but would apply if my child and I were to be in England for any length of time although there are no plans to go to England.
SeparatedDads Editor 11 Sep 2018
Any changes to a contact order must be agreed by both parties. One party cannot unilaterally decide to change the order or apply additional terms. If they wish to do so, they will need to refer the matter back to the courts, or agree through a solicitor or mediation. If you are the parent who wishes to make the changes, then it is not up to the other parent to help pay, unless the other parent agrees to.
Dan 9 Sep 2018
I have a court order in place and i want to make some changes to it. I have sent an email stating what I would like to change to my ex and she is saying because in court the judge asked her solicitor to type up the court order, if I want to make any changes I have to pay her solicitor is this correct?
Kerri 7 Sep 2018
My ex went to court falsely claiming parental abduction and the short of it is that it was proven false and then a child arrangements order was made which stated contact arrangements for our daughter. My ex has never followed this order and in the last 3 years has only seen her twice, the last being in July. He’s ignored all my attempts of contact to him (texts,calls,emails) and our daughter was first very upset but has now stopped asking about him. Is there anything I can do to get the order changed as he doesn’t follow it nor does he want to. In court he stated he wanted to visit every 6 weeks but never followed the schedule he chose and I’m concerned that leaving contact open as I have done will be more damaging to our daughter as she cannot understand why her daddy dips in and out of her life whenever he chooses. He’s previously been threatening me that he will take me to court for not following the order when I told him that two sets of dates he gave me were unsuitable (as we were on holiday) but apart from that he’s not mentioning and definately not committed to following the Order he took me to court for.
Nic84 30 Aug 2018
Me and my ex we sign a child arrangement in January regarding school arrangement. We made few changes in the summer holiday but just for the summer. When I asked him to respect the agreement as school start next week he replied that the agreement as not validity as I have move house and there is my old admin it. Can he do that?
GNC 26 Aug 2018
Hi my partner has had a CAO for 2 years now and it was working ok but over the last few weeks we’ve been finding out a lot of things which raise serious concerns of emotional abuse especially with his eldest who’s 10. We spoke to a solicitor social services and police for advice and they said under safeguarding to stop contact and reapply back to court. We’ve done this and are filing the application in a few days when we have the money but I’m just wondering is this right? She’s been giving him alcohol, sending him back here with a non retractable Stanley knife, and he’s sat down and told us that she follows him round when he’s on the phone and he has to lock himself in the bathroom to get away from her. She tells him he’s not allowed to tell his dad certain things so he worries about talking to us because she has a go at him. She was emotionally abusing him before they came to like with us and it obviously hasn’t stopped. Do you think the judge will understand? We’re still going to let them ring her so they’re not completely cut off but will have to monitor it, and will be arranging a supervised visit for youngests birthday in 2 weeks. Also would I file as urgent or is it non urgent?
Abonnick 14 Aug 2018
I went to court 3 years ago and a agreement was met but no court order was placed my ex hates my wife to be even tho we've been together 2 and a half years and have a son together but my ex is refusing access now she has called social services police on us and even social have said our property is safe and kids are happy what do I do
SeparatedDads Editor 13 Aug 2018
If there is a court order in place that doesn't specifically allow for an overnight stay and you take your children overnight without the consent of your ex, she can ask the police to intervene and bring them home. Any deviation from the essential terms of the order would be considered a breach. Your only recourse for a variation of the order is either via mediation, or if your ex doesn't agree to attend mediation then you would have to refer the matter back to court.
Matt 10 Aug 2018
Hello I am In need of help. I have a Child Arrangement Order in place which I applied for . It is currently 12pm-7pm on Saturday , 10am-5pm Sunday, this is every other weekend. At the time this order was put in to place I lived near my ex wife. Due to work I have been moved to the Midlands 2 1/2 hrs away. I have applied for a change in order , which I am currently awaiting a date to return to court. Even though is stated exact times on the Order, it also says progression to overnight contact and additional contact should be encouraged/supported. I have had over night contact now for around 6/7 months all has been going well. This weekend my partner has stated that she is now adhering to the court order , she has not suggested that overnight contact will be removed , but with that statement I believe that’s her attention. I live so far away now , I have nowhere to stay in the local area to her. Therefore my plan is to take my chilldren back home and keep them overnight as usual. I do have parental responsibility as well. Can anyone advise me, she is the kind of women who will phone the police etc. Thank you anxious dad
Caz 3 Aug 2018
Court order states no consumption of alcohol. Ex breeched and got drunk last night. I need to take him back to court how much will this cost me
sam 25 Jul 2018
My step daughter's mum has accused the father of hitting his child. Police looked at the evidence and dropped the case. Social care are currently investigating the mum for making false claims, coercing the child and blackmailing her to say things against her father. As a result of all this work until it is concluded the child is not allowed to visit us and she will be missing our family holiday which we have paid for. I want to sue the mum as this is not the first time she has done this to us. For the last 3 years counting its been this cycle all to spoil our summer holidays.
Alb 13 Jul 2018
Court order in place to collect child Fri 6pm return sun 10am. Went to collect this evening as ordered mother refused. No explanation. I know child with be with her grandmother in the morning while her mother is at work. Could the police assist as I have parental responsibility? Or will I have to return to court?
Tasha 28 Jun 2018
My partner has a court order in place which is working and everything is fine with his ex. Suddenly today we received a letter from cafcass saying they are doing a fact finding and section 17. This court order was granted in April so how can cafcass suddenly try to change it? When my partner has spoken to cafcass they said that there was too cases open for them and only one has been closedhence why they can put this in place. Surley they can't stop him from seeing his kids when we have them every other weekend and extra in holidays??
Frankie 20 Jun 2018
my ex denied me seeing my 2 children on Fathers Day because i didnt let her see my Daughter on her birthday on a weekday as we already had plans to go straight to a toyshop from school and have a family gathering as they couldnt manage the weekend. she had the kids for a joint birthday party as their birthdays are a week apart and also i didnt ask see my son on his weekday as their wouldnt have been enough time before bedtime for both parents.The mum then denied me the Fathers day a week later because of this and her partner even confirmed same in a txt to me. the last 2 years i was able to see children on Fathers day as she was on mothers day even though its not on the court order. should i go to court to Vary the Order already in place to include this date as this was her argument even though she denied access out of spite? ( also i am applying for more time with children too) ?
danny 13 Jun 2018
After the final order was made ,in the order it says that my ex must encourage the children to call ,,for the 1st month it was great and when i was dropping the children of they seemed really happy ,, But then all of a sudden all contact stopped between the time i dropped them off and collect them (12 days later) I asked the children why and they said that there mum had either hidden the i-pads and phones or just simple said no to the children contacting me ,,For the last 2 drop offs after my weekend my daughter has been in tears as she knows it will be another 12 days until we speak again ,,,i have e-mailed my ex but she just ignores my e-mail`s !!! I have contacted Caffcass but as the order has been made they no longer can help It cost me over 20k to get access to my children due to the mother just stopping access for no reason ,,, What can i do ???
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Jun 2018
Unfortunately, we cannot predict what a court may decide.
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Jun 2018
Any changes to a contact order must be agreed by both parties. One party cannot unilaterally decide to change the order or apply additional terms. If they wish to do so, they will need to refer the matter back to the courts. If you both agree to change the order, then you can and do not have to get permission fromt he courts.
c.laurie 7 Jun 2018
@Rebecca .if my daughter was scared to be alone with me and had to dragged kicking and screaming just to see me and though a contact centre .I think I would let the little girl stay with the mother or who ever makes her happy .now I don't see my daughter but if it was under those conditions or she was kicking and screaming and scared of me I would let her go .give pat on the head and say darling I can see you don't want to be here and give her a couple of pounds to put in her pocket And say Buy something for your self to calm her down that gods truth .
Rebecca 7 Jun 2018
Numerous court hearings final was last october contact center always having to encourage her to go she was so upset nothing for xmas then refused to go as she was meant to be going to paternal aunts for contact but was affraid to be alone with her father away from center contact center ended as she refused to go I have since made contact with the sister who she is comfortable with the judge said it shoukd go at daughters pace c center were very co ersive now been called to attend enfircement hearing the father has stated she should be dragged kicki g and screami g aunt has stated all out of spit only littke interest in the sweetest girl in the world much more to this story but so affraid she will be hurt and damaged if forced surely this is wrong?
Glen 7 Jun 2018
Nothin related to anyone else but i was wandering if someone else has a case like mine. There was a contact order in place but then we got back together as that contact order still valid???
sparkles 30 May 2018
hi my partners ex stopped him seeing there child once they'd broke up after her numerous affairs. he took her to court. they had a court order agreed when he'd have the children she breached this 2 days after court!! every single week she sends abuse and pure nasty texts for no apparent reason. every week she says he's not having his daughter. then changes her mind last minute. he's honestly done nothing to deserve any of this she acts like she has bi polar 1 second she's overly nice then the next she's discusting towards him and makes out he's a really bad dad when he's a great dad his daughter loves him she gets upset every week because they don't want to go home. she's since made her self purposely homeless. she says the courts cant tell her what to do. how do we get her to stop and take her back to court? and stop this unfair abuse?
D 25 May 2018
Recently been to court for access to my children after me and my wife separated. There is a contact order in place. Since court my wife and I have been getting on a lot better and have realised that we still love each other and want to try and make the marriage work, where do we stand with the court order? Many Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 24 May 2018
If you go against the court order, the police will be able to return your children to the resident parent. Therefore, it is not advisable to keep your children without the other parent's consent, as this can backfire and give your ex legal ammunition to stop contact. Your only recourse would be to refer the matter back to court. However, it is rare the court will hand the children from one parent to another unless absolutely necessary. You may wish to seek legal advice.
SeparatedDads Editor 24 May 2018
I cannot advise whether the court is right or wrong in this instance. However, you can still request via the C100 and in court that the original order is enforced because access has been stopped.
Eltommo 23 May 2018
I have a court that states the children live with their mother, the children are 7 and nearly 10. The children are now desperate to stay with me and made me promise to get them back to where they consider home. I do not want to get into trouble with the courts but it has become harder and harder to return them back. My ex will not enter into any communication with me and refuses my parental rights. Eg will not give me the details of their current Doctor etc. What can I do to help my children
Sam 23 May 2018
Hi Im father and In march 2015 I got a court order for contact with my son, the order also has the warning attached. I assisted his mother on several occasions by having him extra nights, now she is asking for extra money which I have not got and she would not tell me what its for hence I refused. She has now stopped all contact with my son and blocked my phone calls. I have now in May 2018 applied for an enforcement of the order via Form C79. The courts are asking me to apply via form c100 which is a fresh application for a new order and stating they cant enforce the order because its old. Is this correct. I have been blocked access for 4 weeks now.
Shelley 20 May 2018
Hi had a final hearing February/March 2017, where they gave us a family assistance order,know my ex as stopped contact again do I need another mediation meeting to reapply for contact.
SeparatedDads Editor 11 May 2018
There is no guarantee that your husband's ex will win. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. However, the order specifies certain times and if you made arrangements prior to your husband's ex making arrangements and in his alotted time, then your husband has a good case. The court will not allow frequent requests to a change of court order unless it is deemed important.
Maz 10 May 2018
Hi, My husband and I had a 2 year battle for him to have more access to his daughter an also to prohibit his ex from moving to Poland permanently with his daughter. The Judge was in favour of my husband and so on the 5th April, he was awarded much more time and half of all the holidays. He has waited two years for this and his first half term is May coming. The court ordered he will have this May with his daughter. His ex now wants to go to a holy communion in Poland that day and a wedding on his daughter’s birthday in August (our time again). We agreed August because we don’t need to be difficult and can have the birthday any time here but May we have my brothers wedding which his daughter will be a bridesmaid and this day clashes with the communion. We explained why we can’t swap and that on the day she did want to swap we already had a hotel booked for a weekend away anyway (we have evidence). We apologised and said we simply cannot swap and she is going to the wedding. Also, it’s been 2 years and this will be the first stretch he will have had with his daughter. She has now applied to court and we have to go back next week for one day to let her argue her case! The court ordered this time with us and we have a family event which was booked and dealt with well before the court order (simply because it was always going to be our weekend). Can she do this every time she doesn’t get her own way???? Will she likely win? Thanks Marie
SeparatedDads Editor 24 Apr 2018
The situation is likely to continue as usual unless either parent wishes to challenge the arrangement or extend the order. With regards to your daughter making any decision, it depends upon how old she is. If she is an older teenager, her opinion will count more. If she is a younger child, then the primary carer will have more of a say. It's a bit of a vague question, as much depends upon the current situation and the response each parent has to the order coming to an end.
S 23 Apr 2018
Hello, there is currently a Residence Order and Contact Order for my daughter in place that will expire next month. My question is: What happens after the expiration? I assume at that point my daughter will be in charge of deciding where and how much time she spends with either parent. Also, I am curious what the options are for her mother to contest this - or try to extend the Orders (as I am fairly certain she will not be pleased they are expiring).
SeparatedDads Editor 17 Apr 2018
If you have been deported from the UK, much will depend upon how long your re-entry ban will last before you can apply to return to the UK (assuming your daughters are still in the UK). People who breach UK immigration laws and leave the UK voluntarily at the expense (directly or indirectly) of the Secretary of State are subject to two year or five year re-entry ban. You would not be allowed back into the country until the ban is lifted, making any application for direct contact to your children more difficult.
Urgent 16 Apr 2018
I was removed from UK in February 2017 and need legal advice / opinion. The latest situation is that I have been denied Direct Contact and allowed Indirect contact with my daughters by the District Judge in family court. In one of the court hearings the Judge had given remarks that she would like to wait and see the outcome of indirect contact for 12 months for allowing direct contact, but nothing has been mentioned about this in the final order. I need to appeal or should I wait and submit fresh case for Direct Contact and since I cannot afford heavy Solicitors / Barrister charges I need some legal advice as to how to proceed in my case since even the CAFCASS report has even been not considered. If need to appeal then in which court and which forms to fill and submit. Best regards and hope someone could help me out urgently.
SeparatedDads Editor 9 Apr 2018
The child arrangement order will remain in place on a permanent basis unless either parent wishes to refer the matter back to court (if circumstaces change or there a breach of the order).
Dove 8 Apr 2018
My son is 12 child arrangements order Is with father . Child left on his own accord to live with mother ... Father is not contesting... How long does child arrangements order stay in this situation ?
dave 1 Apr 2018
A question, can I access legally my daughters facebook/messanger account? she is 14 and has, after separated alleged abuse since she was 3. I feel I need to protect myself against these allegations and know there is evidence on there to disprove these allegations.
Mike 30 Mar 2018
Does any one know the procedure timeline between activation of a court hearing form to see my child and an actual court date. I’m wondering this because I don’t want to much inpact on my child in terms of time scale Thanks
Puppy 8 Feb 2018
I was served with divorce papers 3 years ago. I was in a bad place in that time. I had just left my abusive ex husband and unfortunetly got into another one. I left my 2 younger sons with their dad because I was not able to care for them until I was able to safely get away from other man.I have since gotten rid of that boyfriend and have tried to rebuild my relationship with my sons. It has been good so far but now my ex-husband is not letting my sons spend time with me? They are not in danger, they are well looked after and we love spending time together.I need to know my options? I am currently documenting everything? Tried to talk with him and implement a calendar system? I know I should get in contact with legal aid but looking for some feedback and any advice. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Jan 2018
We cannot comment upon a judge's final decision. If the judge has decided to award costs and refused an appeal, then you will be in contempt of court if you refuse to pay those costs. I advise that you accept the decision and pay the fine.
Nash 23 Jan 2018
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help as my ex recently ‘won’ costs at an enforcement hearing which it seems is very unusual and a rare occurrence? The judge awarded costs of £215 against me (being the enforcement application fee she paid) citing 2 breaches of an Order that gave me custody (out of an alleged 11 breaches over a 12 month period). Whilst these 2 ‘breaches’ (missed alternate weekend contact) were no different to a couple of other missed weekends when my son (aged 15) simply didn’t want to make the long journey to visit her (which the judge did accept was a valid reason to have not visited) and indeed when for 1 of the 2 breaches when he visited the weekend after instead (with her agreement at the time), I thought the test for an award of costs had to be for the applicant to prove a financial loss as a DIRECT result of the breach? She didn’t present any ‘direct’ evidence as there was none to present about the missed 2 weekends in question as she didn’t suffer any direct financial loss. The judge then refused permission to appeal, but are there any appeal rights I can actually exercise? Or do I wait for my ex to make an application against non-payment of the costs award and appeal that way if possible?
Little Legs 19 Dec 2017
i have a residency order in place from 21st November 2012 it states my child to be collected from nursery by his father at 12pm and returned at 3pm on a Sunday as this was many years ago now how do i go about getting it changed my son now goes to full time school and his dad works full time mon-fri 8am-5pm but my son finishes school at 3.15pm i just want addresses and the arrangements times re done so its in my current address and so it says father to have son friday any time from 3.15pm until sunday 3pm how do i go about getting this updated ?
Peacemaker 19 Dec 2017
Hi My 2 , when younger , saw their father for a few hours every Saturday My daughter was great about it and looked forward to it, and their midweek phone call. My son, however refused to talk on the phone , and kicked up a fuss when time to go out with their Dad. I said he had to till 14. He would come home and say he'd had a horrible time etc etc so Id get cross with their Dad Children are all so different. As adults we know what 'should happen' but it doesn't mean the children want to oblige Now older he has a good relationship with is both I know it's hard but your x might be telling the truth , and your son might not know why he , himself , doesn't want to go with you Some sort of conversation or letter might help but give him time and space It's hard for all parties. Children don't care whose fault a split is either. It's a very confusing time for them I really do wish you all the best and that things get sorted out x
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Dec 2017
I can only suggest you sign up for our Separated Dads forum where you will be helped by dads who have been through this sort of situation before and they can give great advice. As difficult as it may seem currently, the courts do want fathers to have a relationship with their children, and if your ex cannot provide a valid reason why you should not see your children then you will be awarded a court order which your ex will have to keep to. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child/children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. If you are awarded a court order, it will take much of the control out of your ex's hands which will hopefully benefit you. I hope this helps.
Foxy 12 Dec 2017
Hi - my ex and I have been seperated since Jan 17 and she constantly makes life difficult for me - she stopped me seeing them for two and a half months for no reason other than she got jealous that I met someone else. I paid for mediation and then we came to a resolution and I could see my children again but it's all under her rules she always changes the pick up / drop off times and makes up lies as to why I can only have them for 1 night sometimes ( I know this as I have evidence ) she keeps threatening me with a contact centre any time she sees or hears something she doesn't like and now she has stopped contact - Iv been to a solicitor and they have sent her a letter to remind her of my legal rights but I'm scared I won't see them for Christmas - I have done nothing wrong , Iv always paid baby maintenance without fail and see them every opportunity I get , she only causes me problems because she is still jealous , it's been nearly a year ! Iv seen some of these messages that say they have not seen they're kids for over a year and it's really worrying me , I feel so fed up and low , I really don't know why it's so easy for women to cause us so much pain and use our kids like a weapon it's not fair .
adz 7 Dec 2017
my partner has recently finished in court July 2017- she has a court order that states her ex should be paying extra monies over the maximum CSA allowance each month and he has not paid the first 2 months worth- he is not responding to our solicitors letters, emails etc. we cannot afford to take him back to court as he has squeezed all of our savings out of us. could we claim costs if we did go to court and could we do it so that he has to pay upfront for our court costs? what's the point in a court order if it is gong to require another trip to court when he breaches it? how to we stop this cycle before we literally cannot afford to fight him anymore? Please help us. the money is for HIS children!!!!
holyrocks 10 Nov 2017
I divorced 3 years ago. All amicable but at the point of attempting to draw up a court order my ex suffered a severed meltdown and has been battling depression. We had verbally agreed all financial matters and to this day are happy with what is proposed. I know hindsight is wonderful thing and it should have all been sorted! She is in the family home and I have since re-married and am renting. The mortgage she is paying but I have remained on mortgage so that she can bring up our girls under the roof and foster which is her main income. She is currently unable to get a mortgage on her own. I have agreed with her she can have equity in the property. I am now ready to buy and have been advised I can obtain sufficient mortgage even with name on existing mortgage. However quite rightly my new wife is uncomfortable with the liability. Is my best option to draw up a court order now which offers transfer to her with an indemnity for me against the mortgage.
RK Editor 10 Nov 2017
@jay - I'm not sure why you would not be allowed to not show the court order to anyone. But if your company is asking to see it, then show it to them. Nothing is going to happen - if you were taken to court, you could easily justify the reason why you had to show it to your boss, so you can get the time off!
Jay 9 Nov 2017
So i have a court order that has just been made and there christmas and boxing day that i am having my daughter and it states in the court order but from what it says im not allowed to show the order to anyone but my company is asking for a scanned copy of it to prove those two dates what do i do
Dad 23 Oct 2017
Hi, I have to pay full maintenance and have a court order for contact in a centre for two hours which is 90 a week I need to see my daughter but am falling behind on bills and am not aloud a variation of cost of while in the centre as my ex reports me and they can put a 20% increase on What can I do as if I don’t pay full I couldn’t get further cost but I will put sewing my daughter first
No comment 20 Oct 2017
I finished court on the 16th of December last and social services completely went against the court order and changed it to how they wanted and then told me I have to take them to court after spending 20k on a solicitor then representing myself in the final hearing as of all the false allegations what was made I need to know what forms I need to take social to court I already took my abusive ex to court over it and got an order to see my daughter
Kay 30 Sep 2017
I recently finished court in July 2017. We have a court order stating my son stays with me every other weekend and half of holidays. Which has been great. The court agreed it was for the best on both parents and my son. The dad has full custody and has always tried to control the situation. The past two weekends I haven't been able to pick my son up as his dad said he refuses to come with me but my son doesn't give me any reason why and doesn't want to talk. It's mainly his dad and his step mum that talks for him although he is 10 years old. I believe this is going against the court order but as the dad and step mum says it's my son refusing to go and they aren't stopping him although this is possibly not true I didn't know what my rights are? I travel to Burnham to see my son and he refuses to come to the door but I don't understand why. Please can someone help me. I'm confused as what to do.
Adpc 19 Sep 2017
Hi i have a court order to have regular access to my daughter witch has worked but mg daughters mother is now struggling with daughters behaviour and want me to take her full time and I'm not sure what I need to do. Do i need to see lawyer again to get this written paper. Also how do i change child tax credits over and child benefit. Thanks for any advice.
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Sep 2017
If there is a court order in place, you would have to refer the matter back to court regarding any variation you wish to apply for. As with any order to the court, it will always decide what it thinks is in your child's best interests.
GG 14 Sep 2017
My 12 year old son lives with me and is supposed to see his mum every Sunday 10-7. For the past year she is now coming either every other Sunday or every third Sunday 12-4. My son no longer wants to see her. Will a judge listen to him now and allow this to happen? Also how would I go about speaking to a judge ref the order being changed? Finally I'm being taken to court for a breach of the order (which I have evidence that I haven't) on the 16th October 2017. Any advice would be really helpful. Thanks GG
Shaz 9 Sep 2017
Hi, I have an 8 year old child who lives with me... back in 2014 a final court order was placed since then there has been many changes due to my son attending weekend arabic class... every other weekend my son goes to his father's when it comes to handing him back to me the father keeps changing the time I agree that on many occasions we both had issues were he couldn't pick his son up because of an emergency or I had something coming up like a family wedding etc since April this year things are just getting out of hand the father hands over late every time on one weekend his father has him for 2 hours tends to make it longer than 2 hours sleepover friday 6.30pm to saturday 11.30am now his decided he will hand him over at 5pm I try my best to follow the court order but as his getting older things are changing he is in year four now alot learning to do and I want my son to grow up in a healthy environment I tend to ignore the text messages his father sends me it's very upsetting always aggressive and intimidating me via text his a bully he gets what he wants all the time I am soo lost I really don't know what to do if I go to court I feel as though I won't get the support I need or won't understand my point of view I've had such bad experience in the past with the old solicitors please can someone advice me what I should do I really do not what to take this matter to court
Tap 3 Sep 2017
Hello, I have a question. I am the primary care of a 10 months old baby girl, her father pick her today up and now he told me on the phone that he won't bring her back to me because I can't afford her - that she has everything what she needs at his house - and he also said he will go tomorrow Monday to the council to get rehousing with her. I am on my own in a temporary accommodation (studio flat). We have in the moment a case process at the court (leave to remove from the jurisdiction England to Austria) He is a drug addict. But he is in the birth certificate. What can I do? Today is Sunday and I have no one in this country. Thank you in advance
D 31 Aug 2017
Hello, really need some advice, me amd my ex went to court 2 years ago, the court order lasted a year, I need to go to see my son in a contact centre and do work on my drinking, I then started seeing him unsupervised for around a year, only the last time he was down I relapsed pretty badly and ended up kicking off in a child's play area and the police where called and he was removed from me, no charges where made against me and she's stopped contact completely, I fully understand this is my own fault and I clearly need help with alcohol again which I am willing to do I was just hoping someone could tell me where I would stand in the family courts after this amd if ill ever be able to see him again, he's 8 years old. Thank you.
steph 27 Aug 2017
Hi, I really need some advice. After 3 child protections due to domestic violence and a plo when my ex was convicted for 41 months in prison for a violent offence on myself I admitted to the social (whilst on child in need after the 3 month plo process) I admitted I had a minor relapse of drinking and they forced my parents to apply ro the courts for a special guardianship order which I opposed and we got a child arrangement order instead of the SGO. This was in January and my daughter was living with my parents on a voluntary basis so I could get myself into AA and get into recovery. This Cao went through in may and I am now nearly 8 months sober. My daughter is 4 & we both desperately want to live together. When is an appropriate time to take this back to court to ammend or discharge the Cao to have my daughter come home to her mum. Advice would be much appreciated. Steph
AdamY Editor 24 Aug 2017
@Chris - 42 times that you've taken her to court for contempt of court? You're kidding. I'd complain to the courts. I do know that unless the breach is frequest of significant the court won't do anything. But 42 times, jeez!
Chris 22 Aug 2017
My son ex girlfriend never turns up for contact and she always gets of with contempt of court thts 42 so far why is this i reallt dont undetstand it
Stevo 18 Jul 2017
Hi. I have 2 boys 12 and 15. They live with their mum and I have had a court order put in place so that I can see them at weekends and some evenings in the week. My eldest is having a terrible time there and his mum has a nasty temper (non-violent but extremely threatening) I recently witnessed first hand how horrible she is to him and how upset he was. He wants to live at by house but I am worried that the court order will prohibit this. Is it his choice? She had already told him several times that she will not allow it but he wants to leave. Thanks, Steve
Mike Editor 7 Jul 2017
@Wenwoo - it would be better to take it back to court to request a variation. At least you are doing it by the book then.
justice seeker 4 Jul 2017
I am after some advice. My Partner of 3 years has had some recent contact from his ex wife (not legally divorced yet). They have 2 children together, 1 of whom turns 18 next month and the other is aged 9. He has not seen his children since he left the family home 5 years ago following the breakdown of his marriage. From my understanding the relationship of 20 years was often quite unsettled on both parts and they did not work together, plus i believe there was issues of domestic abuse. My partner has informed me he suffered years of psychological, verbal and physical torment from her and never did anything about it because no one would believe a man could experience this. His ex wife used to constantly call the police on him and state that he had been abusive for which he would be arrested but then released every time without charge as their was no evidence. Anyways she has contacted him asking to meet her alone to discuss his eldest daughters severe mental and physical ill health and to look into getting a divorce. She was adamant he could not have anyone else involved and that she had not made told anyone else she was doing this. He arranged to meet her and then she harassed him for two days with text messages warning him that he would hear lots of things he didn't want to here etc. He advised that he did not want to drag up any past just talk about the divorce terms and access to his children. all this time she would not speak to him on the phone only through SMS. He constantly reiterated the point to her above when she persisted to send woeful messages about how hard this has been for her etc. The meeting never happened due to her attitude and expectation of him driving a 14 hour round trip where it was evident that she was going to be vengeful as she had in her texts. She eventually agreed to phone him that evening, he was careful to have other people in the room to hear what was being said. She was overheard saying that he was responsible for nearly killing his daughter because of her current illness and then disconnected the call. He then asked why she would cut the call off an asked her not to contact him further unless it was through a solicitor as they would not be able to sort this between them. she became very hostile and made threats that he would never have access to their children etc as she has social services on her side and police records etc. I have looked into this and believe that i am right in thinking that as he is on the birth certificates and is married to her that he has parental responsibility and can ask for access to the children's health records, education and i presume any other records or information held about his daughter say with social services. can you advise of what the best next steps are in regards to getting access and a divorce as it is unlikely this can be sorted civilly between the two of them. it may be worth advising that the home they own together he verbally agreed to lea
Wils17 3 Jul 2017
Good afternoon Hope someone can help I have a court order in place with access to my daughter on a 50/50 basis in the order it states that no parent will stop the other parent from taking the child on holiday I have on several occasions tried to take my daughter away but any date I provide she refuses I even asked her to select the date from 2 months which would be best and she refused I'm trying to get her passport so I can at least take her away for a few days on my days and I get no response n when I do she refuses Please can any1 help I'm stuck what I can do next as going back to court is very expensive to change the court order Thanks in advance
Wenwoo 30 Jun 2017
I have x3 children aged 12, 10 and 8. My two older daughters were either refusing contact at times due to homework , starting secondary school and mental health issues. My 10 year old has been under care of cahms and doesn't have a very good relationship with her father and attends 1/7th per week. The other x2 attend 2/7th per week. This led to a contact order. At the time the panel of judges were saying that they wouldn't actually enforce a 12 year old to visit if they didn't want to. Would I need to apply for variation for the 12 year old not to have contact if they didn't want to? Or is it assumed that the contact order is no longer applied from child reaching about 12 years?
LAKS 20 Jun 2017
Hi My ex partner and I have a little boy and there is a court order in place, however recently an incident as taken place with my partner and in court it was seen as an out of character incident however I have been left with criminal records. My ex partner is saying I have to see my little boy with her until his 18 of I want to see him however that is normality for my little boy I have suggested my mother his Nan but she is having non of it. I am just seeking some advice as to where I stand.
nutbrittle 11 Jun 2017
Hi my sons ex girlfriend is pregnant and she is saying my son will never see his baby, he is 17 and she is 18 although my son is so young he wants to be in his babit's life and be a good dad (he grew up without his dad and do sent want the same for his child) she is saying she will not put his name on the birth certificate so he won't have any rights, is there any rights he will be granted or can apply for? Thank you.
Dad78 7 Jun 2017
I have a court order allowing me to see my children on a Friday 5pm until Saturday 5pm, my ex has stopped me seeing my children now since beginning of may and will not allow me to see them until I have been on a parenting course which could not be until September/October. What can I do? I can't afford more court costs after taking her to court in the past. She refused mediation and has changed her number so I cannot have any contact with my children
Bekah 3 Jun 2017
My ex partner took me to court a year ago and has had contact but keeps changing when he has him. Hes suppose to have him once a month over night stays and some months he hasnt been doing this. The summer holidays he has 14days and wants him for the whole 2 weeks i have said no itll be split into 2 lots as i dont think my son would cope that lengh of time away from me and his btother as he always asks when hes coming home when he does go. What do i do go back to court as he keep changing everything this is days and times
SeparatedDads Editor 22 May 2017
If a court has ordered you to put the father's name on the birth certificate, or this forms part of the agreement through the court, then you will be in breach of the court order if you refuse. This may be punishable if your ex has to take the matter back to court to have the order enforced. Regardless whether he is registered on the birth certificate or not, his PR status still applies.
BabyCakes 22 May 2017
Hiya my daughters dads name isn't currently on the birth certificate but he's been granted PR by the court, in court I said I'd add dad's name, but now I really don't want to, Can I change my mind or do I have to do it? He only sees my daughter 2 days a week totalling 16hrs. Does his PR only cover him these two days as appose to what it would if he was on birth certificate?
Dp777 20 May 2017
Hi, My ex and I have a court order that allows 50/50 custody on a 2-2-3 / 2-2-3 nightly pattern. This was after she stopped me having contact for almost 12 months. My eledest daughter turns 13 in 1 week and keeps sending me messages saying she hates her mother, her mother calls her names, her mother makes her depressed and bully's her. I appreciate teens will be teens. But she has said she wants to live with me full time many times now. And this weekend packed her bags. Now she is 13 and her will is to live with me how does this work if she were to just turn up on my doorstep, even despite my best efforts to advise her that she should try to resolve her issues with her mother. If she wants to live here and refuses to go to her mothers what are the implications etc? Obviously I would happily have my daughter full time and will ensure my daughter is 100% certain and that I have attempted to resolve there issues. I just cannot turn her away but am worried about breaking the court order. Many many thanks
jaffacakes 15 May 2017
My wife and I seperated two years ago, the children expressed desire to live with their mother. The Decree absolute was issued in April 17 and the court order was stated child maintenance should be payed (as it been done for last two years) for the two children to her. Since the court order, the circumstances have changed drastically and the children now live with me full time but their mother refuses to support financially the children. She stated that I had to pay her the money for the children regardless where the children were living. She got the majority of the house because she stated she had to be mortgage free and create a home for the children. Is it possible to change a court order shortly after it is issued because the circumstances change dramatically without entering into a repeat of the expensive legal process that I have been through once already.
Teary 7 May 2017
My ex and i have a court order in place that he initiated two years ago. Since having her for half the Easter half term (7th April 17) he has not brought her back. He wont let me have telephone contact with her, ( changing her phone number) he wont let me see her. He claims that she wants to live with him now and he is showering her with gifts and letting her do things that i wont allow. I have applied to the court for an enforcement order which is sceduled for June . Can the court take her from me despite the fact that im a good mum. She is 11 ....
Tracert 24 Apr 2017
Hi After 9 months of not seeing my 2 daughters due to the eldest disclosing feeling scared and intimidated by my Ex husband he applied to the court. A court order was put in place with conditions he didn't swear or speak bad about me to the children. My youngest daughter has now told me he is still doing this and telling her that I am 'grooming' her and brainwashing her. He still swears and speaks bad of me and my partner. All of the conditions in the order he is not adhering to. My youngest is now seeing a counsellor and suffering from emotional distress. She now says she doesn't want to go and gets worried. I am not sure how I get him to abide by the conditions! Please any advice would help.
Luke 19 Apr 2017
My ex wife and I have a court order in place where I get to see my children once a month I would love more but due to the distance involved of where we both live it's not possible. The court order was worded that after the first 4 months of contact being in my ex wife's home we would come to an arrangement ourselves to further the contact and the court states they expect to see a greater increase at this time. Now she has agreed that I be able to take my children out of her house and have personal time with them although she is trying to limit the amount of time I am out and who is able to accompany me on my visits. My family have not seen my daughter for over a year and a half and have never met my son. Where do I stand on taking my family members and indeed my new partner to meet my children? Bare in mind my ex has already moved my children in with her new partner without my knowledge and In fact has moved their home twice and not told me. She has breached the court order against her numerous times but I have always let it go as to not take her back to court. She seems to be trying to call all the shots when she really does not have the rights to in my eyes. I'm allowed contact with my children and as far as I'm aware when they are in my custody as long as the persons with me are not a danger to my children I can choose who they are with when I have care of them one day a month ? Any advise please.
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Apr 2017
Legally, your only option is to take the matter back to court in order to have the order enforced. Child maintenance should stop in line with when child benefit does, which is at the end of the school year when the college course finishes (officially Aug 31). Therefore, it is in your best interest to try to sort this matter out as if it rules in your favour your ex will be liable to pay arrears. If you have the original court order, perhaps a solicitor's letter outlining the agreement, the current situation and your rights should the matter be take to court, may do the trick.
John 18 Apr 2017
My youngest daughter turns 18 in my and is not in school full time. My court order does not mention any condition when support ends. What would be proper procedure?
Missintrigued 17 Apr 2017
Hi, not sure if there's any advice, but due to my ex using my tax code (long story) but I couldn't claim the little benefit I was entitled to to help me live for about 3 years, so I ended up paying 4,500 to take him to court. We settled and a court order was given that he would pay me a certain amount of money each month until my son finished full-time education. He is due to finish at the end of June and I had budgeted for this so we would be able to live when it ended. Without warning he stopped the money after the end of Feb. It's left me struggling for my son and I to live as we are renting. My sons college course is nearing an end, so he is only attending one day a week as he only has one unit to finish, my ex says that's why he has stopped paying as he is not attending fu'll time these next few months, so doesn't count as a full time college course. and I can't afford to take my ex back to court to fight this. He earns 150k a year, I earn 25k a year. Any advice as to what I should do? Thanks
becks 8 Apr 2017
my childs farther has supervised contact order this is supervised by grandparents he asked for overnight stay and then worked the night he was supposed to be with my son at his grand parents is this breech of order as grandparents ended up looking after him that night
Stiggy 30 Mar 2017
Hi I've just received a section 7 report back and extremely happy with the recommendations on contact, alternative weekends, mid week and all holidays split 50/50 - what I asked for in the initial contact order. The cafcass officer has suggested a parenting plan is done. My understanding this isn't enforceable? I am self representating and unsure what this means. Their mother and I won't be able to agree (I'm not being negative but court was my final option after 3 years of threats and the children being withheld when she didn't like something, most recently for 3 month!) has anyone been in a similar situation? How can I get an order for contact? Review hearing in 1 week! Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Mar 2017
You can apply for a variation to the initial court order. Or use a solicitor to draw up an agreement. It's always tricky where the relationship is currently amicable. However, if your ex has a residency order, then she can always demand you hand your daughter back and you would have to comply. If there was no residency order involved and you have parental responsibility, then you could refuse.
Joe 26 Mar 2017
Hello there. My ex has given me my daughter after complaints about her behaviour. She is in my home now and I am in the process of applying for new schools for her. However this is not the first time she has done this and I am worried she will take her back again. My ex has had social services involvements for a good while because of abuse in her home from her ex boyfriend, though he no longer resides there. There's been police incidents also. However she has now been discharged. We have a court order, in place for about 5 years or more, stating she has residency and I have a contact order. How can I get the residency order changed in my favour to prevent her from taking her back again? This is has happened multiple times with both my children with her kicking them out on numerous occasions because of their bad behaviour and inability to cope. I was thinking about applying to court with a c100 form but it says we have to mediation first? But if it's amicable, at the moment, do we really have to? We only would be amending an order in place for one child and not both as is on the court order. Is a cafcass parenting plan worth completing? Many thanks.
Stu 21 Mar 2017
Can someone please give advice on how to write a statement to a S37 report? I am representing myself in the family court as I cannot get Legal Aid. My children are under a new local authority care as they are on a care plan under Emotional Abuse catagory. The social worker from the previous LA has been found guilty of lying and manipulating records and cherry picking evidence to favour my ex. As a result my children have suffered emotionally and things has been reported by the school. My children lived with me for sometime until my ex decided to pay for a court proceedings. The original interim order was so strict and unfavourable for the kids that the new LA got it varied. Please, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sue 20 Mar 2017
My child's father keeps breech in the court order.He has done from day one.one of things is my child is not allowed to share a bed with any adult other than sibling.He shares a bed with a young woman and her two kids.He's done a lot more stuff aswell and verbally abusive to me all the time.I find that once a court order is in place they wash their hands of you.please can you tell me who to turn to.I'm tired of dealing with this man on my own and him getting away with everything.
Aj 8 Mar 2017
my ex has always shown up whenever he feels like it to see our child weve tried mediation which worked for about 2months then went back to how it was before where he just wouldnt turn up ans not contact me to let me know then say "slept through alarm" or "left phone somewhere". i took him to court and we got an order put in place which he stuck to for 2months until we went back to court then since that hes back to how he was doesnt turn up and can go a week without seeing our child or even contacting me. how can i get his access stopped? i feel every dad should have a right to see their child IF they can be bothered which he cant and its just going to affect our child waiting around for him to turn up then being let down
Emmy 4 Mar 2017
I've had a court order with my ex for 10 years now. My sons nearly 16 & my daughter now 14. They go every weekend as per the order. They don't want to go every weekend now & don't get on with his new wife. They say horrible things to them about me which isn't fair on them. Is there anything I can do without having to go back to court as I can't afford to take him to court. My daughter gets upset & they have turned up at my house kicking off as got plans & it's not fair to let them down. I think it should be up to them now. Help.
Daniel 2 Mar 2017
Hi there, I have a court order that allows 50% custody , I have my son every other week, the mother has to stay at her mothers when she has my son (the courts put this in place because she is not trusted with my son) I have just found out she has now moved in to a new home with her partener and she has not told me that she has moved (pick ups are still at her mums) is this a breach of the court order as she has not stuck to the court order?
SeparatedDads Editor 2 Mar 2017
Yes, with the enforcement order you would have to fill in a C4 form, which is an application for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. This means the courts can put a trace on your children to allow you to bring the matter to court. I hope this helps.
LL 1 Mar 2017
Hi I have a contact order in place and the mother has completely lost contact with me altogether. I am now seeking to apply for an enforcement order but have no means of locating my child. Please can someone help on how to go around making a further application without an address for the respondent?
SeparatedDads Editor 10 Feb 2017
You would have to take the matter back to court and ask for a variation on the order. If you have been having the children regularly, this will help your case.
RW 9 Feb 2017
I have a court order in place since I divorced. Allows me access to kids every other weekend, and holidays and Xmas to be arranged at the time. For the past 3 years at least, i have them on Wed nights too. However, this is not in the court order. As such this 'arrangement' is revoked now and again whenever something upsets my ex-wife. It only lasts a week or so, then its all back to normal. As she has just re-married, and as per what we agreed in the court order, the child maintenance payment has been reduced. She now advises me I cannot see them on Wed any longer. Is there anyway I can get this arrangement made official? How do I go about getting this court order amended to include the Wed agreement, so I know where i stand.Thanks in advance
Opieone 2 Feb 2017
Hi, I've had a court order for contact with my now 14 year old daughter, she has always said she wants to live with me and has been waiting to become 16 so she can move in, as believe that she can do that then without going back to court. Her life would be made a misery if she had to live at her mum's while it all went through the courts. I'd this thinking correct, or can she simply stay here full time even though I have a court order for specific. She is also seeing someone from social services because of her treatment from her mum. Can she simply live with me without going to court or move in here and then go back to court while she lives here?
Nr 2 Feb 2017
I have a court order and I've had it over a year now and it's never been adhered to she's always breaching it. She said the court order means nothing and to take her back to court. I should have my son Tuesday and Friday night and all day Saturday. I should have him in the 6 weeks holiday too. But now she's saying I can't see him because her csa has gone down. She's blocked my number so I can't contact her or my son. I don't know what to do I can't afford to go back to court as my wife is on maternity. Can't belive our law system where there's nothing for fathers rights.
JOwen Editor 9 Jan 2017
@Burt - It is very much worth continuing to take the matter through court as your ex can only run for so long. She's wasting the court's time and the fact she has moved without your consent (if you have PR), is also flouting the law. The courts can inflict a prison sentence or fine a person if they continue to be in 'contempt'. So keep going buddy, you'll get your access in the end if Cafcass has recommended it. The courts can even make an order to bring your ex back to the area if they choose. You have the upper hand here, so keep on with the good fight. Jem.
Burt 8 Jan 2017
My ex walked out on me an my 3 children last year she took me to court just for access, I agreed with cafcas for the arrangement order and last June she ran away with the children, over 60 miles moved my children's school, house, everything they know! It is all going through court but she has breached the order and now not turned up to court twice, this will be the 3rd time she doesn't show if she doesn't turn up on the 24th of Jan. What will be the outcome if she keeps repeating this?
bob 25 Dec 2016
I have a final court order in place. I went to pick my son up christmas day at the court ordered time 3pm. He was not made available. This was a clear breach. What normally should happen from here will the court do something about this?
Aaron 24 Dec 2016
I'm speechless, I can't even be bothered to say what I've been through, I have my court hearing on the 20th of January, "(The law is a joke for the dad's )"
sausage party 21 Dec 2016
My consent order is 5 years old. I agreed to pay a certain amount monthly based on the fact that my ex had custody and I had access. However since then I now have our child on a joint custody basis but I still pay money to my ex. She will not allow me to pay less as she says I would be in breach of the order. also part of the order says that the order is only enforceable until the former joint property was sold, which it now has. I believe I should now pay no money to my ex at all based on the 50/50 split on access. How do i change the order? thanks, STuart.
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Dec 2016
A solicitor's letter outlining the details of the original court order and your ex's refusal to work with you in trying to extend access may help. The letter could suggest that you attend mediation in order to come to a mutual resolution. It is sometimes worth paying the money for this, as it will give written evidence the court (if you need to take the matter back there), that you are being fair, but also you desire more time with your child and think it is in your child's best interests to develop your relationship further (as recommended by the original court order). I hope this helps.
Sad-Mummy 13 Dec 2016
Hi, I have a contact order with my ex partner for our daughter. When we were in court last 2 years ago, her Barrister advised that the order was just a starting point and that we would be able to work together to give me more time. I had been the stay at home parent at the time, but because of my ex hadn't seen our daughter for 7 months, so I agreed. How ever I only get 2 hours every Wednesday and a full Weekend fortnightly. My ex has planned activities on the Wednesdays and every Saturday, which I take Part in for our daughter. However my daughter has been asking for the last year for more time with me and for the last 2 months been very tearful about it. We have talked and she said she would like to now stay over on a Wednesday and the Sunday of my weekends, I have emailed my ex-partner and put this to her 3 times and she has said no. Last Wednesdays my daughter had a proper melt down and I feel that for both of us we need more time. I need to draft a letter/email, but I am unsure as to what I need to put into it and how to ask so that she is aware that if she says no again I will be going back to court to seek more time and putting in a time for her to respond by. I think if it does end up in court I would have to apply for a variance to the order, its just getting there and writing a good email that I am struggling with.
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Dec 2016
I think in this case I would seek some legal advice before you apply to court as much depends upon your ex's financial means. If your ex has avoided paying whilst having an income, then you may have a case. If your ex hasn't paid i.e because he has been unemployed, then there would be little you could do in order to pursue the claim.
Pip9901 11 Dec 2016
My ex and I have a court order in place, which has never been adhered to finicially and later on the access was not adhered yo either. My court order is approx 10 yrs old. Am I able to go back to court for non payment of child maintenance or I have left it too late? My children are now 17 &15.
Sparkle 8 Dec 2016
Hi me & my ex have a court order for our daughter. Over the course of seven years it's been a nightmare. He's always blamed me for everything & even after our daughter said she doesn't like sleepin at her dads the courts & cafcass say she must. I've never been obstructivery and encouraged her. However recently she's told me that her dad has said if she says anything to anyone about him she will have to live with him permanently which of course has upset her and she's frightened to say anything cause he's told her he will find out and she will live with him. He said she won't like that so has to not say anything. She gets upset when going and whilst she's with him. Please can you advise
ray6666 2 Dec 2016
Hi ive been having my daughter for 2 years now having her once in week stay over after school and taking her to school and one over night stay at weekend this happens every week contact broke down when she was 2 and i didnt see her for three years now that ive been seeing her for two and a half years we have a solid relationship and she has a stable routine now my ex has said she want my daighter not to see me anymore will a court give me the contact back in writing that i had
Haggis 24 Nov 2016
A court order was given specifying Saturday night overnights with me. Before the date of the first overnight had even been reached, my ex and I mutually agreed to change this to Friday nights. This mutual agreement was confirmed by her lawyer ( I had none). She now wishes to change back unilaterally to Fridays, and her lawyer claims that if the mutually agreed amendment has "broken down" I am legally obliged to accept a reversion to the "fallback" default of the court order. Is this legal fact?
Jlop 18 Nov 2016
Hi, i have divorce my ex... and since separated she has been so difficult with the tine that i spend with my two boys... we came to a sort of agreement with a mediator to have the kids collected from school once a week and return them at 6, wich i find absolutely poor, as by the time they finish ah their tea i have to take them to her.. and we also agree to have them overnight every two weeks in a saturday night... we also agreed to a phone call 3 times a week at 5pm...wich all of this was a better deal than vefore when i was having to see them once a week for 2 hours and i couldbt take them to my home and also she wouldnt allow me to be by myself with them..... to all of this, she always has the last word, so when i call my kids she wouldn't answer or she would distract them i cant speak properly with them, she always demands things but i don't get my rights with my kids... why do i just need to follow everything that she says but i get no saying into my kids... or better quality time with them??!!!
clinton 14 Nov 2016
Can anyone advise me please? Contact arrangements were set by the court for 2016 but for 2017. my ex wants to change them. This will be a breach of the order. Can I write to the court now (C79 Enforcement Procedure) saying that this is what she wants to do, or do I have to wait until an actual breach of the order takes place in spring next year? peter
Random1234 31 Oct 2016
I have a court order in place for my son. I have taken his mother to court twice due to her constantly breaking it. I told her and the court that we was moving to Cambridge and I have to provide an address when known. Anyways this past weekend we went to Cambridge and I told her on the friday that she would need to collect my son from Cambridge and she declined and refused to travel their. Instead picking going out and getting drunk over traveling to pick our son up. The court order is I pick him up at the start of the school holiday and she collects him at the end of the school holiday. My partner is pregnant so it delayed moving as she has been bleeding and she works and her kids attend school and I also work. We have to work around our current commitments and visit cambridge for houses jobs etc when we are all off work and school and this means I have my son with me. I let his mother know with 48 hours notice of why we are here and new collection and she declined to come and pick him up. She then went ro my house in my current town and said she had rang the police and courts would be in touch tomorrow (monday) and shes changing the court order and ive broken the court order and then went on to threaten me, got personal saying she wants him to be nit free and healthy (he eats well and never has nits) mother senda him in clothes to small for him, nits and bad attitude and he stinks of cigarette smoke etc. Shes even gone as far as saying my partner kids give my child infections. Anyways she has been nothing but personal and difficult. I want to know who is in the wrong. Am I in the wrong for coming here when I want to move here and before the baby is born and she knows this or is she in the wrong for refusing to collect him and having enough notice to change her plans. I had to change my plans and come back to my current town as she sais that is where she is and then changed it to I drop him home (dorset) I offered her mutiple times to meet and hand him over so I could return back to Cambridge and she continued to refuse. He has now missed school today because she has refused to get him and is blaming me and saying im facing a fine, community service or prison. I have a vaild reason for being in Cambridge and I gave her notice so who is actually in the wrong and what do I do if she carries on refusing to collect him and he stays with me. I don't want to lose seeing my son over this. Please help
Lou 29 Oct 2016
Hi what happens if one parent has a supervised contact order for the other parent and they brake the court order by allowing the other parent to have child overnight unsupervised ?
ljd 5 Oct 2016
I have previously been to court and in the negotiations beforehand with the solicitor my ex partner agreed to double barrelled my lo surname so this was not put in court order. my ex is now refusing to to sign the form were do I stand with this please help
keentoresolve 27 Sep 2016
Hi there, Have an order in place for my 3 year old that states to spend every other weekend with his father. Father recently changed from a mon-fri job to shift work on lower pay, as this better fits in with his living arrangements now that he has a new child. This has not only significantly dropped the maintenance he pays for our son, but means that most of his weekends, he is in the care of his step mum (who I have never met) instead of dad. I also work mon - fri, so effectively feel I am sacrificing time to someone who does not have parental rights over our son. I also have concerns about him spending so much time in her care as his father has previously told me that she is passive aggressive towards our boy due to jealousy issues about him having a child with someone else... I have asked him to be forthright about his shift pattern so that we can arrange contact on weekends when he is not working - but for unknown reasons he is not agreeable to this. I have asked him to reconsider arrangements for Christmas day (order states to swap but for various reasons I don't think this best suits our son), which he originally verbally agreed to, but now won't commit to in writing... I have been flexible a number of times to accommodate his working hours (dropping off/picking up etc) but now feel I have been duped. I am unsure as to whether it would be worth taking the matter back to court to have arrangements re: Christmas altered and also whether I can have a minimum amount ordered for him to pay in maintenance (he has dropped it twice in the last year by voluntarily taking lower paid jobs). Any advice on my situation is gratefully received.
Mastergamer 18 Sep 2016
I have court next week and received my ex's parental questionnaire in the post today , the first 4 box's on the first page of the questionnaire was filled out by my ex but the rest of the form was filled out from recognizing the writing of my 15 yr old daughter.My ex has signed and dated it themselves and nowhere does it state on the form that its not being completed by my ex..... its a legal form i didn't think it would be allowed to be filled out by my 15 yr old daughter . Do i inform the court about this , as my ex has been emotionally brainwashing my daughter against me and even brought her to court and made her wait outside and bring coffee to them whilst we waited to go into court. Any help would be appreciated.
#downriver.... 13 Sep 2016
Ray you have any luck I'm just gone to collect my son and mother picked him up at half 2, on my day in the court order.
Tee 12 Aug 2016
Can somebody help me please??? I've been representing myself for years and have been battling in court for nearly 6 years. The last time we went to court, the judge ordered that we can’t make an application to court for 2 years as our conflict is abusing the children emotionally. He warned that if this was to continue, our children would be taken into care. She has breached the order 3 times in 2 months and I've had to register my complaint with the police to get a cad number. CAFCASS were supposed to keep watch, but they did nothing and they closed the case after 8 months. Now my ex breaches the order at will and often gives me an hour or 2 notice that contact won’t take place. She keeps them for any reason she can come up with and never offers an alternative for me to see them. She is not allowing my alternate weekend to commence on a Friday as she has put my youngest son in a football team on Saturday mornings in Southend without my consent, I live in North London. I also have 50% shared holidays and the last 3 weeks of summer, but she has divided our summer holiday into 3 sections and gave me 1 days’ notice that I was to have them for the 1st weekend at the start of summer. I obviously couldn't make it as I was away. Her arrangement means I have to travel up to 11 hours and 600 miles going back and forth needlessly. Now she is refusing to allow my youngest son to come in the summer holiday, saying that he wants to stay home and study for his 11 plus exams. He may come next week only if he feels that he has revised enough? He's 10 and going into year 6 and I've not seen or spoke to either of my boys for 4 - 5 weeks. I was so looking forward to doing something nice with them, now I'm not sure when I'll see them which has ruined my whole summer. The court order doesn't mean a thing and never has as I have never got what it says on them ever. She does as she pleases with no consequences and I have lost so much contact over the years with my kids, yet I have a penal notice attached if I keep them or breach the order. I can't take it anymore, I just don't have any peace with my children... There's always some form of conflict whenever I'm due to have them. The uncertainty and worry I have is immense, I can’t make plans or book anything, I never know if I’ll see them or get to have my time with them, it’s just ruining me and the opportunities I have to parent my children. I need to go back to court with representation, but I’m worried I won’t get my costs back as I can’t afford a solicitor or barrister. What am I to do????
Chris 29 Jul 2016
We have had a Child Arrangement Order in place since December 2014. The Term time arrangements work well and we both abide by them. I have the children once a week overnight and alternate weekends after school Friday to the start of school Monday. The holidays though, in particular the summer one, are proving problematic. The Order requires that we split them equally and we work to agree the split between us. My ex isn't particularly cooperative to letting this happen. Last year I proposed dates to her a month in advance, she never responded. I send reminders and eventually a week before the start of the holidays she send rejected all my proposed dates out of hand. By this time it was too late to make arrangements. This year I was a little more organised. I proposed a split 3-months in advance of the start date. Again no response so again I sent reminders. She acknowledged receipt and promised a response but never got around to it. After a month she finally responded agreeing in principle to the dates with a couple of amendments to accommodate the holiday she'd already booked (without first discussing with me even though it cut included my normal weekend). I confirmed the now supposedly agreed dates back to her and started making arrangements for the holiday. Then one week ago, 2-days before the start of the holidays and after 2-months of silence she writes to me changing all the dates which she now claims were only a proposal and never agreed. I still have half the holidays but all the arrangements I had made around the children, including time away with them has been thrown out the window. I have told her that this is not acceptable and her response is simply tough. The underlying reason seems to be that I have new partner and she does not want them to spend time with the children, she's realised there is little she can do about it so has decided to punish me another way. I guess I am just going to have to live with it this year. I will not be massively out of pocket but I am extremely annoyed that all the holiday plan I have made with the children are out the window despite doing my best to be reasonable and trying to work with her to agree dates early. How can I prevent this in future???? Advice - an enforcement order (after all the dates were agreed), seek to amend the arrangement order to define the default holiday split if we are unable to reach agreement????
Mcoxon 27 Jul 2016
Hi my name is mark right heea I go wot it is I had full custeardy of my kids be for I had went to jail the rezzing y I had went to jail for cos I had cracked up cos to of my family member had dasd of Cancer well I had to go to cort 1 day so I wos driving to cort which I wos a band driver so I had tuck chays that's y I had went to jail for soo my ex had my kids bk so wen I had been in she cud not hanil them so she had put them in car wen I wos in jail for driveng so wen I wos in I had DID NOT been assessed for is wen I wos in so wen I wos at and end of my sentence that all reddy wos going frow cort wen I wos in jail so i need sum own to talk to sum own to to explain the full storry cos I need help to get my baby's back plz
Gail 15 Jul 2016
I would like to know, if the divorce order states I need to pay half travelling costs and I don't what will happen? Bear in mind I am a single mom of two and don't have any spare cash. My ex partner is only paying maintenance and not for school fees. I have recently approached a lawyer to fight for outstanding school fees since 2009 to date which is 2016. He has become very nasty and told me to tell my son that he will not see him until I pay half travelling costs. I feel that he is been wrong cause he is punishing my son. What can I do?
Ro 12 Jul 2016
My friend went out with a violent man .when she finally left him he got his friends finding social services saying she was a drug addict.so the child was taken to his grandmother house .then the court cases started . The judge order drug tssts and courses before her son would be returned . She smoked cannabis not around her son that was all . The drug tests proved that the accusation was false and she gave up cannabis. She has done all the courses that the judge ordered but the social services are not keeping to the court orders .name the grandmother does not want to return the grandson
Mr GreatDad 5 Jul 2016
Recently won a court order in my favour. Have my child 3-5days a week. Now my ex has decided to take my child on holiday for a month without telling me any information (my child told me). Now I personally think my ex is doing this out of spite as she intends to take her away in the summer holidays, which will result in me spending no time with my child. I intend to go court to block this as i feel a month is far too long and my ex partner is giving me no information Into where they are going etc. For all I know she may not come back. Would this be the right thing to do?
Ray 1 Jul 2016
I have a court order to collect my Son on a Friday after school every other weekend. today the school allowed the mother to collect him at 2:15 an hour early to take him to a dentist appointment. They were aware it was my day to collect him and are aware that they must follow the court order. Has the school breached the court order by releasing my son to the mother knowing they should have released him to me. What can I do about it as if the school have breached the court order I will need to contact the relevant people. Who would I contact to advise the school are in breach
hanz 1 Jul 2016
Have a court order starting with supervised contact, then day on my own then overnight stays.overnights due to start in August so my daughter can stay during summer holidays.however due to length of time I had to wait to start supervised contact the time line set out in order is now out of sync but a new order has not been made.basically in august I will only be on days on my own access but do I have legal right to demand august stay as its in order and there has been no ammendment made plus its not my fault contact centre had such a long waiting list
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Jun 2016
In this case I suggest it is worth seeking legal advice from a solicitor, who will advise you further on your options and whether he/she thinks you have a case to breach the court order.
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Jun 2016
Just to clarify that your husband hasn't 'taken out a court order' - the court will have weighed up both sides of the story and come to a conclusion on what it thinks is in the best interests of your children and issued the order on this basis. I can completely empathise with the difficulty of your situation, but unfortunately if your ex is sticking rigidly to the court order, there is little you can do to personally oppose this. Any changes to a contact order must be agreed by both parties i.e one party cannot unilaterally decide to change the order or apply additional terms. If they wish to do so, they will need to refer the matter back to the courts. I can only suggest you seek legal advice about whether you can apply to the courts for a Specific Issue Order, However, you would have to apply quickly as it will take time for the matter to come to court and this may eat into the summer holiday time that you are applying to spend with your children. What I do advise is not to go against the wishes of the order, as this could give your ex the ammunition to accuse you of a breach of the order. I hope this helps.
Herbie 14 Jun 2016
My ex husband has taken out a court order to allow him as main residence and me to only have every other weekend and every weds night. The hearing is in September but the order stands until then. There are no times stated in the order and I usually collect and drop off at school. I have contacted him about school holidays and he is saying I cannot collect until 3pm and must drop back in the mornings. I feel this is crazy and he is simply continuing to be vindictive towards me at the cost of the children. He is a very manipulative and controlling man and this is why I left him. I was the main carer for the children until we separated 2 yrs ago and I cannot believe that it has come to this (I don't do drugs, have no criminal record and I live in my own house, totally self sufficient with no financial support from him). Has he the right to do this, surely common sense would state I should be able to collect early in the holidays?
TG 4 Jun 2016
Hi, my husband obtained a court order for access and it has been running for about 2years now, obviously there has been a few hiccups with communicating with his ex partner but the contact order dates and times have stayed unless they both mutually agreed to change a time or date. His ex has always used the 2children as a weapon against my husband to emotional hurt him and in the process really hurting the children. We're as the youngests behaviour towards his mother is getting extreme. She is also trying to use this behaviour to state that the child is mentally disturbed and has medical issues but when he is in our care there are no issues except for normal 4 year old behaviour, an example would be he can fully use the toilet but recently started having accidents as to not be left out of what was happening at the time like a game, her solution is to put him back in pull ups!! Due to pure laziness on of the mother. Our solution was to re assure him that whatever it is we're doing will stop and wait for him and he is a big boy and we are proud of him for using the toilet, our way when with us there has been no accidents, I just one example and the mother is on strong medication for sleep, anxiety, stress but also drinks daily. The 6year old mentioned this in just a normal convo 'mummy acts not very nice and weird when she drinks dirty beer' 4year old whispers to my husband 'were aloud to have some dirty beer' things like this amounts to a number of other concerns we have. She has always tried to use their children to break me and my husband apart out of pure jelousy. We have and myself through everything she has tried to achieve with breaking us apart have offered genuine support for her for the children help in every way and it has all been refused by her. She has also asked numerous occasions for us to have the children more than 2weeks for a number of reasons that are untrue, also setting up in a large public places to start to shout and cause arguments with my husband in front of children (happened on a few occasions) And now she has decided to keep the children away and go against the court order stating she is listening to her 6year old and she doesn't want to see her dad or come to our home, we know this is not the case and we see how much it is hurting the children there mother manipulating them and no reasons behind not letting them see their dad. With a number of ongoing concerns for the children's emotional and well being, and to permanatly stop this 'I'm in control 'attitude we need to do something fast before it gets worse and the mother effects the children anymore. What are the best steps to take?
SeparatedDads Editor 3 Jun 2016
If your ex and you cannot sort this issue out between you, you could suggest mediation. Please see link: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. Any arrangement will then have to be verified by the court which protects your interests. However, if mediation breaks down, then you would have to take the matter back to court in order to get a variation.
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Maggie 2 Jun 2016
Hi, my ex took me to court and gained a court order to have our son every weekend starting on a Friday evening. I work 12 hour shifts and he is very unreliable at picking up on the time I give him. When I am at work for 2 weekends of a month he needs to be collected by6pm but because of his new job has started saying this isn't always possible. Sometimes he leaves it till the night before my shift to tell me which means I am in a really bad situation to try and arrange suitable care for our son. A time wasn't set out in the agreement but he finds making it my problem funny and doesn't care about the stress and strain it puts on me. What can I do as I am sick of this it's driving me literally to the edge.
SeparatedDads Editor 31 May 2016
I am sorry to hear this. Much depends upon whether your ex is just messy, or whether your children are suffering from neglect as a result. Have you spoken directly to your ex to see whether you can take on more responsibility? The direct approach may be an option that she may welcome if she is unable to cope. If your ex is unresponsive to this, or to mediation which you could also suggest to try and sort the issue out if you can't agree, then you may wish to seek advice from a legal professional who can advise whether you should apply for a child arrangement order. However, please be aware the courts will only remove children from their primary carer if absolutely necesssary. You can see what defines 'neglect' whichIt will also tell you what you can do if this applies to your children.
Daddy 30 May 2016
Hi I've been separated from my ex wife now for 2 years she isn't looking after the my two kid properly the house is a mess all the time they are not clean and it's killing me to see them like this I see them every week I want to take them there is no court order between use its just a civil agreement that we came to when I left that I see them weekly I've started writing down all the problems with the property and my children's living conditions I want to know what court order can I put against her if I just go and take them and not take them back because I want to give them a better life than they have it's not fair on them just need some advise
SeparatedDads Editor 27 May 2016
If you are paying child maintenance you may be able to get a special expenses variation to incorporate the cost of travel if your ex will not meet you halfway, You may also wish to seek legal advice on whether taking your ex to court is an option and/or perhaps suggest mediation to her as a way of trying to resolve the issue if you can't agree.
Jay 26 May 2016
Hi me and my ex partner have been civil for a while after the court proceedings but she has moved to Norwich and I live in Essex so it's taking me 5 hours to drive up There and back and then the same on Sunday when I take him home ,as I have him alternative weekends. I ask if she could meet me half way because it cost almost £200 every two weeks she said she can't afford it plus she has panic attacks so she can't travel alone. I want to take her back to court but not sure if this will make her start meeting me half way. So confused on what to do?
SeparatedDads Editor 25 May 2016
If you had a court order for your ex to pay child maintenance and he didn't then you would have to take the matter back to court to have the order enforced, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. If you/the courts can prove your ex was earning and not paying you at the time, then you may be entitled to back pay for the time he has had an income. However, if you are not classified as the main carer currently, then I should see legal advice about whether you have a case.
mimi 25 May 2016
hi,i was married for five years and currently been divorced for four years, after the divorce was made decree my ex was ordered by the court to pay child maintance of 300 hundreds pounds a month until my daughter is 18years of age he only paid for 1 year then refused to pay citing that he was not in full time work which was a lie, he works 5 days a week, recieves rent from 2 of his houses and pension. when i talked to him about the payments the result was a big row and he ended up taking me to the child support group claiming that he is the main carer for my daughter? i counter claimed this but the child support agencies were not supporting me because they said that the person who claims child benefit is the main carer as a rule despite i have my daughter 4 days a week? now they told me that they do not get involved with the court order in place and it is up to me to take hm back to court. he has made sure that i do not have quality time with my daughter because he is always arranging activities awy without my decision too which he thinks it is okay and we always argue because of this. where do i stand with all this?
SeparatedDads Editor 20 May 2016
Your brother should definitely try to legally re-arrange a time other than a Tuesday that fits in with the court order as if he doesn't adhere to the court order he will be in breach which may give his ex extra ammunition, Therefore your brother needs to be seen to be keeping within the law. If his ex doesn't consent to an alternative time, then he can suggest mediation and if she refuses he may be able to apply back through the courts. It is unlikely he would be able to appeal the terms of the original court once decided.
Rach 19 May 2016
Hi there, my brother has been going back and form to court and has recently gone back to take his ex -partner back as she was breaching the court agreement. However since bringing her back my brother has also asked for and extra day on his contact. Before the court hearings, his partner has claimed false allegations which was investigated by the Police and there was no follow up with no further actions which enabled her to go for free legal aid for her representation in court. When my brother went back the last hearing took 2 hours for each parties to put across their views and his ex had a solicitor representing her. My brother represented himself which he has done very well, nevertheless at the last hearing the judge took his ex's point of views more onboard than his, whether that was done to having a solicitor. This has resulted in the judge actually reduced his days which did involve him having him over night in the week picking him up from school. The judge has decided on alternative weekends where he will only have him for a full weekend every 2 weeks and only a few hours in the week after school till 6pm. Can he appeal this decision, and would it be best to write to her solicitor as he is starting a new job and therefore on a Tuesday wouldn't even be able to see his son. Unfortunately his ex probably wouldn't agree to this as she was the one that purpose this contact. My brother is devastated as for the past 2 years going back and forth from court he has had regular contact except for the days she has breached it. If anyone can help me or make suggestions on what steps we should take that would be much appreciated.
saira 18 May 2016
Sorry I mean unsupervised contact because after 3 sessions it will moved to unsupervised contact.
Saira 18 May 2016
I have court order for my ex partner to have access to the kids 5 years n 2 years. It was domestic violence. Judge still given in his favour now 3 more supervised contact n than unsupervised contact. Now I came to know his ex girlfriend that how court was sending kids to foster home n begging her to marry him so he can save the kids. And plus he is still legally married to me we arw not divorced yet n on top of that he said to her he got married to polish girl to save the kids as his x didnt agree to marry him. She sent me the screen shots of the conversation where he said clearly he won the kids custody and how my kids are taken away from me n all. By the way he is been telling everything I am quite worried his mental state is not right otherwise who would come up with sucha statements. Now thats really making me worried that he might harm my kids and lie to them abt things when supervised contact start. Please tell me what I should do in this case as the last court hearing finished yesterday.
SeparatedDads Editor 3 May 2016
If you are concerned about the welfare of your child, despite the fact there is a court order in place, I would seek legal advice regarding this. If your ex has breached the order by drinking, then you can withold access if you feel your daughter is unsafe in his care.
Tri 2 May 2016
Hi, A court order has been put in place since a year ago January. My ex and I do not speak as a restraining order is in place but our 5 year old daughter has regular visits to her dad (one day every other weekend & an overnight stay every other weekend) part of the order was that he was not to touch alcohol the night before & during having our child, she told me that daddy was drinking mucky wine in his friends kitchen & fell down the stairs (on her overnight stay) and today she's told me that daddy's friend has guns, 3 of them, he was showing daddy in the kitchen and sells them! I'm furious & so worried, she's an innocent little girl & im not in a position to protect her from these kinds of things that he's doing whilst he's meant to be caring for her. If I pass on a message would he start telling her to keep secrets or start treating her differently. Please advise?? I represented myself in court & whatever I said fell on deaf ears. Thanks in advance Tri
SeparatedDads Editor 21 Apr 2016
Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here which will tell you some flexibility can be allowed in the court order, but both parents have to agree. If your ex says she will make the time up to you on a different day, then it may be considered petty by the courts for you not to allow this.
andy88 20 Apr 2016
Hi my ex wants to take our daughter on holiday for 4days. I have a contact order saying she has to make her available to me every Wednesday. Yet she wants to take her in my contact time where she could take her on the days I don't have her. Would it be worth taking this to court as a breach. Ty in advance
SeparatedDads Editor 20 Apr 2016
If her solicitor advised your ex to breach the court order it will have less of an effect than if your ex breached the order deliberately and flagrantly. However, this will be looked into and if the courts think your ex is fabricating the safeguading issues, then it will act accordingly to have the order reinstated, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do
db 19 Apr 2016
Iv had a contact arrangment order for 16 months including overnight stay every other weekend, the last 2 times i was due to have my daughter my ex wasnt at home and breached the order. I have since recieved a letter from her solicitor telling me she has breached the order cus she has safe guarding issues stating that after my child has had contact with me she returns home in a distressed mood. I strongly dispute this. I have filed an application to enforce the order. If the court enforce the order will they still punish her for the breach even if her solicitor advised her to breach?
Sazza 18 Apr 2016
What happens if my partner has a court order to see his children Saturday 10 am till Sunday 10am and he wanted to drop having them overnight , we have been more flexible and said wer willing to have them till 8/9 ?
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Apr 2016
If your ex has reneged on the court order you can apply to have it enforced, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. I suggest in the first instance you get a solicitor to pen a letter reminding your ex of her obligations and that you wish to set up contact with your son. If she ignores this, then you will have to refer the matter back to the courts. It is worth continuing with this as the court do not condone those who commit contempt of court. I hope this helps.
mad 18 Apr 2016
Hi . I started court proceedings last june . In November i was granted access with my 5yr old son . Contact centre first visit was 18th march . When i got there the ex had told the centre that my son hates me and wont get out of the car . Where do i go from here .who do i contact now
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Apr 2016
If the case has been recorded, you are entitled to apply to the reporting firm for a transcript (for which the reporting firm makes a commercial charge) provided you have obtained permission from the court concerned. Please see Unlock which
JULEZ51 13 Apr 2016
is it possible to apply for court transcripts of a finding of fact hearing under the freedom of information act because we have evidence in recorded meetings with social workers that they have lied under oath.
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Apr 2016
This is a tricky one to answer as I assume both of you have financial problems currently, therefore your circumstances have changed. While you are theoretically breaching the court order by not picking them up, a court would look at the reasons before enforcing any order. For instance, if you don't live far away then picking them up should not impact upon you financially therefore could be seen as a breach. However, if you live an hour away, then wanting a compromise is understandable and there is some room for give and take in a court order, as long as both parties agree. Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here which will highlight to you what is a breach and what is not a breach. I hope this helps.
Ricky 11 Apr 2016
I am a single Father to my 8 year old daughter, I was awarded full residency in 2015. In court contact was arranged for overnight stay on alternative weekends and telephone calls between my Daughter and her Mother and shared school holidays etc. Contact has been irregular and now stopped completely (Mothers own choice) She has now breached the order on many occasions including access at weekends and telephone calls, what can be done to pursue this as I think it's in my Daughters best interest to still have contact. I work full time and support my Daughter with all her needs financially and it seems as Mum is unemployed she will only have to pay approx. £7 a week (Child Support Arrangements Dec 2015). I have never received or been offered any support for over two years, but has a Fab lifestyle !! Many thanks
janey 11 Apr 2016
Hi I've have a court order for 6 years giving my ex regular contact with my children. In October he lost his job and I lost any maintenance payments since. Being on my own , work part time between school runs and the usual bills and mortgage money is tight . My ex sees them every other weekend , one night in the week and two night the next week, alternating. The court order states I pick them up in the morning after he has had them , I requested as money is very tight for him to drop the children back home by 8am the next morning before school or just have them for tea. He has said no to this so he now doesn't have them at all during the week. This has gone on for a month . As I have by text and verbally asked him if he could drop them home or have them for tea am I breaching the court order by not picking them up in the morning ? I have never said he cant have them . Thankyou for reading .
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Apr 2016
Did you know you can self-litigate? Please see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, here . Many fathers are having good success this way and it cuts out the legal fees. Also, did you know if your husband has PR over his child, his ex should have requested your husband's consent to move from the area? I suggest you get the ball rolling ASAP as if she has breached the court order he will need to make sure it is enforced, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Apr 2016
As your child is 13, the courts will take on board your child's opinions and who she/he prefers to live with and will rule on what it thinks is in your child's best interests. I can't predict what the courts may decide, but you stand a good chance of acquiring residency if you can provide a good home and have had regular contact with your child.
SB 8 Apr 2016
My husband has not seen his children from his ex since November 2015, a court order was put in place and she decided with her new partner to move hundreds of miles away and limits the phone contact. We are trying to save the money back up to take it back into court but were still paying off the costs from the last time and are only now in a position to do so. Will this go against my husband in court, his ex has majorly breached the contact order.
Dad2002 7 Apr 2016
Hi, my child has asked to live with me. An I have been threatened with court by my ex. Social services are involved in the family where they live an they have a report on my ex.they have been helping my child with support but they see my child isn't happy where they live and put me in touch with nyas. What will happen if I'm taken to court an my child still wants to live with me. Child is almost 13.
petrolph15 25 Mar 2016
Hi Last year my ex wife and I went to court and agreed the terms of our financial arrangements. In August 2015 she was supposed to cash in her pension and pay a mortgage off and also a joint loan which is over 20k. We are now nearly in April 2016 and she still has not done this. What can i do???? It did state on the court order that if she did not fulfill her end of the deal she could be sent to prison. Please help
SeparatedDads Editor 23 Mar 2016
Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here which tells you, 'the courts' guidance states that unless a breach is regular and intentional, they will not usually take action to enforce the order or punish the breach. Further it is important to consider the needs of your child first and so some flexibility may be needed on occasion.'
DS 22 Mar 2016
Good afternoon. I am looking for some advice please. I have a court order in place to see my children every other weekend. My ex agreed that I could change a weekend as I am going away with my fiancée. I have given her 8 weeks notice in writing. She has now decided that I cannot go and has advised if I do, she will take me back to court and contact will be stopped. She also threatens me with court on a weekly basis. This will be for things such as not taking my son to activities that she has planned (I live an hours drive away.) Any advice would be gratefully appreciated. I feel I need to know my rights as she is forever using the children as a weapon against me.
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Mar 2016
Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. His ex should ensure the contact is adhered to, if not then he can threaten to take your ex back to court to have it enforced. As specified in the article, any changes to a contact order must be agreed by both parties. One party cannot unilaterally decide to change the order or apply additional terms. If they wish to do so, they will need to refer the matter back to the courts.
Jess 17 Mar 2016
I'm hoping someone can help me I'm trying to find out for my partner if his sons mum can keep changing the access order that the judge put in place without going before the judge, my partner has never gone against what the judge put in place but his sons mum keep changing it to shoot her and it's getting very frustrating for him and me, thanks to everyone that can help x
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Mar 2016
I think in this case perhaps you should suggest mediation with your ex. A mediator will be able to oversee and facilitate an agreement/compromise that can be drawn up for you both. The agreement is also subject to approval of the courts and therefore any agreement will be registered. Please see link: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. If you are concerned about his drug habits etc, this is the best way of making sure your views are heard and taken into consideration in a formal way. I hope this helps.
Louise 14 Mar 2016
2 years ago my ex and I separated due to his addiction to drink. I agreed that he could have the children at weekends as long as he was sober. It wasn't until he was arrested for being unfit to drive through drink and drugs with our children in the car, that I found that he was not only drinking but had been using drugs also. He was arrested and charged for the driving offenses as well as section 12, endangering our children's lives. All contact was ceased and social services became involved. I applied for a divorce and residency of our children. My ex opposed the residency in order to get contact with our children, both 8 and 9 at the time. My eldest child was diagnosed with PTSD and my youngest with anxiety and stress. In the end we agreed that since he was living back with his parents and was on a drug testing order and no longer drinking, that he could have phone contact with the children and have the children for 4 weeks of the year. It was both agreed at a joint meeting as long as certain conditions were put in place, supervised contact by his parents. He lost his job recently and is currently in 2 months of arrears with cms. He has started displaying the same behavior as he does when abusing alcohol and drugs. His parents openly told me that they barely see him, that he has to leave the house if they decide to go out. Clearly he cannot be trusted. He ceased all contact with the children for 2 weeks. As a result both of our children started showing signs of stress, mood swings, bed wetting, nightmares, anxiety... My ex rang a couple of days ago to speak with the children, I refused to allow him. I confronted him on his substance misuse and things quickly became heated between us. I have every suspicion that he is using drugs again, but obviously cannot prove it until he is tested. I have since calmed down and tried to get hold of him to let him know that he can have phone contact with the children, but there is to be no physical contact until he straightens his life out. I am still waiting to hear back from him. I has also found out that my exs dad is very immobile and his mum is still recovering from a fall she had at Christmas. They are both in their 70s and never see any wrong in their son. I am not convinces that they are well enough to supervise contact efficiently anymore, since my exs dad said that they are Not going to get any better. Ideally I would be more at peace with the children seeing their dad in a contact center, especially considering everything that came to light after his driving offense. Where do I stand with all this?
Irishbhoy 3 Mar 2016
I have had to take my ex to court twice toget access to our son and now she aliening our son towards me I speak to him on Skype twice a week and my ex is always in the background and talk over us when I am trying to speak to our then I get nasty text messages when I sign when our son gets upset .l have court order in place and this doesn't seem to matter when I try to do anything I am the one in the wrong what can I do
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Feb 2016
Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, link here which will tell you what you can do if your ex has breached the contact order. You may also be interested in our Separated Dads Facebook page which may help. Your only option is to take it back to court and continue to do so. The courts do want fathers to have a relationship with their children and are beginning to penalise parents who continue to flout court orders and fabricate lies. Unfortunately, as difficult and frustrating as it is, perserverance is the key, at some point your children will be of an age to make their own decisions and hopefully then you will be repaid.
Anonymous 24 Feb 2016
I have 2 children with my ex, I saw them regularly and took them for days out until I got a new partner and my ex stopped contact completely threatening to call police if I came near her house. She stopped contact for two years including seeing or even speaking to my children, I applied to court and continued to contact her on a regular basis to see how the children were and never received a response, when I did it was only to say how they didn't need me so to forget them. Eventually it got to court after her failing to show up to several court dates and we were sent to two rounds of mediation and various contact centres so my children could get to know me again. She made various claims against me including that I was abusive, an alcoholic, a drug user and depressed all of which were proven to be false as I have no medical record or police record of any of this. She would constantly change the reason why I wasn't able to see the children even claiming they had psychological issues (also false as evidence proved). After a lengthy court process she agreed to let me see the children one day every weekend and I obtained a court order. Since then every time I have seen the children she has dictated where and tagged along the whole time watching the children. It then goes weeks where I don't see them as she says they don't want to see me and tries to get me to go to her house to see them. She has even booked a class on the day I am supposed to see them meaning they are never free. She is clearly breaching the court order and confusing the children so I want to apply for a defined order and feel that a psychology report needs to be done on the mother (which was suggested in court last time). Where do I start??
SeparatedDads Editor 23 Feb 2016
I'm afraid this is a bit difficult to advise on, as to attempt to take it back to court would look as though it was access based on a financial agreement rather than what is in the best interests of your child. How the court would look upon this is debatable. It is unlikely it would be allowed back into court unless you had a justifiable reason and/or your circumstances had changed which would mean you would apply for a variation of the order. It looks like your ex may have been a bit more canny in her approach here. I can only suggest you seek legal advice, but I imagine you would be advised to wait for a while until you re-apply for changed access. However under any circumstances it is never advised to approach this from the angle of the financial benefit.
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Feb 2016
I am sorry to hear this. If your ex is in breach of the court order, I can only suggest taking it back to court in order to get the order enforced, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here and which will explain what the court stance is on parents who continually disrespect the court order.
Gazphipp 22 Feb 2016
Hi I have been separated from my partner for two years. I've always paid Child maintainance and given extra to my children when needed. We had a agreement in place where I'll have the kids every other weekend but not on the Sunday night for their benefit under the agreement that she wouldn't go for more money. We Had the access in court with a access consent order, after that was signed she went for more money the next day! A extra £100 a month I don't have. What do I have to do to re-issue court proceedings so I can either get that Sunday back or go for for joint seven day access and what are my chances? Gaz
Irishbhoy 21 Feb 2016
I have been to court twice over access to our son and had numerous court orders which I have fullified my portion of this.now my ex wife is telling me that if I don't adhere to her conditions that she will remove all contact to our son I don't know where to turn
lindy 20 Feb 2016
I would like to add that we went to court because he DIDNT want our daughter or visitation at all. But once the court ordered visitation he now want more than he is allowed.
lindy 20 Feb 2016
Hi, My ex and I have just been through an exhaustive separation. After 2 years in court I was granted so custody and he has extensive visitation rights. The relationship was abusive, he was highly controlling and downright scary. Everything went well in court. I gave him as much as I could to avoid retribution or violence after the trial. Two days after we recieved our final court orders he started asking for visitation and contact outside of the court orders. I have politely responded in emails that we stick to the orders as they have only just been made. At least once a week he comes up with a new request to "amend" an order. we've only been out of court 2 months. I dont wont to go back. I hate saying no to him because it results in some sort of retaliation but I just want to follow the orders and get on with our lives. I'm so tired. Our daughter is only 2. Nothing he requests benefits her, it's just strange petty nonsense requests. whenever I dont give him what he wants she comes home with her hair cut off. How do I handle this without aggrevating him.
Meg 13 Feb 2016
I am 17, and in a temporary court order it says I have to go to my mothers for the weekend and stay with my father for the weekdays. I do not wish to go over to my mothers, for years she has neglected my brother and I and whenever she did spend time with us it was to get something in the end. Her family is sickening, with the step grandfather treating physical abuse before. I also have asthma, and her home is dirty and causes it to act up for the entire week, only to be messed up even more when I have to go back. I want to leave prematurely but she has threatened to call the police, and I do not want myself or my dad to get into trouble. Can I leave without getting my dad or myself into trouble? Will it be taken in court badly if I leave?
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Feb 2016
You're welcome. I'm afraid it continues to be a tricky question to advise on as it is the son who doesn't want contact. As specified in my last reply, as he is now 15 his opinion will be taken into consideration should your son continue to pursue access through the courts. Your son could be banned from contacting his own son, if a complaint was made against him to the police prior to it coming to court, so his best option is to make sure he cannot be accused of harassing his son. You don't say what the reasons are for your grandson not wishing to see your son, but your son can only hope he may calm down and at some point change his mind.
nanna 11 Feb 2016
Thank you for your prompt reply. Mother and stepfather would have no interest at all in trying to bring my son and grandson together, in fact I think they would seek to drive the wedge further. Although the court order stands until June, my concern is my son has no means of contacting his son. I 'bumped' into him after school to see if he would meet his dad, which he refused. My son tried a week or so later when my grandson ran off and refused to speak to him. Previously there had been a very good relationship between them. My concern is from the legal point of view, can my son be banned from trying to contact his own son to sort out the problem, would this be harassment. Sadly my ex.dil would see it that way. So legally, what would the position be. I hope you can help with this.
SeparatedDads Editor 11 Feb 2016
It's a difficult situation for sure. Ideally the problem would be solved or alleviated if they could talk. Can the mother or step father help? It sounds not from what you've said. The courts will normally take account of a 15 year old's opinion, so it might not force a re-establishment of the residency order, but at least taking it to court might give both sides a chance to communicate their views. They may also suggest mediation, which could work assuming both sides would agree to attend.
Nanna 10 Feb 2016
My son has a shared residence of his two boys sine 2009. The 15 year old has suddenly turned on his dad in the last few months. He went on work experience with his stepfather and said his dad was holding him back. He says he hates his dad and refuses to meet up with him to talk over what the problem is. Bearing in mind that the shared care order is in place until my grandson is 16, is my son out of order trying to catch up with his son after school. He has tried on one occasion and my grandson swore at him and ran away. My grandsons telephone number has been changed twice by his ex. wife so phoning and texting is not an option.
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Feb 2016
Any changes to a contact order must be agreed by both parties, i.e one party cannot unilaterally decide to change the order or apply additional terms. If you wish to do this, you will need to refer the matter back to the courts. However, the court does not have to approve any agreed amendments to the original order, if you both are in agreement. Just make sure that you both have this agreement in writing to protect yourself should a further dispute arise. You don't need a solicitor for this - but if you wish to make it more official, a Mediation appointment may help. I hope this helps.
Zed 4 Feb 2016
Hi: We want to make a simple change to our contact. If we agree this in writing, does it need to be submitted to court? And if so, how and for how much? My ex trying to insist I pay for a lawyer's letter to confirm what we have already agreed in writing, but the solicitors I have spoken to so far want to open a file, charge minimum hours, etc, etc. I suspect it's unnecessary as we've both agreed the language of the change but he is currently saying he won't make the change without a lawyer being paid (by me). I was just wondering if it might be cheaper (and still pacify him) if we both sign the agreement and send it to the court. Many thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Jan 2016
I am sorry to hear this. Firstly, if you cannot afford legal fees you can self-litigate, and here. A lot of parents are having success taking this route, if they prepare their cases well. You can take the matter back to court to have the order enforced, please see article: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. If your ex has deliberately and seriously breached the order time and time again and is effectively in contempt of court, the courts will not take this lightly. Therefore, this is the stage not to give up at and it is worth persevering to ensure the contact to your child is upheld. Please make sure you keep a diary of her breaching the order as this will also help your case when and if you need to present it to the courts.
Paolo 26 Jan 2016
hi I have a contact order to see my 6 year old son every Sunday 10:30 till 5:30. I was given the order in June 2014 after having to take my ex-partner to court as she refused to let me see my son for 11 months in total due to her failing to appear in court on 5 occasions giving reasons on poor health and not receiving letters to inform her of dates to attend. I have tried Mediation which I attended and she refuse to attend and I have written her countless letter to try and get her to come up with an agreement between ourselves that does not involve the courts but she has refused to even discuss anything with me. my ex-partner has now stopped my access and informed me that in order to see my son I must go back to court even though it is her that has breached the court order on a number of occasions which I have just gone along with as I know how costly and lengthy the court process is but I am now left in limbo as to what to do next. HELP? I am on the birth certificate and I pay maintenance through CSA so money is not even a reason
mac74 24 Jan 2016
Hello, I currently have a contact order that gives me access to see my daughters unsupervised for two hours every Saturday.. this has all been going great for over 2 years now, my kids are 5 and 4 and because of the troubles my ex has caused to try and stop contact despite great reports from the contact centre, the kids are actually at contact centre number 3... Now the real issue is, I've been found guilty of domestic violence charges, first offences... hoping it's going to be community service etc.. but if I do go to jail for however long, I guess this contact order ceases to be ? Will the judge who sentences me, take into consideration my fight and commitment to stay in the kids lives despite big problems with there mother... and the fact the kids have been to 3 contact centres already and it would do then more harm than good to have there father vanish from there lives ... help me to escape a custodial sentence ? My lawyer has told me that cos I've fought long and hard for my kids through the courts and it's all been going great for months and months, that this will help me not go to jail perhaps.
SeparatedDads Editor 22 Jan 2016
You could try Mediation as a way of sorting the issue out. Please see link: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. I hope this helps.
Dawnlb 21 Jan 2016
We currently have a contact order in place that my son sees his dad every Wednesday and overnight and every other weekend. I've recently had a baby and cannot collect my son from his dad's in time for school on a Thursday morning. He lives 14 miles away. I also can't afford the petrol. I've discussed with him not doing the overnight on w Wednesday as it's awkward but he's insisted on having him wed nights still resulting in my son being late for school. My son is 7 and doesn't want to stay there anyway as doesn't get on with the girlfriend of my ex. How do j change the order as can't afford court fees
SeparatedDads Editor 19 Jan 2016
If you stop access you will be in breach of the court order which will allow your ex to take the matter back to court in order to have the order enforced, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, whichIf you have an issue with the access, then I suggest asking him to attend Mediation to help resolve the matter.
Dd76 18 Jan 2016
Hi. Help. I have a court order, issued by my ex and the courts stating my son is to see his dad every other weekend over night. His new partner had told me she is concerned over my sons safety with my ex. That he is aggressive with my son and very impatient when my 2 year old son misbehaves, my ex won't use the time out method and send him straight to bed no matter what time of day. My son screams when I drop him off there, I told my ex today that he couldn't have him over night again, raising said issues, my ex told me he will take him no matter what as he has the court order saying he can!! He says I will be prosecuted, can I now take him back to court and plead my case? Thanks any advice greatly received
ME 16 Jan 2016
Not sure where you get your information from but you need to check it and re check before printing it because the last time I looked ME is actually recorded as a Neurological condition and is VERY, VERY real. Both my Son and I were diagnosed with ME after suffering years of abusive behaviour from my ex. The Courts do take it very seriously. Oh and just to confirm My Son has no contact whatsoever with his father. Please do not continue to print incorrect information as it reduces any weight that your advice might have had.
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Jan 2016
I'm afraid we cannot recommend specific solicitors. If his ex breached the existing contact order, your friend should be able to get that order enforced. Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. I hope this helps.
Lockers 11 Jan 2016
Hi, I doing this on behalf of a friend as he is in Iraq at the moment working. He has 2 children who his ex partner is denying him contact to. He was never married and his name was not on the birth certificate. He went to court and gained parental responsibility and a contact order in 2011. His ex partner still denied him contact lying that he never showed up for contact, but every time he did she refused or would not be home. Due to the court costs and working away he as not seen his children since 2011. He is now in the financial situation to go back to court. Can you give any advice on his best action or recommend a good solicitor in the Liverpool area please.
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Jan 2016
Cafcass will get involved in this and you will be able to have your say, please see link: What Goes into the Cafcass Family Report? here. I hope this helps.
D 7 Jan 2016
I have had a contact order in place for twelve month which me and my ex partner agreed to in court that he would have the children from Friday afternoon until Sunday afternoon, I recently received a court summons saying he wants to change the order to suit himself and his new partners needs and I need to attend on this certain date....His only reason for changing is so he can have every other weekend off because he needs time with his partner they want a break when he doesn't have any work commitments and I take nothing off him financially, he asked me to cover his days on a few occasions but I already had made plans myself and he said I am being unreasonable hence the court summons....His written statement is all about him and doesn't state anywhere how it would affect the kids or benefit them can I contest his current application when we get to court? Why am I changing my children's routine to enhance his social life? Any advice would be welcome thanks D
Missy Editor 4 Jan 2016
@Noodles - I'd change the locks. If he has never lived there, there is nothing he can do if you say no except take it to court for an occupation order and then it would be up to the court to decide.
Noodles 3 Jan 2016
I moved out of a hostile environment for the sake of peace. We jointly purchased another flat for me to live in. Now he wants to use it when I'm not there, he is saying as he co owns it he can. We e been apart for more than two year eps! Is this right?? The divorce is not finalised yet!! He lives in a 7 bed house and has three spare rooms when children not there...4 girls... I'm in a three bed flat.. He would be sleeping in my bed!!!! Aaaaghghhh is this legal???!
SeparatedDads Editor 21 Dec 2015
I am sorry to hear this. Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. As specified in the article, you would have to apply to have the order enforced. Ahead of this, I suggest you ask a solicitor to send a letter re-iterating her obligations and threaten her with court if she attempts to breach the court order again.
Kev 20 Dec 2015
My X wife has repeatedly broken court orders I was to have children this Christmas Now she has refused Allowing me to see them for a few hours I have to fly to London to see them They live in HK She may not turn up Her father in law is an mp and is aiding and abetting her to break the orders My aging parents are devastated that they canno have their grandchildren home for Christmas What can I do
davet 10 Dec 2015
Hi want does in a court order mean by, no less the 3 consecutive nights? As on my order is said that for easter. This year I had to bring my boys home early from our holiday because I booked a 4 night stay, and the ex was kicking off saying it is 3 night, as I want to book a 5 night stay this easter. Can I do this??????Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 9 Dec 2015
Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. You will ,of course, be in breach of the court order if you insist on keeping them over and taking them to the show. While you may get short term gain from doing this and it may amount to no action from your ex, she could equally decide to withold access which would mean you would have to take the matter to court. I can't advise you what you should do - but I would be careful about breaching the order, especially if it may give your ex the ammunition to make things difficult for you.
fred 8 Dec 2015
Hi I have shared residence order and parental responsibility. The order said I have to take my children home at 6pm. I asked her 4 weeks ago if I could have them to take them to a show, she said yes so I booked the tickets. And now she has said no I can't have them over night. I said I have paid for the tickets as it was agreed between us. Nope bring them back like the order said. I have said nope I am taking them to the show. What is the worst that will happen. As I have informed her they will be staying. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 7 Dec 2015
Any deviation from the original court order means you will be in breach. Please see article: Breach of Court Order: What Steps to Take Next? herewhich tells you what constitutes a breach and what the repercussions may be. Should you wish the court order to be changed (if you feel circumstances have changed) then you would have to request a variation from the courts. However, there is no guarantee this would be granted.
Peter 5 Dec 2015
Hi, we have a court order and it has been in place for 1 year. my step daughter suffers slight emotional abuse over there such as neglect and is not allowed to talk about me (her step dad). Scarlett often mentions she does not want to go there despite encouragement from myself and her mother, we have never said any bad things about her father to her and she is aware it is not the same on their side. She asked if she was allowed to stay at home for Xmas, he said no as the court order states alternate xmas and it his turn, would we be allowed to keep her at home seeing as she wants to? she also has missed out on many play days and parties with her friends as he has said no, is there anything we can do about that? Also, in the order we stated we could do half the journeys to make our move away easier for her father, it is becoming really difficult for us to our half of the journeys due to changing work circumstances, but he will not agree to collect her. If we did have to go back to court what is the likelihood they would make him do both journeys and roughly how much would it cost?
leon1 1 Dec 2015
hi it was a prohibated stesp order we got for him the first time, i think no its a residency order thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 1 Dec 2015
It's hard to answer your question without knowing what the PSO was for and therefore whether your change of address would be relevant.
Loopy 30 Nov 2015
There was a court order set several years ago, now my son is older and contact has reduced with his father. Csa have asked me to send proof of the new order, which i don't have as the reduction was my son's decision. My ex is stating that he has our son more therefore he doesn't have to pay any more. Although he's lying there is no way I can prove it without more court expenses. Is there any other way I can prove to csa he's lying?
leon1 30 Nov 2015
hi, i have got a prohibatied steps order for my son, ive moved into my partners with him but on the orders from court i still use my address (which i have still got) i dont stay there, how will this effect me, if she deciedes to bring it up as she knows i am there. or can i change my address even though they think hes at my flat ...?
SeparatedDads Editor 30 Nov 2015
I'm afraid I haven't been able to read all of your comment as it's rather long. Readers are given a certain amount of words and the more succinct the question, the better it is for us to understand and respond to. If you need to take your ex back to court, if your circumstances have changed, or because she is in breach of the court order then you have the right to ask for more time. Please see: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here and When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access, here. I hope this helps.
Tam 29 Nov 2015
attended church with me for 5 years. She refused. They have not spent a night with me since we separated. 5 years, not until this 27 - 28 November when she decided to allow them spend the night, after much pleading from me and the children. My little one on getting to her house on Saturday, told her that they'd like to come spend the weekends with me, she told the little one that "I don't think so. I don't want it to get out of hand". This is a 9 year old child telling me what his mum said regarding seeing his dad. I was deeply hurt and saddened. Why would she deny these boys the joy of seeing their father who raised them from childhood? There's nothing the children need that I do not get them. I don't deny them anything that they need to make them secure, safe and comfortable. I love these boys like mad and she knows that is the only thing she can use to hurt me: deny me access to my children. Please I need your advice on how to go about applying to the court to have access to my children from Friday to Sunday morning. Also, I am planning to relocate to the US next year July 2016, so I can't afford to leave matters the way they are without putting in place legally binding arrangements to see my children during the weekends and holiday before I move and also to have them visit me in the US during their holidays and whenever I'm in London (not that she kept to the visitation order of 2012). She bought a house far away from the children's school and far from me without even consulting me on the move. She's taken the children on holidays without seeking my consent or even leaving a contact number for me to reach them when they are away. She's blocked me access to the children's school life or any other matter regarding them that is my right. I need to address these please. I am have been seeing a therapist since the breakup and he pointed out that the main issue causing my acute depression, stress and PTSD is lack of healthy access to my children, that I should go to citizen's advice bureau for help.
Tam 29 Nov 2015
.....without her permission. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. She obviously preferred the children to suffer in that December 2012 winter biting cold rather than me coming to help them and ensure their safety and comfort. It's been like that with her. It was because of that same lack of concern for their welfare that the Court sent us to NRS Parenting Course for Separating and Divorced Parents. It didn't do her any good because she had gotten worse instead of changing her attitude and putting the children first before her animosity toward me. Because of my threatening to call the police for leaving the kids home alone in 2012, she drops the children sometimes with me during the holiday. This is based on her decision and whim, nothing to do with seeing it as my parental responsibility or right. There was a time that for two weeks she didn't drop the children on Saturday as the court ordered, she does this many times without any explanation most times. Since she wouldn't answer my calls or texts messages, I had to go to the little one's school to see him. I did. He was ecstatic with joy. When she heard, she warned me never to visit the kids at school again, that she didn't want me 'disrupting their lives', her words. I wept like a baby. She treats me as if I have no rights at all. That's the same way she's treated me during our 10 years of marriage. Until 2010, I was their main carer. Their school never knew her, or saw her. The school and other parents thought I was a single parent until 2010 when she kicked me out of the house after she got her British passport (I brought her here from Nigeria when I got a job in London as minister of religion). I was working and taking care of the children at the same time. I even had to leave my NHS job to work night because I wouldn't allow her send the children to a child minder. She eventually got a childminder that misplaced my child. The child went missing. If it had not been for the fact that I taught the older boy my phone number I wonder what would have happened to my child. The childminder left him at the bus stop and got on the bus without realising the older one was not on it. He was left at the bus stop weeping in Lewisham. It was a kind lady who saw him crying and asked if he knew any of his parent's phone number, he knew mine, not his mother's. He called me and luckily I just finished work and was in the same vicinity, right in front of him when he called! It was a weird experience for me and I cried. I am tired of being at her mercy. I'm tired of seeing my children anytime she chooses. She's ignored the court's order several times for me to see the children on Saturdays as ordered. She knows that I don't like any trouble so she uses that to treat me the way she does. I need help applying to the court to see my children every Friday to Sunday and drop them off on Sunday afternoon. This week, I asked if the children could come to church with me since they've not a
Tam 29 Nov 2015
Hello I am advise regarding access to my children. In 2010, my partner took me to court and from then we started living apart. The judge asked what I wanted concerning the children, but since I was homeless and out of job because of the stress and depression caused by the breakdown of the marriage and abuse I suffered at her hands, I couldn't ask to have the children or see them more than a day of the week. I asked if I could see the children on Saturdays. It was granted. That was in November 2010. It's now 2015 and I have experienced changes in terms of going back to work (since 2012) and have a comfortable place where I'm living. I was expecting that because of these positive changes my partner would see it fit for me to see the children more than the Saturdays, but it took my threatening to call the police because she preferred leaving the children home alone rather than them being with me. That was in 2012 when the oldest was 11 and the youngest 5. They were on holiday and I called to find out how they were doing and asked how their mum was (I always to do that), but was told that they were home alone, and that they had been home alone since Monday, this was Thursday. I was livid and told them I was calling the police to report her abuse. But friends prevailed and somehow someone told her that I was going to call the police, that was when she called me, which she never does, even when I send her a text or call her regarding the children, she never responds. She asked if I wanted to have the children for the week. This is a woman who knew I was home, off work, but preferred to leave the children home alone rather than them spending time with me. She actually walks right by my house to get to work. So it wasn't that it was inconvenient or a long trip to make to get to me. I made sure I got a flat about 3 minutes away from their house to enable me reach them quickly in case of any emergency, because I was afraid for their welfare since I had been their main carer since they were 2 weeks old and she pursued her career. I was afraid that she wouldn't be able to properly care for the children. There was a time I called to find out how they were (I call every day), and I heard the little one crying, when I asked the older one what the matter was with him, he told me that the heater had been off for hours, and they were freezing, that was why the little one was crying, he was cold. I asked if any adult was there and the older said they was but the person didn't know how to turn on the boiler back on. I asked if they'd called their mum, and he said yes, but that was hours ago and she hadn't shown up. I called their mum, but as usual, she refused to pick my call. I ran like a mad man to the house and found my little baby crying. I turned on the boiler and waited a while to ensure the boiler won't trip off again. I left. For their mum to call me a couple of hours later threatening me and saying never to come to her house without her pe
donkey 28 Nov 2015
I just got a court order my ex has brech it 2 time she allways in pubs with her new man can i take her back to court
Cassandra 27 Nov 2015
Most of the above I already know - what I want to know is how does anyone negotiate, change, discuss and rearrange any agreed procedures on Contact Order if one party, the rp, refuses to discuss anything at all? How can this be dealt with? I can't find any information at all about it. Mediation didn't work because the rp walked out half way through and told the Mediator and the other party that it would have to go to court. Since then, a very similar procedure has been adopted, whereby the Contact Order is agreed by both parties, and then immediately flouted whenever the fancy strikes by the rp, who has also lied many times to the court, and both barristers AND the judge know this, it is in the court record, but there have been no repercussions, and it just continues. What is the matter with the legal system in this country? Is this normal? If lies are known and identified, and there is no sanction at all, the liar continues to lie. Why not? What a FARCE. Cassandra
SeparatedDads Editor 26 Nov 2015
Do you have any family or a friend who can accompany you? If you do not take your child, then you will be in breach of the court order, please see article: here. Another option would be to take the matter to court and ask for this current arrangement to be reviewed.
Somerset girl 26 Nov 2015
I have a court order that has been granted by the judge despite my solicitor giving concerns that the order shouldn't got ahead. My ex was a physical and mental abuser and is continuing to try to control my life. The order states I'm to meet him at a half way point in a small McDonald's car park in a quite village on my own without my current partner. I'm now 4 months pregnant with my current partners child and fear meeting my ex. I'm scared of him and he emotional abusive. He hurt me when i was pregnant with his son. My son does not want to stay overnight with my ex as the order states and last time he was due to have him I tried to work this out with him directly but got days of abusive texts with personal insults and blaming me that he doesn't want to stay. Please help. What can I do. I do not feel safe meeting him and my son doesn't want to stay but the order states I must meet him and my son is to stay over night?
SeparatedDads Editor 24 Nov 2015
I am sorry to hear this. If the order was issued with out Prohibited Steps attached, then your ex is in breach, please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here. It means if she contunues denying you access, you can take it back to court to request an enforcement of the order. I hope this helps.
HamptonDad 23 Nov 2015
I recently got a court order that instructed my ex to allow my access to my daughters at weekends. This weekend she insisted that I give her my new partners telephone number and said I would not have access unless I gave her the details of the plans I had with the children while they were with me despite never telling me what she is doing with them while they are with her. I refused and she denied my access. Her behaviour is controlling and odd. A few weeks ago she knew that I was intending to take my daughters to my partner's father's house and she begged to drop them off outside his house so she could look at it. He lives down a private lane and I had to be very firm as she kept asking.
Pand 14 Nov 2015
My boyfriends court order says he is to have the kids from Monday morning, 8am to Friday after school, 3pm. His ex is to have the children 3pm Friday to 8am Monday. She very regularly sent him messages to say she couldn't have the kids during the weekend, and at times waited for him to drop the children off and arrive home before calling him and saying she wasn't feeling well and couldn't have the children for the weekend. Recently he put his foot down and said she was required to stick to the court order which said she had to care for the children at the weekends (I'll add here that this summer I spent more time with the children at the weekends than she did - she only saw them around 3 times). She kicked up a fuss about this and then tonight said if he didn't pick the children up she would send them into care. Is this a breach of the contract, and if so, what rights does he have? We've been looking at different options.
T green 2 Nov 2015
Hi my ex partner has visitation rights to our daughter . This time last year he got a new job and I was told I had to take my daughter home on the Sunday night instead of the Monday which is what the court order said . I agreed because I knew my daughter had been wanting this for Many years. I have always agreed to accommodated his wants and my daughters needs without complaining . I have asked a few times for him to swap holidays with me ( I work term time ) but he has always refused. My daughter is now 12 and she has had enough of being told when she has to go see her father. He father is a fungshning alcoholic and most times he has had a drink by the time he picked her up at 6 pm on a Saturday the problem with this is he is a bully and always slagging me off to her which upsets her and he is pushing her away I hate hearing the nasty things he says about me but I have to let her get it off her chest. She wants more control over when she sees him she dont t want to cut him out of her life because deep down I think she hopes he will change (never going to happen ) she describes going with him as a chore and not enjoyable but goes because he has told her if she don't I will go to jail !!! I can't change what he says to her all I can do is listen so she can make her own mind . Would the courts scrap the court order and listen to my daughter 100% because it's what she wants .
SeparatedDads Editor 2 Nov 2015
You seem to be overlooking the most imortant person in this comment, who is your son and whether he wishes to go to the party or not. While there may be a court order in place, there has to be some compromise along the way. You could put it to her that you do not mind him attending the party if he wishes to go, on the proviso, that the hours he is supposed to spend with you, will be compensated for at another point in the week. If she does not consent to this, and keeps preventing you from spending time with your children, then you may have to take it back to court to have the order enforced. Please see link: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, whichI hope this helps.
sacs80 27 Oct 2015
Hi, I need to change my address on a court order. I also need to change a few things on the order regarding increasing the time I have my daughter but also I would love to take my daughter to school once a week. Ex is really anti due to me having a new girlfriend and family. My question is should I try and communicate that I have moved and my daughter will now be spending fortnightly weekends at the new house or do I need to go to court to change theses this things on the order. My old address is on the order as the only address I can have my daughter this was a wish by my ex as she did not want me taking our daughter to my new partners house over night.
SeparatedDads Editor 21 Oct 2015
In the first instance if you and your ex can't agree, or want to re-negotiate the new payments, then I suggest you apply via mediation, (which is a less expensive process than court) please see link: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? whichHowever, if you are trying to vary the court order, once the agreement is made via mediation, then the court will have to endorse it, so you don't theoretically build up arrears with the old order still in place. You can see how much you should be paying via the Child Maintenance Options calculator which hopefully your ex will agree to once your wage lessens. I hope this helps.
Tjh 20 Oct 2015
I am a father of two young children aged eight and five I am a non-resident parent During our divorce I was ordered to pay £300 spousal maintenance payment at the time and my income was over £100,000 per annum including bonuses. This maintenance was in addition to all the other financial settlement agreements and child support. I lost my job four months ago and are currently on jobseekers allowance all the jobs that I am currently being interviewed for a half the amount of money I earnt when the agreement was made, how can I reapply to the court to reduce this spousal maintenance?
Annoyeddad90 14 Oct 2015
Hi I have taken my ex back and forward to court she continues to breach with no reoremans from the judge. She recently had her 3 brothers kick at my mother's door frightening the kids and my niece demanding g the children although I still had 2 hours left with them. Long and short a brother got hit by myself and I was arrested. She is now continuing to change to. And banned me from the school. My order still stands with the kids contact and she is using that saying social services are involved but will not release any details. I really need help.
kandy 10 Oct 2015
I would like to know if I an go to court to stop my kids dad from seeing kids untill 18 I have 3 kids one is not his but was involved in her life aswell and she knows him as dad He is not a verry gd mam and does not want kids only when he wants to see them mabe 2 times a year hhe takes drugs and sells and grow drugs b4 around the kids when I did not no he shouts at me I front off kids and hits me aswell he don't want to pay for kids and only wants this family side to see them he is not letting me meet no one as he finds them and tell them I'm with him
SeparatedDads Editor 5 Oct 2015
I have included an Ask the Police link, to the definition of harassment and what can be done if you think you are being harassed, here. Also, if you think he is in breach of the court order, you can apply for the courts for it to be enforced, see link Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, whichIf you cannot afford legal representation, you can self-litigate, see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, whichI hope this helps.
PieFace 4 Oct 2015
Hi me and my child's father (he was abusive) went through a long court battle not too long ago and in the court order it was said that communication must strictly be about our child's welfare and the last 2 months he has used it to verbally abuse me, verbally abuse my friends, belittle me, accuse me of neglect, threaten me that he is taking me back to court because I'm friends with someone he doesn't like. He used words like c*nt and every other vile word. He begs me for forgiveness and is always switching personalities. We do drop off somewhere with CCTV and the other day he shouted at me as I walked away as I knew he was in a horrible mood. How do I go about sorting this out? It's getting to the point where his behaviour is worrying me again, I really don't want to face him for hand overs. I can't afford a solicitor but I need him to leave me alone, I'm fed up of him harassing me.
SeparatedDads Editor 28 Sep 2015
Yes, he can if circumstances may have changed, or if you have been in breach of the contact order.
Sarasara 27 Sep 2015
Hi my husband and I had a custody agreement a year ago and he is now threatening to take me back to court for more contact. Can he wasily do that
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Sep 2015
Please see our partner article: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, here which I hope will help answer your question.
Pete 13 Sep 2015
Hi, I've recently been to court to have an enforcement order applied to a contact order, the judge didn't apply an enforcement at the time pending a further hearing at a later date, until then the judge has said that my ex and I have to comply to the current contact order. My ex has broken the order twice since then by denying me access, do I need to inform the court now, if so how, or do I wait until the further hearing that isn't for another 6 weeks.
SeparatedDads Editor 8 Sep 2015
I'm afraid you would have to seek professional legal advice as to what your options are next. However, before it goes to court, you could suggest resolving the issue through mediation (which courts prefer you to do where possible), please see article: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? whichHowever, there is no official court order for any agreement made via mediation, so your ex could still change his mind, or opt not to agree to the suggestions put forward via the mediator. If your ex categorically refuses your suggestions of mediation, then you would have no option but to take it to court and before you do I suggest you seek some legal advice. In the first instance, you may be able to obtain a free session with your Citizens Advice Bureau. I hope this helps.
Pammi 7 Sep 2015
I went through a divorce about four years ago at which a court order was made for me to stay in the house and pay my ex husband when our child the agreed amount of what he is due out of the house when our child reaches 18 or finishes full time education. In the meantime the house deeds have been transferred to me. Because my ex husband still has a charge on the property - if I was to swtich mortgage company I would need to obtain his consent. I have tried to switch my mortgage for exactly the same amount - and he point blank refuses to give his consent though sheer spite as there is no impact on him by me switching mortgage provider from an interest only mortgage to a repayment mortgage - in fact it leaves him in a better position. He has sent a letter stating that if i want to take it to court i can. I want to find out what the next steps are for me to take it to court as it is totally unreasonable what he is requesting. Any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated including next steps for me to take this back to the court. Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Aug 2015
If he wants to take the issue back to court, then if he has good reason he can. However, the court will always decide what is in the best interests of the child and it is rare they will take your child from one parent and issue residency to the non-resident parent if they are satisfied the child is being well cared for and looked after.
cutestkaz 26 Aug 2015
After a court order was made for residence for a parent,can the other parent after still three years on then take you back to court for residency ?the other parent was violent and in court threatened judge and they awarded my daughter outright custody till little one is 18.can he now try again for custody despite it already being awarded?
SeparatedDads Editor 25 Aug 2015
You would really have to take this back to court. Your ex is not in breach, as she is sticking wholly to the court order. However, the fact that she refuses to grant anymore time is neither in breach. As specified in the article; go your solicitor and draft a letter to your ex partner setting out the arrangements you wish to change in a more official manner on their letterhead. If neither of the above has settled matters, apply to the courts to decide your contact arrangements again. I hope this helps.
Pip 24 Aug 2015
I have a Contact Order at the moment to see my children every other Saturday, from 12:45pm until 4pm, In the Contact Order it states that any further changes in contact would be agreed between myself and my ex partner, Recently I have asked to see more of my children, at their request, I asked for from 10:00 until 4, my ex denied this but said I could see them from 12:00 until 4. I left it like this for a while and then asked again, again my ex has denied any further contact as seeing me 'unsettles' them (in the sense of them being excited to see me and disappointed when they go home) What I need to know is is she in breach of the Contact Order or do I have to go back to court to apply for another Contact Order
SeparatedDads Editor 18 Aug 2015
I'm afraid this is a difficult question to advise on. If you can put yourself in his shoes for a moment regarding his daughter calling you 'dad'. This can be upsetting for many fathers who witness another man come in and take his place. The word 'dad' is such a personal and exclusive name and this will understandably make her biological father feel like he is being ousted out of the relationship and automatically put him on the defensive. Obviously, you are telling the story from your perspective and the father may have a whole different take on the relationship with his daughter. He obviously cares for her or he would not have taken it to court in order to gain access. If your step-daughter genuinely isn't enjoying her time with her father (quite often children get upset at the insecurity of change and not because they actively dislike the parent), then you should seek to redress this through the courts again. If you cannot afford the legal fees, you can self-litigate, see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, whichHowever, as parents the three of you should be trying to work together for what is in the best interests of your child, and much of that is about getting on with each other and also seeing the situation from the non-resident parent's point of view.
Chris 17 Aug 2015
Hi, My step-daughter, who is 5, lives with my partner and I, we have grown very close. Eight months ago we went to court as our step-daughter was not enjoying her time at her fathers and we wanted to reduce the time for her. He was awarded a much larger share of time, half of all holidays and every other weekend with alternating christmases. This has devestated us and our step-daughter is already not enjoying her time there and even stated that she did not want to go before her last visit away (for a whole week). Her father has said things in the past such as "i am taking your cuddles away" before dropping her back to us and recently sent a text to my partner saying that he was not happy for his daughter to be calling me Dad and that he would be making it very clear to her that she only has one dad and that is him. He also said some disturbing comments over the phone to my partner such as "she will always be the odd one out" and that "my partner, myself and said child will never be a family. We are concerned what he is saying to her and about what she will be thinking, we are being advised to go to a child & family solicitor but after we last went to court which made things 10x worse we are concerned that it will only backfire again and cause everything to get worse, not too mention we are not able to afford to go back to court again. Please may i have some advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
suk13kat 15 Aug 2015
Hi, I am after some advice. My partner and I attended court over 2 years ago and obtained a court order for his ex partner to allow contact which she had previously been withholding or making increasingly difficult. The next 18 months were brilliant, very little problems, we built up contact as advised in the order and came to a lot of decisions between the two families on small changes and things that worked better for all of us. The problem we now have is since asking to take the children on holiday (Friday to Monday) which was agreed and then withdrawn 3 days before leaving the relationship has become very strained. She demands facetime calls every time the children stay with us, which is 24 hours overnight every other weekend, to which we agreed at first but have since decided that we would rather not as it eats into our short time together. Again this has caused further strain and struggle. We have asked to extend contact from Saturday overnight to sunday 12pm to Friday after tea to sunday 4pm every other weekend, 1 week in summer (as we currently have no extended acces in any school holidays) and extended contact at xmas instead of just boxing day and our agreed weekends. This was all denied and laughed at. We are applying to go back to court now, we have a mediation appointment form Monday but my question is, is our request unreasonable? My partner has 2 children from a previous relationship and one with me. They love spending time together however seem to becoming distant as we believe things may be being said at home. We only see them for 24 hours a fortnight and don't wish for 1 of them to be spent on the phone when they will be returned home the following morning? Its such a costly thing, we have already spent our wedding savings on the last trip to court but as the order was so very broad and didn't actually state anything specific other than she is to make them available to us on our agreed days and that changes are to be made between us it seems we have no other option. Alls we want is a full weekend every other and a week in summer and a few extra days at xmas,so that all 3 children can play and bond with eachother and us, and have a chance to get to know our side of the family more. we have come to terms that we will never get alterating xmas' as we once wished but boxing day makes it our special day so that is fine. Any advice or opinions are welcomed
SeparatedDads Editor 14 Aug 2015
Please see our partner article: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, whichIt should tell you if your ex is in breach of the order, in which case you can take it back to court in order to get the order enforced. Also, in the future if you cannot afford the hefty legal fees, you can self-litigate. Please see article: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, whichI hope this helps.
Kieron 13 Aug 2015
Hi There im just after some advise. I just been to court and a order was made that I can see the kids every other weekend and 1 half of the school holidays. But my ex is now saying that one of my kids is going on holiday so I can only see my son and my daughter for 2 1 night. this is rather frustrating to say the least considering I didn't see the kids from November last year until just recently because of lies made which I proved in court. So can anybody advise me if she can stop me seeing my daughter for half of the xmas holidays even though the court states 1 half of the school holidays.
SeparatedDads Editor 12 Aug 2015
If the order states weekends then you are under no obligation to take your daughter mid-week. If your ex is unhappy with the arrangement he would have to take it back to court to try and have the order changed in his favour. However, there is no guarantee that the courts will grant any extension to the order if you or your daughter are not in favour of it.
SeparatedDads Editor 10 Aug 2015
I'm afraid we can't possibly predict how a court case may go. As a rule the courts will take on board the Social Worker's recommendations and adhere to them, however, this is not set in stone and the courts could rule otherwise especially if you have other evidence you can provide.
cat lady 9 Aug 2015
my daughter is 10 in a couple of months and for past 12 months goes to my ex on a Sat or Sunday 11-7 even though child arrangements order says only till 6pm. she has started to get upset again through my ex saying nasty things to her and using bullying tactics on her and me demand a mid week visit which she doesnt want to go to. does he have the right as order states only a sat or sun and also states"the child shall live with the mother" does that mean its a residency order for me to?
lucy 8 Aug 2015
my ex has kept our 4 year old and i've had to go to court to get the child back, my ex has made several false allergations against me and my family, some of which are very serious, they have all lead to me and those involved being arrested but the police have not taken any further action on any of the charges made, the tests i have had done with drug and metal health have all come back clear, the social worker who carried out the section 7 report is HIS social worker for months prior to her meeting with me, she obviously is not independant and has by the looks of things believed every word he has said, she has recommended my child remain with my ex, as the court now know all the allergations are false and have not been bessed pleased with his messing me around with contact etc can you tell me the likelyhood of the courts actually going along with the social workers recommendation of my child remaining with the father.
SeparatedDads Editor 6 Aug 2015
@adviceneeded - Your Question was:I have been divorced for 5 years and contact with my two children had to be agreed by a contact order as my ex partner was not letting me see my children. Shortly after getting the original contact order my ex then moved to Scotland with a new partner and the contact order was amended for this situation. This move only lasted 10 weeks and she returned back to where she originally lived. 4 years on and contact has suddenly stopped again as my ex is saying the children do not want to see me. Do I need to return to court to get the original contact order reinstated or will I need a totally new contact order? Am I right in thinking that at present the most recent contact order (i.e. relating to Scotland) is still in place even though she moved back after 10 weeks? My ex has now also contacted Child Maintenance Services to say contact has stopped so she wants the shared care reduction removed. As I have only missed 2 weekend contacts, does this not imply that she intends to stop contact in the future? Grateful for any advise!"Our Answer is: Regardless of the contact order, your ex is in breach, see article; Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, whichI suggest you take it back to court in order to have your contact order enforced, it will mean that the old order will be naturally re-assessed in line with your current situation. You may also find the article, When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Accesshere, useful. I hope this helps.
adviceneeded 4 Aug 2015
I have been divorced for 5 years and contact with my two children had to be agreed by a contact order as my ex partner was not letting me see my children. Shortly after getting the original contact order my ex then moved to Scotland with a new partner and the contact order was amended for this situation. This move only lasted 10 weeks and she returned back to where she originally lived. 4 years on and contact has suddenly stopped again as my ex is saying the children do not want to see me. Do I need to return to court to get the original contact order reinstated or will I need a totally new contact order? Am I right in thinking that at present the most recent contact order (i.e. relating to Scotland) is still in place even though she moved back after 10 weeks? My ex has now also contacted Child Maintenance Services to say contact has stopped so she wants the shared care reduction removed. As I have only missed 2 weekend contacts, does this not imply that she intends to stop contact in the future? Grateful for any advise!
richb 29 Jul 2015
Hi. I have just moved away from my hometown for a new job. I see my daughter every weekend on Saturday 10 til 5 and then the following Sunday 12 til 4. I have asked my ex for my daughter to have sleepovers every other week and have been refused point blank. No reasons given. When I ask for a reason why they never reply. Can you offer any advice please? Cheers
SeparatedDads Editor 27 Jul 2015
@nicky - I have included a link to one of our partner articles: Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do, link here which should explain what is considered a breach and what is not. I hope this helps.
nicky 25 Jul 2015
hi just a quick question my partner has a court order to see his daughter every fri for 2hrs the ex sometimes makes this difficult and pulls the strings on when he can and cant see her although she takes him to court and then blames him so he gets the telling of she has just started letting him see her again but he going on holiday with me and our 3 kids for a week and wont be able to see the little girl 1 fri but would be able to see her later the next week instead of the time arranged she says this is fine but because his access is court appointed he would need to see them before he goes or he wont be able to see her without going back to court i told him this is not right that she is just using the court to stop him from having a life with me and our 3 kids could someone please help me.
bala 18 Jul 2015
My ex change my daughter name with out me known im not allowed take me child out country as carnt have passport she braken court order.she made own rules say have when she lets me but court order say ever 2 weeks exday on school hoilday not change name what can i do
carper 15 Jul 2015
My ex and my 7 year old daughter live in USA with her husband after I lost the court case to keep my daughter in the UK. We have a court order mirrored in Oklahoma where they live, stating that I have my daughter for 8 weeks in the summer and every other Xmas. I pay for my daughters flights and they should pay the accompanying adult. Last year they moved back to UK but unfortunately the husband was refused a visa so back they went after I took her to court again. Once again the judge upheld the court order. Now my ex says she is going to take my daughter to a lawyer and get a "new" court order drawn up, as my daughter doesn't want to come over here to see me and my family. The real reason is that they cannot afford the flight money, as only the husband is working and they have 2 children of their own now. Cans she do this please, no one seems to know whether she can or not. Many thanks
Bob 9 Jul 2015
Help ! I have a court order to see my kids. Ex regularly flaunts it. She has also poisoned one of my children against me. I've been emotionally abused by her for years and it continues from her through my children. Social services are involved and I've supplied countless amounts of evidence of the abuse I've received, they arent helping me what so ever. I feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall. My kids are teenagers therefore social services say it's their choice to see me, they don't understand they have been poisoned by the ex. Money is tight I don't know what to do. Any advice would be very much appreciated
Jane 7 Jul 2015
Hi, i just need some advice my mum has a residence order on my daughter and shes trying to say i cannot have my daughter and only see her once every two weeks, the order does not say this it only says she has to reside with her and i still have parental responsibility, i just dont no what to to i need and want to have a relationship with my daughter, surely what my mum is doing is wrong but how can i stoo her?
Si 30 Jun 2015
Hello, I have a court order already, but i'm starting anew job and they require me to work some Saturdays. I have to pick my kids up at a contact centre saturday 10am and drop them back on Sunday afternoon 4pm. It says in the court order she must make the children available to me and it doesn't specifically say I must be there to pick them up. I'm hoping my parents or close family can pick them up and take them back to my house or take them somewhere on my behalf for the few hours I have to work. If she disagrees, do I have to go back to court and get the court order amended? And if so what form is it I have to fill in.
PaPa 27 Jun 2015
My story continued... judge. Judge has now ordered Fact finding hearing. It's been one month since the order and my ex has refused to meet with the child contact centre, cancelling meeting appointments hence contact hasn't commenced. She has now applied Child maintenance service (CMS) for money; albeit I have been paying money into her account monthly ever since she left. She must be well aware that since our child isn't spending the night with me she will get more money in accordance with CMS rules. I strongly believe she's trying to frustrate the contact order so she can get more money off me as supervised contact will move towards support contact and she may lose custody at the next hearing or be ordered to have our child spend nights with me which means less money for her. There is a lot of legal work and preparation to be completed for the fact finding hearing as you would imagine. Please advise: A) I'm thinking of using the services of a direct access Barrister or a Solicitor going forward. Has any used direct access Barrister? Can any be recommended in the Bedfordshire area? B) Anyone with similar case to share their experience – I know each case is unique? It is evident that the time is over when ex-partners make false allegation against Dads and get away with it. Just look at the recent case that went public. The dad got custody and she may now end up in prison like her parents. C) How should I go about making CMS understand that her attempt is malicious as she has been receiving money from me and never applied to them after she left the house but now deliberately wants more money from me through them? And I wish all Dads the very best in their cases. If you wish to contact me privately please do let me know and I'll provide my details. PaPa
PaPa 27 Jun 2015
Many thanks and well done to the moderators and owners of this web site. I have learnt a lot form this website in my bid to get custody of my child, from making the contact order application to representing myself at the FHDRA. I know it's a bit of a read; I'll appreciate all your assistance and comments. I hope many of the members will be able to provide further assistance. I haven't had contact with my son since August 2014 after breaking up with my ex-partner. I applied for child arrangement order and also filled the C1A as I've been the victim of domestic violence and the wellbeing and health of our child was at risk throughout the short-lived relationship - which, in hindsight I should have reported to the authorities. I do have evidence captured in audio and video. She made counter allegations. She called the police in July and admitted that she had been the one perpetrating the violence and not me. She again called the police after she started her rage in August 2014, assaulting me and our child. She had claimed I beat her which led to us being arrested and I was released with all allegations dismissed. She then went into hiding with our child painting the picture that she had fled to the Social services. Social services investigated and wrote a report that depicted she was deliberately emotionally and psychologically abusing our child and I, by not letting our child have a relationship with me. But they couldn't take our son into care as there was a private proceeding already in place and there was no sign of physical harm to our child however, she was found to be aggressive, dismissive and hot tempered during their short visit. Social services did conclude in the report that I could parent our child but of course with support. We attended our first hearing in June 2015 after she was absent at the initial one in March. Her counsel was quick to offer a deal (supervised contact) which I rejected as I wanted the judge to take a view. Judge ordered that I have supervised contact every Saturday so our son can get know me again after 10 months. I wasn't entirely pleased about the supervised contact (which I carry all the cost) but Judge felt I need to reintroduce myself. Although it will cost me a lot of money but better that every other week which most dads get. Judge questioned her about her counter allegations of domestic violence that I allegedly committed and she went on about emotional abuse, but the judge was more interested about the alleged physical violence and dismissed it. She eventually confessed to the judge that I physically attacked her only once and the judge asked when, she said on the last day, August 2014 - which was the first and only time I defended myself and our child. She had earlier submitted a position statement earlier that she was victim of domestic violence throughout her pregnancy and our relationship, same story she told Social services - but confessed to only once when quizzed firmly by the
Jason 17 Jun 2015
Hi, I have been separated and living away for 3 years and divorced for just under a year. My ex and I had an amicable agreement of access until recently. I have my daughter on a Thursday night (pick her up from school and drop her to school on Friday morning) and alternate days on each weekend (Sat or Sun). When my ex and her partner lived close by, we shared pick ups and drop offs. When they moved further afield, we did the same with me driving mid-way to pick up or drop her off. They have moved closer now again and again we shared the pick up and drop offs. Unfortunately, we have fallen out irrecoverably .. resulting in (I am ashamed to say) a physical fight between myself and her partner outside their house over another financial matter. We were both arrested but released with no further action taken. Due to the recent altercation, I no longer wish to pick up my daughter from their home and have asked that we continue the pick-up and drop offs mid-way between us which she is refusing to do. There is nothing in the court order that specifies access. I don't want to do this for fear of a further altercation. What are my options? Thank you, Jason.
CW Editor 11 Jun 2015
@Charlie - it's not really fair on your ex to keep your son away from him, if he was unaware of the situation. His mother is the one who is at fault.
Charlie 11 Jun 2015
My ex and I have a contact order stating that he has his son every other weekend and that we arrange other special occasions between ourselves. My exes mum asked to take my son on a photo shoot as a surprise for his dad and I had the impression he was going then coming back it got late and I asked when he was coming back and she replied saying well it's his dads weekend so I am keeping him bearing in mind he has him Friday to Sunday and this was Wednesday and she said that her son had no knowledge of this photo shoot and of her having my son even though she took the car seat for my son out of my exes car so I believe this to be a lie anyways she refused to bring my son home and it wasn't until I called the police and made her aware of this she then brought my son home. Do I have a right to stop contact this weekend between my son and his father as I have lost all trust with him and his family
Ed Editor 10 Jun 2015
@rk1978 - first of all congratulations on having your daughter overnight, it's a great step in the right direction. I don't know whether it would be worthwhile taking this back to court just yet though to get more access, as it is very soon after the order. I think if I were you, I would make sure I kept strictly to the order and then perhaps in six months ask again and if she doesn't agree, you could then perhaps take it back to court if she wont accept further mediation. It means that you will have proved that the contact is working successfully, you will have also built up a track record, but also that you have tried reasonable negotiations with your ex to extend the access, but she refuses to comply. You might also write a letter or email once a month asking for further negotiation, and keep a record of her negation so you can use this as evidence in court. Good luck
SeparatedDads Editor 9 Jun 2015
@manonahorse - If your ex will not agree, then you would have to take it back to court in order to get the order changed.
rk1978 8 Jun 2015
hi, I need some quick advice please. I have a court order to see my 3 year old daughter every other weekend, it has been a gradual progression of contact for the last 6 months and now finally I have her overnight on alternative weekends. In the court order it states ' further contact can be agreed between parties'. unfortunately my Ex will not allow me to have any other contact than was ordered and says she will never progress it any further. Please can you advise me on my best course of action as I want to be in my daughters life as much as possible. also I have parental responsibility but she has told me she will not contact me regarding our daughter unless she absolutely has to, so I have no input in her life. please help!!!
manonahorse 6 Jun 2015
Hi there, I would like some advice on how to approach additional time with my children, in addition to my existing child contact court order. The court order was granted in January this year. As a father, I have alternate weekends with my children, every Wednesday afternoon until Thursday morning, and every second Tuesday overnight. I would like to approach enhancing this to every Tuesday overnight to give the children (2 year old twins) more stability and consistency when staying with me, so as they begin to understand days of the week, they know tuesday and wednesday nights are with daddy and then they get to spend one weekend with mummy, one with daddy and so on. I know their mum will oppose it as she opposes every suggestion I have - is there any sound advice you can give me to back up my approach and assist in making this happen? Is it the norm to be able to request more time once the existing order is established and settled? Ultimately, I want to equally share the parenting of my children - how do I go about this? thanks in advance.
Rob Editor 5 Jun 2015
@selfie - the court order is not directed at your ex's parents and they may have a different story to tell regarding why they kept hold of your son. He presumably was handed over to them in order to care for him, when your ex had to go into hospital. So, it is unlikely they would get arrested. They may get a visit from the police, who might have a routine chat - but I can't see more happening than that.
selfie 4 Jun 2015
My son who has 50/50 residential shared parenting, by the family court orderto pick his son up from his ex partner house at 3 o’clock when he got there he knocked at the front door and got no answer, so he text his ex she informed him she was in the hospital having her other baby, and for my son to pick his son up from her mother’s he went to her mother’s home but got no answer, he could hear his son in the property but she would not open the door he text ex back and she again informed him to pick his son up between 4 and 4.30 pm at her mother’s, My son went back to her mother’s again no answer and this time he could not hear his son, so he came to my daughter’s house were I was minding my other grandchildren aged 6 and 9 years of age , he asked me to go with him back to her mother’s to get his son again no answer, I then said go to his ex 's sister’s r Home .my son sat in his car away from her property while I went to her house I stood on the public footpath outside her home I shouted to the sister to come to ther front door, Her mother’s Husband came out and the sister followed him I asked the sister to bring my grandson out as it was court ordered for my son to have his son over night she informed me that my son was not having him and to get of her property I informed the sister it was court ordered again I asked her to bring my grandson out to his father she was screaming get of my path I am phoning the police , I informed her to phone the police as they had kidnapped my grandson I also informed her that I was not on her path I was on a public footpath out side the wall around her house , she screamed he’s not getting him My son and Myself got into his car and left I informed my son to telephone the police over what had happened and that a court ordered had been broken, can my son's ex partner's family be aressted for abduction of his son.
selfie 4 Jun 2015
My son who has 50/50 residential shared parenting, by the family court orderto pick his son up from his ex partner house at 3 o’clock when he got there he knocked at the front door and got no answer, so he text his ex she informed him she was in the hospital having her other baby, and for my son to pick his son up from her mother’s he went to her mother’s home but got no answer, he could hear his son in the property but she would not open the door he text ex back and she again informed him to pick his son up between 4 and 4.30 pm at her mother’s, My son went back to her mother’s again no answer and this time he could not hear his son, so he came to my daughter’s house were I was minding my other grandchildren aged 6 and 9 years of age , he asked me to go with him back to her mother’s to get his son again no answer, I then said go to his ex 's sister’s r Home .my son sat in his car away from her property while I went to her house I stood on the public footpath outside her home I shouted to the sister to come to ther front door, Her mother’s Husband came out and the sister followed him I asked the sister to bring my grandson out as it was court ordered for my son to have his son over night she informed me that my son was not having him and to get of her property I informed the sister it was court ordered again I asked her to bring my grandson out to his father she was screaming get of my path I am phoning the police , I informed her to phone the police as they had kidnapped my grandson I also informed her that I was not on her path I was on a public footpath out side the wall around her house , she screamed he’s not getting him My son and Myself got into his car and left I informed my son to telephone the police over what had happened and that a court ordered had been broken, can my son's ex partner be aressted overfor abduction of his son.
SeparatedDads Editor 3 Jun 2015
@kes - I suspect if the court order has allowed her to change, and she has made the effort to take it to court to have it changed, then she would pretty much decide to have it changed immediately.
kes 31 May 2015
my son has a court order for change of surname for his baby. how do you police something like this.... Mam and dad are separated....baby lives with mam so how will he know if she has changed baby surname as court order States
SeparatedDads Editor 26 May 2015
@sweet-tee - I don't understand your question fully here. Have you had the court order for access granted? If so and she ignores the local authority's requests then you would have to take it back to court again for breach, see link Breach of Contact or Residence Order: What to Do here. I hope this helps.
sweet-tee 23 May 2015
Hello I have contacted you before about my ex partner not letting me see my 3 kids which was why I took her to court. My ex partner didn't turn up to court the first time and she wrote on her face book that I forgot my last child DOB which I have corrected in court and told them that it is a prove that she has seen the court order. So I was given another date but my ex partner still didn't turn up to court on the second time, the judge gave me some options bit I picked local authority which he said he had in mind, but am not really too clear about what the local authority would do as my ex partner is not cooperating and also kindly please explain what would happen if she ignores the local authority?
Sad Dad 22 May 2015
Hello, I have finished with my partner and she is telling me that to see my daughter I should go to court, she wants a third person when I see her that is only 1 year old so she doesn't have to stay with me. How I can start it? I dont have idea where I can get a free solicitors for it. Please Help
aj 19 May 2015
Hi my boyfriends ex partner has informed him she doesnt want to come and stay anymore unless she can stay at her grandmother's but as she moved over 80 miles away it is not possible to see her unless she stays with us but we feel his ex is doing this as another way of getting to him as this has gone on over 5 years she said if we dont agree she will take us to court what can he do
SeparatedDads Editor 12 May 2015
@Short _ I am very sorry to hear this. Sometimes the resident parent may get a bit anxious if they think their child may want to live with the other parent and her actions could be as a result of this. The only recourse you have is to take it back to court as you ex is effectively breaching the court order.
BP 12 May 2015
I think it's very easy for mothers to search the Internet and find a world full of others in their situation but I would really like to hear from a fathers perspective. I fully support the rights of fathers but I also as a parent fully support the right to my Sons well being. Therefore my questions is, a contact order was granted five years ago for my son. Over the years his dad has repeatedly breached his contact by working, holidays, nights out etc. My son is almost eight years old now. His dad Never offers holidays or school holidays. On three separate occasions he has declared he no longer wishes to have contact with my son with the third time him going completely off the grid. No contact no response to my attempts etc for 10 weeks. I then received a lawyers letter stating I was in contempt of court to which there was a swift reply of get in touch your son wants to see you. It's now dragging on over five months now I have texted and called but it is radio silence from The other side. My son was very upset and angry but has settled now and is actually making good progress in school. There is so much online about crazy mums breaching orders but no advice on what happens when it's the non resident parent. I just want what's best for my son. It's having an effect on his confidence with the let downs. It's very hard when all you want to do is protect them from the hurt. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
Short 9 May 2015
I took my ex partner to court as she was refusing me access to my son over 4 years ago. There was a contact order put in place that I see him every other weekend an half the school holidays. It was all going good until my son asked if he could live with me. I told him it wasn't something I could decide and that he needed to speake to his mom. He did and she told him he wasn't old enough to make that decision (his 9) she has now been telling me he doesn't want to come an stay with me and is not making him available for me to talk to him via phone as they live in summerset. I have not seen him now for 3 months and not spoken to him for over 4 weeks. What do I do as she hasn't stook to the court order
Zack Editor 27 Apr 2015
@Ols - you need to take it right back to court! Once she gets away with you letting her vary the order once, she will do it again and again. The courts hate breaches as they are a waste of their time, so the more you take her back, if she is in breach, the better it is for you.
Ols 24 Apr 2015
My ex wife took my 2 girls to live up North without my knowledge and I have had a 2 year court battle to enable me to spend quality time with them. The judge after 3 court hearings awarded in my favour and CAFFCASS supported all my requests. An order was drawn up stating I was to spend half of every school holidays with the girls with me down South (meeting half way for drop off and pick up) and every month I make the 6 hour trip up there where I see them Saturday and Sunday (daytime) and I have to stay in a travelodge. He also granted 2 phone calls every week. Since the order she has been obstructive on every occasion, changing the agreed dates, changing the agreed meeting point. Last holidays I arrived at the meeting point to be told the girls would not be handed over unless I agreed to take them back nearer to her home. The phone calls are frequently missed and she has already told me the kids do not want to spend Xmas, Easter or half the summer holidays with me and I need to listen to them. They are 7 and 9. I have emails stating if I give her more money I will reap the benefits. She has now told me she will apply for a variation order if I do not agree to giving her money to pay for petrol to meet me at a new exchange point if I don't agree I will have to go all the way to collect and drop off. Also that the girls will spend Xmas and Easter with her and they will only spend 2 weeks with me in the summer. It is my belief that to apply for a variation order their has to be a change in circumstances? Basically she is appealing the Judges original decision. I don't know whether to let her apply for a variation order (will she be allowed if there are no changes?) will the Judge deal with her non compliance at the same hearing or should I apply for an enforcement order? Any advice greatly appreciated.
SeparatedDads Editor 24 Apr 2015
@ firstly, have a read of the article: When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access, whichwhich will tell you the process you have to go through in order to gain contact. Your ex has no right to use your child as a weapon. If you cannot afford legal fees also, you can self-litigate, see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, whichYou also may find our Separated Dads Facebook page useful as there is a lot of good advice on there, as many of our dads have been through similar scenarios and have come out the other side. I hope this helps.
Katzeyez 23 Apr 2015
Hi I've split from my partner a while ago and got myself a new partner I'm suppose to see my daughter every Sunday but the mother of my child playing games cause she still has feelings for me but I do not and try to use me spending time with my daughter against me and doesn't accept my new relationship what can I do to have contact with my daughter without the mother of my child using my daughter against me and stopping me from seeing my daughter over it
SeparatedDads Editor 20 Apr 2015
@cottie - it sounds to me as though you are very confused. Firstly, you shouldn't be breaching the court order, a court order needs to be taken seriously. Plus, you surely can understand if your ex wants your phone number, as it is important to know where your child is, it doesn't mean you have to speak with them every five minutes, you can still have the quality time with your child alone. As far as parenting goes, whatever the circumstances, parenting is not easy. It doesn't come with a rule book and we all have to learn through experience. At some time or other, many parents are faced with feelings of guilt, anxiety and can even sometimes feel that they are not good enough. So it might be wise that you have some 'parent coaching' which is aimed at alleviating those negative thoughts and is designed to encourage people to be the best parents they can be while ensuring aspects of a parent’s needs are fulfilled as well as their children’s. Also, it will help you in court, and is probably something you should have previously suggested if you want to have your son overnight, but don't have the confidence. I can't advise you how to act in court, only that you should take it seriously and that you should be in agreement with what is in the best interest of your child, which is how the court will view it too. The court will view it as a waste of time being dragged back if you have breached a court order and the judge generally doesn't take kindly to it. You say you have a high-pressured job too, it might be worth having a chat to your boss to explain your situation and perhaps you could opt for some flexible working. This may stand you in good stead too for the courts. I hope this helps.
cottie 18 Apr 2015
Ive been to court about my son and had the final order 1st April after nearly two yrs. I have to adhere to a progressive schedule of contact that ends July when i can have my son overnight at my or my parents house, who have always supported me/helped out. I don't have any parenting skills. I didn't make the effort. I have a high pressured job and still do. My partner wouldn't let me care for our child on my own, unless they were asleep or in soft play. I find any contact alone difficult. I don't know how to communicate with my child. I have breached the order twice by taking my child to see my and my parents house two weeks too early, to see my Childs reaction. If hell be comfortable but their mum is taking me back to court because i haven't given her and her partner my phone number to change or cancel any arrangements. I don't want them to know where im taking my son, because i hate being watched and want to take him where i want to go. Not them. I have to leave work early to see him, so deserve to enjoy the free time i have with him. It is putting a strain on my work load, having to rush out every Monday. As it is. How do i defend myself at court please ?
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Apr 2015
@fridge - benefits are always given to the resident parent, and it is and has been a contentious issue for a while when the non-resident parents shoulders much of the burden, yet one with no resolution. Unless your ex is generous enough to share her benefits, there really is little you can do. I have included a link to Turn to Us, here which may help you to see if you are entitled to any extra benefits of your own.
fridge 13 Apr 2015
hi, looking for any help / advice on maybe getting a portion of the tax credits, child benefits towards my time with myb 3 children. I have a court order for me stating I have them 3 evenings a week, every other weekend in full, and HALF all the school and public holidays, yet my ex gets all the benefits. I am out of work and could use some help / advise please, as they cost a fortune to feed / clothe and entertain, yet I don't get any help, and she gets all thanks, neil
SeparatedDads Editor 31 Mar 2015
@Liam - If you don’t know the whereabouts of your child and wish to regain contact, you’ll need to fill out a C4 form. Public bodies such as the DVLA, Department for Work and Pensions and education system can all be used to help locate your children's whereabouts. You can find the form whichI hope this helps.
Liam 28 Mar 2015
Hi a court order was put into place 4 me to see my 2 children on a Sunday afternoon for an hour last year my ex partner stopped contacted and moved house to an unknown address I don't no what to do next I would be interested in any advice you may have
John Editor 4 Mar 2015
@tintin - you are doing all the right things by taking this back to court and yes, she has breached the court order if she is refusing you access. If you can't get this sorted between yourselves, you need to get this sorted officially.
Vic Editor 3 Mar 2015
@rossu - child maintenance isn't based on what your ex may earn, it is purely to be spent on the the welfare of your child, as you would have contributed to if you were still living together as a couple.
tintin 2 Mar 2015
Hi, PLEEEEESE can you help! I have a daughter that I am supposed to have contact with on a Monday over night, Thursday over night, and a few hours on a Friday but if I can't have her on those nights due to me working night shifts we are to endeavour to find alternative nights with in that week. this has been set out in a court order last year May. since she started school these hours have seriously been effected, before she started school I asked to communicate with my ex to try and come up with a new plan as I would not be getting any quality time with my daughter but she has refused to come up with any solution and since September last year my ex has started to take the odd night away saying she has plans or our daughter has hobbies that she needs to go to and I can't have her. Now we tried mediation and still no joy so I have applied to the courts for a change in visitation and to see if my ex has broken the court order. by hearing this have you got any advice on going to court and has my ex broken the order. thanks for your time. tin tin
rossu 1 Mar 2015
I think its not fair that they can still get maintenance whilst she wont let me see kids but spends it on her unemployed ex to days out. New car I have to scrimp and save for a xourt order she she has life of rielly
Bella Editor 26 Feb 2015
@Sal, this is very difficult to advise on because it is obviously going through a court case and at the end of the day it will be up to the courts to decide. All I can suggest is that you keep a list of the breaches in contact order, don't get in a slanging match. If he is lying, hopefully the courts will see through his lies, they are pretty adept at being able to suss out the liars after seeing so many court cases along the same lines.
sal 24 Feb 2015
Contact with ex husband and son was going OK for 7 month..But com July I noticed on the scheduel that my ex husband and new wife had given to me in July 2014 that come September 2014 the weekends had altered around ....In a Taf meeting also in July I raised this matter with my ex husbands wife (he couldn't make it due to working) ....She explained that they altered the weekend around so that I had my son on his BIrthday..I said i wasn't bothered about that and to put the schedual back to how it was to the court order and explained i have things pre booked for the weekends I have contact ......On the 4th September 2014 our son was away on a residential school trip this landed on my ex husbands weekend ....The following weekend my ex husband came to collect our son contact tried to explain to him that he had the wrong weekend and got very aggressive and said he's see me in court .......he didn't have contact with our son until the end of October during a half term break school holiday ...even not informing anybody that he wasn't going to collect him from a activity group that our son attends and organisers having to get in touch with me to say he hasn't been collected......In November I agreed to alter the schedule as now excuse was he is on call for work the weekend's he should have our son I agreed to alter on the condition that he brought him back at 1800 on the Sunday night instead of them taking our son to school and that when it came to school holidays he didn't go to his dad for half the holiday because his dad was working......this he didn't agree with but still carried out what I had proposed.......We now have been to mediation and he wants everything his way and not giving any thing in return......Am I now in my right to go back to what the original court order court order says....What should i do this mess has been going on now for 5 years he as broken every court order we have had but told so much lies to caffcass and hes the one they believe please give me some advise
sal 24 Feb 2015
Stressed and can't get with my life due to a controlling ex husband
stressed 13 Jan 2015
*made me being in my daughters life an issue
stressed 13 Jan 2015
I have a contact order to see my 7yr old daughter, my ex has always made me being in my daughters life but always stuck to the court order. I have to beg and plead with her to take my child on holiday or extra days unless it is convenient to her. More recently she has met a new partner and has broken the court order 4 times, I also found out that they have been telling her bfs parents that I am not part of my daughters life. I have been seeing my lawyer about these incidents and have applied for a minute of contempt at court. I received only one letter from her lawyer trying to imply that I am the one in the wrong an she made a false accusation of me threatening and being abusive to her. I am fighting a losing battle and she always comes out smelling of roses. Feel the only thing I can do to stop this effecting my daughter I'd walk away!!
Charlie 19 Dec 2014
Hi I have a court order in place which states that i / my parents will collect the children directly from school on my specific days of contact My ex has taken them from school and nursery to avoid my contact Should Nursery and school help adhere the order? For example if she turns up to collect them they keep them in school until they have spoken to me?
JJ Editor 26 Nov 2014
@Del - not sure, within a couple of weeks I should think. Your solicitor will know. Good luck with getting contact.
Del 16 Oct 2014
How long does it take for my ex to find out from court I've applied for a contact order
SeparatedDads Editor 15 Oct 2014
@onemoredad .barcouncil.org.uk gives a list of barristers. You can search the Mediation Directory to find an individual to assist in resolving your dispute. Hope this helps.
Onemoredad 14 Oct 2014
Hi I have a contested 2 hour hearing coming up on the 9th of dec in the PRFD/Central Family Court, London. It is a children's matter, ex has stopped all contact and is refusing to budge. I am the applicant and would prefer a sharp direct access ( female!) barrister/advocate to represent me. Any recommendations welcome. Thanks
Cushtie 1 Oct 2014
The advice I seek is on behalf of my brother. My brother took his ex to court over a year ago to gain a contact order when they split as she was using the kids as a weapon not allowing him to see them. He got the contact order. They rekindled their relationship for about 8 months but again she was controlling as before and argumentative and didn't feel this was a great situation for anyone especially the children to be in so again ended it for a final time with much regret as he knew it probably meant issues with seeing the kids as often. He asked her to continue with the court order of which she initially agreed but continued to make things difficult to initiate. 3 weeks after they split he finally got to see his children after he reminded her she was in breach. She continues to make excuses and accusations and sends him messages saying he is a bad dad and the kids are upset all because of him leaving- trying to make him feel guilty she even texts him saying the kids are unwell eg. Tummy ache or they are groggy all the time to try and get him to contact her. Really using kids as a weapon! She turned up for contact at the meeting place with her sister but without the kids saying because he doesn't reply to her messages she didn't know if he would turn up ( he had never not turned up) her sister was verbally abusive and threatening but later accused him of being the one like that and her sister done nothing!!? This wasn't true I was with him as he really doesn't trust her to meet with her alone (she is the type that would harm herself and then accuse him of being abusive). All he wants is regular contact with the kids it's effecting them that they are not yet into that routine with him- how can she do this can she not see the damage? She stalks him texting saying that he is at this place and that place and after that incident with her sister we called the police. The police called her but she said that she only denies it and makes out she has kids best interest at heart. Last week weekend my brother had the kids when they returned she sent him a message saying their 5 year old daughter (whom has a vivid imagination) told her he took them to my house , for a BBQ and they sat on my mother and other brothers knee in the car and not in car seats! This certainly did not happen he has fitted child seats and neither my mother nor my other brother attended my house- we didn't even have a BBQ !!!? Well for these reasons she now says that he can't see the kids and will not turn up for contact unless he meets her alone face to face!? He has replied to say that he won't meet her face to face alone as he has no reason to so she replied saying she is filling in a c100 form now to apply to court again? (My brother spent a lot of money and heartache to get this court order in place) this is a threat as she said that 'these things take time' meaning she won't be turning up to contact! Is she allowed to give him an ultimatum ? Can she take him to
hampshire dad 19 Sep 2014
The mother refused to let me see my twin daughters since birth in 1997 and blocked all contact. Only sketchy contact over 16 years. Courts took my money, got parental responsibility order early on but useless. Watched my daughters fail systematically in life as one disaster led to another. Had to watch a mother like Vicky Pollard live a Jeremy Kyle lifestyle destroying any chance my kids had with the blessing of social services that protected her. One of them eventually jumped out of a 1st floor window when she was 16. She couldn't take it anymore.
Heartbroken dad 17 Sep 2014
Family courts QC openly lied/ mislead/gave incorrect information to expert witness in order to get them to change their opinion and agree to their clients move abroad. Expert witness stated that she would like to see more shared care moving forward as she considered that this was in the childrens best interests. She also stated "The father alleges that the mother acts unilaterally on parenting issues and I have some sympathy for his view". Rather than proceed with trying for full custody of the children, my barrister stated to me and my solicitor on the first day of the hearing that as the expert witness(private social worker) states that she would like to see a more shared arrangement moving forward the court would probably look more favourably on an application for shared care. Based on my barrister and solicitoris opinions we changed my application. The expert witness said under oath that this made her change her mind and that it was there for in the childrens best interests to move overseas. So here am I,devastated,utterly distraught, and wondering how barristers can lie in court and how justice in family courts is only for mothers and the wealthy because I was up against both.
radders 8 Sep 2014
I went to court beginning of august 2014 and my ex failed to attend so the judge ordered me to see my daught on a surported basis in a contact center to 2 hours aweek but I have only seen my daughter once as I was supervised by cafcass. ever since then she has failed to make my daughter available for me to see her. today she said that she has a contact which she wants to use but only supervised not supported even tho the judge has said supported but she is not agreeing with the supported contact and says she wants supervised HELPPPPPPPPPPP
Alexldn 2 Aug 2014
My partners ex cheated on him 5 months after his daughter was born when he found out she took him to court saying he had been hitting her for years (lies of course) and found not guilty in court. He finally got to see her in supervised contact and eventually take her out for two hours until this week she 'forgot' and didn't show up with his daughter, when asked about next week she said she will think about it as his daughter was upset last week (probably because she has to leave her dad) she has a court order for the contact and she's breaking it, she lives with the man she had an affair with with the child and obviously she just sees my partner a a burden, she's happy and hasa family set up so clearly doesn't want him to see her because the child is callin her new partner daddy (who would allow that) So anyway she's broken the contact order, my partner is now worried about the future he adores his daughter and he's been through hell, he was wondering when he goes back to family court can he ask to see her on birthdays and Christmases?
mo 31 May 2014
my son has had trouble seeing his two children . He went to court for nearly two years and was granted a court order. His partner has decided she doesnt want him to see them. She takes the one at eight out of school an hour early so that he cant get her. Should he still have to pay her csa even although she is making his life hell.
Miss km 21 May 2014
My partner has a court order in place defining his access to his children however his ex is very bitter and is constantly reinterpreting the order to suit her own needs. Whilst it's not an issue with my partner seeing his kids. The animosity she constantly causes by creating confusion is upsetting for the kids. Whilst The kids come to us every week for a couple if nights as part of the order, we have them for a full weekend in the first weekend of the month - depending on her social arrangements how the first weekend of the month is determined varies from month to month (eg at one point if the first was a Sunday, then this was the last weekend of the previous month and she wanted the kids back on the Saturday whereas the next time the first was on a Sunday she made it clear that she wouldn't be home when we dropped them off on the Saturday as she was going out as it was the first weekend of the month)!! The other confusion within the court order is the holiday arrangements. The court order defines my partners access and holidays are split (week each at Christmas, shared summer and Easter and defines half term holidays) from holiday to holiday the 'rules' on when the kids come to stay change - so last holidays we didn't have the kids on the usual 'term time' nights as it was her week - which was fair enough, these holidays she's expecting the kids to be picked up from hers in line with usual weekly arrangements - I was wondering the best way forward with this - we've already sent letter via solicitor re the 1st weekend issue yet she continues to play mind games with the kids - and chops and changes and to be honest we're getting nowhere with reasoning on the holiday week issues - I just hate seeing the kids upset and the trouble all this causes for no reason - what's the norm for holiday weeks even though it's the fathers access that's defined in the order? Many thanks
IDIOT!! 18 Mar 2013
I was living with my girlfriend who I realised after a short period of time was very manipulative and very selfish,we had argued but sometimes made up,all of a sudden she became pregnant even though she told me that the doctors said she couldn't have children anyway I decided to stay with her and take responsibility for the baby.After he was born she didn't want to know him at all leaving me to look after him all the time.Her attitude towards me and the baby was getting worse,we had an argument one night in front of our friends when i said I'd had enough and was going to leave,to which she said to me and our friends that if I left she would put my son in a box outside the flat as she didn't want him.To cut the story short I arranged to leave with my son and go back to my Mum & Dads house.It went to court and we were awarded joint custody,I had him live with me and she had visiting rights to which she didn't always full fill.Anyway after about a 2 years we started talking and we were getting along alot better she talked me into trying again for which I did,I moved out of my parents home with my son and moved into a house that the council got us,it was going great then it started all over again but this time she has now moved in another fella who she is having a relationship with but also i found out she was seeing him while seeing me and had an abortion which was his.The situation is terrible because I won't leave my son there but we need to get away from this,can anyone help with some advice as I want to leave her and take my son again back to my parents.
allan14 31 Jan 2013
hi there i have a court order in place but my ex has stopped contact since she recieved a letter from my solicitor asking for more contact as i was having him extra i wanted it to be leagal im allowed more. That day she came round to my house with her family shouting abuse saying i kidnapped my son she then proceded to call the police who came i showed them my txt i had saying i could have him and they left him in my care but said the next day i would have to give him back. Im stuck to what to do as i was refused contact and when we finally agreed a meeting he sat there and told me he didnt want to see me again he was only 5 he has now turned 6. i didnt know what to do for the best so i havent seen or spoken to him, i keep in contact with his school and watched his xmas play but he didnt know i was there, to day i spoke to his school and there secon officer who has said i should seek help in getting contact again as he is to young to make this decision, i txted his mum today again she says he doesnt want to see me. please help im stuck
Tony 25 Jan 2013
How about if the partner (mother) has been using controlling behaviour and emotional abuse for many years and the child (14 ) says that she wishes to see her when she chooses not when the court dictates.?
Confused?? 17 Jan 2013
Good morningI am going back to court on 13 Feb as my ex wife has taken using the children against me this is born out from the fact that the CSA have said that I do not have to pay maintenance.We have 4 children the eldest being 11 and the youngest 4. contact had generaly been good with it being every other weekend and every tuesday over night, I aslo have them during school holidays. I have a great relationship with them and they have ask if they could have some one to one time with me but they have been told this will never happen even though I offered to do this on her weekend which would have meant that she had one less to look after??? Contact with the children had been agreed for the year but this has not been kept to and over the last 3 months I have only had the children 1 weekend a month this is because I go to college once a month but this had been planned so that it did not conflict with the contact arrangements. However at the end of september inorder for it to continue it meant that I was to have the children for 2 consecative weekends this was agreed but was later changed which meant that my college now clashed with my weekends with the children my ex wifes responce to this was "if you choose college over your children thats your problem" as a result of this I only had them 1 weekenda month.Contact over christmas was agreed and it also part of a contact order but again this was not kept too her defence is that the children have chosen nort to see me their choice not hers. I then got a letter from my eldest explaining why, but it is clear to see that he did not write it and I was told by my other children that he and his mother had writen it. She verbably abuses me in front of the kids only last week she said infront of them that they should be embarresed to have a pathetic father like me (Nice). so I'm back at court at my expense to se what the court can do I have submitted my sons letter along with the agreed contact arrangement that my ex wife and I agreed on and some photographs of txt messages of agreements that were not kept to.I must add that as part of the divorce settlement my ex got £60,000 she lives in a lovely new 4 bed town house furneshed like a show house. she is in a relationship and has her mother and father running around after her. as well as getting every benifit you can think of as well as claiming that she works ???All I want is to see my kids as much as I can and for them to see me as and when they want to what are your thought on what the court may or may not do ??Many Thanks
MR PLACID 16 Jan 2013
keep up the good work, i wish you had been around 5 years ago, when i had major issues with my ex wife. however, despite the fact that im dealing with my ex more effectively these days, your info and draft letters are still of immense value thank you

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