A Guide to Child Maintenance Payments

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A Guide to Child Maintenance Payments

The second in our series of separated dads guides relates to child maintenance and the issues surrounding it.

To get a quick estimate of what you might need to pay or receive based on your circumstances, you can use our free Child Maintenance Calculator.

Child maintenance is designed to make parents responsible for maintaining their children. This means that non-resident parents (who do not live with the child) make periodical payments to resident parents (who do live with the child and are responsible for the child's day-to-day care).

Parents may agree these payments via a maintenance agreement. The Child Maintenance Service manages the child maintenance schemes. You can contact the Child Maintenance Service on 0800 171 2345 for advice.

The Child Maintenance Service manages the 2012 onwards child maintenance scheme. There is a £20 fee for applying to the Child Maintenance Service. In the first instance, you can call Child Maintenance Options on 0800 988 0988 for free advice.

What is a family-based child maintenance arrangement?

A family-based maintenance arrangement is an agreement between parties made out of court. This allows you to preserve good relations and address your wishes more specifically. It can also help reduce costs. If you and your former partner have a good working relationship, a family-based child maintenance arrangement can be an amicable way to agree matters mutually.

How is child maintenance calculated?

Gross income
Child maintenance via CMS is based upon your gross weekly income. If you are self-employed, your gross income is based upon your total taxable profits.

The CMS will calculate a suitable child support amount upon application by either the resident or non-resident parent. However parents may agree a different amount.

Much like when you pay council tax, certain categories of people pay a reduced rate or are exempt from paying child support altogether.

Exemptions and deductions
You may be exempt or qualify for a reduced rate if you:

  • have a gross weekly income of less than £7.
  • are in prison
  • are under 16 years old
  • are a 16- to 19-year-old who has left school but is registered for certain types of government-approved training courses
  • are a 16- to 19-year-old who is in full-time, non-advanced education (up
  • to and including A-level or equivalent standard
  • are a 16- to 17-year-old who receives Income Support, Income-based Jobseeker's Allowance or Income-related Employment and Support Allowance
  • are a 16- to 17-year-old who is included in their partner's claim for Income Support, Income-based Jobseeker's Allowance or Income related Employment and Support Allowance
  • are in a care home or independent hospital, for which you are receiving help with fees.

Shared care
If your children stay with you overnight, you may be entitled to a reduction of your child maintenance payments. They must stay with you a minimum average of one night per week.

If you share care equally, neither of you has to pay maintenance to each other.

If you don't tell the CMS about your shared care arrangements, they will estimate that the children stay with you one night a week. This means you'll usually pay one-seventh less maintenance.

What happens if I have children from a new relationship?

If you have other children this could affect the amount of child support you will pay. Other children relevant to the equation are those for whom you (as the non-resident parent) or your partner receive child benefit for.

Other relevant children are taken into account before the calculation is completed.

When do Child Maintenance payments stop?

Child Support is paid until the relevant child is at least 16 years old.

If the child continues to study full-time (at least 12 hours per week) after the age of 16, you will still have to pay to support your child. Full-time studies include A-level standard but do not include university / professional studies after this level. Child maintenance payments will end when the course finishes or when the child turns 20 years old, even if they are still in full-time studies.

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What happens if I dispute that I am the parent of a child?

When parentage is in dispute, a maintenance calculation should not be done by the CMS until the matter is resolved. There are some exceptions when parentage will be assumed however:

  • If you were married to the mother at any point between conception and birth of the child
  • You are registered as the father on the birth certificate
  • You refuse to take a DNA test or a DNA test shows you are the father
  • There has been a previous declaration of parentage
  • Court proceedings have decided you are the father

If you deny parentage, you must communicate this to the CMS and a DNA test can be arranged.

What could happen if I don't pay my child support payments?

The CMS has various enforcement methods available to ensure child support is paid. These include:

  • Deduction from earnings
  • Committal to prison for up to six weeks
  • Disqualification from driving

If one of you dies, what will happen to the children?

Whilst we never want to think about death, it is an important and responsible thing to consider when you have children. You need to know that they will be looked after should anything happen to you.

Your situation may be slightly different. ask a question below ↓ and our editorial team will reply with our advice.

Guardians

In your will, you have the opportunity to name a guardian (or guardians) to look after your children if you are no longer here to do so. A trusted family friend is a popular option. Guardians are not paid to look after your children, but will usually get money from your estate to help with the additional costs of caring for children. It is usually better to name just one guardian, as problems can be caused if co-guardians separate in the future. However, if the other parent has parental responsibility, then they can challenge any such provision in the will. As in all cases, the court's main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child's best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.

Other parent

If the resident parent were to die, the non-resident parent has rights to the children as a parent. This does not mean that you will automatically get residency of a child you have not previously lived with. However the court will look to see if you are a suitable parent to have full custody. If you are suitable, you will get custody over any named guardian in your partner's will. If you are not suitable, custody is likely to go to the named guardian, which is why it is important to name someone in your will who you trust.

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Need to write to the CMS?

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SeparatedDads Editor 07/10/2026 at 8:59 pm
@Sanj You've got a lot going on, so take it a step at a time. On the maintenance side, CMS will base it on your gross income, but the mortgage you pay on the home where the kids live doesn't automatically reduce it, which is the bit that stings. Get a realistic figure first so you know what you're dealing with: https://www.separateddads.co.uk/tools/child-maintenance-calculator

If you believe she's understating her income, you can ask CMS for a variation on grounds of undeclared income rather than going straight to HMRC. Given the arrests and possible Occupation Order, please get a family solicitor involved properly, this is too tangled to wing it.
Sanj 07/10/2026 at 8:59 pm
Greetings all,

This is my first post and I am a bit of a pickle.

I have been living in a loveless marriage for several years, my wife has never supported me financially, emotionally or mentally. We have three girls between us all under the age of 10.

I pay a £2500 mortgage and all other living expenses inc childrens private educatio, insurance, life insurance, car, shopping etc. The only expenses I do not pay are council tax and gas/electric bills.

My wife has been running a very successful online business wholeselling on Amazon. She probably makes more than me but she has never contributed to the mortgage or other generic expenses. Even the council tax and gas/electric bills are an argument.

We are separating, in process of a divorce but living under the same roof.

This year she has had me arrested 4 times, I am currently on bail for 3 months and the allegations are domestic abuse. I beleive see is going down the legal aid route. I have had all NFA's as she has been fabricating these allegations.

The issues I have is that now I am outside of the house she is applying for child maintenance. I really cant afford these payments as I will have no income left for myself after paying for the mortgage in which and the children live in. I have considered a temporary garden building where I can stay. But there is a high chance she might get the Occupational Order. Although I run a business from the house, my access maybe limited.

She is declaring self employed income less than £7000 but this is not true as she is lying. I have considered reporting her to HMRC but I have been advised that this can be beneficial for me if she claims benefits because I may have to pay less?

I wanted some advice on this matter please?
SeparatedDads Editor 17/05/2026 at 1:32 pm
@Shiffyscott You're right that it feels one-sided, but unfortunately CMS treats each case separately, so your liability for the two with their mum doesn't get offset against what she owes you for the third. Push CMS to move her case to Collect & Pay and start enforcement (deduction from earnings, bank account, etc.) since she's been in arrears since March. Keep everything in writing and if they drag their feet, raise a formal complaint and escalate to the Independent Case Examiner. Your MP can also give them a nudge.
Shiffyscott 07/08/2024 at 5:17 pm
I’ve been paying maintenance for 2 of my children but back in august last year I took my 3 rd child from the mother and have temporary custody. I put forward to the cms for maintenance from her and since March she ain’t paid nothing. The cms know this but tell me I still need to pay my side otherwise they will put me on collect and pay.
What can I do about it ?
Because this seems one sided to me.
Ed 27/05/2024 at 2:55 pm
Hi, due to time taken off work to deal with a number of health issues (and the CMS using incorrect data - not being updated on the dates I was initially off work and claiming benefits, which they have refused to revise because of the time elapsed since. Part of this stems from a breakdown when I was unable to manage my finances) I have got a fair amount of arrears. They're currently taking the flat rate from my UC, but I've been awarded PIP recently. I'm going to use some of the PIP money to reduce the arrears, but will the CMS automatically do this, or is PIP something they can't touch? Obviously, PIP is to help with the daily costs associated with my disabilities, so I'm unsure.
Barney 30/01/2024 at 8:42 am
I'm paying Maintenance for my 16 year old son who was in full time education at college but has since dropped out at the beginning of this year and I am unable to find any concrete answers as to if I still have to pay or not. I am willing to pay him direct an amount as I struggled to pay tha amount CSA set. So my question is do I still have to pay or not??? Any advice greatly appreciated
DannyJ 09/08/2023 at 5:39 pm
Five year old daughter spends 8 consecutive nights with mum followed by 6 with me.
I am not willing to pay the ‘advised’ maintenance direct to her bank for near 50/50 custody, almost 10% of my salary this cannot be right?
Mum threatening to go through CMS, and also complaining that it is not me ‘looking after’ daughter.
Daughter gets on great with my girlfriend and mother so they help out with some school, evenings, weekend babysitting as I have work and sometimes other commitments.
Any advise from similar situation would be appreciated.
Abused father 06/08/2023 at 11:29 am
I too would like to know how you get the cms to listen when the paying party has a dispute about the child leave education before it is 18 years old then deciding to return after a year's break and still claim for cms because I was led to believe if they leave education or dont attend before their 18th birthday then all cma payments stop. I've since been told the payments will only stop when child benefits stop and not before,so this means that the receiving party will still get cma whether they attend or not is this correct.
Martymack 20/07/2023 at 3:12 am
Mu ex-wife (who I have two children with) made false allegations to the CMS about me receiving extra money on top of my Universal Credit. The CMS has rejected her accusations, but has allowed an appeal which will be taken to HM Courts in due time. Does anyone know if the courts will automatically go through my personal details (eg:bank accounts etc.)as part of this process; or are the allegations likely to be rejected once the HMRC has been consulted ?
Any advice would be most welcome.
Chris 12/07/2023 at 9:44 am
Your a clown that’s why you hide bree because if she come to me she would drop you in heart beat junkie whore love dogs more then your child
Moaning minnie 12/07/2023 at 6:20 am
My husband hasn't seen his daughter for 7 years now she is now 17 no contact whatsoever. We still have a yearly letter come thru from child maintenance to pay the ex so we do but how do they know that she is still in education and not an apprenticeship earning money and the greedy ex is just taking our money
Eric 27/06/2023 at 7:26 pm
Hopefully someone can help with a quick question I'm finding it impossible to get answered. I've paid a private maintenance payment for years to my lad's mum. She claims the child benefit too. My lad is 17 and doing A levels so I know I have to keep paying and I'm happy to. However a few weeks ago he moved out and is sharing a flat with mates. His Mum doesn't help out financially in any way so my question is... do I have to keep paying her? If he's not living there is she still entitled to receive payments? I don't want to get in trouble but it seems wrong to pay when none goes to my lad. Can I not pay my lad an amount instead and put the rest towards his future education costs? Any advice appreciated
Bertie 26/06/2023 at 11:45 am
I separated from my sons mum 12 years ago and have always paid half of the mortgage, an agreed amount every month for maintenance and other things such as trips etc. He is soon to be 18 and is in full time education (A Levels). he spends at least one night a week with me and every other weekend (more during holidays). his mum says i have to continue to pay half the mortgage and maintenance until he leaves university as she cant afford to get a mortgage to buy me out of the house. I am retired with a small pension. What are my rights regarding payments and the mortgage?
MB 26/04/2023 at 6:39 pm
My brother has just been advised he has to pay £165.00 per week for 1 child that lives with her mother despite him having their other daughter in his full time care where he doesn’t receive a penny nor has he claimed child benefit. They had an arrangement in place but greed has got the better of her and she clearly has no thought for the child in his care (her daughter!) and the impact this has for that child. She works, also has child maintenance from another father for another child. The poor logic of CMA is a sham… if you have two children and have 1 each surely that’s just like a shared care arrangement and none of you should be paying anything to the other parent. No wonder there is a rise in men’s MH and suicide! Who needs that amount of money per week for 1 child?!
Caredad 01/02/2023 at 7:06 pm
The section on shared care stating if there is a shared care is in place, no payments to or from either parent are required is not entirely correct. I have my daughter 50% of the time but both the CMS and the tribunal courts require me to pay a.significant amount in CM payments as they have determined that a primary career needs to be established, which is her mother. Incredible frustrating, stressful and financially difficult but neither the courts or the CMS look at things logically.
Loulou 29/01/2023 at 9:26 am
My husbands 16 year old has gone no contact! She has dropped out of college & moved to a different part of the country. Bio mum has now made a claim through cms & to cb stating daughter in full time education. How can my husband confirm if his daughter is in education?
Whinny 06/01/2023 at 9:19 am
My partner has 1 daughter from his marriage, who is now aged 17. Unfortunately, we don't have any kind of contact with her. We don't know if she is still in education. We heard from a reliable source that she is working full-time, but the CSA says she is on a traning course to become a carer. I didn't know there were long term full time courses for carers. The CSA won't give my partner any details as to the length of the course etc., Is there a way that my partner can find out what they are doing as their biological father?
Regards,
Gill
Sj 23/10/2022 at 10:09 am
My husband has 3 daughters from his previous marriage. The eldest is about to turn 18 and the middle one is 17. Unfortunately, we have no kind of contact with them anymore. We don't know if they are still in education. We heard from a reliable source that they are both working full-time. Is there a way that My Husband can find out what they are doing as their biological father?
Carrie 11/10/2022 at 4:02 pm
My child’s other parent…dad… pays me money every week for our child, if I go through csm to ensure he keeps up with these payments, will they try to recover any payments he has already made to me, as this is what he is telling me
Exasperated Dad 23/09/2022 at 7:04 pm
I have been divorced for 2 years and paying maintenance for my daughter my son decided to live with me so one child each living with each parent how does maintenance work
Truth 30/05/2022 at 9:42 pm
Samantha I will never( forgive you )not only did you repeatedly cheat on me and on top off that you sent me to prison ,you are the one that should be begging for my forgiveness. But you think your victim I personally think your the one with mental health .and on top off everything you still won't let me meet bree .just a heads up dont ever come near me because you are the only person( I want to kill and im not afraid off spending the rest off my life in prison for doing it .)you haven't got a distant bone in your body you are (junkie Thief that has sex with under age boys that has put my daughter in jeopardy) .I want to f you up kick your teeth out then cut your throat because your the one thats evil .and you thought sending love hearts on social media you would get me ha ha ha you loser .
Moz 30/05/2022 at 12:36 pm
My 16 year old daughter just started a paid apprenticeship and goes college 1 day a week do i still pay child maintenance
JB 13/05/2022 at 5:02 pm
Any advise please
My ex have changed the surname of my son with my concern.
Do i have to report it? and to who?
What happen to my case maintenance case, now his name has change.
JB 13/05/2022 at 4:57 pm
My ex have change the surname of my son to hers, without my concern.
Do i have to report to who?
Do i still have to pay child maintenance if his surname is not mine anymore.
ACass19 30/04/2022 at 12:42 am
My husbands ex wife has gone to the csa after him paying maintenance for 6+ years since they separated. He was briefly unemployed due to being paid off and had no money to give her while I covered the bills. She has claimed he only has them less than 52 days a year. We have them every second weekend so that falls into the next bracket 52-103 (we also have them a week in easter/summer/October & some days at xmas). He has called csa but they are still saying they base off this calculation! Along with his previous years earnings, which he no longer makes due to his new job paying less! What can we do!? This is causing so much stress & anxiety! She wants direct pay but will not speak to him either!
Bella 26/04/2022 at 11:32 am
Hi my hubbys ex went to the CSA when they had a brief separation. They got back together until 2018 when they separated and got divorced! The CSA are after him from 2015, but they were together then! We have evidence that proves that they were together! Can they still make
Him pay from 2015? The ex has made a false claim In our eyes and this shouldn’t the case? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Lucy 07/04/2022 at 6:34 pm
My partner wants to see his 17 yr old daughter but she doesn’t want to and my partner feels she is being manipulated by his ex (mum). She is now asking for maintenance and saying he never has care of her…. But if he had the choice he would have her half the time! Is there anything that can be done here? It’s not that he is refusing to look after her - it’s that his daughter is for some reason not wanting to see him anymore..
TC 07/04/2022 at 4:36 pm
If the mother has kicked both her children out one child 15 years old and the other 17 both in education and are both now living with the father can he claim child maintenance from the mother?
Thank you
Sb 31/03/2022 at 10:51 am
My daughter has started working while at college and my ex is taking money from her wages. Do I still pay the full maintenance that was agreed ?
Holger 28/03/2022 at 8:48 pm
Hello - I have three children who I am paying Child maintenance for. I am paying for my two girls in Australia and for my girl in the UK. The UM Child Maintenance people do not, however, recognise the fact that I am paying for three children (two of them in Australia) and calculate the maintenance payment for my UK Child as though I was only supporting her.
Can somebody please help me and advise how I can get this corrected?
I have spoken to the DWP/ CMS line month after month but it seems people are unable to help.
I would appreciate any advice anybody would have.
Best regards!
Eg 06/10/2021 at 9:08 am
This country must stop rewarding women who plan pregnancy, trick men and then don't need to work - the child is their meal ticket. My son was making regular direct debit payments but nasty ex wanted CSA involved so she could buy more clothes and takeaways. It wasn't about the child. Now we can't make contributions to a little savings account for the child for when she's older, because lazy, greedy mother is getting it. Courts should allow dad's to save regularly for their child's future, not line the benefit claiming mothers purse with more money she doesn't earn. What does it teach the poor child, not striving, working, achieving, but sit back, claim all you can. It really is shocking.
Cockneythug 13/09/2021 at 6:22 pm
How much of the payments i make to my ex does she actually receive
Jules 01/09/2021 at 7:00 am
My sons father used to pay child support through the csa which we know is no longer a going concern.

He has just stopped paying for our son as he is 16 yet our son is continuing on to full time education.

I informed him via text that he needs to continue to pay until he is 18 yet he has ignored any further communication with me. What can I do now?
Gary 27/08/2021 at 5:21 pm
Hi, I have one child living with me and the other living with his mum. I am aware of the shared care rule with the CMS whereby if one or more children spend their time equally with each parent then neither pays but apparently this doesn’t take into account the equally shared burden of one child with each parent?!? Surely both scenarios are in effect the same thing so any ideas on how to get CMS to be reasonable here? Thanks.
Tony 12/08/2021 at 4:37 pm
My daughter is now 18 and has just finished her college course. Now that course has completed do I have to carry on paying maintenance if the following happens.

1 she starts a completely different course to the one she has just taken.

2 if she doesn’t start the course till January.
(Do I stop paying till January)

3 if she gets a job for a year but then leaves that job to go back to college.
Do I then have to start paying again?
John 12/08/2021 at 11:34 am
I have a set arrangment to have my two children every 2nd Wknd for 2 nights and through CSA we have a calculated amount I pay each month, however I am taking my children away on holiday for 11 full days should I still have to pay the same amount this month?
Darling 05/08/2021 at 12:52 pm
If a dad pays maintenance and his ex has either remarried or living with sum1as man and wife. Does the dad have to pay more towards his child if a payment plan is set in place. As he pays her monthly but as she's going into secondary school she wants more money. Is this fair on the dad. He's a work colleague of mine.
Mike 29/07/2021 at 5:42 pm
I currently have my son once a week I pay £45 a week maintenance.
I've been asked to have him for 2 weeks during summer holidays, should I pay maintenance for those 2 weeks?
SH 27/07/2021 at 6:41 pm
I am separated from my ex, we have 4 kids together, 15,12,7,6, she has kicked the 12 year old out due to his temper and he is now living with me, the 15 year will be leaving the family home at the weekend apparently to live with her family member. ( the 15 doesn't want to live with me). How do i go on with child maintenance? I can't afford to pay 4 kids, 2 that don't live with her and have to pay extra for my 12 year old. Is there anything I can do

Thanks
Mike 22/07/2021 at 7:16 pm
Hi, my son dropped out of full time education a year ago and started full time employment. Now 18yrs old he has decided to resume full time education - must I resume maintenance costs?
D 12/07/2021 at 4:53 pm
Hi, I'm paying maintance for my child who's 18 and will be continuing in full time non advanced aproved Education from September, studying L3 (A level) . I've been told that they are looking for a part time job. Will I still have to pay maintenance if they have a part time job and still in education? Thank you.
David 04/07/2021 at 3:53 pm
If paying child main bit chil ears over 300 a week why do I still pay for her shes at collage
Cfc 12/06/2021 at 5:36 am
If my ex gets a new boyfriend do I still have to pay maintenance in full
Steve 08/06/2021 at 9:04 pm
Hi I was wondering if someone could give me some help/advice my son is 21 a payment plan was put in place through the csa with his mother when he was growing up which I stuck too but there was areas at the beginning I don’t pay for my son now but Im still getting a deduction order out of my wages for the debt even tho the mother isn’t getting any of it is this right can they still just take what they want ?
Sha 08/06/2021 at 5:14 pm
Hi, I hasn’t received my child maintenance this month and have found out that my daughters father is in prison and will be there for 12 months. What happeneds to my child maintenance and if I dont get it while he is in prison. Will it be back paid when he gets out? TIA x
C 31/05/2021 at 5:06 pm
Hi I've a son who is 16 and will be going to do his A levels on September but also has a part time job. Do I still pay maintenance to his mum until he's 18? Thanks in advance
Please think! 26/05/2021 at 7:15 am
My God, I was looking for some advice. This is pure horror, all that fighting on websites. You damage the children by doing that! This is what my boyfriend his ex also is doing... Don’t you all (who seek for negatieve attention) even posting things on Facebook! Feel ashamed of yourself, putting you first and then the children, So the whole world would be against him. (Always two sides of the story). But you need brains to see that. You know what.... I feel sorry for most dad’s! They get arrested because of lies or exaggeration. And it seems so easy here to do! We never talk dirt about his ex when one of his children is around, one she still keeps away from his dad and it causes psychological problems for both of them and us, talking dirt, never! because it is still his mom. She is just looking for attention to express her hate. Even uses her health conditions to make things look worse (I feel sorry for her) I put children first! And in private we talk about issues, but never put the children in the middle! They are damaged already for the rest of their lives! Talk to eachother! With or without counseling. But stop talking dirt about one of the two or both and damaging the children!! They struggle for the rest of their lives and their relationships.... just think about it please!
Grimby 24/05/2021 at 8:17 pm
Seeking advice
I'm a separated dad. My ex and I were short term but unexpected twins. She kicked me out 2019 because I was getting in the way of her single parent benefits. When moving she said I needed to move to a place near a station so she could get the boys to and from. A couple of weeks after I moved she stopped access and we arranged family mediation and agreed on when I could see the boys. We also agreed an amount to pay her. This continued to lockfown when she requested I have them every weekend. I agreed and in July I requested a weekend to myself. She refused for weeks until eventually agreeing late August. I had one weekend and on returning them she said it was the last time I would see them for a long time. She then prevented access for 3 months resulting in me applying to court. She also then submitted that I was at risk of kidnapping and we are still sitting court for claims of abuse. The court has ruled I can see them as we had agreed prior lockdown. She has also since now put a claim to CMS for an amount of arrears despite agreement and also now insisting on more than what was agreed. I love my children to the ends of the world and will do everything I can to give them the best life but I cannot afford her demands and will not be able to give them any form of what I hoped to see my kids have.
My only option of survival is to remove them entirely from my life and hope that when the kids are at an age they ask about me they find it in their heart to forgive me, hopefully I can build a relationship then. Can CMS honestly believe that removing a father from two children is the best interests of the children or am I seeing it completely wrong? Input would be great
Kenny77 19/05/2021 at 10:28 am
My son who is 18 finishes his college course this year. As he has decided to cut me out of his life and not tell me how he is getting on, does his mother have to provide proof if he stays on at college next school year ?
Mike 17/05/2021 at 12:11 pm
My daughter is 18 and is just finishing sixth form college. My Question is, when do I stop paying the mother. I will continue to support my daughter as always but from what I understand payments stop now she’s going to college or uni after the summer
Ali 15/05/2021 at 6:19 pm
I have a daughter she 17 years old don’t have a job and don’t go to College can her father still pay maintenance
Mich 07/05/2021 at 2:43 pm
In response to CHris. It’s relative to circumstances & perspective. Obviously most decent parents understand the necessity to support their children including financially.


Equally I am aware that some paying parents are possibly going through real hardships & on top of that are forbidden from seeing their children, by the receiving parent (as payments are reduced when child/children spend nights with paying parent).

Hence why some parents may be anxious or even excited about when the torment of not being able to see there child will end (which will possibly be when payments end).
And 06/05/2021 at 6:45 am
Any advice please. I have a daughter who is 17, 18 in July. She leaves school 28th may, after her final A level assessments. She is taking full time work. Do I need to continue maintenance payments until August as web info suggests. Can’t find any specific instances where the child has taken full time work immediately after leaving school despite the term officially ending Aug 31.
Cb 05/05/2021 at 7:36 pm
I’m thinking of going for full custody, Just wondering will child maintenance stop?
CHris 04/05/2021 at 7:53 pm
I'm surprised how many people are checking when their 'responsibility' to support their kids can end. Just because your child has finished school or whatever doesn't mean that they don't need ongoing support. This is regardless of what the law says. So many dads just want to pay the absolute bare minimum that is enforceable in law. I want my kids to continue to have my support regardless of whether I'm still with their mum. That's what being a decent father is all about, not just providing the least amount possible.
Satch 03/05/2021 at 7:57 pm
My 16 year old has left full time education and works 30 hours a week...do i still pay maintenance?
Skinny 29/04/2021 at 2:50 pm
My partner and I are going through a custardy battle, we have four children we both have live’s with order for two children each. I have been paying child maintenance for the two that does not live with me; I was told recently that I don’t have to pay it as we are both responsible for two children, is this correct?
Rob 24/04/2021 at 4:18 pm
My 12 year old son used to stay with me every other weekend. I recently moved in with my fiancée and her children, whom my son has previously spent time with and everyone got on well. His mother doesn’t like this change and is emotionally blackmailing him and bad-mouthing us. This has resulted in him no longer wanting to stay with us. I’m extremely upset about this anyway, but she’s now asking for more maintenance as I no longer have him overnight. We’d be happy if he continued to stay every other weekend, so do I have to pay more maintenance when it’s his choice to stay away?
L 12/04/2021 at 8:52 pm
Hi, my daughter turns 18 this summer and is currently doing A levels. She is planning to go to Uni after but would the cma/csa payments stop after she finished her A levels? Not trying to get out of paying as I do provide for her on top of this monthly payment to the mother and she is over at mine quite a bit. It's more so because I know none of the money I pay each month is going towards her so want to be giving this direct to my daughter each month instead. Thanks
The truth hurts 10/04/2021 at 9:30 am
I came to this site looking for advice on child maintenance and I’m in shock to see how many comments you have all made in regards to not wanting to pay to support your child.
If your child lived with you how much do you think that would actually cost you? And the only contribution you have to make is a small proportion of what you earn. You’re not paying for their mothers lifestyle (as most people believe), you’re paying to help feed your child, put a roof over their head, clothe them...
At the end of the day two people made the child, two people should pay for them.
Fireblade 07/04/2021 at 7:09 pm
Hello I've been paying for my kids for years, I found out by my ex, they are not attending collage, but getting work sent by email or sent by post, is this still aloud, coz there not doing 16 hours a week as here's in bed all day many thanks colin
Drapes. 03/04/2021 at 4:45 pm
Hi,

My child turns 18 at the end of September 2021.
She is currently working part time and is also at college doing GCSE maths and CTech Level 3 health & Social.

When would I stop paying child support please?
O 01/04/2021 at 5:55 pm
My daughter is now 19 and I understand she is going uni . I’m guessing that she must have done her A levels at school. And finished full time education at 18 .the child benefit office have told me that child benefit can’t be claimed if she is at uni . The uni is advanced education and my question is do I still have to pay CMS if she is a uni ?
John Mitchell 01/04/2021 at 1:14 pm
Hi, My son Turns 16 November 2021 My Understanding is I would still need to make maintenance payments Until August 2022 as he will still receive Child Benefit. I have no Communication with his Mother or My Son. I have no way of to prove he’s actually going to stay on at School or If it’s collage he’s going to be going. Can I stop my payment And receive proof of attendance. I pay his mother directly vie bank transfer the Amount has all been arranged by Child maintenance Service. Any advice would be excellent thanks.
CGF 01/04/2021 at 11:41 am
I have a son aged 18, and I have been paying child support since he was 8,
I have called the college to check if he’s attending and his mother does not speak to me nor does my son.
How can I check that my son does attend college ?
Do I still have to pay the payments ??
I am unsure how long he is at college or if he actually goes.
Jas 01/04/2021 at 9:26 am
My father never paid child maintenance from the moment I was born until I turned 18 and left full time education. My mom really struggled and I feel she still needs the money she lost out on to keep a roof over our head. Can we get a CMS agreement even though I am now over 18? I have a letter stating he has paid nothing but surely he still technically owes my mom this money?
Sammysam99 23/03/2021 at 6:23 pm
Hi , my hubby daughter , is moving away for college. He’s ex was soon on the phone for more money towards college fees . What I would like to know , if his daughter moves away from home to go to college, will he still have to pay Maintance . As we can’t afford to pay Maintance & college fees etc etc
Bunty 15/03/2021 at 9:23 pm
Ex wife never told csa that my child had left fulltime education and started work, 16 months later I found out and ceased paying, informed csa....and told them over £4700 had been taken from me wrongly.....they did not want to know and made up every excuse not to do anything.....why are these people allowed to throw us in jail without any reason, but don't care if the father is finacially abused?
DJM 15/03/2021 at 3:03 pm
I have a question as I'm a little puzzled. I live in Sweden, I have two children in the UK with an ex-partner. I pay the whole of the mortgage and other bills. Is this in anyway deductible to the CMA payment?
Mrp611 24/02/2021 at 4:14 pm
I currently pay child support through a family based arrangement but for the last 12 months 2 of my 3 children have lived with me.
Is it correct I should continue full payments to my ex ?
She currently still claims the child benefit and universal credit
Queenside 22/02/2021 at 8:03 pm
Hi, my daughter has just turned 16, she has just got a job and will starting soon after that then she will be going onto do college course in September.
Will I still have to pay maintenance when she goes to college or does it stop once she starts work ?
Jay 17/02/2021 at 12:45 pm
Hi my child has turnt 16 in November and has had her own child how long do I have to pay child maintenance for thanks jay
Mm 15/02/2021 at 2:18 pm
If your ex partner earns a lot more than you do but they split from you and then you pay maintance how is this fair for the guy in this case me who earns alot less than the ex/children's mother and I have had to rent a place so I can have my children while she still gets about 25% of my income a month
Tray 15/02/2021 at 12:35 pm
Hi my son wants to move in with his girlfriend and her family he is only 17 will I still have to pay child maintenance
Ping 10/02/2021 at 9:54 am
Hi! My daughter lost her mother my ex wife in 2016. Before that I had my daughter 2 nights a week shared care. Since her mums death she has lived with myself and my new wife. Since the start of 2020 she seems and sided with scheming grandparents (Mother parents)
and has said she doesn't like living with us anymore and her grandparents have taken to live there without my full consent. Her grandparents keep saying her happiness is their only priority. I think my daughter is playing one off the other because she proabably knows she gets her own way there more and perhaps thinks now she can get a better quality of life there. She has been living there full time now sine the Sep 2020 and coming here occasionally when she wants something with out my consent. Her grandparents are now seeking child maintenance through CMS even though i have not consented to this? Where do I stand with this please as her father ? I have tried to reconcile with her but she adamant she wants to live there now. I have provided a loving home and done nothing wrong to deserve this treatment?
Bob 26/01/2021 at 10:59 pm
My daughter finishes her college in September which has taken her 2 years. She turns 18 in June. She has decided to take another course, I am sure she was persuaded, do I still have to pay maintenance? Would happily support an apprenticeship but loathed to pay for a pointless course.
Alfy 19/01/2021 at 10:59 am
I am pay a volontary child maintenance
But now my ex wants more money even if I got the children for 2/3 nights a week
A) do l have to include the holiday days when I do the calculation
B) if l use the CSA or CMS do the charge extra?
Thank you
Dan 13/01/2021 at 6:29 pm
My ex partner who is Hungarian and leaves my daughter with me every other weekend and on multiple occasions throughout the year for weeks on end when she returns to Hungary has now decided she’s going to go through CSA rather than our civil agreement of 7 years. Meaning that instead of £60 a week (plus I paid for all my daughters school meals, clothes and school uniform etc on top of this, including when she goes back to Hungary for weeks and leaves our daughter with me) she now wants £100 a week and csa won’t take into consideration that I do have more daughter for more than just every other weekend. What do I do
Mrp611 12/01/2021 at 7:30 pm
I have recently become divided and we have sorted out all finances.
We have 3 kids ,2 who have lived with me permanently since March 2020, the 3rd I have 2 or 3 nights a week.
I still pay child support to the ex for all 3 kids but now feel I should only be paying about a third of what we agreed as theoretically I am paying for them twice
Any similar situations out there ?
James 15/12/2020 at 11:29 pm
I got a girl pregnant whilst I was abroad and we have come to the mutual agreement that I can see the baby. The problem is I live around 5 hours away and the baby hasn’t been born yet. How much money would I be expected to pay for the set up of the child - ie, equipment, cot etc.
thanks
James
Woody 09/12/2020 at 9:33 pm
Hi all. I separated from my wife in March after finding out she was cheating. I left behind my 2 girls. I pay regular maintenance of 100 pounds a week that we came to the agreement of between us. Not CSA. I have my girls every other weekend for the whole weekend and I travel 3 hours each way to see them and take them with me as she moved away when we separated. My question is, if I have my girls for a week or more, should my ex be sending me maintenance payments as I send her or do I carry on sending it to her even when my girls are with me? Thank you for any help given
Miki 08/12/2020 at 12:40 am
Hi all l have a daughter she is 18 years old and started a university got a student loan but still lives with her mother and l still pay a maintenance to her mother l don't know if l should stop paying her mum the maintenance.
Sam 02/12/2020 at 10:53 pm
Hi,

Sorry to hear about the parent struggling to see their kids. You have the right to have your children and should seek legal advice.

I have been dealing with various changes with my CMS from employed to not to self employed and employed again on various pay scales with a voluntary arrangement monitored by CMS.
The CMS maintenance calculator is always a good reference point. CMS calculate your contribution based on the number of “nights” your children stay with you- which is sometimes the reason you would sense resistance in having your children- and your last reported annual income. Either or both can significantly amplify or reduce your costs. Over 20% up or down on your income should be communicated to CMS as well of employment status.
Be patient with CMS, ask for name and if they log the file and you will get to a fair result. I have had my fair share of challenges but the more proactive and accurate you are, the less painful it gets.
Greg 01/12/2020 at 11:42 am
Looking for advice here. My son has been kept from me based on accusations with no evidence and this has been going on for a year. This has had a huge effect on my mental health and things that used to be hard for me to stay on top of due to organisation have become seemingly impossible due to lack of focus and depression. I have just revived a alerter from cms saying that I owe just over 550 which I really don't mind paying but I don't want to be punished or fined. The way I saw it is that paying her money to just be told i can't see my own boy was torture. I couldn't bring myself to do it. Any advice would be great.
Gaz 29/11/2020 at 11:28 am
I have 2 kids kayani and Corey with exwife Zara am paying £290 up to £400 some month Corey 16- Kayani 18 in 4month I don’t see or talk to them for years because of the mother so I just wanted to know how long will I have to keep paying child support to my ex wife Zara
Gaz - 29-Nov-20 @ 11:25 AM
Jamie 19/11/2020 at 9:54 pm
Hi , i have one daughter i pay 200pm to her mum . I have her on my weekends , which are Thursday/Friday. My shift pattern at work is now changing and she is telling me i have to pay for the Thursday/Friday child care .So we can both work full time . This will be over £300pm plus the £200.. is this fair ?? Many thanks
Richard 16/11/2020 at 11:00 am
Hello can someone help or advise on here. I have battling the CMS for 3 years over wrong assessment of child support. I divorced and sadly went bankrupt same year I moved from paye and earning around 150k to the following year ( when CMS) started earning around 26k. For nearly 2 years the gave me wrong advice on proving my earnings and even last year told me my tax return in hard copy was fine only for me to then find out it was rejected and they then again used my old paye income from 2016! Thankfully I am now paying the right amount each month bu now have a £41,000 debt to CMS because of these miscalculation!! Throughout these 3 years i have stayed in constant touch with them and complained on several occasions always stating they have got everything wrong they simply ignore everything and it's now making me ill and depressed.
Lauren 13/11/2020 at 4:22 pm
Hi I'm a women and I think other women are damn right evil and malicious. If the guy didn't want the baby and the guy doesn't get to see the baby when she did have it because she refuses to let him, it is sickening that the guy now has to pay money to the mother. It is damn right outrageous. Men have the worst rights when it comes to children and all this feminine BS about equality. Feminism is about having more power over men. Not equality. Men need fairer rights when it comes to children and decisions. Women and their false allegations costing men jobs and money to defend themselves in court. I am just appauled by the world we live in. The unfairness and injustice to good people. The justice system is also a shambles.
Tony 09/11/2020 at 10:43 am
My ex has lied by saying my eldest son who is 19 is in further education, I know he’s never been back to school since he left 3 years ago, but when I asked cms too check for me, all they did was to see if she’s still receiving child benefits, which I know that she lied about that too. How can I stop paying for my eldest child.
Star 06/11/2020 at 12:04 pm
My son turns 16 on Monday and he’s CMS has been stopped by his father. My son doesn’t finish school till the summer and then all children have to be in education until they are 18 ! How do I go about continuing to get the CMS ? (We are estranged)
Thanks
Ant 30/10/2020 at 10:51 pm
I have a residence order in place for six years and have not received any maintenance. My daughter is 16 and now looking to live with her mum! Will I have to pay maintenance?
CMS are a JOKE 28/10/2020 at 4:11 pm
Anyone been robbed by the CSA/CMS?
I've had problems with them for the last 20 years, resulting in the following, one court case against the CSA which i won and now for the last 6 years and still on going with my clueless and useless pals at the CMS i am fighting an LSDO(£4000 with fees). With the help of ICE(they have been 1st class) they have admitted maladministration offered me £150 compensation and are now looking at 5 years of payments. will not budge on the LSDO but have discovered i have overpaid by £1250(pending closure/takes 53 weeks/JOKE). now in the process of taking them to court again. All the above stems from me not missing a single payment but going from PAYE to self employed and that confused the hell out of their petty little civil servant brains. DEBBIE SMITH take a bow.
Krypton 27/10/2020 at 12:59 pm
Sorry, obviously that should read : “can’t afford” rather than can
Krypton 27/10/2020 at 12:57 pm
My son has been divorced for 4 years. He has 2 young children. In February 2020, his ex wife made a series of malicious allegations and involved Social Services, Chams, and the Police. He immediately started family court proceedings to regain access. The police dismissed her first allegations. She went back to them with even worse allegations which again have been dismissed by the police. Family court is ongoing however she has now been onto Child Maintenance, and they have doubled his payments to £800.00 even though it is she who is stopping him access to the kids. Is there any appeal process whilst the Family Court proceedings are ongoing. As a family, we can it afford the court fees and the increased Child Support. Any help very much appreciated
Dc 23/10/2020 at 9:27 pm
Hi, I’ve got 2 boys aged 10&12.... I really need to know what can and can’t the mother of my kids claim if I have them 2 nights 3 days every weekend... for example if I give her 220 pm can she still claim child,housing and working taxes ect. Thanks in advance
Mark 19/10/2020 at 9:48 pm
My ex has been on the fiddle my son finished school In 2019 July I was still paying for him hes 19 now , I stopped all payments this March due to Covid but now found out he never went back to school yet the cow still had payments how do I get these payments back ? 8 months over payment
Stig 16/10/2020 at 5:54 pm
My eldest daughter turns 18 soon and for the past year she has been living with her boyfriend and has a part time job with the promise of full time one soon, she was in education and apprenticeship but not now from what I've been informed of, do I need too continue paying ? And if she has been living away from her mum for this year with her boyfriend while working a part time job am I owed anything back.
Garygal 09/10/2020 at 9:58 am
If my exwife gets married again do I still have to pay child maintenance?
Pinks 08/10/2020 at 12:43 pm
I have got two girls with one father and one son with other father . Son father pay child maintenance through the proper channel , girls father just pay directly without any problems . My question is sons father claiming that its not right girls father should pay same way . But I got no problem with girls father we have understanding . I dont want to do that to him girls father never caused problems
Markie 06/10/2020 at 9:24 pm
Can anyone help please? I am paying CMS payments for the last few years but now have some savings from sale of family home. I am looking to buy a house too as soon as possible (currently in rented) but haven’t found the right place yet. Do I have to declare interest on these savings to the CMS? Thanks!
Dev 05/10/2020 at 12:25 pm
My 18 has started and apprenticeship degree. Do I still keep payments up or do they stop now . Which means I can give any monies direct to my 18 yr old not there mother.
John 04/10/2020 at 10:36 am
My son as just turned 18, he hasn't returned to college for his second year but hasn't got a job or an apprenticeship. Do I still have to pay child maintenance for him?
Angry Man 03/10/2020 at 12:16 pm
My wife of 15 years left me for the 4th time (2nd) for someone else we have 2 children. She is claiming universal credits, child benefit, £50 maintenance (not alot I admit) but I am living on pot noodles. I have given her everything supported her threw IVA's. She still comes back for more and more. She lives with parents and claims housing universal credits. She got the new partners income. Why is the law against me, she's committed adultery, something needs to change.
Paddy 30/09/2020 at 8:52 pm
If my son spends his time equally between his mother and myself, should I be paying maintenance? He has mentioned a number of times about living with me. At the moment his mothers niece (25 years old) is living with his mother. I have never missed a payment.
Beas 30/09/2020 at 2:24 pm
Hi, I haven’t seen my son for over 6 years :(. I have always paid maintenance. He is now over 18 and finished 6th form. I believe he is doing an apprenticeship. Do I need to carry on paying maintenance?
Angry Ball 25/09/2020 at 4:49 am
Thanks for the laugh Christopher. I needed that and I wish I'd made the same deal with my drunk of an ex. I now work myself into an early grave so she can get wasted on CMS payments. Child is with me of course
sterlo 22/09/2020 at 10:49 am
Hi, bit of knowledge needed please. My ex has broken our informal agreement and now the cms are involved and it is criminal what they are going to take from me.

My question is my child is at college but does less than 12 hours per week study, I believe this falls below the full time education criteria!

Should this be taken into account and which way should it go, pay more or less?

Before I start poking the bear I thought I'd be sure first.

Cheers
GeraintO 21/09/2020 at 8:13 pm
My ex wife has turned my kids against me and after a year of going to court and costing me thousands she has not stuck to any court order and I can’t afford to take her back to court! And to top it off she is letting them use her surname! What can I do? I’m so stressed
Dave 20/09/2020 at 8:36 am
Can I stop paying as soon as my daughter is 20 even though she will continue in college?
gav-o 19/09/2020 at 3:57 pm
Do I still need to pay child maintenance for my child who is over 18 and will have an apprenticeship but still going to college 1 day a week? As I've read that I have to pay until child maintenance until my child is 20?
Bri 15/09/2020 at 2:30 am
My boyfriend and I both have kids and are a blended family. The amount of child support that is taken from him each week leaves him far less to even support himself. I on the other hand do not collect child support. In the even that we do get married and he adopts my kids, would we be able to request to lower his payments? Are we able to request that now? He is a great father who would love to have them full time and its frustrating to see all his hard working money go so fast.
Valpster 10/09/2020 at 9:09 pm
I am in a relationship and so to is my ex. She has been with her partner for nearly ten years now and they are engaged and have been for 5 years or more. Do l still need to pay maintenance as my household suffers financially while her household benefits from my payments?
Wow3112 09/09/2020 at 11:17 pm
I’m paying for my 2 boys which is more than fine, I have a new partner who has a child who I am also supporting can this effect my payments ?
steve 09/09/2020 at 4:31 pm
Hi
My daughter has just finished school at the age of 16..
She’s wanting to do child care at collage do I have to continue paying child support as she isn’t studying A levels or doing further education ??
MattD 08/09/2020 at 5:51 pm
I'm in a very similar situation as A John who posted his comments on the 2nd of Sept 2020. My daughter turned 18 in January and as far as I know is now no longer in full time education. The CMS won't give me a date as to when I can stop my child support payments as my ex is telling them that my daughter is still studying. The CMS are asking ME to prove that this is not the case. Surely the responsibility of providing proof that my daughter is still in education should belong to my ex?

To make matters worse, my 14 year old son who has been living with me for the past 5 years following a court order that was granted after my ex was proven to be emotionally abusing him, decided to stay with my ex "for a few weeks" without my consent back in April. Since then she has convinced him to stay with her and there seems there can be nothing I can do other than go back to court which I can't afford. To make that process more difficult for me, my ex has also put in a claim for child maintenance for him which it seems the CMS are going to uphold despite there being a court order in place. Surely if there's a court order and a child shouldn't be with that parent, the parent shouldn't be able to claim child maintenance!
Ash 02/09/2020 at 8:03 pm
My daughter is 17, left college and is now working full time. Doing no study at all. do I still have to pay Maintenance for her? Can anyone help me as I cannot find an answer.
A John 02/09/2020 at 10:42 am
My son is now 18 years old. Sadly for the last 9 years his mother has refused me any form of contact and so I am not aware of where he is in his education and whether my child support payments are now to finish.
The only contact on this to try and get some answers is from the child maintenance service and I am never convinced they have as the paying parent my interests at heart.

If I am in doubt as to the fact that he is in full time education and therefore requires me to continue paying child maintenance, am I allowed to request and see evidence of such. Sadly the mother of my son has been known to lie over the years to do with my son and so I know she will try and avoid providing evidence.
cheggs 29/08/2020 at 9:32 pm
hi my daughter is 15 her mum has kicked her out shes now living with my ex mum and dad do i have to still pay my ex wife thanx
Mc 28/08/2020 at 4:39 pm
My daughter is nearly 19. Just finished full time education and about to stop maintenance payments . She is starting university And I Am being told by x that I need to carry on paying maintenance whilst at uni , as student loans grant not enough . Never was I consulted about income for grant to be issued .
Daughter doesn’t talk or see me , whilst willing to make contributions to food / rent etc , am I expected to by law ?
Franklin 27/08/2020 at 7:50 am
I pay child maintenance to my ex. I have since married. Does my new wife's earnings get taken into account when calculating child support payments?
Robo2 23/08/2020 at 2:31 pm
My daughter is 16 she left school in summer to be honest last two years she hardly attended, she has now got into some sort of course with the school or careers office not 100% she has to go into school now and then for meetings and do stuff online at home I personally see this as a cop out on getting a job and bleed me dry , can anyone give me advice if I have to keep paying??
Bob 21/08/2020 at 9:12 pm
Hi, i am paying maintenance for a 18 year old. Her mother has told the CM that i am renting a house out. I am renting a house or at least have a friend living there as more of a favour to them. I receive money which goes to pay mortgage but doesn’t fully cover the full amount.
If i was to sell the house, i only keep it to keep a roof over my friend. If its going to cost me more in payments to my ex, i would rather sell. Would she be entitled to any profit from the sale of the house ?
Ivi 20/08/2020 at 1:06 pm
I get pregnant with my ex-boyfriend we have been together over two years then we break up and as we tried to make work out relationship again I got pregnant. He was clear about that he want me to go abortion and he don't want any kids and he don't want be involved in anything like that. I have decided to keep a baby. Do I have right to claim child support from him, as he is father of the baby?
Platty 19/08/2020 at 1:14 pm
Hi,my son starts an apprenticeship next month so would I be liable to make maintenance payments even though he will be getting paid?,thanks
Joebloggs 16/08/2020 at 11:55 pm
Hi my daughter is 17 been chucked out of her mums and now living with grand parents she is now looking for work and no longer in education what happens now with child maintenance
Bogie 14/08/2020 at 5:58 pm
You have stated that on shared care that ,
If you share care equally, neither of you has to pay maintenance to each other .
Is this fact as i had 50/50 custody and was still paying over £250 per month as they said its up to the case worker and who does the most washing and spends more on activities? Is this correct ?
Smithy 14/08/2020 at 2:02 pm
I was paying Child Mainterance to my ex for our daughter who is nearly 18. She has taken a year out to have a child ( she had a baby girl) now 10mths old, she claims universal credit and is going back into education in September, do I have to start paying child maintenance again from September
Mattc_84 13/08/2020 at 9:57 pm
I have 5 children with my ex partner. Does anyone know if the CSA payments I make to her will get deducted from my gross income when making a tax credit claim with my new partner?

Many thanks in advance
Matt
Tika 12/08/2020 at 9:12 pm
I have 2 children one to a failed relationship and one to a current one but we don’t live together. Confused how child support should be paid. My girlfriend would rather not take maintenance payments from me but if she doesn’t I can’t see how I can officially support both and have some funds left for child number 2
R 11/08/2020 at 11:47 pm
I have a private arrangement with my ex wife regarding child maintenance for my teenage son.
He now lives with a friend, not his mother & doesn’t have to contribute towards living there.
Do I still have to pay my ex wife maintenance even though he doesn’t live with either parent?
At the moment my ex wife is still getting maintenance but my son doesn’t live with her & she isn’t giving his friends parents any money towards keeping him either!
mithrandir 10/08/2020 at 11:05 am
my son is 38 years old, but i am told i nave to pay child maitenance. why is this? dont understand
Ginger 31/07/2020 at 4:59 pm
Hi, i need help, i had a divorce and settled everything with my ex and paid all child maintenance for years, i left the UK for 2 years to travel my ex came after me with court case to put a charge on my property to pay a certain amount, now I am heading back to live in the UK as i can't afford to be abroad or travel anymore. She is suppose to remove the charge/ court order when i am back, I want to ask can she force me to sell my UK apartment? I have a partner and we are both planing to getting a job in the UK, can someone tell me what can she do? She has alot of money and always likes to hire lawyers
James 25/07/2020 at 11:59 pm
Hi! The calculator showed me £280 a month childcare. I’ve got my daughter every fortnight for 2 nights, holidays are shared 50-50. I think £280/month is a bit too much for a 4 years old... I don’t want to fill the ex’s pocket...
d 23/07/2020 at 4:51 pm
do they have to leave you with so mush to live on cos £150 ant going to pay my rent and bills
d 23/07/2020 at 4:47 pm
hi i pay csa to one privet to ther mum that the csa know about and pay the over with the csa this week i have payed the csa to one £100.79 i got payed £264
Martin 17/07/2020 at 12:19 pm
Hi, I have recently split up and agreed to pay £200 per month mutually. However, I am starting full time uni in September at the age of 46. I have read up on the internet that i wont have to pay the maintenance money in full time education. However, i dont want my child to go without, will my ex-partner get this money from tax credits or another way, or will she just have to make do without? I wouldn’t want my child to go without so i would find a way of paying this if i had to, but wouldn’t want to struggle if she was getting it elsewhere?
I hope this makes sense! Please help!
Adam 12/07/2020 at 1:38 pm
I have to pay my ex wife £200 pm under a court agreement, this was due to me signing all the proceeds of our house over to her. We have 5 children and oldest 3 are over 18 and in full time employment, they pay there mum a monthly housekeeping sum, the youngest 2 are 15 and 11, my son who is 15 has now come to live with me full time and I told my ex wife that I was reducing her payment to £100 from £200 as he no longer lives with her, she has replied the sum the court agreed was means tested which it wasn’t, she therefore is demanding I still pay her £150 as it was calculated over 5 kids and therefore should only be reduced by a 5th, can I ask where do I stand in regards to contesting this as I believe reducing the amount is fair because only one child as far as I’m concerned now qualifies for child maintenance. Any advice would be so appreciated. Kind regards Adam
Hughes 04/07/2020 at 5:34 pm
Ok so my ex partner is being a nightmare I literally pay her £280 a month not missed a payment see him every other weekend she threatening me with courts and mediation all of a sudden I have taken on 2 more kids not of my own and supporting them also I don’t mind paying her normal amount as it’s whats Right by my son but if I’m supporting another household would o be paying less as it seems she is just after money and making my life difficult as possibly
C laurie 03/07/2020 at 2:06 am
Sam bring your men to my house so i can (belt him )that’s my last wish .i want to fight before I do die of natural causes I want to break my hands one last time on someone’s head and then I want to kick him in the head and watch the blood splatter over my jeans like I use to do with my best mate all those years ago those where the good days .thats my dying wish to go out fighting to the end .it might sound crazy to most people .but I am the one dying so grant me my wish .
C laurie 03/07/2020 at 1:46 am
One more thing the doctor told me i might get to live to the age of 42 .i have strong body and mind .even with failing heart I could still whoop your men if he’s brave enough to home to my house ?.or what only likes talk it up ??
C laurie 03/07/2020 at 1:16 am
One last thing Sam you won’t get any child support because can’t work because of my heart so even if you apply you get nothing.and Sam you are real gem not letting a dying men not see he’s daughter class act you are .i really hope you belted in very relationship you have and hope your life turns out miserable just like you .you ugly toad .goodbye loser
C laurie 03/07/2020 at 1:01 am
This is for the mother of child I know she reads these posts .this my last post because it’s no good for my heart I have a failing heart and really can’t take much stress because it will kill me .i just want to say you won the war the child is 100 percent yours .now I want set the record straight when I do die her child is not welcome at my funeral and either are you and if you do decide to come you will be bashed bye my brothers on the spot gods truth this is no game. They hate you and everything about you and what you done .so this is just a heads up .
Stu 02/07/2020 at 7:21 pm
My ex wife is taking my children abroad for six weeks. Am I able to pay a reduced CM amount or do I still pay the full amount.
scotty 02/07/2020 at 11:47 am
my ex wife has stopped me seeing my daughter so that I have to pay more maintenance each month. Surely this can not be legal?
Skell78 01/07/2020 at 3:08 pm
Hi my son's dad pays maintenance every month which is just under £30 a month for 2 children which isn't a lot,can he just phone csa up and cancel it
Magpie 27/06/2020 at 2:14 pm
Hi,
My son is expected to complete his A levels in May 2021. He is currently in the process of applying to various Universities. I am aware that I will no longer be required to continue payment to his mother from May/Aug 2021 (he will be 18).
What I would like to know is? How much of my current agreed payment of £500 will be reduced as I also have a daughter aged 12.
I think I read a while ago that the current agreed payment would reduce by 20% is this correct. It would seem unfair that I then have to pay £400 for just the one child following my son attending university.
I would very much appreciate your advice.
Regards.
C laurie 26/06/2020 at 9:40 pm
@sam.if the mother wants to though allegations at me do it (nothing will stick) .the (police even said to me she has a long record off putting men up or orders after he did sum investigation )and said she is a women to be avoided at all costs. I said to them she doesn’t scare me in the slightest I said (her games) only work on fools .then he said forget the (teenager stay in your city )she in hers then there no issues.i said sounds like a plan .she wouldn’t be stupid enough to come to my house for one I live in a house full off men and second I have that many cameras on my house and can watch my house and yard from my phone when away it’s quite amazing .so I know exactly who’s been at my house or staking around and my last line off defence is a psycho Rottweiler x massif with anger issues.so I feel safe.
C laurie 24/06/2020 at 11:01 pm
@sam.if the child’s mother reads this I will never be with (someone like her or ever associate with someone like her I have( no respect )for her and could never look at her and see what I seen as a 20 year old kid) .she really doesn’t won’t to no what I think of her now .i honestly think with everything happening to world it’s best she stay with her mother .my boarder is still closed anyway plus it’s already been a lifetime without contact so who really cares to be honest why would I even bother now it’s beyond a joke .
C laurie 24/06/2020 at 10:15 pm
@sam.i don’t pay child support ,or went to court for visitation the child now is (16 )so it’s up to her if she wants to meet me (bye herself the only way I will have it I won’t budge on that ).(in the mean time I am done).i personally think with everything happening in the world everyone has bigger issues to worry about .and if completely honest I don’t live the lifestyle to have a (16 year old girl in my house) I live with two other men and always have other men and women over on the weekend and I personally think having a (16 year old girl in a environment like that is inappropriate .)but it’s like catch 22 I am not willing to change my lifestyle. So I don’t no it is what is .
Sam 24/06/2020 at 10:44 am
My partner pays for 2 children, one is still in school and the other is working full time but goes into college every few weeks for a week. Does he still need to pay for that child? According to his ex he does. Also during lockdown we will have had his daughter for 3 months but his ex still wants money.
Browny 22/06/2020 at 10:46 pm
My son is 18 in July and finished his A levels in May. He is looking to go start Uni in September and I want to support him as much as possible. When can I stop paying his mother, is it when he reaches 18 in July?
Lee 22/06/2020 at 12:48 pm
My 18yr old daughter (in full time education) has recently moved in full time until further notice. My 15yr son lives with his mum. Am I legally okay to stop child maintenance payments whilst my daughter is living with me? I can't see why I should pay my ex for 2 children whilst 1 of them is living full time with me. Any advice greatly received, TIA, Lee
Sam 20/06/2020 at 4:25 am
The mother should have had the( child to gordon honestly) and if he is the bio father ?.you should let him meet her because he is great father to he’s own girls and to mick’s girls .thats the kind off guy who is great with children a real like wholesome family men .but on a serous note please tell your child not to come near me in the future because in reality if she is a girl with daddy issues You know how theses young ones different breed .It will crush her soul when I reject her and I will .if she does ask questions tell I have passed away and was a no good anyway .i am just not cut out for been parent in fact I couldn’t think off anything worse .
C laurie 19/06/2020 at 10:39 pm
(And if the mother reads this I hope she does fingers crossed) .i just want to say I will never speak to you again( gods truth and don’t appreciate you coming near my house ).we have nothing to discuss.as I said in the previous post I want nothing to do with your child and think it’s best to tell her I (passed away) .(because I don’t want sum random women in the future looking for a daddy do good because that’s not me ).so if she is one who those girls with (daddy issues )it’s best to tell her I past away that way I don’t have to be rude and hurt her feelings .(the plain facts and truth is I am just not cut out for been a parent ) .but I am sorry for contacting the mother 5 years ago I had a (brain fart) that’s all and it all was a (game to me I never had intentions of ever seeing the child) .i realise that was (very childish) of me .
C laurie 19/06/2020 at 10:07 pm
Truth is I don’t pay child support and highly doubt her daughter has my last name .truth is I never wanted kids I was a child myself only 22 when the child was born .i have no interest in going to court for visitation or ever making contact with the child and really don’t care where they move to I have zero interest and think it’s best I sigh parental rights over legally or I hope the mother does because I don’t want to pay for the solicitor.truth is no games I want nothing to do with the child I don’t want to be informed about anything involving the child even (life threatening or death) I don’t want to know .and if her (mother reads this I hope she does please tell her child to never come near me even if she is adult because I don’t want to be rude or hurt the child feelings )I just want to be (left alone )to get on with what’s left of my life .i honestly think the mother should tell the child I (past away) and there is nothing to find because I am gone .And for her to go to her step father if she needs a father figure.
Jem 19/06/2020 at 7:04 pm
My kids have not got my surname and my name not on the birth certificates do I have to pay Csa to my ex wife
Jam 18/06/2020 at 6:49 pm
Hi my partner pays csa for his 2 children who 19...18 September does he still have to pay csa cause they are not in college and do you need to pay if 1 of them are doing appertership.....
Dad 17/06/2020 at 3:14 pm
My Son is 18 and has completed his A levels at College. When should Child Maintenance stop and what benefits can my son access if not working?
IMA 17/06/2020 at 2:55 pm
My son is 16 turning 17 in Nov. He has just finished year 11 and applying for college. Despite covid not allowing schools to be open I have continued my payments. Now that he is not in school and between finding out if he will get a placement can I stop payments until he gets accepted again and then continue them if he does ?
Mike 12/06/2020 at 8:57 pm
My son is now 18 and been studying A levels but since lockdown his A level exams will be assessed. He will attend university in September but currently he is working up to 38 hours a week while his A Level college is closed. Do I still have to pay maintenance while his A level course is technically finished and he is working?
Space 11/06/2020 at 8:19 pm
When Can I stop paying maintenance one daughter 19 and reviving pip and second daughter is turning 18 in August.
Nobby22 10/06/2020 at 5:59 pm
I'm still paying child allowance for my son who finishes his college course in september he is 19 even though he's not going back to college and doing part time work can I stop paying now
Lisamarie33 08/06/2020 at 8:21 pm
If my daughter claims csa for her child will the dad be able too go for supervised access as he as other kids he isn't allowed to see
SERGIO SANTOS 07/06/2020 at 2:32 pm
I have an 8-year-old girl that I pay child maintenance every month by mi self with bank transfers and I take care of my daughter as she stays at my place more than 3 days a week or 3 days. now my ex-partner decided to file for child care support with a government agency because I didn't do something she wanted me to do . in retaliation she did this. I want to know what is my rights and if I can refuse this agency as I can prof that I been making payments every month and taking care of my daughter almost the entire week. what can I do in this situation as I don't want to pay extra fees?
MrsRaw 30/05/2020 at 2:29 am
Bit long winded and I'm sorry about that. My husband has a daughter to another woman. She only came to him when the girl was 2 because she split from her girlfriend and demanded a DNA test and financial support. He complied and she's his. I was pregnant at the time with my first and stayed well out of it. The mother of the girl has since had man after man in the child's life and refuses to let us have contact with the child for months and months at a time - unless she's unhappy and between men and needs a babysitter. She even had the child's last name changed when she got married - but then split up a few months later and lets her call every bloke daddy.
My husband has always paid a reasonable amount, proportionate to our earnings and life situation and the child has never gone without. In fact she goes to dancing for 6 hours a week and the mother insists on it. We buy the child gifts, clothes and take her on good days out when we are allowed to see her and request to see her regularly and often.
So my hubby lost his job in November just after he started the process of a diagnosis of autism, and ended up with a part time job on nights and in a really bad mental situation. Our income dropped, so we told her we couldn't afford to pay for a few months as have 2 of our own kids to support and she was was living with her now ex. And to be clear she's on good money.
Within 2 months she moved out and started seeing someone else, refused to reply to our messages, wouldn't tell us her address, won't let us see the child at all and has applied for CMS, who basically tell us that it doesn't matter that my husband only earns 9k a year and me 7k, doesn't matter that we have almost 25k worth of credit card debt AND a mortgage to pay, that it doesn't matter that we have 2 other children to support, and it doesn't matter that our son is disabled and as a result we need specialist equipment and an expensive diet. It doesn't matter that we have to pick between losing our house and going to a food Bank or begging family to bail us out every month, and we still have to pay over £120 a month.
Yes we got ourselves into this financial situation and we were just staying above water before this all started with her but life happens and both me and my husband are struggling so much with how the system can allow my children and us to suffer so she can have more luxuries in life.
I rang CAB they gave me advice on looking for legal aid but we would still have to pay some because we both work and rang CMS and they said that it doesn't matter, literally those words, it doesn't matter. Because she still needs to be paid for. A child my husband didn't know about, didn't have anything to do with for 2 years and has spent the last 6 years paying thousands of pounds for when he isn't allowed to form a proper relationship with her.
Is there any advice anyone can give? I just feel so helpless and am desperate
Sideb0310 28/05/2020 at 8:54 am
My daughter is 18 and has (albeit early and forced by Covid 19 restrictions) finished her A levels nad has been since lockdown. I have been making payments up until now but her last exam would have been in a few days time.

Can I now stop making maintenance payments to the mother and assist my daughter financially but directly?
Dano 27/05/2020 at 9:50 pm
I have a daughter from my previous relationship she is 17 and working in a hairdressers and attends college one day a week do i still jabe to pay maintenance
Mikemilan 18/05/2020 at 7:22 pm
My daughter who is 18 has been studying a levels at school .when do my maintenance payments stop.as she is going to university
Victor 08/05/2020 at 1:31 am
@SQ.well darling sounds like you need to (find a job) so you can put food on the table for your self and your son .you won’t get much if old daddy is unemployed or marry a rich men to provide for you and your son .maybe lose sum weight buy a nice short dress get your hair done and put yourself out there strut around for sum rich men .good luck sounds like you will need it .have good day .
Susana Oliveira 08/05/2020 at 12:16 am
I have a one year old son, me and the father are not together. the father's name is on the birth certificate but until today he (father) has never given any money to help with what his son needs, he just says he has no job or money what can I do?
Book 01/05/2020 at 7:45 am
Morning all,my question is this I have been paying maintenance for many years for my son who is 20 in early June,I don’t see him but I still pay 476 a month,I don’t know whether he works or is at college ,I would like some advise if any regarding if I should stop paying when he is 20 or how would I know if he is in employment; 476 kills me monthly .
Book 01/05/2020 at 7:37 am
I am interested as I have concerns myself
Chris 30/04/2020 at 9:50 pm
@tom.yeah I love to drink and I am violent and a very angry person it’s not mental health I was (born) this way and I don’t (WANT ANY HELP ).and if child mother come anywhere any me I will( bash her ).(and I don’t want to work )and don’t care what people say it’s( my life )and I bet I still (HAVE MORE MONEY THEN THEM ).if they don’t like my lifestyle who cares .and she can have daughter get step daddy to adopt her so he can pay support ha ha .and I love my share house .
Tom 30/04/2020 at 10:37 am
My wife has drink, anger and violence problems and despite my best efforts to help and support her, she has said she wants a divorce, which will probably be for the best as it will help to protect the children. She wants me to leave our family home and take our children with me. She wants me to have full parental responsibility for our two boys (aged 5 and 7) which, as I said, is probably for the best. She wants me to continue paying the mortgage and bills, and giving money to her every month, until she is able to get a job. She has said that when she is able, she will contribute some money towards the children and will buy me out of my share of the house. Given her track record of losing jobs due to anger issues, I think it is highly unlikely that she will ever be in a position to pay for her own housing or contribute to the upkeep of the children. I am okay with continuing to pay for her to live in our house, but not indefinitely. When she has worked in the past, my wife has always earned more than I have, but given her deteriorating mental state, these past few years, I don't know if she will ever get back to that sort of employment. If it comes to it, will I have to continue paying the mortgage and bills ad infinitum?
Chris 28/04/2020 at 11:55 pm
@firestwve.(in my opinion do not pay )I myself don’t see my daughter been years mate over a decade .if she is staying with her step dad because her mother spit up with her partner .good I don’t care one bit where she stays she 16 .when I was 16 I had my place I didn’t need mummy or daddy I have (ALWAYS) been self efficient .plus there is zero room in my life for a teenager and at that age she older enough to stand on her own two feet if she can’t well she better learn last .because she will get zero help from me I swear on the bible.she can hate on me all she wants if she doesn’t like what I say .
Firestwve 28/04/2020 at 10:12 pm
I've just found out the my biological son isnt actually living with his mum but with his stepdad as they split up. And he's been staying there weekends for years before this. My question is am I supposed to be paying the mother maintenance when the child she has never let me see isn't even living with her.
Jo 26/04/2020 at 2:12 am
I have just lost my job and I’m going self employed. I am continuing to live in a house share. Do I need to declare to my ex how I have the means to pay these bills? I have given CSA evidence of my job loss and my maintenance payments have stopped.
Dad 24/04/2020 at 3:36 pm
My yearly maintenance is calculated every April, I send a copy of my P60 and pension contributions to my ex wife and calculate on the goverment calculator. I send monthly dates to see my children and have requested to have them 52 nights, my ex wife has refused 10 of these visits for various reasons as friends parties, family events which I respected. Now because of the refusal dates she wants a higher figure of maintenance of less than 52 nights. Is this allowed, its very unfair on fafhers. I'm working full time for the NHS, she now has redused children to visit until after the corona virus, so now next year again dates will be below 52 nights again!! Can she dictate this? Surely it is not fair on a good father who wishes to see his children.
Kev 20/04/2020 at 12:51 pm
Hi, my son is 16 and and has a full time job so I stopped paying maintenance for him , however he walked out of his job so do I have to start paying maintenance again or does it stop when they reach 16 and leave school .
Kev 20/04/2020 at 12:49 pm
Hi, my son is 16 and has a full time job so I stopped paying maintenance for him however he walked out of his job so do I need to start paying Maintenance for him again or does maintenance stop once the child leaves school ?
Al 10/04/2020 at 8:11 pm
My daughter turns 20 on 08 May 20, should stop paying CMS now (01 April 20 payment paid) or do I pay May's payment then stop? Many Thanks for any and all guidance.
GJH 09/04/2020 at 8:18 am
Hi. So my son hit the age of 20 in Nov 2019 however I'm still paying for him as he's still doing college, will the csm contact me when to stop paying or do I need to chase them up? I'm paying voluntary to the grandparents as his mother passed away some years ago and I know they're rather kaniving money grabbing people and they won't contact me if this was a case of me to stop paying them etc.. Any advice much appreciated. Thanks.
RB 08/04/2020 at 2:24 pm
Hi, my son moved to France with his mum in 2011. We separated in Dec 2014 and I remained in the UK and she in France with my son. She hasn't let me see him or contact him by any means since 2014. They moved twice in France and she wont tell me where he lives. I have no idea where he is. I've paid voluntary maintenance every month (no CSA or court order) and I think to myself why do I deserve this. She's taken my parental rights away as I don't know anything about his education or life. I recently found out he visited his Grandfather (my father) in the UK about 2 years ago in secret. I wasn't happy about that. I stopped payments a couple of times and she soon came back to me by email. When the payments start again I hear nothing ! Why am I such a sucker ! Help !
wayne 01/04/2020 at 11:47 am
Hi, Due to the corona virus my 16 year old daughter is no longer in full time education. This is for the foreseeable future. Should i now be able to stop payments for her up until the time she restarts school. Any help and advice would be appreciated. I am on hold with the CMS.
Cait96 23/03/2020 at 5:26 pm
My partner of 5 years hasn't seen his child in almost 3 years. His ex won't allow contact and she has blocked him from social media accounts. He has no way of contacting her or knowing how the wane is or even where she lives. Even if she spoke to him he would only get abuse witch would seriously effect his mental health.
He has done nothing wrong and this young girl is just pure evil. He is very down and doesn't want to face the situation at hand as he has had no help from the goverment.
He is forced to pay child Maintenance for a child that is accused by the mother that the child isn't even his through nasty manipulitive messages (the child is his) in my eyes this is a fourm of abuse not only to my partner but to the young child of only 5 years old.
My question is can he stop paying the payment of the maintenance until he actually starts seeing his child. As this is not fair and they're are no real relief for rather nor rights! When the child was very young myself and my partner had equal even days to the child throughout the week.
We are very young ourself I am 23 and I am a care worker I do not belive my partner to be a horrible person I don't understand why this mother is like this. It isn't fair on him. We also can't afford to go through lawyers and don't know what to do moving forward.
Me my partner nor the grandparents / family have seen the child for a couple of years now. What do we do?
Lulu 19/03/2020 at 6:42 pm
Hi, my partner pays £600 month for his daughter to his ex. However it is clear his daughter is living with her grandmother without the ex. Does he still have to pay her full £600 when clearly this isn’t being spent appropriately?
Lauren 18/03/2020 at 3:41 pm
Hi my partner has just got a court order to have his daughter for the time being, but his ex is still recovering child maintenance and he his money he’s pays through csa. How can this be stopped as they are saying they need the ex to confirm it which she won’t.
dad 12/03/2020 at 8:53 pm
Divorced from a very wicked woman ,i have not seen my children for 2 years now and pay a substantial amount for maintenance,i have just found out that she has taken my children to live in France ,without my consent.now i have to go to court to fight for my rights.....Am i within my rights to with hold maintenance?????
Dave 25/02/2020 at 6:21 am
I have 3 children from 2 relationships, (one of which ended recently) the latter has not applied for cms as of yet but the former(of which we had a agreement) is now trying to increase my payments, and I when I am technically a homeless, and trying to get myself sorted with a place so I can have them all overnight again but currently have no furniture (beds, washer, dryer, fridge etc) what are My rights in my current situation, any help much appreciated.
Ali1066 18/02/2020 at 12:59 pm
Hey, my husband has a full residence order over his two children but the mother has refused to return them since may last year, we don’t want to kidnap them and make it a big drama for them as they’ve been through enough as it is, and we can’t afford court it’s just so much. What is are options? Police won’t do nothing as said it’s civil case. Also does he have to pay child maintenance as technically should be living with us?
Rena 18/02/2020 at 12:27 pm
Ive been getting 267 pm for my daughter but now hes had another child they have cut my maintainance to 69 pm..how can this be fair that my child gets 200 less now because of yet another child that hes had elsewhere? Surely the money should be halved? That i can accept..not like but still ?
Wellice 14/02/2020 at 5:10 pm
I am the most happiest woman on earth right now, My fiancee that left me few months ago
Googs 12/02/2020 at 6:43 pm
Hi
I’m just after some advice on my son regards to child maintenance.
He turned 18 on the 20.11.2019
He’s working part-time earning £160 per week plus doing college work 1.5 days per week.
I’ve paid maintenance ever since me & my ex split on 2013 continuous which was never missed
I’m just wondering if I still need to continue paying for him ?

Gareth
Van 09/02/2020 at 2:04 pm
Hi I’m just disputing payments with my ex husband we have 2 children together & his partner has 2 children from a previous marriage. One of them is 18 & still in full time education is this still taken into consideration when working out how much my kids are entitled to
Love 08/02/2020 at 9:38 pm
Please I need your help, my husband doesn't pay my son's school fees anymore. He is married to another woman in UK and I am in Nigeria. How do I go about this because we're not yet divorce in court.
Lou 07/02/2020 at 3:25 pm
My husband pay £300 a month for his son and he’s 16 next month. If his son goes to college and has a part time job would he still have to pay the full amount?
Chris 06/02/2020 at 9:40 pm
@. Disgruntled father.all( I wanted was to meet the child that was all I wanted) .i just don’t understand why her mother wouldn’t let me ?.like it’s been a (decade) why is so hard for (myself and the child )to sit down and have lunch ??.it is because I have (zero interest) in her mother ???.(i am sorry but I would never be with someone like the child mother )why does that even matter ??its about the (child and myself) .if she wants (guy) my uncle would have her so would my step brother .they would jump at the chance so if needs a (fella )I can set her up with one off them or Maybe both.in exchange for myself and the child to have lunch ????.
Disgruntled father 06/02/2020 at 8:37 am
Hi all, my 19year old daughter is at college and in her first two years completed a Level 3 course. Supposedly this is the qualification level CMS stops. CMS was ceased but was appealed by the money grabber mother as my daughter enrolled for another course at the college (another level 3). CMS have now reinstalled CMS and a larger arrears for me.. it's this correct that you can just keep applying for courses after the criteria to stop was meet?

Feed up and off to tribunal now
Chris 31/01/2020 at 2:15 am
@ang.just get a (solicitor )he shouldn’t have to (pay anything) if the child is (deceased) .(sorry for your loss).
Ang 31/01/2020 at 12:30 am
My sons was paying child support via his wages until may of 2018...his daughter was murdered approximately 6 weeks later...now 18 mths later they are pursuing him for arrears..im livid
cazzie 29/01/2020 at 11:24 pm
Should my partner still be paying maintenance to the mother of 19 yr old who is living away at full time university?
Bottom of the chain 25/01/2020 at 12:32 pm
Hi i wonder if someone could advice me on whether my partner should be paying child maintenance still. His daughter is 18 in college. Due to start university in September she also works herself. He is so soft and helps where he can but leaves us flat broke. He pays her car finance, child maintenance, her phone bill and other things. Should he still be paying support even when shes working herself?
SO 22/01/2020 at 11:03 am
My husbands had recently got a new job, his wage has increased there for the payments to his ex has increased for their now 8 year old son. (Through CSA)
My husband is now travelling to work, paying for parking etc. We have a loan we are paying off and other substantial outgoings.
We have paid to go to court twice (as his mother refused to go to mediation) to ensure we have my step son regularly which is fantastic as the bond between my husbands and his son is unbreakable, we legally have him two nights less a month (School term time and joint custody in the holidays) than his mother and them two nights he doesn’t actually spend at his mothers house he’s at his grandads, the reason for this is that she works in the evenings, the reason for her not allowing us to have him 50/50 custody is that my husband works on a Saturday
My husband has to pay over £130 a month for him.
We pay for his clothes/ bed/ toys everything.
We are literally living month to month to get by.
Why do we pay so much in CSA if any when she is reviewing his child allowance too?
It says paying a for child maintenance is for housing/ clothes/ food etc
But we receive no help with this??
Charley 19/01/2020 at 11:30 pm
I share custody with my ex wife and have my kids minimum 3 nights a week and 50% of the school holidays. The courts also issued me a joint residence order. What do I need to pay her each month. She has a great job and the payments I’m making to Her are crippling me. Makes me so sad when she keeps taking them out no expenses spared and I’m left skint unable to do nice things. I also pay for all the clubs and child care and dinners etc etc on my days and uniforms clothes etc

Is this really correct ??
Broke dad 19/01/2020 at 7:07 pm
My son is 18 and works part time taking home about 600 pcm. He is just finishing the a levels and goes on to college in Sept to do a higher education course. Do I still have to pay and if not when do I stop?
Bob 16/01/2020 at 9:31 am
My Son is 16 in March 2020 and will leave school in July 2020. He will be at college 1 day a week and an apprenticeship the remaining 4 days.
I see him every weekend and pay maintenance to his mum monthly.
At what age will my maintenance payments stop?
F_D 14/01/2020 at 9:23 pm
My husband no longer has shared care of his children with his ex ( not his choice), his son no longer wanted to make the long journey's so their mother agreed to not send them over again ( we live 50 miles away), we have 2 children of our own now & no longer wanted to live where we used to live, so we moved.
CSA have got in touch with their mom & said my husband owes £48 a week due to no longer having shared care, is this correct? I have done a calculation on Gov.uk & it says he should only be paying £36 a week (without shared care). I'm currently out of work, so he is the the sole income earner & he is on a low income. Thanks
naloac 14/01/2020 at 3:01 pm
Hi. I have a 6-year-old son from Oxford. His mother, who I was never with got pregnant whilst we were in Australia and I'm Irish. I live in Liverpool now as I had to make a compromise as I don't even want to live in England at all but I want to see my son regularly. I pay a lot of money to see my son every month. Probably more than his mother spends on him. I try to take him home to Ireland as much as possible as this is home for me. I have very little going for me in England.

The problem I have is that paying maintenance (£200) a month is really affecting me financially. As I already pay on average £400-500 per month all in to see my son. This includes flights, trains food and clothing etc when i have him. I have 2 jobs just to get by. I live in a shared house which is not ideal when i bring him to Liverpool. Is there any help i can get? Is there a point where if you can't afford it, you don't pay. I feel like i shouldnt be paying maitenance because i know i already pay lots more than her just to see my son, and i can't go on like this for another 10 years. I'm 31 and i'm really struggling. I don't have time or money for relationships or friends. If i were to go back to Ireland i'd be paying even more on flights to bring him back and fourth. I'm not suicidal by any means but i can see why young men would take their own lives regularly. It feels like we have to suck it up and get on with it no matter the situation we are in. Please somebody recommend something that doesnt involve me moving outside of Liverpool. I think i'll have to move home soon and take the hit of seeing my son less just give him and myself a better chance at succeeding in life.
Was 12/01/2020 at 6:54 pm
My son will be turning 18 soon he is doing an apprenticeship I am single I have a daughter who is 14 will my maintenance stop for my 18 year old ?
Moo 12/01/2020 at 6:49 pm
Hi my child will be turning 18 in may he is doing an apprenticeship . I am single and have another daughter at 14 . Will the maintenance stop fully for my 18 year old .
Peter piper 12/01/2020 at 8:21 am
Good morning, I have a letter from the child maintenance service stating that they will be writing off my arrears permanently. Am i still liable to pay child support meaning will a new case be opened
Gavin 02/01/2020 at 11:47 pm
My son is nearly 3 and I have been trying to get a family agreement with my ex partner but she has repeatedly refused that offer and said if she wanted money from me, she would go through CSA. The reason I want to go down this route was due to me paying a loan back which I took out and transferred the funds it to her account due to moving house. Ever since that happened, I felt like she has been forcing me out of her life which didn't end well and since we split up, she has done nothing but argue with me and making my life worse than when we was together.

Since we split she's lied about cheating on me, constantly having a go and eventually I moved back to where we moved from yet still she is threatening to go through csa and not accepting my offer to pay her small amounts to help her. Can she do this and if so, what would the csa say if I told them that I repeatedly offered to pay her straight from my bank account yet she refused and went through csa anyway? I just feel like she'll go through csa no matter what happens just so she can get the revenge she's always wanted.

Also, would the amount I have to pay back be affected with the fact that I'm paying the loan back?
CH 30/12/2019 at 11:10 pm
Hi. I have two sons (twins) who have just turned 17 at Christmas. I have been paying maintenance since my ex-wife and I separated 10 years ago, by mutual agreement, not through CSA. One son is attending a years college course in life skills 4 days a week, and the other son now has an apprenticeship, attending collage one day a week, working four days full time. I do not necessarily want to stop paying for them but would like to know where I stand legally as far as my payments for each individual child is concerned. Am I still required to pay for both or just the son in 'full time' education? Thanks
Suz 28/12/2019 at 6:42 pm
Hi my daughter is 18 she is in apprenticeship but not full time. She also lives with here boyfriend which is not living with me or her father do we still have to pay csa
Shuma2610 27/12/2019 at 5:09 pm
Hi, I have had custody of my daughter for 4 years, I always paid maintenance before this, every month, at times it went through the CSA, then we came to an agreement that I paid in cash, yes this was naïve on my part. Now, I have never asked my childs mother for a penny, just to help her through college with bus fares etc, but now she is being really awkward and I have told her I will be applying for CM. Since her case has been closed for 4 years can she turn the tables and say I didn't pay even though I did in cash as explained?
Paul Atkinson 21/12/2019 at 11:09 pm
My son has Asperger's syndrome he not in education or work how long do I legally have to pay CSA hes18 also is he entitled to some benefit as his mum won't say if she loses out can he get JSA or anything for his disability plz
DWhiteman89 21/12/2019 at 5:13 pm
I've received a message from the day to day parent saying that my maintenance is better going on my children who live me and doesn't want to it. Does this she has surrendered her maintenance?
Daz 29/11/2019 at 11:34 am
My eldest daughter lives with me permanently but the other 2 with my ex, I have my children every weekend, how should we work out a fair amount and what about times I'm not working?
CSJP 29/11/2019 at 11:15 am
My children were put in my care Aug 2016, I received my first payment in Feb 2018 after making my £20 payment in Sep 2016. The mother then cancelled payments for July and Aug it then went to deduction from earnings which started in Sep 2018, she has been paying through deductions of earning up until Aug 2019 when the CMS changed payments to direct debit and as soon as this was done she cancelled payments. I have been told so many lies and different stories. Now i receive nothing and waiting a call back even though i call weekly! I am owed £4590. I requested a copy of all my com's between myself and the CMS because i was getting sick to death of their bull so i could write to my MP and what do i hear on the CD's they sent me, 2 employee's of the CMS taking the mick out of me and laugh at my expenses! absolute joke, the employees are dishonest and disrespectful. All i got was a closed cased.... Explain that!!
KP 28/11/2019 at 9:37 pm
I’ve got a personal agreement with my child’s mother regarding monthly maintenance payments, No CSA involved.
However she’s recently become awkward with my access
Can I stop giving her money every month and put it to one side until I get access again or would this go against me further down the line if I had to go through courts?
Chris 20/11/2019 at 7:10 pm
@steph.i haven’t seen my daughter sence she was 5 she is 16 now .i have never paid child support and I wouldn’t no if she is doing a apprenticeship or in school .(i hope she is in school or doing a apprenticeship )from the research I have done I am legally required to pay child support but that was up to her mother .i personally think she never went to child support was because she was with my uncle and a roofer the whole entire time she lived in (my house ).i don’t know about everyone else but that’s not how (relationships work) I am so glad I don’t (deal) with this women anymore (gods truth ).and the reason I walked away .
Chris 20/11/2019 at 6:37 pm
@life.i can relate to your story except the (suicide and child support part).i understand the frustration when you want to meet your (own child) but have orders on you And I know first hand how difficult it is to see your child then .i understand for me I had to walk away for my own sanity .because the mother off my child is older and so is the guy is was sleeping with my (own uncle and other family members )he would off been in her ear ha ha .they deserve each other gods truth .for me I will see my daughter again she will realise for herself what her mother is like and understand my decision to walk away .
Steph 20/11/2019 at 6:30 pm
My son is now 16, he is doing an apprenticeship, also retaking English at the college. Should his father still pay maintenance for him?
Thanks
Life 20/11/2019 at 12:34 pm
My husband has been paying for his sons child maintenance since he was 2 years old and that was the last time he has seen him. He’s now 5 years old. My husband was never married to his sons mother but they had broken up but got back together when the child's mother said she’s pregnant with his baby. They both never got on and made my husbands life so bad that he attempted suicide but survived it. He soon moved out and got his own place and was able to see his son but then his ex stopped it all and my husband went through court which went on for years. The ex made up so many accusations about my husband to Court which were all lies but unfortunately my husband did not do the same because he was afraid they both could lose the child and the child could end up in care. All this made my husband so unhappy and he started to suffer from high blood pressure. His ex is older than my husband and has been married before with an older son who also has never seen his father and she claims benefits pretends her son is crazy and has never sent him to school. My husband decided to stop it all and now has not seen his son for 3 years and not allowed to even write or send gifts but by law needs to pay child maintenance for over £400 a month. How is this fair? The justice system in the uk sucks!!
greg 06/11/2019 at 10:14 pm
@wazza.even though the mother off my child and myself don't see eye to eye with a lot off things and it was a[ messy break up to say the lest ].she has never hit for child support and she has single handed raised my daughter without any help from me .i will see my daughter again one day .i am letting her mother and partner raise there children in peace i gave them in enough trouble .
Greg 06/11/2019 at 5:21 pm
@wozza.that sounds like nightmare (16 000 pounds taking out your account)ex wife got your (house) and kids are in there 20 s.(did he get to see the kids after the divorce?).my daughter is 15 i haven’t payed child support that does( scare me how they can take money out your account like that) .but on brighter note for me I don’t have 16 000 in the bank all they get off me 16 dollars ?? and the mother off my child never took my house (I didn’t have one take and still don’t) .i hope she doesn’t want my 16 dollars and my room in my share house that’s just (evil) and on top off that I have been (allowed )to see the child .at least she won’t cripple my business I have cash business (recycling )
Wozza 06/11/2019 at 1:54 pm
I am writing this for my friend who cannot see very well at the moment as he is waiting for a cataracts operation. I hope I have all his details correct.

'I have just had £16,000 taken out of my bank account for my two children who are both over 20 years old. The kids have lived with their mother and grand mother ever since we split up and divorced. My wife gained the family home, that was our agreement.

This will cripple my business and may well make me bankrupt.

My ex wife and I had an agreement when we separated.

Please can somebody tell me if there is a cut off point for claiming maintenance payments?

This payment has come completely out of the blue and my children are over 20 years old, the youngest being 22).

Thank you in advance for any help and/or advice you are able to give.

W Timmins'
Ginger 05/11/2019 at 3:07 pm
Hi my ex whom I have three children with has come to heads with his employers and he will be leaving the business I believe there will be a settlement figure given to him. He has now said he will no longer be paying maintenance as he is classified as unemployed even though he will be receiving a large payoff. I would also of thought he would be paid his three months notice period and holidays due etc.. Are my children therefore not going to be entitled to maintenance from his payments? Thank you in advance
Matt 05/11/2019 at 10:54 am
My son turns 18 in February, but has finished college as he was struggling as is now looking for work. Will I still have to pay maintenance to his mother until he is 20 whether he finds work or not?
C.laurie 23/10/2019 at 12:20 am
@aqua.i have never had a court order to see the child and never will .and if her mother thinks I would go back to her she must have (mental issues) .and if I don’t see my maybe daughter again (oh well) it is want it is .so we have come full circle and everyone has a (sound understanding off the situation).and everyone has found peace and have there own lives to live .no need to bring up the past I am (done) with the past .
Aqua 22/10/2019 at 8:53 pm
If my ex ignores court order and refuse contact do I still have to pay child maintenance?
Smiley 20/10/2019 at 1:23 pm
Should I stop child maintenance to my ex wife (daughter is 13) if I'm no longer having contact? It's been 51 days without my daughter staying here. Up and until then she was here alternate weekends from age 4. The mum moved taking my daughter when 4 and hour away giving me less time. I've been a great dad driving up and down the motorway for sports day, xmas plays etc now the disdain has set in with my daughter too. I'm thinking of just stepping back and getting on with my life. Ex moved to be with her now husband away from me and our family. I'm human with feelings and I feel the pain. Of course daughter is focussed on friend and they live up there. I've always focused on my daughter but since turning 11 3/4 she's treated me with disdain like her mother.
If she realises maintainance is not going into her account I'll respond with contact the CSA or whoever because if I'm not having time with my daughter then you crack on. Any thoughts please?
Shaun 06/10/2019 at 9:25 am
Hi, I got divorced in January in Slovakia as my ex wife is from there and she filed for divorce there. So I had to go to court there. We agreed a sum of €250 for both kids as I have maintenance to pay my other ex for the kids I have. I also said to the judge that I won't contest the divorce cause my ex and I have an agreement where I can stay by hers when I come over etc... As it costs to much money to fly over aswell as stay in a hotel. I also said to the judge that if I have money left over and I can afford it when mirka asks for extra I will try but that is if I have the money to give otherwise no as I also have to live... Well everything was ok for the first couple of months then out of the blue I get told by her I must stay in a hotel etc.. and she knows full well I can't afford to do that... She has threatened me by saying she will take me to court to get more money as that is what I agreed upon, which is not like I said above. She doesn't let kids talk to me she says they don't want to talk to me.... Didn't even get a phone call for my birthday.... I got my divorce papers and all it says is that i must pay her so much a month and that there is no regulations in place for me. Nothing about me have to pay extra money to her when she wants it. After the divorce my ex got a better job where she gets around €150 extra a month.. she chose to do other things for the kids which cost money but expects me to pay for them. I told her she needs to budget just like I do, I even get told that her father is a better father than I am. When ever I do go over I do spend alot of money on the kids, be it clothes, toys etc, I even spent money for groceries.... But I get told I am useless etc... I have always paid her her maintenance 10 days earlier than what the courts have said, but she still wants more. My question is can she now go back to the courts and ask for more money after 10 months when I received my divorce papers saying what I must pay? Or is out of jurisdiction as I live in UK and she lives in Slovakia, I know tricky isn't it. I need help on this as she just wants more and more from me... Please help.... Shaun
Charlie's angels 04/10/2019 at 7:31 pm
Hi have ? Can I as biological father on birth certificate.acces my son's medical records? Ex has recently c stopped access andvholds certificate.
Wat steps do I need to take .
My son has recently been referred to specialist s and she ain't sharing anything ,only with her new bloke.
Plse can anyone help.hes only 3 and if I remain away to long he may forget me.
Many thanks.
Susan 04/10/2019 at 11:38 am
Hello!! I would like to know about that my husband has one son and he is supporting the child support for every week. His ex wife claimed from the Child Maintenance Service ( UK ). So, he needs to pay for his son £ 2960.94 per year and every month for £ 246.74 per month. I already know that kind of support and I agreed to pay £ 250 per month. But my husband paid to him more than £ 250. He paid every week Friday £ 100 to him. Sometimes he paid to him £ 500 and £ 400 per month. I do not have a job in UK and I still depending on my husband totally. He doesn’t have a handsome salary. That’s why we are struggling to 3 necessary things ( I mean foods, clothing and shelter ). We don’t have a house and we rent just one room in Southall. We have to pay £ 550 for a month. My husband needs to support for me entirely but he won’t. So, can I sue my husband for child maintenance extra pay money? Because I am not well for this case because of not enough support money from my husband. Hopefully, I am waiting for your legal advice. Many thanks.
Sat 01/10/2019 at 10:42 am
Hi Guys ,

Me and my wife have agreed child maintanance in consent order .
She is working now and what happens if she decides not to work or lost job ? Will I be in a situation to pay more ?

Please advice
nicky c 28/09/2019 at 8:49 am
hi guys are the child maintenance allowed to leave the payee short every month as they take it out of my wages but im struggling after that
CF 20/09/2019 at 3:08 pm
Hi Guy’s!

It’s a bit long winded so bare with me....

My wife has a son who turns 18 (in June 2020) from a previous relationship who now lives with him (only since this years summer holidays 2019)

I have bought him up since he was 4 years old and now because he is living at the dads house he is expected my wife to pay maintenance! He is deducting maintenance and child benefit from the monthly figure that he pays my wife!

The 17 year old son is at college 3 days at week learning carpentry do we my wife and I have to pay the money?
K 20/09/2019 at 2:17 pm
Hi, I’ve been split from my partner over a year now, it’s getting to the point we can’t talk without having an argument but what I would like to know is, instead of giving my ex partner the child maintenance can I put it in an account for the kids rather than giving it to my ex partner?
Matt 19/09/2019 at 1:36 pm
My son stopped going to school. He also attacked some people and currently has been removed from the mother. I don't want to give money to the mother anymore, for she has 0 expenses for him at the moment and he is now 16 and does not go to full time school. Also, just on a side note, she works in a bank, where I’m a sucker and working for a charity trying to do good in the world, and she makes almost three times what I make, plus has property worth over a million pounds, and a wealthy boyfriend, but Child Maintance don't actually care about context. And so I have to give money straight to her for my son up to the age of 20, as long as he is in full time education.

But now he is not in full-time education and the law states that if a child reaches 16 and no longer in full-time education, then the payments can stop. However, I'm told by Child Maintenance that none of this matters and that because his birthday was a few days after September 1st, which is the date they calculate a child's age, that they still consider him 15 until next September 1st, when he will then be almost 17. How did such a corrupt system get put into place?!

On another side note, which most of society don’t seem to care about: Men are 3 times more likely to commit suicide than women. Men make up the majority of incarcerations. Women are more than a third more likely to go to university. So many men live in insecure housing, while paying a big part of their pay checks to the women and thus can’t afford better accommodation, and the courts so rarely give parental control to men unless men pay a fortune in lawyer fees, and then often still lose. And even though there are all these threats from the government to make sure every week money is given over to the women, there is no help from the government when the women decide not to give access to the man to see their kids. I have a friend that was in such a situation – insecure housing, little money and no access to their child – and so killed himself. I personally have not been able to get the access to my children like I should be able to and now my eldest son is all screwed up because of a lack of a father figure in his life. But other than paying a fortune in lawyer fees, where one lawyer straight up told me it’s not worth it for there is a good chance you will lose, there is nothing else that I can do. What a sick system!
A 18/09/2019 at 7:28 pm
Hi I have been paying maintenance for about 5 years for my 4 son . The two oldest are now over 16 and left school. They are not in further education and not working. Do I still have to pay for them. Thanks
Tony 11/09/2019 at 9:07 pm
Hi everyone,
My son has left school and started a training program and gets paid £25 per week, which will rise to £150 after a month or two. Does anybody know if I still need to pay his mother child maintenance please?
Rob 11/09/2019 at 7:54 pm
Hi . I’ve been paying child maintenance for the last 16 years. I have no contact with the child or child’s mother as we were not together for long . I’ve never missed a payment since she was born. All arrangements are threw csa. I was just wondering at what point I pay child maintenance until. ? Thanks in advance for your time.
Jess 10/09/2019 at 1:14 pm
Hi, I have 2 children and me and their dad have been split for over 3 years. Over the last month he has stopped paying for his kids and has been causing a lot of arguments. Iv had enough now of the constant arguing so decided to see if I would be able to get any help doing it through CSA but not so sure how to go about it. Please get back to me and let me no what the best thing to do is
Kay 07/09/2019 at 10:54 am
Hi.
I have been split from my daughters father for almost 10 years. He has never been able to hold a job down so constantly lets me down with child support.
We have a court order which explains when he can have her, what’s says he must phone her etc.
I am now at the end of my tether. Please advise me what I can do?
Barffy 07/09/2019 at 10:05 am
Hey. I've been paying child support for my son since me and his mum divorced. He is now 18 and still in full time education (sixth form) he has recently got a part time job at the local supermarket and he will be working a minimum of 12 hours per week. Overtime is available as well. Where do I stand on my payments to his mum as she has already told him that when he gets paid he has to contribute to the house, food, Bill's etc.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou.

Steve.
Minnie 03/09/2019 at 11:15 pm
Hi just wondered what age does child maintenance stop as my son is disabled and will be in full time education till he's 24 year old.
Dp 01/09/2019 at 6:58 pm
Do I have to pay child maintenance if my daughter, has an apprenticeship
Nicky 31/08/2019 at 3:13 pm
My ex husband has been receiving maintenance for his daughter from his ex partner. His daughter lives me so he should not have been getting it.
When his ex challenged this they said it goes to whoever gets child benefit. Well I do. They were told he was being paid the maintenance and keeping it instead of passing it on to me and did nothing about it.
D 22/08/2019 at 11:22 pm
My Son lives with me, stays Monday to Thursday night, his mum has him Friday to Sunday night or Monday morning (it rotates weekly) I work part time nights, and take him to school, I buy everything for him seeing as I am the main carerer, yet his mum wants maintenance from me, I believe she's entitled to nothing from me?
WithWith 21/08/2019 at 10:34 am
Hi, I'm divorced with two children, one is at university and one has just turned 16. The one at Uni is out of the maintenance loop, the other will start college for A levels in a few weeks. Both live with me as my ex has decided to desert them. She has given up her job and is selling up to move to Wales to have a small holding and guest house with her new partner. She will have considerable savings from the house sale that will go over and above the purchase of a new property.
The question is with no job I assume I can expect to get zero financial help for child maintenance from her even if I go via the CSA route. Has anyone any experience in this situation?
Mickey 19/08/2019 at 5:44 am
Hello all, I have two sons one at 18 years old who is going to start an apprenticeship, when do I stop paying for him, and a 17 year old son who has just started his basic training in the airforce and has pledged his allegiance to the queen. But he says he doesn’t think the airforce is for him so he is going to give it a couple of months the come out, so as for as I’m aware he has started in a full time job, so if he comes out of the airforce as he is 17 will I still have to pay for him as he as started a job then packed it in ?? And also if they don’t get jobs at what age can I stop paying for them ??
I appreciate any reply’s and explication’s cheer
Ian 18/08/2019 at 8:20 am
Hi, I’m divorced as of June ‘19 and since Feb ‘19 have had my eldest 2 children (15/13) living with me in blocks of 9 nights of every 14 (their decision) and 7 nights through school holidays. My youngest (5yrs) stays with me 5 nights every 14 and 7 through the holidays. As a result I have not been paying OR claiming any child maintenance. My ex-wife has now said that she has had some advice from her legal team at work and that she’s entitled to claim child maintenance. I can’t see how this could be the case but interested to understand if this is true? I effectively cover 55% of the childcare. I have also left child allowance with my ex as I wouldn’t benefit from it.
Thanks in advance.
Dale123 17/08/2019 at 12:25 am
Hi all,
I am just wondering, I have a 9 month old that is due to start part time nursery. Mother currently has full overnight care of the child as she only tends to let me have baby overnight if it suits her, but anyway won’t go into that. When he starts nursery me and my family will be having him from 8am to 8pm one day through the week and I’ll be having him myself 8am-8pm one weekend. If mum refuses to let me have him overnight can I still reduce the maintenance payment on the basis that during those days I am having to pay for his care all day?
I’ve looked for articles but it only classifies it as ‘overnight’
Thanks in advance
confused 16/08/2019 at 2:15 pm
My partner has 2 children from a previous relationship. The boy lives with my partners parents. The girl also spends a lot of time there too maybe sleeps at moms once a week.
The mother of the children on paper is the residential one, but the children don't actually live with her, (only on paper) hope that makes sense. To cut it short she dumps them at my partners parents 99% of the time. We regularly take the children out along with my daughter. Buy what they need and more. Partner and ex have been split since the kids were 2&3. They're now 9&10. The father child relationship is well established and was so before I arrived on the scene (2 years ago)
The mother is now trying to claim csa/cms. We have given her money numerous times for uniforms and other things and she has relatedly. Spent it on nights out or on herself. So we stopped doing this and decided to carry on with what we do, and buy them what they need when they ask or need it. If we had a bigger house we would let them live with us if they wish to, which is something they asked us about.(looking for bigger house)
Several times we have given money for uniforms ect and then had to go out and buy them because she has spent the money. What can we do?
Jani 06/08/2019 at 2:37 pm
Hi I live in Canada with my Canadian partner who has 2 children with his ex they were born in Canada but she took them to Uk when they were 6 pays for the children to fly to Canada twice a year which is very costly he also flies to U.K. To visit the children as well does he still have to pay child support as he could no way afford to pay her and buy them flights to visit him? Please help
frustrated 05/08/2019 at 1:13 pm
my ex and I have two children aged 18 and 15 . he signed a financial agreement to pay £500 per month, this lasted 6 months, then he decided to reduce the payments to £400 per month, then again to £330 , this month he has reduced his payments to £150 that is £180 short, I am not sure how I am going to manage this month... I feel as though he takes no responsibility for the children....takes them out when I struggle to make ends meet. I work 3 jobs to pay for the mortgage and support the children, do I challenge him again or go back to my very costly solicitor ? I have never stopped access as I felt the children were old enough to make there own decision when they see him and where. After all they are not a commodity it took two people to make them.
Chaz 05/08/2019 at 8:56 am
Hi, I have two children, twins now 18. Both have now finished college with one starting an apprenticeship in September and the other going to uni. Can I now stop paying my ex the maintenance?. We had an agreement between us that I have kept to since we sorted it out. Thanks
Tom 02/08/2019 at 10:20 am
I have 3 Daughters, my eldest and I are estranged and she has just turned 18 and starts university in September, when do I stop paying towards her ? I don't mind paying however I don't want to pay when I shouldn't be
Ht124 01/08/2019 at 6:42 pm
Hi can anyone offer advice pls.

I have made my child maintenance payment to my ex today and she has returned the payment. Trying to claim that I have not paid the money.

What is the best action to take next?
Pmcc 01/08/2019 at 1:10 am
Hi I have a 15 year old daughter that lives with her mum, I have always paid towards her up keep plus pocket money on top. I have also bought her clothes and gave extra to daughter when she needed it if I had it. I am due to move in with my girlfriend and have heard my ex can also claim money from girlfriends earnings, is this right
H 31/07/2019 at 9:40 pm
Hi I have a very complex case the mother of my 2 children walked out on them after she made a claim against me but she also made a claim for her niece aswell my son and daughter have lived with me since the case was started 7 months later I am still paying for 2 children one that lives with me and one that is not mine how long is it acceptable for them to take to sort out my case also my niece is having regular contact with her father that she has not seen for years and he has never paid a penny towards her any help or advice would be gratefully received
Cstewart 31/07/2019 at 7:44 pm
Hi, can anyone help me with a query? Do I pay less child maintenance if I have re-married and me and my new wife have had a baby together, and my new wife has 3 children from a previous marriage who I now support.
CMS is broken 30/07/2019 at 12:23 pm
What is so wrong with each parent being solely responsible for the cost of supporting the children when in their care? Two households, two finances. We are in modern times gone are the days when one parent is the provider and the other the child care.Both parents can equally provide and care for the children and this is the position that all divorces and separation should commence from. If you can’t afford to support the children during your time with them then the other parent should get the chance to increase their time with the children. This stops CMS financially rewarding one parent for limiting the others access and help to ensure the best arrangements can be made for the children. It’s also should not be called child maintenance, no one is making sure the children see any of the payments it is ex-spousal/partner maintenance payment. No other aspect of life are you forced to handover your money with no say on how it is spent... at least with tax you get to vote and have some say.
Chris 29/07/2019 at 8:57 pm
Hi All,

Hoping you can advise me.

My son is 16yo just left school and going to college.
I have always paid my money to my ex through our own agreement.

I have now been asked to pay £150 towards his bus pass. I have agreed to increase my payments to incorporate but my ex has rejected it. And said she doesn’t want anymore money !!

Am I being reasonable.

Help please.
Richie 27/07/2019 at 6:30 pm
Hi Robbo,

I saw your post for June and wondered if you;ve had a response to this as my son whom I don't see is also in college and currently 18 an 4 months old. He supposedly is starting another college course in September 2019 but I have no proof of the course or that he would even carry on attending if he did get if he later left.

Does anyone know our rights as dads as I spoke to the CMA about this and legally he is an adult and so covered under GDPR around what we as parents are allowed to know since legally not his guardian anymore, yet financially still responsible because of any college course that is 12hrs or more a week.

I was advised by the CMA that if I was not given proof by him and his mother and the college to some degree I could be better cancelling my maintenance until challenged simply because they could then look into and validate the proof. I pay voluntary and always have and just would like this sorting.

I welcome anyone's thoughts or similar situations currently.

Regards Richie
J C Marshall 26/07/2019 at 4:38 pm
I have one son and my ex has tried to palm off another as mine. He has since been removed from the cms claim.
He and his brother come to my house regularly...can I claim from her?
Jabba1974 26/07/2019 at 12:37 pm
I pay £658 per month child maintenance plus some debt repayments we accrued together. I have no problem with this - my kids so my responsibility.
What bugs me is that I feed my children at least once a week (breakfast, lunch and dinner) when they don't stay with me. My mother feeds them another 2 days a week.
This all seems a little rich to me.
Then she taps me up for school bus fair on top of this.
Marie 19/07/2019 at 10:42 pm
If the father was 15 at time of conception, girlfriend 16 (having supposedly been on the pill) He has had no involvement in the child’s life. Told the ex-girlfriend he categorically would never be involved immediately they discovered she was pregnant (with plenty of time to terminate if that was her choice) Was told by the ex-girlfriend she would never ask for a penny.
Going to university Sept, probably needing to work part time to fund it. Living in halls.
Will he have to pay maintenance and if so full amount?
Thanks
And 19/07/2019 at 4:47 pm
I have a family arrangement with my X to pay child maintenance for my 17 year old who has just completed her A levels. I was told that payment stops when she finishes her exams, which she has just finished. When exactly do I stop paying right now or in September.
And 19/07/2019 at 4:40 pm
My daughter is 17 and has just finished her A level exams. I was told I would be expected to pay CM till she finish A level. We have a family arrangement where I pay her every month. My daughter is planning to go Uni. There are conflicting statements as to when to stop paying some say as soon as they finish A level others say September,when exactly do I stop paying?
Sam 19/07/2019 at 12:57 pm
I always had a fair family arrangement worked out with my ex for payments. But as soon as I met somebody and moved in with her, my ex took revenge and got CMS on me. They take a ridiculously unfair amount now based on my wage. My ex, who's 12 years older than me and got herself pregnant when I was only 20 years old by going off the pill and not telling me, works in a bank and makes three times as much as me, has her own property worth over £1,000,000,000, and wealthy parents to back her up, and a new partner who makes a lot in a finanace job. I work for a charity, no property and no parents to back me up and live in London, where for my generation, my rent alone is three times what my ex pays for her whole morgage. The CMS don't take context into account which is just ridiculous.

I've also always had to fight to see my son, getting threats of police being called or being taken to court by my ex. Even though CMS are quick to take my money, they don't care if I don't get access to seeing my son. And getting hit with child maintance has kept me away more than usual the last few years. My son is now all screwed up, got sectioned for a few months and has now dropped out of school at age 15. He seems to love being a NEET (not in emplolyment, entertainment or training) and we have not been able to convince him otherwise. I called CMS to see what happens when he hits 16 in this circumstance. I'm told that I'll have to still pay his mother till he is 20 years old! That's just so unfair and insane. At 18 I moved across the world and lived on my own. My current partner has a brother which did the same at 16 years old and was in full time work.

This system is so curropt. The number one reason for death for men in this country is suicide and I've had a friend kill himself because he had no money because of CMS, insecure housing and not being able to get access to his daughter. But nobody seems to care.
TL 15/07/2019 at 5:03 pm
I split from my ex wife several years ago and have two boys. To start with I was having them on average 1-2 days a week. Since December 2017 I have been having them on average 2-3 days a week to help my ex out with her job but she hasn’t declared this to CMS. I have contacted them but they stay they won’t change it unless she agrees that the change has happened. She just tells them it’s still being discussed. Where do I stand?
Wils 14/07/2019 at 6:51 pm
Hi,
I have a mortgage with my ex that I pay with alongside child maintenance which includes finance agreements etc that were made during relationship, I’ve paid this for three years since I moved back to my parents. I now have another child and cannot continue to live in one bedroom, now that I’m moving out I cannot afford either the mortgage or maintenance due to renting and supporting my other half and child or my son that I have every weekend. My ex doesn’t pay or provide the things my son needs such a sufficient clothes whilst he’s with me, nappies that are needed, doesn’t cut his hair or even some of the more basic things such as cutting his nails. What is classed as shared care? How much maintenance should I pay for? I’ve been told by csm that the only thing that comes above child maintenance is council tax (typical government) but paying the maintenance that’s been asked would mean I couldn’t afford my rent and so make my other child homeless.. where do I stand?
Skud 14/07/2019 at 2:08 pm
Hi will I pay less now my son has left school and started college he also has a part time job or will it remain the same as I've been paying whilst he was at school
Parkin 13/07/2019 at 3:03 pm
I’ve had full custody of two children with no child support from ex partner for ten yrs one child has gone to live with the ex now he wants support off me after I paid 100% for both all along I have one of his daughters still lol at home he has one what’s the protocol? Do I pay and claim for other child back?
Eddie 05/07/2019 at 2:24 am
My ex is now claiming for child maintenance after my child went to live with him. One child was with myself and the other with my ex. They both live with him now. He lies about his income and earns far more than myself. I can barely survive on what I earn so can't afford the 160 pounds a month I've calculated I'll have to pay. Is your house hold bills ,mortgage ect not taken into account? .please help
pwoodward 04/07/2019 at 1:01 pm
I pay money into my sons bank every friday, a agreement between us both, but if my son has now gone away with my perants for 4 week do I still have to pay his mother or can I stop payments for 4 weeks and give them to my perants as there looking after him for 4 weeks
Daveyc 04/07/2019 at 12:07 am
I dont see why daughter but still pay csa and have for the past 12 years until now.
Strangely for the last 3 months no money has been taken for this out of my bank which has never happened before. Does anyone know of any reasons why this might be.? I also dont have contact with the mum so I dont know anything. Thanks
CSB 02/07/2019 at 2:40 pm
I moved out of the family home In November, and yet still pay bills on my old home, which my ex (at the time) confirmed she was happy to accept in lieu of maintenance.

Does this have any legal basis?

I pay the Sky and Home phone and Broadband bills, in addition to a mobile phone she asked me to get for her as she couldn't get credit, whilst we were still married. There is also a cooker In the house I pay for, along with credit cards that were racked up by both of us through monthly essentials such as shopping.

As long as the value of the total payments is either equal to, or exceeding what CSA/Child maintenance options would ask of me if she went down that route, does she have any legal recourse?
Smith 02/07/2019 at 1:29 am
I have 4 children and receive the same amount of cm if I were to only have 3 children, can I dispute this?
SD 27/06/2019 at 7:30 am
Myself & my daughters Mom split when my daughter was 1, she’s now 12. I’ve paid maintenance since day 1 which I’ve not got a problem with. My issue however is the fact that not a penny gets spent on my daughter. She comes to us in clothes that are too small, dirty etc. I know it’s for her upkeep as well but why should I be having to buy her clothes as well as paying maintenance, buying sanitary products etc when surely that is the whole point of maintenance? Is there anything I can do about this? Can I legally change the amount to account for the extra I pay for? Also her Mom refuses to ever drive to drop her off or pick her up and it’s a 72mile round trip!! Thanks for your help.
Mr M 24/06/2019 at 7:51 pm
Hello all. I’m looking for advice on the following:

I split from my ex a long time ago and since met my new partner. My new partner and I now how 2 young children aged 8 and 4. The child between the Ex and I is almost 19 now. I’ve always paid the same amount of maintenance for my 19 year old(still at college) in a private agreement with his mum.

Things are tighter financially these days and I’d like to reduce the amount I pay now and I’m not sure where I stand with this. I received threats from the Ex when I stated my intent. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
robbo 23/06/2019 at 2:48 pm
My child is now 18 ex wife says he is still in education but I have no proof of this what are my rights in regard to payments
Confused 22/06/2019 at 10:40 am
Will the CMS inform my ex when my new baby is born? We've made the decision not to tell her due to her being high conflict and assaulting my fiancée in the past. My fiancee has anxiety around her knowing and reasonably doesn't want my ex to know or have anything to do with the new baby
Aeremane 21/06/2019 at 8:01 pm
This goes to MD post ,if your daughter is not in education then you dont pay a penny ,as she is working ,even if you have shared parenting then you still dont have to pay a penny as when she comes to you your paying for things when she stays over like food days out etc.
Tony 19/06/2019 at 10:14 am
I am in the same situation as Bri below. My previous marriage was physically abusive and dangerous, and as a result I have had to remove myself from contact with my daughter. She is 17 now, and I am told she is in college, but have no way of verifying. My ex wife has committed fraud previously, so her word cannot be trusted. CSA say they will perform checks however I think all they do is write to my ex wife and ask her.
How do I ensure that I am not paying when I shouldn't be?
md 19/06/2019 at 9:15 am
i pay my daughters mum money every month , we used to use CSA but now an agreement by us both , just the same amount i payed through CSA, My Daughter is 17 and decided to not go to further education, She now has a full time Job, when do i stop paying the suppoer ?
Angel 16/06/2019 at 6:41 pm
Hi we need some help. My partner pays child maintenance for his son who turns 18 tomorrow and currently isn't in education. He got kicked off the course back in November due to never turning up but says he plans on going back in September it's not a level or nvq. His sons mother is insisting that because he plans to go back to school he still has to pay. Can anyone help please
Cappy 11/06/2019 at 12:37 pm
I'm having a dilemma, my ex wife is moving out of our old property and into her boyfriend's house. My daughter of 16 is staying at the property with her brother and older sister. I've being paying for my youngest daughter now for almost 4 years which i have no problem with and never have. My question! Is my wife still entitled to the monthly payment because in theory she is not caring for her but my eldest son and daughter will be. Is one of my two siblings now entitled to the payment until she finishes her education. Any advice appreciated. Thank you.
PEE 09/06/2019 at 2:33 am
My ex will only allow me to spend 5 hours a week with my 2 children so I have to pay over 300 a month in child maintenance which I don't mind cause they are my children but when they are admitted into hospital I stay with them and don't get paid for the days I am not in work. Could this affect my payments
dead already 07/06/2019 at 2:15 am
i will be committing suicide very soon! i cant cope with the amount of csa that is taken from me! it was around £400 a month, that i could just afford, but has risen each month quickly to £837 per month?? the csa wont tell me why and they don't care at all!... this is killing me financially in every way possible! i just want to die now ive had enough!!!!
Dave 05/06/2019 at 7:08 pm
If i have my daughter for more than 7 days do i have to pay child support to my ex
Dave 03/06/2019 at 11:06 pm
Hi .. my 16 year old is having a baby .. where do I stand on this
Bobdobalina 02/06/2019 at 4:17 am
Am I correct that if they leave education at 16 you can stop payments, but realistically when they go to uni at 18 definitely you can stop?
Bobdobalina 02/06/2019 at 4:15 am
Am I correct that once the child goes to university you no longer have to make formal maintenance payments? I understand if they leave education at 16 also.. but if University at 18 then definitely? Thank you
Bri 30/05/2019 at 6:18 pm
Can you help my son turns 18 on the 7 June 2019 I have no contact with him or the mother I’m not sure if he is still in education so how do I know legally when my payments will stop.
Princekj75 30/05/2019 at 4:27 pm
I wonder if someone can help.
My son who is 17 left college nov 18 and isn’t working isn’t in education anymore but the mom still continues to to claim child benefits and I’m still made to pay maintenance for the last 7 months I have argued etc with cms but they won’t listen I can’t get any information from the college due to data protection and I’m not a named parent so won’t disclose anything, why should I be made to pay and the mom continues to receive it, she also tells them he’s still in education and as she’s receiving child benefit cms think he is in education when he isn’t , she’s defrauding the government and cms , what else can I do as clearly this is wrong and illegal
Jbm 29/05/2019 at 7:58 pm
I have not had contact with my child or the pwc for 2 years - childs choice apparently, although i beg to differ!. I know my child has left school this year but I have a private arrangement with the pwc based on calculations from cms. Therfore; how do i find out if my son has remained in education? Do i just contact cms even though i dont pay through them??
mato 29/05/2019 at 5:11 am
Kids were better off down the coal mine .they are abused by there mothers now purely for money
mato 29/05/2019 at 5:05 am
They have ruined more family's than the german death camps
mato 29/05/2019 at 5:03 am
They have ruined more family's than the german death camps.
Lebs1706 27/05/2019 at 1:22 pm
My son was with me 50 percent of the time. He’s 14 and has decided he doesn’t want to come and see me anymore. This is his mums doing, the CMS are expecting me to pay 370 a month, I can’t afford this. I am stuck paying for my sons horses as his mum won’t contribute toward them. I have no problem paying for my son at all. But financially I won’t be able to live.
Borobob 19/05/2019 at 7:31 am
Hi
I have two children which I have access to via a court order as I was prevented from seeing them.
They are meant to stay 2/3 nights a week.
My older son has stopped staying , I don't know why as he has stopped talking to me.I ,like many people, believe my ex partner has pressurised him.
However I am now told by the CMS that I have to pay more child support to my ex partner as he does not stay.
I don't understand why someone can break a court order ( by the way she has never stuck to the court order for 6 years ) and be financially rewarded for this.
My question therefore is does the CMS have to take into account a court contact order when assessing payments?
Thanks
CB Fraud by PWC 19/05/2019 at 12:56 am
@stepmum75 OMG its obviously a scam that the PWC do!! I am in the same.
I will refuse to pay now, I have open a small claims court for the money she owes me,
whether it will do any good, but yes same lies and suffering the same, we will be taking this
to tribunal :( how the F can they get away with it.
CB Fraud by PWC 19/05/2019 at 12:50 am
@joe No you should not, my daughter is 18, left college and working 36 hours as carer and cms are
still wanting money from me! Its a disgrace
CB Fraud by PWC 19/05/2019 at 12:47 am
I have been told by my daughter that she left college in september 2018. The pwc has not
and will not tell the cms!! I have told them that my daughter has left and they are
continually ignoring me. The evidence they use is the PWC word and the fact shes getting child benefit,
which is wrong because its not about child benefit, the PWC is actually
frauding the government claiming child benefit and they will not check the college as
this is data protection. I will be taking her to small claims for the money I over paid and with this I will
be able to take witnesses in to prove that my daughter told them also that she has left college.
Any extra help would be great as the cms are now asking for collect and pay.
TIA
Venteke 18/05/2019 at 9:30 pm
I have a son 18 years of age living with his mum. I am still paying child support - under the "family-based" arrangement. I have been living in the family home however for the last 2 years- but as a legal renter- NOT in a relationship with his mum. it was supposed to be a temporary arrangement when I moved out of my own flat back in 2017. However due to my mother's health issues, I had to travel back and forward to my country of origin (Belgium) a lot where my mum lives- to help her out, and this is the reason I kept on postponing to move back on my own. My son is in college but next year he is taking a gap year. I want to move out of the house for good at the end of June. Do i have to keep paying child support to help sponsor his gap year?
RossG 12/05/2019 at 6:11 pm
Since December 2017 I have had 50% shared care with my ex of our daughter. During 2017/2018 we got back together several times but it never worked. My ex also has 2 other daughters with another man. Over the last few years my ex has had turbulent often chaotic relationships often ending in financial issues and since 2017 has been living with her parents with the children due to these issues. In January 2019 I decided that I had to stop this relationship with my ex as it was toxic and no good for anyone. My ex reverted back to one of her ex partners and spent time with him with the 3 daughters and left them in his care whilst she went to work. When the girls came home the 2 older girls complained to their dad that their mom had left them all day and the guy had taken them to the pub all day and bar staff had looked after the 3 girls. There had been previous domestic violence and substance misuse issues with them so I contacted the other dad and together we decided to inform social services. My ex partner then made allegations to the police that I had been harassing and stalking her and I was interviewed under caution. The investigation is ongoing but since then she has reported to the CMS that me and the other dad only have our children 2 nights per week. The CMS has told us both that because she states that we are lying and we dont have court orders to prove it we have to pay this maintenance. Where is this fair towards fathers why do the CMS only believe the mothers? I am the one being harassed as my ex has told me that she wont stop until I have nothing left???? I really dont know where to turn or what to do next????
fighting dad 09/05/2019 at 10:19 pm
Hi All,

I was hoping some one can help me out with one of many issues I am currently contesting with these brainless and incompetent people from CMS.

Basically I have two employments one is full time and the other is two days a week. (second job)

CMS contacted HMRC for my annual Gross figures, and calculated my payments on the figures combined and not individually, which I am arguing its unfair because my second job weekly gross is under £200 (not to mention deducting pension etc.) so that's would subsequently reduced my weekly gross before tax and would have an affect on what maintenance rate they would use.

also does anyone know if a Give as you earn payment to a registered charity would be considered a deductible amount as I currently have this in place which is tax free etc..

from my dealings with them they don't know what they are talking about unless you challenge them and put in complaints they will scree you over.I am not trying to get out of paying for my child but I want it done fairly and logically
D2C 07/05/2019 at 10:12 am
Hi, I am a single dad of 3 young children (4,6&7 years old). I work full time and have a good paying job luckily. My children have not seen their mom for a year, and I have been main carer for 2.5 years following divorce due to unreasonable behavior on my ex wifes part.
I am not entitled to any financial support for my kids due to my earnings, it would be financially more sensible to quit my job. I dont get child benefit as my salary if just over £60k. My frustration is if 2 working parents equally shared an income of £99.9K then they would gte this benefit...!!!
My question is, my ex wife is no where to be seen and to my knowledge does not work, am I entitled to any CSA?
Thank you
Lovemykid 06/05/2019 at 1:59 am
Lost job at the moment dont have one. I just missed a payment and my ex she wants the money. I want pay but at the moment i cant until i found the money to pay and start new job. She refuse me to be with my child, while we have a court order. Can you help please to understand how works?
Cait2000 06/05/2019 at 1:13 am
Hi, I receive cms payments from my dad because I’m in full time education. But I’m now pregnant, does this change anything? Does he have to keep paying until I’m out of education? Does being pregnant effect this?
Cait 06/05/2019 at 1:11 am
Hi, I’m 19 in full time education and I’m receiving cms payments from my dad, I’m however pregnant. I know he has to pay while I’m in education but does this change if I’m pregnant?
Helpless 29/04/2019 at 9:34 am
Really need some advice. I will also seek legal but it’s good to know people experiences with these things. Sometimes the law doesn’t really help so any information here is much appreciated. My friend is trapped with an ex wife paying ridiculous maintenance he is struggling to pay and has nothing left for himself.

It’s been about 9years now since the divorce, my friend never actually got a lawyer and his ex wife hired some top notch man hating one and he just agreed to the terms. Never showed up to court. His wife got the house, full custody and £15k a month plus additional extras school fees etc... basically he is just paying.

He now has some health issues and have tried to reason why ex but the problem is the kids are leverage and she won’t budge on maintenance. i know there is a lot of hurt between the two but for anyone to move forward with this is there any advice you can give me? I plan to go to a lawyer but need people to provide experiences how they dealt with this. I told my friend suggest she should downsize the big house and live within her means but he says she won’t and it will kill the kids.

It’s such a horrible situation to be in even after divorced you are still Payj g the price. He loves his children and will provide of course no question ask but it’s the ex’s high lifestyle she wants to keep which is the problem. The thing is he is not well and wants to focus on his health and without stress of paying ridiculous amount. The other part of this story she hasn’t worked for 16 years so I know the law protects women like that. But There is a lot of working mums out there. Surely she can try to get some sort of job.

Is there a law out there to protect guys like him? He never got a chance to start fresh after the divorced.

Any help here much appreciated. Even a good lawyer recommendation in LOndon will be much appreciated.
Joe 28/04/2019 at 2:23 pm
Hi do I still have to pay csa when son is 18 and in full time work.
RossG 27/04/2019 at 10:07 pm
I have my daughter 50% of the time and have since December 2017 and the relationship with her mother and me has now broken down and she has made a claim against me for maintenance and has blatantly lied to the CMS stating that I have my daughter only 2 nights per week. I have a child separation order from 2015 but this was for only 128 nights per year but due to my ex's chaotic lifestyle we agreed in 2017 to increase the contact to 50/50 I have evidence from my parents, her school, neighbors but the CMS will not listen to any of it and will only take a court order. I have sent a solicitors letter to my ex asking her to change the child separation order to reflect the 50/50 contact but she will not what should I do now as I am refusing to pay any monies to her as I have my daughter equal 50/50 she is paid all the benefits and this is being done out of spite to me please help em someone?????
Sam 26/04/2019 at 8:27 pm
My husband pays cms payments direct to previous partner. He has and always will contribute, no question about that, however he feels he can never progress as soon as he gets a new job or promotion ex is on to cms for more money. (Currently pay £500 a month). He recently started a job that pays him direct from uae and he has to submit tax returns at the end of the year. Can the cms enforce payments from overseas earnings? Ideally we would like to make an agreed amount without cms but know this will only happen if it can’t be done through cms as ex will always want as much as possible. Or as they say what they are entitled to.
Step 26/04/2019 at 2:26 pm
Hi, I’m currently paying child maintenance for three children. My question revolves around the huge disparity between my ex’s salary and my own. I earn approximately £20,000 pa whilst my ex wife earns £75,000 pa. Is the resident parent’s salary taken into consideration when calculating payments or is it always ignored? I do not mind paying but I question the amount I have to pay when my ex earns almost 4 times more than me. Thanks
David 23/04/2019 at 1:27 am
Hi I have been paying child support for my daughter but she is now 25 and has a son of her own who is 6yrs old I'm still paying child support weekly out of my benefits but I don't know why I'm still paying so I've been paying it for 7yrs longer than I should have been but who is receiving the payment still as I know my daughter isn't
Can I get the money I've paid extra back
Anyjo 19/04/2019 at 8:20 am
Hi, my partner is paying cms every month. We have now little one together. The payments is effecting our life big time. I am with my baby at home on no benefits. He has to work every single day apart from like maybe 2 days in the month to so we can pay bills. We are constantly living on bread line because of these payments. There is some excess amount that he owed to this women from before when she didn’t tell him she had a child. We are paying almost 400£ every month. Is that normal? How much percent should it be from his weekly wages? Can the fact that he is looking after me and my daughter change the amount of the payments? Also if we had another child can change it? And if yes how much? How is it possible that the the system lets a family suffer for sake of one child with some greedy woman...
Andy 16/04/2019 at 12:59 pm
Hi.i an recentley divorced with an 11 year olddaughter who lives with her mum.my ex had 70% of the house which i agree to.the csa are charging me £105 a week plus 20% on top for them to deal with it all (which my ex wont agree to a direct debit)they based this amount on the fact in 2017 i used to earn £44000 a year then i was made redundant and i now earn £31500 a year.the csa say it falls into the same bracket as earning 44k ? Yet their website only says 12% of my earnings which is correct and would i be better off taking a lesser paid job ?
Stepmum75 12/04/2019 at 1:51 pm
My stepson has recently left college (back in December) The CMS are claiming that the evidence they use is when the mother stops receiving child benefit for that child and the date they will use is when this stopped. She has obviously been illegally claiming the child benefit as we even provided the CMS with a letter from his college stating the date he withdrew, which is 3 months before child benefit stopped!
N 12/04/2019 at 9:38 am
Hello. My daughter went away with just her grandparents on holiday for a week. Does my ex still need to pay me maintenance? Thanks in advance.
chris 09/04/2019 at 11:27 pm
i am[ slow country boy] with no education and [no job ]and share house at 38 .i had child to a women back in 2004 last time i seen her 2008 .i no its was my responabilty .to go to court for visitation[ i wasn't smart enough ]at the time and was in a lot off trouble with the police for bothering the mother when she wanted to break up with me .i bothered her again years later and got in trouble again [slow ].she never wanted child support i am [sorry for the messages i sent her ].now if my daughter ever wants to see its up to[ her now ].because i don't want any more trouble in my life .and i guess i was raised [old school] where its the mothers job to raise the child .i guess i am like timmy .
Vicky 09/04/2019 at 6:47 pm
Hi. I am going to give birth in June. The father doesn't want any responsibilities for the child. We never been maried. I want him to pay child maintenance, my question is if i need to register him in a birth certificate as a father or is not mandatory. Thank you
Silver Fox 09/04/2019 at 5:41 pm
My daughter is 18 and still at High School. I make weekly maintenance payments to her mother. She turns 19 in September, by which time see intends on going to University.

Do I have to continue making maintenance payments to her mother?
Mark 08/04/2019 at 2:29 pm
My stepdaughter and her mum have recently fell out and stepdaughter has decided to go and live with her dad for a short while whilst things calm down. My question is, Does the dad still have to pay child maintenance whilst she is there? Also, an agreement has been in place, amicable arrangement pre agreeing verbally what he is to pay. However, we know that this is way below what would have to be paid based on his gross income. Can this be backdated if we can prove what he has paid versus what he should have been paying? This was all a verbal agreement, nothing in writing. Please help?
Thanks
Jazz35 04/04/2019 at 10:01 pm
Hi just looking for advice. My ex is trying to take me to court for unpaid child maintenance. We had a family based arrangement and I stopped paying this when my daughter was 8 as her mum and I couldn’t find common grounds and I eventually cut contact. I know I probably should have continued paying her but I just didn’t see why I should as I wasn’t seeing my daughter. So my daughter is now and adult and I still do not have contact but her mum has decided that she wants to take me to court for the unpaid maintenance for all of them years I never paid. I am worried as I am well paid but I have a heavty mortgage and 2 other kids with my ex wife (who also is claiming money from me through cms)
Can she take me to court and do you think she will be successful?
Thanks in advance for any advice
JJ
David 04/04/2019 at 7:16 am
Hi. I have been paying maintenance for 17 years. I used to see my daughter but for the last year for some reason she chose to break contact. I now do not know if she's in education and if she is what she is doing. The last I knew she was at college. She turns 18 in July.
I pay direct to her mother so want to stop paying her as soon as I can and put into a saving account for my daughter for the day I get to see her again.
How do I find out if I can stop paying and move the money into savings if no one from that side will talk to me? Thank you.
Bashbro75 30/03/2019 at 2:01 pm
Hi I am going to be having my daughter stay for a week off the Easter holidays do I still need to pay my ex partner child maintenance for that week. Thanks in advance
Chris 30/03/2019 at 12:56 am
@sam.if I was in a better( financial situation) I would go to (court) my life is not going so well I am (unemployed) and share house and have (no money) .if I was in better position I would go to court .
Chris 29/03/2019 at 11:38 pm
@sam.i am not like Timmy truth is I am just (broke jobless )that’s why( I didnt go to court) for (visitation)and the (messages where (spam ).and the mother off my child is not the women for me .
Chris 29/03/2019 at 10:35 pm
@sam.i can’t make ends meat( atm )so I am glad I don’t pay child support that’s why I haven’t been to (court for visitation can’t afford it ).so I will wait to she is (16 )the (legal age requirement for me to approach her ).hopefully I will have my own place bye then and maybe in a better financial position
Chris 29/03/2019 at 9:12 pm
In (reality )I don’t want to be with the( mother off my child) I Sent a lot off (spam messages )Silly ).when i was with her she( repeatedly cheated )and I said nothing for me doing that I think it gave me (depression )later in life I felt sad angry and how my life isn’t going so well( atm) .and my choice to not go legal for( visitation) to my (daughter) really affected me later in life .
Sam 29/03/2019 at 5:35 pm
Please someone help, I have my son every weekend and a week in summer week at Easter and 3 nights at Christmas, I pay £100 to her a month but she wants more I have another child with my new partner and only been on £1,200 a month I can’t afford to pay more, As he lives 35 mins away from me it costs a lot in fule and I drive him there and back every week, she wants another £40 and I really can’t make ends meet now, she said she take me to get more but told me they add 20% on top of that if she dose do that but just need to know what I can do I never missed a payment but she been difficult now as I told her I really can’t afford it HELP PLEASE
Lunar 28/03/2019 at 9:51 am
Question, my daughter has turned 16 in February and the mother of my child gets around £480 a month for her, she has repeatedly told me none of the money goes towards her for food in school, clothes, school material etc, am I aloud to put the £480 into my daughters bank knowing she’ll be able to get the materials she needs instead of giving it to her mother?
Dellboy 27/03/2019 at 9:45 pm
Hi I am paying a amount to my wife for a out of court maintence I also pay for haircuts ,shoes and some clothes but after a argument with all her family she now wants to go to CSA which I would struggle to pay for my rent food etc can she still do this
Alec 25/03/2019 at 7:17 pm
I have shared care of my children, 6 nights a fortnight and half of all school holidays.

I currently pay approximately £200 per month CMS, however it is evident this does not get spent on the children as maintenance.

I have offered a family based arrangement which far out ways the child maintenance I currently pay, but it means I know the money which is meant for the children is spent on them. This however has been refused, have I got rights when it is obvious that the recieving parent is using the child maintenance for their own life style?
Notsolucky 20/03/2019 at 9:52 pm
Evening
My special needs daughter turned 17 at Christmas and will continue going to her special needs school until May June 2020 as she does not turn 18 until December this year.
When can I legally stop paying child support for her?
This may seem contradictory but I have no wish to stop supporting her, I am just looking to understand where I legally stand. I have 3 kids and currently pay £825 per month in maintenance, I have them every second weekend (Friday & Sat night) as this is the only access I can get.

Some advice on this would be much appreciated.
Confused 20/03/2019 at 3:25 pm
If your husband has been paying over the odds since divorce and then the CSA get involved - why are those payments not taken into account??
Rosie 20/03/2019 at 11:02 am
Hi guys, just wondering if child maintenance payments are affected by hour many hours per week the children are in the care of someone else?
My partners ex is trying to rinse as much money as possible, however the children go to his grandparents every day after school and on weekends. Would this mean she isn't entitled to as much money as she would like to think?
Truth 18/03/2019 at 10:56 pm
Hi greetings ,I have a question about a matter if you haven’t ever payed child support in 10 years right .and the mother ends up busted broke on struggle street .and puts in a calm against me will I be hit with a almighty bill ?.this is a legitimate question .i do have reason to believe I may not be the bio father could I stall her to I get DNA test ?.i am pretty upset about this the god damn child is growen up now like why in the hell should I be hit now ?.the child wants nothing to do with me because I am a stranger in reality.
JULES 17/03/2019 at 9:00 pm
hi does my partner have to pay maintenance out of his holiday pay
Al 12/03/2019 at 7:04 pm
My ex emigrated to Australia 15 years ago owing a considerable amount of csa, the dwp have wrote to me asking to I want this debt to be wrote off. , absolutely not. What are the chances of the uk dwp getting the money back if he lives in Australia LOG
Brian 08/03/2019 at 6:24 am
My ex wife falsely accused me of abusing my children. Repeatedly. To the point that i had to prove my innocence with social services and the police. As a result of this, i decided to stop seeing the children to keep myself, my other family members and friends safe from further false allegations. I still pay csa. However, now that i have no contact with either the mother or the children, how will i know if the childrens situation changes? What if the mother moves in with someone else? What if the children get pregnant, or leave school? How will i know when to stop paying? I have effectively given up parental responsibility in all ways except financial. I signed court papers to say i didnt want any further contact and am not able to do so. My ex has moved house and changed her mobile number, so i don't even know where they are. The money being wasted on her could be used for the child i have with my current wife and give us a better quality of life, instead of having to scrape the barrel to live because of the hefty payment out of my bank!
Slayer 28/02/2019 at 6:13 pm
My daughter is 18 and in collage 3 days a week and the other 4 days she works. She earns around 200 pounds a week.
Do I still have to pay child support to her.
Thanks in advance.
tango 20/02/2019 at 11:00 am
My eldest son is 18yrs old in September 2019. He’s doing a 3 year electrician apprenticeship and in Sept 19 will have completed his 1st year. His apprenticeship consists of an 6 -7 hour college day and a minimum 3 day paid working work.
My question is does this apprenticeship class as full time education and will I have to continue with my out of court maintenance agreement or can i stop paying?
Betsy boo 13/02/2019 at 2:13 am
Ok hear goes this is embarrassing and I know this is site manly for men but Mumsnet is no help .the father off my daughter was a abusvie men a drunk and likes a bit off snif now and then we’ll when I new him he did anyway .and I had him jailed many years ago I recently meet another chap who has raised questions about why I never made claim for child support and is in my ear about making a claim against my daughter father. I have tip toed around it .my current partner is like I have kids I pay child support because I am a men why does he get a pass I have to support my other kids and now yours to and I don’t find it fair .should I make a claim against him it has been along time and feel awkward with time frame your expertise would be appreciated thanks.
R-wilsons 06/02/2019 at 8:16 pm
In a bit of a pickle. Me and my ex split up over a year ago. I currently pay for her phone, her car and pay maintenance each week too. I’m paying out around £400 a month to my 2 children. We had a joint council tax bill and she promised to pay half but hasn’t so now I’m being hunted for the lot. I’ve paid my half already. I’ve now had an attachment to earnings and there taking a hefty amount from me for her debt? I can’t afford to pay the debt and her maintenance. I’ve told her I’m going to reduce her payments weekly to get it clear. It will only take a couple weeks but she’s now telling me I’m breaking the law? Any advice?
Gg 15/01/2019 at 9:46 pm
Is a BA honners degree classed as higher education ?
Rab 10/01/2019 at 7:08 pm
My child is currently in her 2nd year at sixth form studying A levels. Has already sat and passed some A level exams and will be 18 in a couple of months. She intends to go to university after 6th form finishes this year. When will I have to stop paying cms ? Any help would be appreciated as most things I read are as clear as mud. Some say you continue to pay cms at university until aged 20 others say you pay until A levels completed.
Goon71 09/01/2019 at 5:46 pm
If I take my children on holiday for a week. Do I still pay children maintenance to their mother for that specific week in question ?
Rob 06/01/2019 at 8:11 am
I married my ex in 2008. We had a daughter who was 6 months old at the time. My ex also had a daughter from a previous marriage. My ex left in 2017 for another man. We shared care of our youngest 50/50. The eldest (non-biological) lived with me full time for 18 months. Now the eldest, who is 17 and in full time education, has decided no longer wants anything to do with me. What rights do I have?
Chas 05/01/2019 at 9:45 am
Both my kids have not attended school or college for six months and are over 16 , can I stop paying maintenance?
Paulie 03/01/2019 at 9:40 am
How do I see the answers to above as some are very relevant to me??
Blank 29/12/2018 at 11:22 pm
My son lives with his other parent and has turned 16. Can I make payments direct to the him now instead of his other parent?
Dohey 29/12/2018 at 3:00 pm
My child lives with the other parent and has turned 16. Can I make payments directo the the child now instead of the other parent? I am not sure if my payment is used for my child but more for the remainder of the new family
J&TN 21/12/2018 at 2:50 pm
I pay more in child maintenance then it would ever cost me in additional costs if my children were in my full time care. The system is broken it financials penalises parents that have already suffered having their access to their children restricted.

Would an appeal look into that? and hopefully with commonsense someone would realise that I am already paying for a home setup for my children so I shouldn't have to pay their mothers rent and utility bills as well. I shouldn't be paying for two homes I should just be paying my share.
AGibz 13/12/2018 at 6:22 pm
Bit of advise needed the CMS have went straight to deduction of earnings order.
I missed 2 months payments while awaiting a reply from themselves and receiving parent.
This was due to receiving parent wanting all parental rights removed and my name of birth certificate.
I had fought for my child for 4 years and made decision to stop my fight. But not to stop maintenance . Until the mother pulled this.
After 3 weeks of back an forward with CMS and constantly getting contradicting info I asked for it to be raised to an investigation as not one piece of info I was given over the phone matched the next call. And same with messages to my self service portal.
Twice ibwas told complaint was raised. Twice the complaint was not raised.
I was also told by an advisor that the receiving parent claimed I have no children in my house. I have 3 step kids and a child to my wife. They where taking of my file without consulting me.
My case worker told me 2 days ago they would raise this as a fraudulent claim. Since then this has not been taken to the relevant department and I gave a new case worker who is refusing to do so. And when speaking to them I asked for a third time to raise this as a complaint against this case and that I want the receiving parent investigated for this fraudulent claim I was told no and I am ending the call goodbye .

I am totally at a loss as what to do now. There has been a fraudulent claim made on this case. A case worker has removed 4 children of the file without evidence other than a receiving parents word. I was also led to beleive (and case worker repeated this 3 times to my client rep) that there was no deductions of earnings for months of December and January. My new case worker says this was false and I am now looking at 2 Does in December right before Christmas.

Someone has to be held accountable for this and consequences faced.
Ray 12/12/2018 at 12:58 pm
If my daughter is on maternity leave from full-time education do I still have to pay child maintenance
bell 10/12/2018 at 12:20 pm
hi I currently pay my ex £75 a week through a family based arrangements (we have done this for 3 years)

However now my ex wants to go through the CMS to see if she can get more money.

If I am already paying her £75 a week can she do this?
Meg 30/11/2018 at 5:46 pm
Can anyone give me any advice? My partners ex has blocked contact and moved house and refuses to let us contact or know the new address. This has happened because concerns were brought up to social. We are now stuck not knowing how the kids are, she won’t tel us where they are but has the cheek to tell us to makesure we pay her. This can’t be legal for her to personally remove his rights and still be okay to push him for money. Our side of the family are absolutely heart broken.
Gc1234 28/11/2018 at 10:17 pm
I need some advice I have my child 1 week 2 and half day and the other week 2 days my ex only has the kids 2 a day week and when they are not with me they are either at her friends or her nans house, she want me to pay more cm now as she doesn’t get any help from government and she has had a new kid with her current parent, she also trying to change my times I pick and drop the kids off to her because “she has a life to live to” but I work Monday to Friday 5am till late or something I work away depending on my job, I’m really struggling to know if I go down the though csa and sort the money out that and show them the letter from solicitor and stuff or just give in to her, any advice would be great
Jayne 26/11/2018 at 10:34 pm
Hi, some asked about commission based bonuses and if they are considered.
My husband recently got his review and yes bonuses guaranteed or not are taken into account. As far as i’m aware they use your P60 for the calculation so any taxable income is included. My husband got a bonus last December which put last years income up. As his review is done every November it now means this next year he will be paying more every month despite not receiving any bonus this year. It should mean however that come next November his payments will be reduced again.
Jonzie 26/11/2018 at 9:49 am
Hi
Can you please advise on whether commission based bonuses are to be taken into account when calculating maintenance payments. I have heard that only guaranteed annual bonuses should be taken into account . . I can’t seem to find any information on bonus payments. The CMS says that all bonuses are to be considered. Is this correct ?
Craig 26/11/2018 at 7:29 am
Hi there
I have been paying Maintence to my daughter for the last 14 years and maintenance to my twin boys for the last 9 months , I have recently started a three year college course, I have read heard and been told that my payments could stop due to this as my wages hours have been reduced, I spoke with someone from CMS went on the Direct Gov website and spoke with others in the same situation, please could you confirm or deny this please Craig
Seeking info 22/11/2018 at 12:20 pm
Hi
cant not find anything tangible online anywhere on what happens when my child reaches 16 next yr and the CM payments

He is severely disabled and therefore can not do ' further education' and will be getting the PIA /DSA rather than child maintenance

I have spoken to CM but they do not know either so are seeking guidance , anyone know
Minniemouse 21/11/2018 at 7:54 pm
My husband left over a year ago and has never paid a penny towards our 2 children he barely sees them or contacts them he is on benefits and I want to know does he legally still have to pay maintenance Im aware it wouldn't be alot because he's on benefits but anything would help as I've been a single mum and been doing it all on my own for just over a Year I do work part time
Jax 21/11/2018 at 7:39 pm
I pay maintenance which I believe is slightly higher than the csa would request
It definitely isn't lower
It is voluntary and has been standing order for years
My rd has convinced herself she is owed more and threatens to go to csa
What will they do if they can see I'm.already paying a reasonable amount?
Stokesey 20/11/2018 at 11:30 am
Have recently separated from my kids mum and to begin with helped her every time she was struggling with money this has come to just under £6000 in 6 months. I have asked to sit down and discuss a fair maintenance payment moving forward but she is refusing she wants £700 a month plus £200 for child care on top. I have done the csa calculater and it says £480 a month she won’t discuss it despite me offering to meet her and for her to bring whoever she wants with her. I don’t want to stop paying as know csa will expect a back payment but also they won’t take into account the fact I have paid over the odds for 6 months. Any help or advice on what’s best for me to do
Kat 16/11/2018 at 11:20 pm
My question is if you aren't sure who the dad is but there is a name on the birth certificate the other child is his not sure about the other.when making a csa claim can you just put the one child on and not the other. If I'm going too sort dna out myself.
Marry 06/11/2018 at 10:32 am
HI I would like to ask you for help i have a child maintaince and father of my kids didnt paid for nearly 2years and he is working i let them know where does he work live Everything.I am constantly calling cma but they always telling me I have to wait for further action...its long process I am single mum.I am working partime.Please can z.you help me what should I do or where should I go...i would like to go to court but I am not sure is it worth it how long does it take and how much is it and is it any chance I can get to court for free.Sorry for my English still learning and please I apriciate any help.Many thanks Marie.
lewis1711 05/11/2018 at 3:11 pm
My husband has a daughter who turned 18 oin March and is attending university. We thought our maintenance (court ordered) finished on 30 June 2018 as it says 17 years of age or full time education whichever is the latter. However, her mother has asked for an extension which was granted pending proof from the uni of a full time course. We’ve now had a letter from court ordering us to continue to pay £125 (same rate as before) until 2021 as it’s classed as full time education.

This is quite frankly ridiculous. We had already spoken to his daughter about money and she has a) savings b) a grant c) is looking for a part time job. We agreed with her privately to put a certain amount away each month (when we could) for emergencies and this is what we have been doing since 1 August 2018 as we paid maintenance on 1 July 2018 as we weren’t sure when it ended. We also paid for other expenses for her such as student card etc

Surely this isn't right. We've two other children together as well who need our financial support
Magik 03/11/2018 at 8:38 pm
I have had my son removed from the case ànd my payments have increased.
WTF
Robbie long slong ha 02/11/2018 at 12:07 am
Sorry light humour on the nick name but im wondering if i open a savings account for my son and paid 25 pound a week into it for when hes older would i still have to pay me ex partner money.
Angrydad 01/11/2018 at 1:01 pm
Been paying for my child for 13 years no problem even tho I’m on the bread line, barely afford to survive week by week, I rob Peter to pay Paul constantly but I get by its extremely stressful. My problem is the mum is in full time employment earning more than I do, her partner also full time employment earning more than me. How is it fair I still have to pay ? My child stays with me weekends, I buy her cloths, I give her everything she needs. She so cared for. Why do I still have to live like I do on the bread line, I’m surviving not living how can this be rite?
LondonDad77 01/11/2018 at 12:26 pm
Hello, a basic question...regarding child maintenance support, do the amounts calculated as per CSA guidelines set the minimum amount you have to pay, or they can be overruled by a joint agreement with the other party? Many thanks for the advice
PJ 31/10/2018 at 9:25 am
Any advice pls?

Son's ex girlfriend has said she is pregnant (baby probably now born) and he is already paying maintenance for a child from a former relationship. Question is - how much will he have to pay for 2 children but from 2 different relationships?

We can see on the website it says 16% of gross pay for 2 kiddies, but not sure this is exactly right if two different relationships.

Wonder how is he ever going to get back on his feet.....
Dan 30/10/2018 at 11:45 pm
I have two young children with my wife and we have a mortgage. I have a daughter with an ex partner who I provide for monthly but she is bitter and threatening to go to child maintenance even though I provide a lot for my daughter monthly and extra for things like uniform, jackets,shoes and clubs etc. I just want to know that if she was to go through the child maintenance route would my children in my new relationship and mortgage etc be taken into consideration? I give her a lot but nothing is ever good enough. I don’t like the thought of going down the route of child maintenance getting involved as I do right by my daughter and I don’t like things like court and so on as I’m a fair and amicable person but would like to know in advance that my family home life won’t be affected as my ex keeps using this as a threat. It’s making mine and my wife’s life a misery and it’s not fair on my daughter as her mother behaviour affects her.
Ally 29/10/2018 at 7:44 am
Hi needing advice please, my son lived with me from October last year until the end of May and went back to live with his mother right away she started claiming child maintenance which was fine. At the beginning of September she chucked our 13 year old out again to live with me and my wife so you would think that child maintenance would stop but know they keep taking money from me and arrears from when he lived with me as she was in receipt of child benefit and still is. I contacted child benefit and put in an application forum in this can take 8 weeks but child maintenance is Still taking 466.00 every 4 weeks of us and it's left us completely skint. I have issued evidence to child maintenance of his new school as we live in a different district but this is not good enough it's only child benefit they can accept. It's so unfair we are so skint and it's not benefiting the children at all I have 10.00 left until I get paid in 5 days but will be skint again after bills and 466 to her. Please any advice would be great
Jam 25/10/2018 at 6:38 pm
Hi can anyone tell me that my son who now lives with his grandmother should be recieving money for his upbringing by his mother? She has handed him to her mother as his legal guardian, i just dont think its right that i pay to bring him up and have never been allowed in his life yet she hands him over to her mother coz she couldnt handle him and doesnt pay to bring him up??
Husky47 23/10/2018 at 8:49 am
If I'm going through the courts for contact, do I have to pay the mother maintainence still or can I put the money towards court proceedings without being help prosecutable
Sam 22/10/2018 at 6:08 pm
If a mothere say the father can never see the kids again does he still have to pay monly each week for his kids , the mother just living with another man as and wife
Lin24 20/10/2018 at 4:34 pm
Hi can someone help me pls my son is 18 now and gone to collage can I pay his maintenance direct to him instead of my ex who I've had a private arrangement with
Ally 18/10/2018 at 8:44 pm
Looking for help and advice. I left my ex last August 2017 I paid maintenance to her at the beginning of Oct 17 she kicked my 13 year old son out to live with me I never ever asked her for money nor did I claim child benefit, as I didn't think I could get it (silly me). My ex continued to claim child benefit and tax regardless, my son went back to live with her at the beginning of June she phoned cms right away and they took it straight from my wages amount of 430. She then kicked him out begining September this year and he won't be back she never cancelled cms and when i phoned i was told they will continue to take it as she still gets child benefit phoned child benefit and because she is still claimimg it goes into a dispute and takes upto 8 weeks for desicion thats another 2 wages it's shocking we are now struggling
Lee 12/10/2018 at 6:10 pm
I was married and she cheated behind my back for 2 years and never knew anything as a mug I no 7 years ago always paid a mount we agreed with then it has all gone wrong even though I’ve had the kids for the last 8 years every weekend and now I’m engaged she has hit me with the maintenance for the kids what do I do .......

Please help I’m always taken and paying for football and dancing and she has had 3 blokes since me and Ive been happy

Lee

Advise please
Osh 11/10/2018 at 4:20 pm
A friend who is a mother of a 6 year old wants an alleged father to submit to a paternity test for the sake of her son knowing his geneaology. This friend has been trying to engage the alleged father in discussing this for over 5 years now and she has repeatedly told him she doesn't want anything from him other than definitive proof of whether he is or isn't the father. Clearly the alleged father doesn't want to 'engage'. I've told her that the best course of action is to go through the Child Maintenance Service (CMS) who will request he submit to a DNA test if he denies being the father and deduct child maintenance from him at source if he refuses to comply to a test. Can she follow through this action even though she has repeatedly told him in the past that she's not after maintenance even if he is proved to be the father? Thus, can she effectively renaige on that previous offer of not wanting maintenance.
Bottom 11/10/2018 at 1:29 am
Hi i have always paid my maintenance but im now in a new relationship and my partner earns alot and my ex now wants the payments to go up alot and i dont no wat to do ??
Daz 10/10/2018 at 11:59 pm
Hi I am currently claiming CB ..for my son
And my ex wife is claiming for our daughter...I have a clean break order (financial).
But I have just been informed by csa that she is asking for cm ..for both of our children she has them one week and I the other ... She told me that she needs more money because she can't afford where she lives ... She has a boyfriend who lives with her ..Any advice on how to proceed ?
TopCat 04/10/2018 at 11:33 pm
Hi thank you for the site very informative!

I have had a deduction from earnings order by originally the CSA then CM for a child I have always protested child in question was not mine.
The CSA told me I had to prove I wasn’t the father but I couldn’t at the time afford a DNA test. I refused to pay for the child EVER. After a year or so of none payments to this child I had a deduction of earnings order which took large amounts of my pay to repay the debt, still I protested the child wasn’t mine. I got told it was down to me to prove the child wasn’t mine? I had no relationship with this woman or even knew her name yet this baby was mine (its maybe the second coming) so now 3 years on I have paid for the DNA and she refuses to do one... so here is my question I have never paid this women the CSA and CM have taken money out of my wages with no proof the child is mine can I claim back all my deduction of earnings??
Or is this stolen money gone?? I have had no dealings with childs mother or made payments to her as the child’s not mine yet the CM thought they were Robin Hood and stole from me to give to a liar.
Any advice would be great
Realist 02/10/2018 at 8:29 am
@dreamer.i don’t pay child support and the only way for me to see my daughter is though court and to go though the steps .but my daughter is 14 now so I won’t be going down that path .so yeah I don’t no what else to say .but the truth is I am done reflecting on the past and living in the (what if scenario).what is done is done some will judge me the (older ones )others won’t .if we meet in the future great to then I am just going to get on with whatever life I have left .ps sorry about the bombardment of posts in a messed up kind of way I found understanding and finally peace of my past .there is no chance I won’t ever go back to been with someone like my x she is toxic and ruthless without a conscience.yeah I can do better then that gods truth .
Dreamer 02/10/2018 at 4:50 am
My husband pays maintenance regularly and never missed a payment his ex now wants more money we are brits who had to leave the uk because of her actions we now live in the UAE the only income we have in the uk is a house ( on a mortgage) which is let out she is threatening court action any advice gratefully received
Kenny 01/10/2018 at 10:59 pm
Hi,
My ex is being difficult with me seeing my daughter, if I go to mediation could that cost be taken off of the child maintenance as she's refusing to pay towards it. Or would I just have to pay out hundreds for that on top of the child maintenance.
Gerald woob 29/09/2018 at 10:16 pm
@shiv.that is very kind of you .hey shiv I have question do you stay in the house over night sometimes when your ex stays over ?.wink wink .well I think he has got it made he gets to see your children plus feed the cat in the family home .then go live in a share house I remember my share house days lots cats coming and going happy days .i think the 10 deduction is fair every time he sees them it’s expensive in a share house.
Shiv 29/09/2018 at 5:05 pm
Hi
I have recently separated from my husband we have 3 children. He has moved into a shared house which isn't stumble for the children to stay at. So I have been kind enough to allow him to have them in the family home, when he has them over night I stay out! He insists in deducting money fro. My maintenance for this. But I can't see how this is right he doesn't provide a ting I leave fridge and cupboards stocked. Is it right for him to be deducting£10 every time he stays with them.
Ems 27/09/2018 at 3:01 pm
My son finished a college course in June, then turned 18 in July, and wasn’t sure of his next step. He has now started back at college, so should child maintenance be backdated or start from when he went back to college? Ex has never paid child maintenance for him, and only started paying for daughter mid July when we moved.
G_E 26/09/2018 at 9:11 pm
Would like to know if CSA would take into account i am in a new relationship and have 2 step sons, they live up north and i rent a property down south cause i have a good job. I travel back north every weekend with my daughter to be with my new partner and boys. Although they don't currently live with me i still support my girlfriend and them. Would this be taken into account as paying my ex a fair chunk cause i have a good job and work all the hours i can so i can pay the debt she left. Just seems the harder i work the more she gets!!

Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated.
South 25/09/2018 at 1:18 pm
My son is 20 in October n I am still paying csa for him, I thought child benefit stopped at a certain age and payments from me woukd stop, or do they stop when he reaches 20 or should it av been 19 please help
Dave 24/09/2018 at 1:22 pm
I’m happy to pay my ex to help towards my son but he use to stay 5 nights a week and now she’s stopped that so she can legally get payments as i want to go to court she is now asking for extra money as well as child maintance which is going through the legal route can she legally demand more money from me
Rikk77 23/09/2018 at 5:12 pm
Hi , can someone tell me of I still have to pay my ex wife child maintenance now the kids have been taken in to care for 12 weeks ?
stability??? 22/09/2018 at 6:35 pm
im suffering from a female narcissist as part of my recent break up with 2 young girls. Ex has broke all the promises we talked regarding how we were to do joint custody with monies relating to that. im battling to keep my tues/wed nights midweek and alternate wkends sat/sun nights. Im also covering her shifts,when she demands on top, which im not complaining about. On the money side tho shes demanding 49/wk still, and the kids get sent to her mothers fridays and she spends her monies out partying with her new chap (one of my friends she promised wouldnt happen ) while i spend time with my girls. iv never asked for a penny off her and like to buy them stuff also. I have records of money spent with them and i know her mother buys most of their stuff and with our 13yrs together, know she dosnt accept being paid back. Id rather pay her mother knowing its spent on kids. The thought of a direct debit for 200/mth to ex to fund her alcohol and probable drug habit feels so wrong knowing how spoiled she is. She walked out with our kids, car she sold immediatly towards her new car (her dads car aparently???), all the good furniture i agreed while we made promises and is now gaslighting me round town leaving me reclusive so as not to fall into her trap of getting drunk and causing a scene. So with this said, do these come into consideration as iv got a diary saying she hardly has them. She trying to shorten my days now, realising her " kids come first for her "speech dosnt match her partying lifestyle . im close to reporting her to social services or whome it may concern as from my familys side its totally ridiculous how shes behaving. She txt my mam one night to say i was gona kill myself!!!! why not call the emergency services if she thought that???? Shes tried talking me into anti depressants for yrs which i think was a ploy to gain the upper hand in child custody. Her mother is totally narcissistic also.
Steve 22/09/2018 at 7:29 am
I used to pay my ex via the CSA but then we came to our own agreement and I pay her directly, each month. The CSA case was closed and I continue to pay some arrears to them by DD. My Daughter is now 17 and at college 2 days per week, has a part time job and I would like to know whether I still need to pay the ex directly? The case relates to Scotland too, so don't know whether the rules are different.
Steve 21/09/2018 at 8:06 pm
My ex and I divorced last year after separating in 2011. Since then I have paid maintenance on an informal basis. I have the kids two nights a week. She has a new partner - a retired police superintendent with pension. They have far higher joint resources than me, both working and his pension. They have not cohabited before but they are moving in together into a big new place in a few weeks. They are renting out their existing houses while they do so so will have 2 rental incomes. I have had to leave my company pension when we separated as paying maintenance and a pension was just not possible - well, it would have left me with almost nothing to live on and I felt compelled to pay my share towards my kids. I have asked for her to consider reducing the maintenance I pay in view of our respective financial positions and the fact they will be cohabiting in a new house. She has come back effectively demanding I continue paying the max amount based on me having them 2 nights a week. She is not prepared to budge one iota or negotiate any reduction.

Do I have ANY real options here or am I just obligated to pay the full amount?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Pat 21/09/2018 at 7:26 pm
I’m currently paying csa to my daughter who I’m told now attends further education I’m in dispute of monies paid to my ex partner who says I’m in arrears I have the monies deducted at source my latest partner has asked me to leave and wants to claim csa what can I expect to pay I’ve gone home to my parents and am struggling already to find these payments can you advise please
SeparatedDads Editor 18/09/2018 at 2:08 pm
Once child benefit stops (when your daughter begins work or paid training), then you have a right to stop child maintenance payments.
Steve 17/09/2018 at 3:34 pm
Hi
My daughter has turned 16 and just left school to do a hairdressing apprenticeship. She is now there full time and paid a small wage but also does some learning hours within the salon towards her NVQ hairdressing qualification. Do I need to still keep paying or am I within my rights to now stop? I have always paid an agreed amount each month direct to her mum privately with no CSA involvement and nothing written down.
LauriR Editor 18/09/2018 at 12:43 pm
@Mrgunty88 - they would still go to the mother (if she is still paying towards the care of your child and receiving child benefit). Unless the mother has absolved all responsibility, in which case the grandad could claim from both you and your child's mother. Basically, the person receiving child benefit is the person who can claim child maintenance.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/09/2018 at 2:48 pm
While the resident parent is still in receipt of child benefit, you would not be eligible for a reduction. Any earnings your son makes would be considered the equivalent of pocket money.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/09/2018 at 1:52 pm
Regardless of whether your ex has re-married, by law you (as their father) are still responsible for paying towards the day-to-day care of your children. Your children are not considered your ex's husband's responsibility. Your children remain your responsibility. Unless your ex agrees to you putting the money in an ISA, you would have to continue to pay her directly.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/09/2018 at 1:01 pm
You do not have to pay if your daughter is earning a wage. You only pay until the young person is age 20 if they are studying up to A-Levels.
Mrgunty88 17/09/2018 at 10:40 am
my child is no longer in the care of the mother but has been put wothe his grandad what happens to my payments as they were going to her.
Daz 16/09/2018 at 12:48 pm
Do I have to still pay Maintanance for my two children know my ex has married again? Could I just open a isa and put the money away for the kids instead?
Brian 15/09/2018 at 2:36 pm
I pay every week for my daughter she is 17 and will leave college I guess next year (June 19) if she goes on to do apprenticeship do I still have to pay as she will be earning ? As I see it says you have to pay until there 20 which is ludicrous
Dave 15/09/2018 at 9:42 am
I divorced almost 7 years ago. I had a clean break and left with a 5% settlement and my pension. We have had no issue with child maintenance having agreed ourselves using the cmo calculator regularly. There is 1 14 year old receiving payment. My wife is remarried now and has come into family wealth whilst I struggle to save and have had the option to ‘treat’ any of my children and step children (I am remarried also) all but removed as disposable income is tight and whilst my wife is now mortgage free I have a large mortgage. My question is - now she is married again can I lessen or cease the payment so I am able to then do things such as buy uniform or university items for the eldest?
Cars 15/09/2018 at 8:41 am
Hi, my son is now 16 and in college, he is also working. Would the amount I pay in maintenance be eligible for a reduction? Thankyou
Xoi 15/09/2018 at 12:55 am
If I do not have parental rights do I need to pay ?
GJ 14/09/2018 at 4:25 pm
I have been refused contact by the courts. Do I still pay maintenance?
hitman22 13/09/2018 at 5:38 pm
my son lives with his mum and her partner, they have kids together but my son wants nothing to do with me he wants me to sign him over. do i still pay csa if i do?
SeparatedDads Editor 13/09/2018 at 3:38 pm
Child maintenance payments are not based upon the resident parent's earnings but are based upon the earnings of the non-resident parent. The amount your ex earns is not considered relevant.
SeparatedDads Editor 13/09/2018 at 1:55 pm
Yes, every non-resident parent is considered by law to be responsible for paying towards the day-to-day support of their children. The matter of how much, depends upon the non-resident parent's income and circumstances
Kk 12/09/2018 at 7:51 pm
My partner has 2 kids by different women he's not on either child's birth certificate has no contact with either kids is he still liable to pay maintenance also he has a 3rd child that we have at weekends and holidays is he liable to pay maintenance for this child when I pay for everything he needs when he's here thanks in advance
Ben 11/09/2018 at 2:57 pm
My ex and I have recently separated and gone through mediation. We are both shift workers, I work 4 on 4 off and she is a nurse and works a variety of shifts. We have agreed that I will have my daughter on my days off (2-3 nights a week) and she will have her 4 nights a week. As the care of the child is almost 50:50 do I still have to pay child maintenance? Online calculator works out I pay £189 a month but this seems unfair as she will pay nothing and care is split between us. Is this correct?
anon 11/09/2018 at 12:49 pm
Hi, Do I still have to pay child maintenance if my ex (who has our 16yr old) earns substantially more than me (3 times more)? My current situation is very tight, just covering the basics eg. rent, food etc is a struggle. I am in full time employment and do not qualify for any benefits. Many thanks in advance.
Branston 11/09/2018 at 10:42 am
Hi could you offer advice for question I posted on 21st August 2018 concerning the way my CMS payment is worked out even though I contribute 6% pension
Best Regards
Branston
K 10/09/2018 at 7:32 pm
I'm not named on the birth certificate and the mother has refused DNA privately. Csa have began chasing me for payments and want me to pay £230 for an approved paternity test to prove I'm not the father. Am I actually liable to pay anything?
SeparatedDads Editor 10/09/2018 at 11:28 am
Your son would have to take this up directly with CMS. If your son feels he is being unfairly treated
SeparatedDads Editor 10/09/2018 at 9:56 am
Child maintenance is based on overnight stays. If your child is with the paying parent between: 52 and 103 nights: child maintenance is reduced by 1/7th for each child, 104 and 155 nights: child maintenance is reduced by 2/7th for each child, 156 and 174 nights: child maintenance is reduced by 3/7th for each child, 175 nights or more nights: child maintenance is reduced by 50%, plus an extra £7 a week reduction for each child. , which explains more.
Sorcha 09/09/2018 at 3:56 pm
My ex continued to pay same amount after my eldest left school at 16 and a half to do an apprenticeship. My son just turned 18 and I also have a younger child nearly 17 who is at school full time.
The month before my son turned 18 the payments stopped. My ex is still supposed to be paying for my younger child though?
I’m wondering that he is thinking because he overpaid for approximately 16 months (he probably assumed my son had stayed on at school then recently heard he’d left school 16 months ago) that he doesn’t need to continue paying now due to overpaying? Even although I have a child he is still liable to pay for? My children and I have no contact with him at all. He chose not to see the children after we separated 12 years ago. After we separated his lawyer advised him of a monthly amount to pay in child maintenance which I agreed to and it was paid into my bank account every month.
This is in Scotland by the way.
K 09/09/2018 at 2:27 pm
My son is having his baby 4 nights a week paying ex what CSA advised but had been paying double what he should have in 6mths prior to this. Can he now reduce payments as over paid provided its within this tax year?
Ben 09/09/2018 at 7:25 am
My children have decided that they will not see me as often, due to educational needs and social events.
Do I pay my ex-partner more mantaince for this chikds decision.
Libby 09/09/2018 at 7:22 am
My children do not come and stay as much now, due to education and social events. Do I pay my ex-partner more mataince .
samsam70 07/09/2018 at 4:09 pm
My ex wife left me and my 3 sons, 5 years ago now, remarried as soon as divorce was through, 48 hours after absolute came through, no financial settlement was made as she left out that there was a joint property and 3 kids when filing out the divorce petition in order for it to go through quicker, I was in no frame of mind to check petition let alone go about claiming maintenance so i never did, my 3 sons were all under 18 at the time, my youngest is nearly 17 now, is there any point of me trying to claim any maintenance now or trying to get it backdated, i've read that you have to pay £20 to get this started, i'm still a single Dad and £20 is a lot of money right now as my ex is going through the courts to get half of the house but that's another story !
Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks !
SeparatedDads Editor 07/09/2018 at 12:31 pm
Unfortunately, unless the mother agrees that you can pay your daughter directly then while your daughter is in receipt of child benefit the payment has to go to the mother. If your child is not living at home, then your only option would be to seek legal advice about refering it to the courts. However, if the mother is still helping pay for your daughter with regards to her day-to-day care then it's unlikely the courts would opt in your favour here. If she isn't and your daughter is not living at home, you may have a case.
Mum 05/09/2018 at 9:25 am
I am a Mum, Dad won residency of my kids last year. Currently the boys are here with me as social services placed them with me due to boys witnessing a domestic violence attack in ther house, but risk assessments have taken place and it seems boys are safe to go bk to Dad. BUT my boys don’t want to go back. There is a court order in place but we both have parental rights. What will happen if I don’t send the kids back to Dad?
Deco 04/09/2018 at 6:39 pm
I pay my daughters mum £600 per month..My daughter is 17 and in full time education 3 days per week.My daughter and I have a great relationship and I see her every week..I give her on average about £50 per week to help her.She has moved out of her mothers and lives with her boyfriend..who is unemployed and they don’t have much money..my daughter does not get any money from her mother and I buy everything for my daughter..it of course would be better if I gave all the maintenance money to my daughter and not to supplement her mothers income.Iv spoken to the child maintenance people about this and they have told me i must keep paying the mother whilst she is receiving child tax credits..despite the information I have given them..my daughter does not want to get involved with these problems and I don’t talk to her about it ..because I don’t want to upset her..it’s a very unfair system mostly for fathers..I understand why fathers walk away from their children with the family courts being so unfair and unreasonable..about 15 years ago I spent £20,000 in legal fees,court costs and contact center fees which where £120 per hour!!..The family court and system use your love for your child against you..I feel sorry for men going through this now ..it was a long time ago for me..but even now I still remember how I was treated and now the system is still so unfair ..
SeparatedDads Editor 04/09/2018 at 3:21 pm
Anything you 'choose' to pay above your assessed CMS amount is considered discretionary.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/09/2018 at 9:27 am
If the mother of your child agrees, the money can go directly to your son via a family-based child maintenance arrangement. However, theoretically or if the arrangement was organised through CMS it would go to the resident parent towards his day-to-day care.
Green 03/09/2018 at 12:46 pm
My ex receives i.r.o £750/month maintenance for our daughter through the CMS. She has recently asked for 1/2 of fees to be paid for one of her hobbies. I am told that statutory CM arrangement is my legal obligation, that this includes day-to-day living but also hobbies and special interests. We used to have an informal arrangement whereby I would pay a monthly amount and then top up for other stuff but this has now changed and feel this is now too excessive....
SeparatedDads Editor 03/09/2018 at 10:12 am
If you are married and you have a property that could be conceived as being jointly owned through marriage, then your ex may be able to claim part of this as part of a divorce settlement. However, this is different from child maintenance payments and (if eligible) she can claim part of the property regardless of the amount of child maintenance you are paying. Child maintenance is based on income not assets. To find out more, you would have to seek professional legal/financial advice.
Ally 03/09/2018 at 3:15 am
I agreed to pay my ex a certain amount each month as apart of our divorce . My son left school at 16 and started collage but gave up after 2 months . 3 months later he got a job through collage were the collage paid him £50 each week and he had a placement 3 days a week for work experience . He left this last month and wants to go back to collage for his a levels again.
My agreement with his mother was that I paid her each month till he reached 17 or left full time education which ever the latter.
He is now 17 so as he had left collage and was over 17 I stopped paying her and supported him directly .
As he is going back to I have to pay her again or can I continue to do it directly to him ?
Doty 25/08/2018 at 2:55 pm
My partner has been paying child maintenance for his son who has been going to collage since leaving school . The lad is now 19 and wasn't sure to carry on but now he is going to carry on at collage but has had to get a student loan does my partner still have to pay child maintenance
Sparky 25/08/2018 at 5:16 am
My girls are 16 they're twins I have no contact as the mother stopped it years ago and moved away I don't know where they are. I pay maintenance every week I have done for 10 years. I recently emailed and asked if they are still in education. And for proof the ex said they are but refuses to give me proof where do I stand on this as I'm not happy to accept her word on it.
Kellyb 24/08/2018 at 11:17 pm
My son is 18 and has a child of his own i pay my ex £80 a week. Do i still need to continue this if he is bringing up a child of his own.. please help im going around in circles and cannot afford these payments im on the brink of suicide
Trio 23/08/2018 at 7:43 pm
I have an 18 year old girl, who attends college studying hairdressing. She is also working 16 or more hours per week and her mother claims PIP payments due to ADHD. I continue to pay monthly instalments towards her maintenance is this ok or should I pay nothing
Dandruff 23/08/2018 at 7:09 pm
My daughter was not married to John but had a child 18 years ago.
John the father left the family home after 3 months and has not paid anything to the upbringing of my daughters boy over all these years.
My daughter has found out that the father has been left a large estate on the death of his parents and he is an only child. Does my daughters son have any right to to the estate or owed money owed by the father.
1234 23/08/2018 at 1:38 pm
Hello, I have two daugghters with my ex wife and two new kids with my new partner (not married, nor civil partnership - we just live together). As she earns more than me, I we have decided that I would stay home to look after the kids and she works. I am therefore not earning anymore. Can the CSA take in my partner's earning instead of mine to calculate Child Maintenance? Thank you.
Lee 22/08/2018 at 10:58 pm
My wife had a daughter when we met, I've raised her as my own for the last 7 years, she doesn't see her biological dad. I don't have perential responsibility for her or have adopted her. She is now 13. I see her some weekends - maybe once a month. I currently pay maintenance for her because I thought it was the right thing to do. Is this correct? Legally can she force me to or could I stop? We had a son together and I see him 4 nights a week and pay for him too thanks
Hoppo 22/08/2018 at 2:29 pm
Can anyone help me cause the useless child maintenance team cant can i pay my 18 year old daughter child maintenance direct into her bank as i am not convinced that the money i pay my X wife goes on my daughter.
Mom 21/08/2018 at 5:13 pm
Hi, I have a question please:

Son lived with mother as resident parent, father non-resident paid Maintaince.

Mothers died when son was 17. Son has to take responsibility for himself as no suitable guardian. Son in full time education and now 18, where does he stand on support from father?
Branston 21/08/2018 at 7:29 am
CMS are accessing payments on gross figure from HMRC.This figure does not reflect my 6% pension contributions per year as it is paid relief at source so does not come of my yearly gross figure sent to CMS.I have sent CMS proof of pension contribution via pension provider annual statements and 12 month pay slips for the tax year concerned.The CMS replied because its not 25% either way payments will stay the same.I thought CMS payments were gross pay minus pension contribution.The difference between gross pay and gross pay minus pension per month is a lot.Please advise on this issue
c.laurie 20/08/2018 at 9:57 pm
@sammi.its doesn't matter if owns a property and rents it out as long as the rent is lower then the repayments its not a income and stands for nothing gods truth .doesnt come into play with child support or tax you right it off as a lose .
c.laurie 20/08/2018 at 8:09 pm
@sammi.i was in a situation like that except my relationship was open on her side anyway and i played the happy family dude what a joke that was i wasted years been unhappy i wanted to be free .her father would [lecture me and my family to about doing the right thing] i was kid and wanted to out with my mates partying and dating young women gods truth .not paying for this fat middle aged women who was in love with my uncle to sit in my house all day expecting to pay for her horses and children i wanted to[ kill myself back then from the suffering and torture] because i sick to death of that life every christmas my mates offer me to do some mad stuff .i had to sit at her mum and dads place bored as hell they where in there late 70s i was in my prime .i was my uncle had more game back then and lured her away so i could be free .now she never wanted child support because she is loaded thank you god .
Sammi 20/08/2018 at 4:25 pm
My ex who i was never married to (common law partners for a decade).says he doesnt work and pays a v small amount less than £50 cash !! per month for our 2 children. He has them 3nights a week. He is getting married soon will i be able to claim anything? I know he owns several properties but got nasty when i applied through CMS about 2years ago can anyone offer advice.
Smiler 20/08/2018 at 8:42 am
I pay maintenance for my kids every month my ex wife now wants more I am no longer a resident of the uk but do own a property I rent out can she go after that property ?
Blossom 19/08/2018 at 5:14 am
after seperating from the father of our child (we were never married), I took a job in France and then Switzerland. He doesn't pay the monthly amount of child maintenance that we agreed. Is there anything I can do to enforce payment?
Blossom 19/08/2018 at 5:12 am
After separaring from the father of our child (we were never married) I took a job abroad (in France then Switzerland). The father doesnt pay the agreed 200£ month of maintenance that we agreed. Is there anything I can do to enforce payment now that I have left the UK?
SeparatedDads Editor 17/08/2018 at 1:46 pm
Whilst your son's mother is still in receipt of child benefit for him then you will have to keep paying child maintenance. and here , which will explain further.
Rafa 17/08/2018 at 1:24 pm
Question: my son is 16 and lived with his mother but he moved out end of July to live with a friend (who is also 16). My son and friend live on their own which is a concern for me but I am also paying my ex wife the child maintenance and she is still getting the child support. is this right ? My son is only getting a fraction of what i paid and i want to stop paying the chils maintenance and deal with my son direct ? How do I go about this as the CSM said I still need to pay my ex wife but she's not looking after him.
SeparatedDads Editor 14/08/2018 at 11:04 am
Every non-resident parent of a child has to pay toward the child's upkeep regardless of whether they see the child or not. If your partner has been denied access, he would have had the option to apply through court for access which is considered a separate issue to child maintenance payments. If your partner is paying for one child on the basic rate, then he would pay 12% of his gross weekly income, which is considered affordable (unless he has arrears to pay - you don't say). With such blanket laws in place it is difficult to negotiate a way out/around of his financial commitments to his child. If your partner feels he is being unfairly treated he can complain, If he feels he is sliding into debt, House sharing or renting a room for a bill-inclusive price may be a way of trying to get around such issues until he can financially get back on his feet. Unfortunately, I cannot offer more help except to say that soon his child will finish full-time education (at A-Level completion or the equivalent) and as soon as his child's resident parent ceases being eligible to receive child benefit he can stop payments (as long as he is not in arrears).
SeparatedDads Editor 13/08/2018 at 3:42 pm
Regardless of what your ex earns are what her boyfriend earns, you would still have to pay child maintenance. Every non-resident parent is responsible for contributing financially to the day-to-day care of their children.
Ash 13/08/2018 at 2:24 pm
My Ex-Wife who earns around £45K a year, has now moved in with her new Boyfriend who is a very wealthy man (Earns over £150K a year, £2M House, etc.) and as such she is no longer entitled to Child Benefit for my child as their Household income is over the threshold and lose it all in the Tax Charge.
Do I still have to pay Child Maintenance as she/they are not entitled to Child Benefit?
JS14 13/08/2018 at 12:05 pm
Hi, My partner is paying for his 18 old, which he has been denied access to see him for the past 10 years. He doesn't have a high paid job, and it is leaving him with under £600 a month to pay for rent/bills/and to live. His mental health has dramatically declined, as it is making him depressed about his financial troubles. I'm desperate to help him, I just don't know where to start. Can you please point me int he right direction?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 13/08/2018 at 11:37 am
Your partner would only stop paying child maintenance when his 18-year-old leaves approved education or training (on completion of A-Levels or the equivalent level of training). The payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). If your husband is paying the basic rate of income then if he's paying for one child, he’ll pay 12% of his gross weekly income, two children 16%, or if he is paying for three or more children, he will pay 19% of his gross weekly income.
Midge77 11/08/2018 at 1:01 pm
Hello my husband has 3 othr children with his ex wife. One if them is to turn 18 soon. Do you stop paying child maintenance and does the actual cost stay the same or lower as your paying for less
SeparatedDads Editor 10/08/2018 at 2:31 pm
When your child leaves approved education or training (once A-Levels or the equivalent have been completed) then payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first).
Bahey 10/08/2018 at 7:45 am
Hi my son is 18 still lives with his mother and her partner .
He has just finished 6th form and has enrolled on a further education course with a view to take a degree online . He only has to attend 2 lectures a week which is less than 12 hours in class and is actively seeking employment to suit this course . My question is am I still legally bound to continue paying maintenance?
SeparatedDads Editor 09/08/2018 at 12:15 pm
If you are eligible still to receive child benifit you can claim child maintenance if your child's father is earning. If CMS cannot deal with it, then you would have to apply to court. You may wish to give CMS a call to establish whether you have a case to answer.
Ella 07/08/2018 at 6:31 pm
Can i make my expartner pay child maintenance for my 18 year old son. He is still in full time education and i recieve child benefit for him. Theres no contact between me and the father as when we broke up he stopped seeing our son. A year ago. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 07/08/2018 at 3:03 pm
If you have a family-based child maintenance arrangement, CMS would not be able to help. Only if you register a claim with CMS can back-dated pay be enforced.
SeparatedDads Editor 07/08/2018 at 12:22 pm
You would have to speak to CMS directly regarding this matter to see what counts as evidence. As a general rule, CMS take the word of the resident-parent regarding how many days the other parent has their children overnight. Perhaps requesting mediation may be a way of outlining what days you have your children overnight, then this could act as a confirmation. The only other option (if your ex will not attend mediation) is to apply to court.
Netty 07/08/2018 at 11:06 am
Hello I split with my husband on 22/5/18 and our daughter lives with me, he paid our rent at the beginning of June saying that was him paying maintenance for my daughter for that month. (He was going to pay nothing even though he’d lived here for 3 weeks of may). He started paying maintenance at the beginning of August so I was wondering if it is possible for me to contact CMS to find out if it’s possible to backdate as he paid nothing in July? And would I need a reference number in order to do this? Please can you tell me my rights in this matter? Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/08/2018 at 3:26 pm
Your partner can find out how much he should be paying via which
SeparatedDads Editor 06/08/2018 at 12:44 pm
If the other parent isn't allowing you access, then you can apply to court to have access reinstated. CMS does base payments on the amount of nights you have your child over, , which will tell you all you need to know.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/08/2018 at 10:12 am
Yes, if you pay via CMS, then CMS take this into consideration when working out how much you should pay. If you have a family-based child maintenance arrangement then you decide an arrangement between yourselves. The CMS calculator can help
Dads 05/08/2018 at 5:08 pm
Hi, my partner has 2 children with he’s ex wife.. he has them 3 nights a week every week, and even occasionally has them for whole weeks a couple of times a year when he has holidays. He pays for almost all their school trips, weekly activities, school uniform, provides clothes and footwear throughout the year yet she’s claiming he should be paying £150 a month to contribute to their 2 children? Surely this isn’t right? I’m a mother myself so do understand the opposite parent providing for their children’s upbringing, but he’s doing more than enough. ? any abswers to this?
Jay 05/08/2018 at 2:17 pm
Hi i have a question i have a sense who is 7 his mum decided i cant see him anymore after i was asking to have him more often than 2 days every 2 weeks we agreed for me to pay £120 a month through bank transfer now shes asking for more money or go through child maintenance is this right i mean its her who doesnt allow me to see him will i need to pay more? Thanks
Mjs 05/08/2018 at 7:46 am
My son stay with me for all of the summer holidays and two nights per week. Do I have to pay maintenance during these periods
CJ 04/08/2018 at 11:04 am
My ex partner has been claiming CMS for our two children since September 2017. She stated to them that I do not see or have them what so ever. However I have my children every weekend Friday to Sunday overnight aswell as extra days and nights throughout school holidays. What proof would be acceptable for the CMS to see that she is lieing? Is it illegal for her to make such a false statement? Any advice would be great!! Thanks
Macca8030 02/08/2018 at 8:37 pm
So how does it work if you have 2 children to one mother 104 nights per year and another child to a different mother who you see less say 50 nights per year and you dont live with any of your children?
CharlieG Editor 03/08/2018 at 12:58 pm
@Mj - CMS prefer parents not to pay through CMS, so unless your son doesn't pay on time or delays payment then she has no grounds to apply through CMS.
Mj 02/08/2018 at 7:54 pm
Hi. I currently pay for my son through cms. His mother isn't happy about the amount they have told her. My wife is worried she can change the arrangement from direct pay to collect and pay with all the extra charges on. If I keep paying her. Can she change it
Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/08/2018 at 2:13 pm
Much depends upon whether your partner's child's other parent will still be eligible to claim child maintenance. If they are, then your partner would have to continue to pay as child maintenance payments stop when eligibility to child benefit ceases. to find out what the eligibility requirements are.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/08/2018 at 12:06 pm
You do not have to pay for your 21 year old. If your 18 year old has finished their A-Levels and has left approved education or training, then payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). You would have to pay for your 17 year old until he/she has finished approved education. As child maintenance stops when child benefit payments stop, then
SeparatedDads Editor 02/08/2018 at 11:47 am
If your daughter has left full-time approved education or training payments up to A-Levels, then your payments should stop when child benefit stops; at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). You only have to pay until your daughter is aged 20 if she is studying up to A-Level equivalent.
Anon1 02/08/2018 at 11:46 am
My ex partner pays for 2 children my child and another child he has now got back with the mother of the other child but hasn't told child maintence, Will this effect my money?
Jussy 01/08/2018 at 9:22 pm
I have 3 children that I pay maintenance for. 1 is now 21 and has apprenticeship, 1 is 18 and has left school and waiting to go an internship and 2 is 17 who is planning to go to college in Sept. Do I still have to pay maintenance? As i have re married and have 2 children under the age of 3
None 01/08/2018 at 8:11 pm
My daughter is 18 doing ALevels and has informed me she doesn’t want to go to Uni yet as she wants to work and travel first. Why do I have to keep paying her mum payments until she’s 20 to support her?? How is this far. I have never missed a payment throughout her life but this is too much now.
DaveC Editor 02/08/2018 at 2:18 pm
@Knockerefc If this is not agreed via CMS directly then yes you will for sure.
Knockerefc 31/07/2018 at 11:07 pm
My wife has agreed a lower cm package for me but i give my daughter pocket money. I also pay towards school trips and uniform. Will I eventually get a big bill for not paying?
Coops87 31/07/2018 at 8:30 pm
Hi, my partner pays for his 2 children who are 16 and 15. The 16 year old has just finished school and is going to residential college, meaning he’s away from home Monday-Friday. As he won’t be in either parents home for 5 days a week does the csa payment get reduced? I’m concerned she’ll receive money for a child that isn’t even in the home.
SeparatedDads Editor 31/07/2018 at 1:36 pm
By law, every non-resident parent has to pay towards the day-to-day care of their child regardless of whether the child was planned or not.
SeparatedDads Editor 31/07/2018 at 12:12 pm
You may wish to speak to Child Maintenance Options, You should be able to claim child maintenance. However, if your ex is contributing financially this could be seen as a family-based child maintenance arrangement which may stop if you claim child maintenance.
Whattodo123 31/07/2018 at 9:02 am
I have an illegitimate child that I am paying for, but I did not know it was born until it was, I have never seen the child. Why should I need to pay for the maintenance when I didn't want the child or even know it was born until I got the csa letter demanding payments? Have I any rights or do i just need to keep paying regardless?
Anon 30/07/2018 at 6:34 pm
My partner has left us but currently still pays half the bills, I pay the mortgage he pays everything else. Can I claim child maintenance or do I have to wait until everything is in my name
SeparatedDads Editor 30/07/2018 at 3:23 pm
Your ex is entitled to apply to CMS for child maintenance from you (if you are the non-resident parent). The only time a DOE order is put in place is if the non-resident parent refuses to pay or cannot be located. Unfortunately, there is little you can do here as by law you have to pay towards the day-to-day care of your child. If you feel you have been treated unfairly, you can complain here .
SeparatedDads Editor 30/07/2018 at 3:15 pm
I am sorry to hear this. You cannot force your son's ex to accept money. However, she may change her mind if your son applies for access
Al2106 30/07/2018 at 12:53 pm
my ex is vindictive and has gone to the cms and concocted a story to them. she failed to give any contact address etc for me and now i have a deduction of earnings from me which has left me in financial difficulties where i can’t pay my rent etc. i am getting no where with the cms and wonder if someone can offer me assistance as i don’t begrudge paying just so much
SeparatedDads Editor 30/07/2018 at 10:58 am
If your husband's ex wife and your husband had a family-based child maintenance arrangement (and she has not previously applied to CMS) then she would not be able to apply for back pay.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/07/2018 at 10:24 am
If the resident parent is still in receipt of child benefit, then theoretically your ex could apply to court. As a rule, child maintenance payments stop when child benefit does. which will tell you what is considered government approved education where you would have to pay child maintenance.
Claire 30/07/2018 at 7:49 am
Hi
My son has a son with a girl who he isn’t in a relationship with. She has tried to block him all through pregnancy & since as has a new boyfriend(since 3rd month of pregnancy) Also has not named him on birth certificate. My son wants to pay maintenance for his son , but she has refused it. We think she has been told that he doesn’t have any rights if she doesn’t take his money . Is there any way he can force her to accept payments as he wants the best for his baby, as he is the most important in all this.
Mark 28/07/2018 at 5:52 pm
Hi. I have been paying, and haven't missed a payment, for 1 child for the past 14 years on a private agreement. Child is now approaching 18. I have a legal document as part of the divorce financial settlement that states no payments post age 18. Child is still in full time education, and probably will be for a few years. Do I still continue to pay? Thanks in advance.
Grhl 28/07/2018 at 11:11 am
My husband and his ex wife had an agreement of pay for there 3 children however now she has told him she is going to csa and will get back payment even tho he has payed money into her bank since they spilt . Is this true can she get back payment?
SeparatedDads Editor 27/07/2018 at 12:24 pm
Firstly, do not stop paying child maintenance as you will be liable for arrears and they will mount up. Every non-resident parent is responsible for paying child maintenance whether they see their children or not. Child maintenance and child access are not connected. You cannot save up to pay your children directly - this is not an option via CMS. If you wish to see your kids, you have to apply for a child arrangement order
don 26/07/2018 at 11:23 pm
I current have 2 family arrangements with my 2 of my ex. I am splitting from my current partner whom I will also need to make payment too. She does not want any arrangement. How would the cms work my payment out as I do not see the option of making payments to several partners on their site.
Costel 26/07/2018 at 8:56 pm
My wife refused to let me see my kids when I meet someone else after we separated and it's been 3 years but made allegations about me and 1 of my children not on police bail.ive been paying maintenance since but I this week i stoped paying as I want to see my kids.
Need advice better ex and refused can I set up saving for my kids and pay it to them not her
SeparatedDads Editor 26/07/2018 at 2:08 pm
Child access and child maintenance have no bearing upon each other. According to law, every non-resident parent is responsible to pay financially towards the day-to-day upkeep of their child regardless of whether the parent sees the child or not. It is rare a court will stop contact with a parent unless there is provable evidence that the parent should not see the child. I can only suggest you keep up payments with CMS, as otherwise CMS can come after you. If you feel you have been unfairly treated regarding access, you should seek legal advice to see whether you have a case to take the matter back to court.
KALTAK 25/07/2018 at 9:47 pm
My ex-wife cheated on me and afterwards made so many false accusations to take my daughter away from me. She is brain washed and because of that the court made a final decision not to have any contacts with her (because I fed up with my ex’s false accusations). On the top of this, my ex is chasing the CMA (without shame) me to make regular payments but I’m refusing to pay. It looks like I will have to pay.

How can I stop paying CMA? I don’t think I will ever see my daughter again (even if I see her again, she will never be the same child).
SeparatedDads Editor 23/07/2018 at 2:50 pm
If your child is going to college in September for further education up to A-Level qualifications, then you would continue to pay child maintenance until your child leaves full-time further education or turns 20. As child benefit and child maintenance work together and stop in unison
SeparatedDads Editor 23/07/2018 at 12:42 pm
Regardless of whether you have anything to do with your child with regards to contact or access, by law you still are responsible for paying towards her day-to-day welfare in the form of child maintenance.
SeparatedDads Editor 23/07/2018 at 11:40 am
Child maintenance and child access are considered as two separate issues and are not dependent upon each other. If your partner is having access issues, then these need to be dealt with either through mediation or court.
Scott 22/07/2018 at 9:40 pm
Ive been paying maintenance for my four children and my ex wife said she is getting married and moving. Two of the children will live withme full time and two will live with her. Will I have to pay any maintenance.I work.I think she will give up work when she moves and gets married,
Jonesy 22/07/2018 at 5:43 pm
A woman has become pregnant and i stated to her i didnt want a child and i didnt want anything to do with it after she told me she was on contraception and told me she was going for an abortion , she now still pregant and again i have said i want othinf to do with this child . Do i still have to pay thru csa for this child if she goes ahead with it?
Pix 21/07/2018 at 8:36 pm
My partner and his child's mother had a financial agreement in place, but we recently received emails and calls from her saying that because of her new stage of unemployment benefit, that she was required to prove she was receiving the amount that would be expected via CMA using the calculator, and that payments would need to be increased (quite significantly). My partner made the adjustments immediately but since then she has gone against their agreed access time, and my partner has not been able to see his child for 6 months (partially extended because she plans to go on holiday with their child for 6 weeks during the summer holidays). When he asked for proof of her claim for his records, she has not provided them and has directly contacted herself, saying this payment was not to be linked to her benefits after all and that she is merely ensuring his child is receiving her maximum entitlement. Is someone able to break a family agreement through falsely claiming it was a requirement of her benefit, whilst going against their normal access agreement?
Tan 21/07/2018 at 3:00 pm
My partner had a brief affair, the woman said she was on the injection but that was a lie. She never told the midwives and she can’t prove it. Refuses to...she has now been going through csa despite refusing dna tests. Even if it is his, I work and earn our money, I refuse to give her a penny...where would we stand as to paying her? And could we take her to court. I have read if you can prove the woman lied to get pregnant it’s just as bad as rape.
I’ve tried to keep civil but she’s too crazy. I don’t want that kind of person around my children.
Ginger 21/07/2018 at 10:01 am
If my child has started work 3 days a week do I continue to pay maintenance for my child and does his mother have to inform the child benefit team as he is going to full time collage in September
Hope 19/07/2018 at 3:18 pm
My ex had a baby with his now partner who he lives with but have told the child maintenance that she doesn’t so they can claim child maitenance for the new baby which reduces my sons payments what can I do to prove she does live there apart from tell them my son had to give his room up for the new baby so no longer has a bedroom at his fathers house
SeparatedDads Editor 19/07/2018 at 2:21 pm
Your income is not included by CMS. Only your partner's income would be assessed for child maintenance for his child. Therefore, the fact you now have a well-paid job is not relevant.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/07/2018 at 11:11 am
Not if his mother is in receipt of child benefit. When child benefit payments stop, then child maintenance payments do too.
Issy 18/07/2018 at 7:55 pm
The mother of my partners daughter wrote to the CSA in 2008 stating that she no longer wanted payment. Now that the relationship has broken down she is asking for unreasonable amounts of money and threatening to go back to CSA as I now have a well paid job. I have always given money to the child but the requests are getting ridiculous. Can she do this. My daughter is 17 and in further education.
Toff 18/07/2018 at 2:02 pm
My partner has had his children 11 nights this month and is about to start paying child
Maintenance. His ex wife is lying to cms saying he does not have them so will need to pay a substantial amount of money for his four children. How do we prove this? It’s his word against hers so he is seeing a solicitor and applying for a court order. When it’s sorted which we hope it will be will she pay it back? Can she be criminalised for fraud as she’s saying he never has them!?
Steve 18/07/2018 at 5:37 am
My 16 year old son lives with his mother. She took him out of school for his last 2 years of schooling, so he had not been in education for all this time, nor has he taken any exams. He hasn’t even been ‘home schooled’.
She says he is going to College in September where he will study maths and English alongside his sports science course. I don’t even think he will bother going to college every day!

Can I stop my voluntary maintenance payments to his mother in September?
Graystar 16/07/2018 at 9:31 pm
Hi, I have my son 6 nights out of 14 so pay child maintenance.
As part of the court order all holidays have to be split 50/50 so I was wondering if I'm still responsible for child maintenance over the holiday period?
Lisa10 15/07/2018 at 11:47 am
My partners relationship with his ex has completely broken down she doesn't allow him any contact with his son she has completely disregarded the family court order and recently child maintenance payments have stopped. My partner wants to pay for his son but we tried to contact the ex and got falsely accused of harassment we also fear that she will accuse him of not paying. How can we set up payments with the ex not prepared to discuss it?
SeparatedDads Editor 12/07/2018 at 2:01 pm
When a child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first).
SeparatedDads Editor 12/07/2018 at 12:41 pm
Child maintenance coincides with the resident parent's eligibility to receive child benefit. Once child benefit stops, so do child maintenance payments. You can see what is considered as government approved education via which
Tash 10/07/2018 at 3:57 pm
My husbands is paying his ex wife an amount per month.
His daughter has just finished full time education and is 18 but is starting a part time 2 day a week college course in September, my question is will his ex wife still be receiving child maintenance from the government, is this something we can find out?
If she isn't can we then stop paying maintenance and pay it direct to his daughter?
Sar 10/07/2018 at 12:39 pm
Hi. My partner pays his ex-wife for an 18 year old via the CSM Agency. The 18 year old is about to get a full time job. When will the CSM amend the payments for the maintenance? Are you aware of how long it will take. His ex has basically lied to the CSM as my partner's child had no intention of staying in full-time education.
Wizz 09/07/2018 at 12:05 pm
My partner pays a substantial amount of maintenance through cms every month and his son is 5yrs old and he hasn’t seen him since he was 2 month old. His ex won’t allow him to see him he’s tried to contact her asking for acces to his son, tried to organise mediation etc to no avail through his ex being difficult. He’s never missed a payment to her and has no issues paying for his son but wants a relationship with his child, what laws are in place to help dads like my partner who are not able to have access due to his ex. She moved and never told him. She never responds to letters birthday Christmas cards that are sent from the family! I’m just shocked that there’s no support for a dad desperate to see his son but yet money will gladly be taken every month! Something is clearly wrong with the system.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/07/2018 at 11:53 am
Unfortunately, child maintenance is based upon the amount of overnight stays the non-resident parent has the children. However, this is if your ex decides to go through CMS in order to calculate child maintenance payments, you can see more via whichThis will tell you how much you would be expected to pay via CMS. Another route is via a family-based child maintenance arrangement which means you agree between you both what and how you will both contribute to bringing up your children. Many parents choose this option as it is less stressful and costly when you can agree.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/07/2018 at 11:19 am
Your ex is under no obligation to provide anything while your child is in your care.
Skintux 07/07/2018 at 1:12 pm
I am paying child maintenance. I need to know when I have my child for holidays etc. What does my ex need to provide, e.g. clothes, spending money etc.
It's not that I mind paying for my child at all, this is a question from a legal standpoint as my ex is being hugely difficult.
Db 07/07/2018 at 8:23 am
Hi, i have recently separated and considering my options. Whilst the marrage has not worked out i have a very close bond with my two boys. I spend the majority of time with them and they are cared for by me more than my ex. The issue is my ex cannot aford to live alone so to keep things as good as it can be it is looking like i will need to find somewhere else. That is a problem in itself but my question is, by continuing constant care and contact with my boys but they live with the mother even though I do the majority of care, how is child maintenance calculated. If it is done solely on the basis of overnight stay i will be devastated. Are there any exceptions?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/07/2018 at 3:09 pm
Yes, you are still entitled to apply for child maintenance.
Love223 05/07/2018 at 10:51 pm
What happens if I don’t allow my child’s farther to see their child (for valid reasons) eg drugs and he hasn’t taken me to court to see him can I still get child maintence.
RicB Editor 06/07/2018 at 12:50 pm
@Sheppy - yes, but this would have to be done through the courts and is not carried out via CMS. Child maintenance payments still naturally end when the child is 16,18 or 20 (maximum if the child is still studying for A-Levels). I think in such cases the parent can apply to court for ongoing payment, possibly the child too.
Sheppy 05/07/2018 at 11:16 am
I am sorry but the information contained in this post is not correct. Liability to make child maintenance payments do not stop when a child attends university. Refer to
Schedule 1 of the Children Act 1989 paragraphs 1 and 2. If a child is over the age of 18 but remains in full time education e.g. University application can be made for periodical payments.
Eli 03/07/2018 at 4:44 pm
My partner pays his maintenance every month for his 2 children (aged 9 and 14) this was agreed between the 2 parents. We also have one of his children to stay 3 Fridays, 3 Saturday days, 3 Saturday nights & 3 Sunday’s (the other weekend he works) we don’t have the 14 year to stay over night but we do take him out.
The mother is now demanding that we have the 9 year old extra during the school holidays to help her out but won’t help us out if we need a Saturday night or anything to go out. Can she demand this?
SeparatedDads Editor 03/07/2018 at 10:19 am
One of the reason payments are now based on gross earnings is that many non-resident parents were attempting to pay less child maintenance by investing significant amounts of their gross earnings in personal pensions. This was in a bid to bring down the net earnings amount to avoid paying child maintenance. On the gross income scheme, the 'net income' scheme generally created a child support liability of 15%, 20% or 25% of pay after tax and national insurance, based on one, two or three or more children. On the gross income calculation of the same, it is based on an arguably fairer and lower percentage rate of 12, 16, or 19% of gross income.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/07/2018 at 10:09 am
Regardless of whether your ex wife works or not, would not change the amount of child maintenance you will have to pay towards supporting your child/children. Child maintenance is not based upon the resident parent's earnings, but the non-resident parent's earnings.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/07/2018 at 2:09 pm
Yes, you can apply for child maintenance via CMS from your husband if you are living under the same roof, but separated.
Raysun 02/07/2018 at 11:06 am
My children are aged 18 and 14 years. The eldest is finished college now so not technically in education and will be going to uni in September. I still have to pay for her until 1st sept. CSA told me I have to ring them on 1st sept to advise them she has gone to uni, they will not accept you telling them in advance. My payments have gone up again to £400 / MTH and will only reduce by £50 when I stop paying for eldest. My question is since my ex wife is lazy and only works part time can she not be forced to return to work full time? It is really unfair how dad's are treat by CSA only because they have left unhappy marriages but still remain devoted parents. Is there not a rule that the CSA must check that all maintenance paid benefits the child as my ex is living in her own house drives a new car and has several holidays abroad per year.
Yorkshire1977 02/07/2018 at 9:24 am
I think it's awful how the child maintenance is worked out on a gross weekly income it should be done on the net income.How on earth is this fair for example if I'm earning £400 before tax I'm not actually receiving that amount in my bank account.the tax national insurance has got to come out first so in reality I'll be getting £320 in my bank..so why can't the maintenance be calculated on this..I'm not trying to get out of paying for my child I've been paying maintenance without fault for years..But I believe that how these calculations are made are fundamentally wrong.
Nic Editor 02/07/2018 at 10:50 am
@Kaos - I think it's included in the following year's assessment, so it will be. CMS don't miss anything and as it gets the figures from HMRC it will be registered.
Kaos 01/07/2018 at 12:52 pm
Hi,
I'm confused about whether or not overtime and bonuses are included in the calculation of CSA payments. Neither the overtime or bonus is guaranteed and is less than 25% of my gross salary.

I need to work overtime so I can afford a place where my two sons can visit and to drive the long distance to my work each week.

Thanks in advance.
Stepjen 30/06/2018 at 7:20 am
@Laurie I totally understand your position but my problem is it is our children who are suffering as I’m struggling to buy food and clothes for them. I don’t expect or want spousal maintenance I just want him to help with the cost of raising our children. At the moment he is earning a massive wage and living in the house I’m struggling to pay for. He contributes nothing towards the bills, food or the children - surely if he had a moral compass he would see this is not right.
Stepjen 30/06/2018 at 2:35 am
My husband and I are separated however circumstances dictate that for the time being we must live together albeit we live separate lives, separate rooms, we don’t eat together, I do none of his laundry etc. We have separate bank accounts and each get paid into our respective accounts. He was giving me a small amount of child maintenance but is now refusing to give me anything. He works full time and I work part time. He earns almost 3 times what I earn yet I am left to pay all the bills, feed, clothe and keep three children etc. I am really struggling to make ends meet. Does anyone know whether I can apply to the CMS? Technically he’s not absent but he contributes nothing towards the upkeep and maintenance of the children. Thanks in advance.
SeparatedDads Editor 29/06/2018 at 3:03 pm
I am sorry to hear this. You can ask him for child maintenance for your child (if he is earning and paying tax via HMRC) and/or in other circumstances.
SeparatedDads Editor 29/06/2018 at 10:50 am
Child maintenance and child access have no bearing upon each other. All biological non-resident parents are responsible for paying child maintenance for their child regardless of whether they see the child or not. You can see how much you should be paying whichIf the mother of your child refuse access, then you would have to go through the process laid out via whichI hope this helps answer your question.
Teen 29/06/2018 at 7:51 am
After. Abuse. Of. Twenty seven. Years. /. Just. Parted. I’ve. Been. Left. With. Mental. Health. Issues /. Lost. Job of. Thirty. Years. /. He. Still. Pays. Bills. All but. C/ tax. I. Am. On. Minimum Benifit/. Can. I. Ask. Him. For. Maintenance. For. My daughter
SeparatedDads Editor 28/06/2018 at 12:39 pm
Your partner will be assessed on his earnings only.
PeterJ25 28/06/2018 at 3:45 am
Hi.. I'm just wondering if you can help me with something that would help alot..
My ex n myself have a kid but I only found out she was mine about 2-3 months ago.. We spoke agreed on £100 on 28th every month but then she asks for more so I pushed it to as much as I could £180.. I've paid her two times 100 n 180.. But I've only seen my daughter twice and now she's not being speaking to me for past 2 half weeks. The last I seen my daughter was back in May.. N she was saying she'd go to csa but obviously we agreed on payment to save that happening but I'm just wondering should I even be paying her if this has happened not seen my daughter? Cause its leaving skint last two months
H 27/06/2018 at 5:59 pm
My partner pays his ex £100 a week, their gymnastics fees and nursery fees, school trips etc he has them on average 3 nights a week, if they need new clothes/shoes/uniform he pays for all of it. He ex is now demanding more money so he is going to go through CMA, do they take into consideration everything he already pays for or will they just go by his earnings?
SeparatedDads Editor 25/06/2018 at 1:53 pm
Your ex's children are considered a completely separate case from your children. Every non-resident parent by law is deemed responsible for contributing financially to the welfare of their own biological children. This is regardless of what his ex or her current partner earns (as her husband is not deemed financially responsible for her children). Just as your new husband is not deemed as being financially responsible in the eyes of the law for your children. Unfortunately, the parent of your own children died and therefore there is little that can be done here, as is the fact you cannot work due to ill-health. The fact your ex died and you are unable to work makes the situation more tricky given you have six children to support. However, this has nothing to do with your husband's ex and her personal circumstances, they are not relative to you.
SeparatedDads Editor 25/06/2018 at 12:16 pm
On the basic rate of child maintenance payments if you’re paying for one child, you’ll pay 12% of your gross weekly income. For two children, you’ll pay 16%.
gasman1065 24/06/2018 at 10:18 pm
Hi I moved to Cyprus 4 yrs ago and had 2 sons the CSA advised me there was no case and the case was shut as I live in Cyprus
One son is now 20 ( working ) the other son is 17 and at college , if I came back to the U.K. in the next 12 months would there be arrears to pay ? I’ve not been a tax resident in U.K. for 4 yrs now .. thanks
Pauly 24/06/2018 at 8:04 pm
What happens to payment's when you have two children to two ex partners?
Sue 23/06/2018 at 7:54 pm
My husband is financially unable to work full time due to the csa costs. My previous partner passed away and left me with 6 kids to care for.
I’m unable to work due to Heath issues which is frustrating. No where is his csa payments taken into account for housing benefits. There is no way we can afford to live if he pays csa on full wage. We have his boys two days every week. His boys are 7 and 8 so it’s a long road for him. We have no problem to pay to keep his boys but we still have to
Survive with the kids we have. His ex is with a new bloke on high pay so it seems my kids suffer for doing nothing wrong.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/06/2018 at 12:38 pm
Yes, If your ex wife is earning and paying tax and you receive child benefit for your child, then you can claim child maintenance from your ex in order to help support your child.
Carper dan 22/06/2018 at 9:55 am
Hi I pay my wife money for my 3kids but my eldest daughter who is 18 and goes to college lives with me could my ex wife be paying me money for her
SeparatedDads Editor 21/06/2018 at 1:57 pm
If your husband is paying via CMS, child maintenance payments stop when child benefit does, which is generally at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first) when the child leaves approved education or training. as there are variations. It is not up to your husband to decide when he wishes to stop. Therefore, CMS have the right to extract this money. With regards to your own children, they are not the financial responsibility of your husband, but their own biological father. Therefore, this is not taken into consideration by CMS when assessing child maintenance. Your ex partner's case is completely different to your husband's and cannot be compared and needs to be dealt with on an individual basis.
SeparatedDads Editor 21/06/2018 at 12:42 pm
You would not pay child maintenance if your child claimed income support/universal credit. Once child benefit payments stop to the resident payment, then so do child maintenance payments.
Lady luck 20/06/2018 at 1:12 am
My son has turned 18 so I stopped support payments.because I thought that was the right thing to do apparently not bye his mother I was working in my yard she comes stomping in dressed to kill and gives me a whipping and said that I should still be paying because he is still under her roof .your advise please do I still need to pay ?
LucyDee 19/06/2018 at 5:25 pm
My husband has stopped paying for his 18 year old son last month as this is when he’s finished college. Child maintenance are now threatening to take the money out his wages (potentially a lump sum) as he doesn’t see why he has to pay when he’s finished full time ed. I have three kids which he helps look after and apparently this is not taken into account financially? How long does it take for them to get the authority to whip the money out of his wages forcefully? My ex partner has missed about seven payments this year and CSA have done nothing but merely sent him some letters! How does this work???
Lad 19/06/2018 at 5:23 pm
Do i pay child maintenance if my child has a child of her own and claims benfits?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/06/2018 at 12:18 pm
If you are currently the non-resident parent, then you should pay child maintenance to help support the day-to-day care of your child as usual or as per the child maintenance calculator or CMS assessment.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/06/2018 at 2:55 pm
If your son is still in full-time education and his other parent is in receipt of child benefit for him, then you would continue to pay child maintenance.
Dad 1 17/06/2018 at 9:26 pm
Currently starting court proceedings for half custody.
Is it true that there will be no requirement to pay maintenance if I have court ordered half custody.
Harry 17/06/2018 at 8:54 pm
Do i still need to pay child maintenance if my son is 18 and has recently had a child of their own?
Chris 16/06/2018 at 12:15 pm
My partner has outstanding child maintenance dating back to 2016, we've been together since 2015 and I have 3 children and one due in less than a week he was unaware of the arrears as the letters were all going to previous address and is unable to contact the mother
How would this affect what he has to pay to his ex partner
SeparatedDads Editor 14/06/2018 at 9:40 am
Your ex may be entitled to the flat rate of £7.00 per week if you are in receipt of benefits.
col 13/06/2018 at 4:20 pm
Is my wife entitled to child maintenance as I am on JSA.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/06/2018 at 11:25 am
Child maintenance is based on a percentage of earnings. If your friend only receives £30 per month, then the child's non-resident parent must be earning a lower income.
Pablo 11/06/2018 at 11:55 am
The entire set up is flawed I have a decent relationship with my ex after our marriage broke down my kids stay over two nights a week I would have them more but have to work 5 days so I can have a house for them to stay over in and earn enough to pay bills maintenance etc but I also pick them up from school three days a week feed them take them to and from kickboxing etc . But my friend only gets £30 a month from her ex he has nothing to do with their child whatsoever just shows how flawed the system is
Nightwolf 08/06/2018 at 1:41 pm
Hi cms have made a mistake and now has backdated the payments how are they allowed to do this it wasn’t my fault and they also said the wouldn’t backdate aswell when changes where made not only that there using 2016-17 p60 cause the 2017-18 p60 wasn’t available Iv since gave them the p60 but aren’t willing to change things is there anything I can do cause the payments are going to cause me to struggle to pay them and won’t be able to afford it for them to collect the money as it adds even more money to the payments
SeparatedDads Editor 08/06/2018 at 12:59 pm
The two cases are completely separate. Also, it is not about you and your ex's disagreements, it's about the non-resident parent being financially responsible by law to help support their child. If your ex was not paying tax, then HMRC could not legally collect child maintenance. The only recourse in situations such as this is to inform HMRC that someone is working illegally.
papa bear 06/06/2018 at 8:50 pm
@mamma smurf. i am in the same boat my daughter didn't live with me, until she was 14 I didnt pay child support because of the mothers (guilt for affairs) .so yeah when She come to live with me I made her pay me child support Its only fair money doesn't grow on trees .plus its a good wake up call for her.pay a man ,yeah pay a man its 2018 baby and I am not a old shearer that has to beat his chest for women or show how big is wallet is .I don't need to I just smile and nex;t thing you no they are cooking Bacon and eggs for me at breakfast wink. And for my daughter To trying play mummy to her .then we go spent that child support money like there is no tomorrow .
Mama Smurf 06/06/2018 at 7:05 pm
I raised my daughter for 12 years until last year when she decided she wants to live with her dad. Being self employed, although working, he dodge CSA payments her whole life by working cash in hand jobs or going on benefits but still working.. When CMO took over, he paid about a years maintenance before she left me.
Now the CMO are stating that because I earn legally , I need to pay 12% of my wage to him .....despite him dodging paying me .
Why is this not calculated in the payments . It seems so unfair that I have to pay a man for my daughter when he dodge paying me but now wants me to suffer financially .!
SeparatedDads Editor 05/06/2018 at 3:02 pm
Only overnight stays are considered via CMS. You can see more regarding how child maintenance is paid via which
SS 04/06/2018 at 8:15 pm
Hi
I would love to have my son 50% of the time but my ex won't let me so on average I have him 14 nights a month and she has him 16 but I also have him a couple of days (she won't let me overnight them days) but according to cms I still have to pay her £200 a month which seems crazy due to the fact it's pretty much 50/50.
Is this right as all online calculators only take into consideration nights!
SeparatedDads Editor 01/06/2018 at 2:16 pm
When your child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). If you are paying via CMS, then payments will stop automatically when child benefit does.
none 28/05/2018 at 3:58 pm
Hi,
I have a daughter who is now 18 and leaving school in June 2018. I have paid my monthly child maintenance payments continuously over the years even though I have not seen my daughter for numerous years.
I understand my daughter is allegedly going to college, what are my rights.
I understand that I can stop paying my ex the monthly child maintenance now that my daughter has left school.
John Doe 27/05/2018 at 8:50 am
Cms are demanding more than I can pay after I have paid rent etc. Is there anything I can do. My ex is also.spreading rumours that I'm a pedofile which is untrue what can be done about this. She is using this an excuse to stop contact between me and my son so she can play happy family with her new boyfriend. Is there anyway I can get help with the court fees I need so I can get a child arrangements order? I work full time and have two jobs but I really can't afford the court fees.
BYF Editor 25/05/2018 at 12:36 pm
@Kex - On the basic rate, if your ex is paying for one child, you’ll pay 12% of your gross weekly income, two 16% and three 19%, it is divided between the kids equally.
JD 24/05/2018 at 3:58 pm
My daughter decided she did not want to speak to me three years ago and cut all ties, I have still made my payments ( a private agreement). I have been told now she starts uni in September. What are my options regarding payments because it seems I have the option then to stop paying? This issue seems a bit clouded?
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2018 at 1:53 pm
Yours is a bit of a tricky question, in that it is rare that a court will change a living arrangement unless absolutely necessary. Certainly, money would not factor in any court decision regarding where the children should reside. In order for the court to change an arrangement, then you would have to prove your ex is unfit to look after the children.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2018 at 9:13 am
No. Anything you pay above and beyond child maintenance is at your own discretion. Child maintenance is paid by the non-resident parent to help support the child when they are living under the roof of the primary carer. Most NRP's buy clothes/toys etc for the child for when the child spends time with them.
Kez 24/05/2018 at 6:57 am
Hi does the amount of maintanace change if the father has 2 children by one woman and one with another. My ex has 3 kids but only 2 love together and Im mum to his 2 yr old son.
Dbi 23/05/2018 at 12:42 pm
Hi, if Ias a father buying toys, clothes for kids every week, can it be deducted from maintenance?
Sparkius 22/05/2018 at 5:01 pm
My ex-wife and I have been divorced for 10 years and have four children.

During the 10 years I have my children overnight on alternate weekends (Fri - Mon) and every Wednesday night. Recently my three daughters asked to also stay over on Tuesday evenings, which they now do each week.

This means that they spend exactly the same number of nights with me, as they do with their mum.

I'm pleased to say that the girls have a decent life with each parent buying the same amount of clothes, gadgets etc at each home.

I recently informed the Child Maintenance Bureau of the change in circumstances, and have been told that I must continue to pay their mum support each month.

The annual figure is approx £1500 which is a month's money for me. As we both spend the same amount on the children each money and look after them for the same amount of time, this seems very unfair?

Over the past five years, the children have had a number of problems at their mum's house including a step-dad who hangs around their bedrooms, threats of suicide from mum when they suggested spending more time with me, physical abuse on my son (now 18) from step-dad.

All of the incidents have been logged with the police and social services, and I am now wondering if I should pursue a residency order?

Can anyone give me any advice on the process and the potential pitfalls, please?
SeparatedDads Editor 22/05/2018 at 2:24 pm
When your child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). Child maintenance falls in line with when child benefit stops, , which should tell you all you need to know.
Si 22/05/2018 at 12:00 pm
Hi - I have 3 children and have been divorced for 3 years. I have a court order that states that I have to pay a set amount every month which was based calculated using CMS calculator formula. This was set using an average of 52 - 103 overnight stays / year. My eldest daughter, now 12, comes and goes as she pleases and this is under the 52 night threshold. My two sons still stay within the 52-103 threshold. If my ex went through the CMS would they make me pay more money in total due to my daughter not staying as much, or would they keep me at the 52-103 threshold for all three to allow for flexibility? If they recalculated how would they do this? I don't want to open a case with CMS I just want to understand potential financial impacts. Many thanks
David 22/05/2018 at 10:19 am
I have a son who turned 18 in March, I have not seen him since he was 3 years old and she moved away to France, before returning to England when he was eight.
I do have parental responsibility for my son, and have always paid an agreed monthly amount (so nothing through the csa).
I have been told he is currently doing his A Levels and then looking at doing university for 3 years from this September (although have no proof of that) maybe extending to 5 years if he does a masters.
I have 2 children with my current partner who are 5 and 5 months.
Do I stop payments this August when he completes his 2 year of A levels or do I have to continue paying until he’s 21 or potentially 23 when he finishes all education?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 21/05/2018 at 3:14 pm
No, you will continue to pay for your two children and your ex's ex, will pay to help support his child.
Jo Editor 21/05/2018 at 12:37 pm
@Hr - You do not have to pay any child maintenance for your stepson. Your ex is a very lucky lady, especially if you're paying child maintenance and sharing costs and if her other ex pays towards his son. She must have quite an income coming in! Ring CMS up and tell them, it's quite simple, especially if the other father is paying!
Hr 20/05/2018 at 8:53 pm
Hi I have a biological daughter (6yr) and a Step son (14yr). I am divorced dad 37 yr old and live alone.

I don't have parental responsibilities or rights for my step son, but I have always paid for all his expenses and upbringing since he was 2.5 years old. (During marriage and after divorce)

When we separated 5 years ago, I verbally agreed to pay for both of kids child maintenance with a calculation of 1 night a week shared care. It worked out to about 75 a week (325 a month) using child maintenance Calc on gov.uk website.

She receives income support and child benefits and I don't receive any.

My ex receives the child maintenance from her older partner for my step son too.

Although the CM calculation was done (family agreement) on basis of both kids spending 1 night a week with me, I have made sure that both of us parents provide 42%-58% (specifically 3 nights with me, 4 nights with her and holidays split exactly equally), care for kids.

Recently my ex needs to travel a lot. So I have been looking after kids for more than 3 nights a week.

So for the duration of 2018 it's been exactly equal shared care.

We also pay all bills that concern kids equally.
Shopping is done equally too at her home and at my home, whereever kids are and whatever they need is bought without worrying about any calculations (shoes, travel, clothing, social, entertainment, toys etc.)


I believe (after reading stuff online) that I don't need to pay anything for my step son.

I may or may not need to pay CM for my daughter, however I am not sure how to approach the situation.

Could you please give me an indication as to whether I need to pay any CM or not. And in either case how do I get it confirmed by CMS officially.
Rumber 19/05/2018 at 1:09 pm
Hi, I split with my ex 5 years ago and have 2 children between us. I have always paid my 20% child maintenance to her. My ex has had another baby and is no longer with the father. Her baby is 13 months old. My ex doesn’t work and claims benefits. Does my 20% child maintenance rate get reduced as my ex is claiming maintenance and benefits for her new child?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 18/05/2018 at 12:51 pm
Unfortunately, every biological non-resident parent has to pay to help support their child whether the non-resident parent sees the child or not.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/05/2018 at 12:26 pm
Child maintenance officially stops when the eligibility to claim child benefit stops, you can see more via whichChild benefit is notified when a child continues in education.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/05/2018 at 11:48 am
Unfortunately, only overnight stays are considered. , which will give you more information.
Mrs joanne Young 18/05/2018 at 9:00 am
My husband is still paying for his 18 year old daughter who he met once at 8 months.
His x wife threw him out and didnt tell him she was pregnant.
He pays for her hes not on the birth certificate and we are left in hardship presently.
Is there any way getting this cut or stopped.
A 17/05/2018 at 8:35 pm
I’m asking on behalf of a friend . He has been paying maintenance through csa and hasn’t seen his kids for over 6 years. His eldest is now 16 and the mother is closing she’s staying on at school but he doesn’t believe this. Where does he stand ? I would have guessed that the mother would have to supply proof in order to get these payments . But instead they have gave him a small discount each month on the word of the mother. Surely he must have some say? Thank you
Deano 17/05/2018 at 5:55 pm
Hi

Been separated for 18 months now, we agreed on an amount per month. I pick them up from home twice a week they come for tea and stay till around 9pm. They stay every other Friday and Saturday and i take them away to visit family in Scotland a few times a year for at least 3/4 nights. Since the mother has found out I'm having a baby with my new partner she's gone back to maintence and wants alot more money from me. Do they consider all the times the kids are with me? As in picking them up and spending time during the week also trips away etc....the letter I got said I've to pay £350 per month will that go down if call them? Cheers!
SeparatedDads Editor 17/05/2018 at 11:36 am
By law, it is your son's father who is responsible for paying child maintenance for your son (not your partner). Therefore, if you wish to claim child maintenance from your ex, you are entitled to
geraldine Grego 16/05/2018 at 6:54 pm
hi, iv got a son who sees his dad everytime his dad is available (when hes off work) i have a partner who supports me and my child. does the dad still have to pay maintenance even though me and partner both support my son?
Tony 15/05/2018 at 11:32 am
Hello i have my daughter overnight from 6pm Friday evening after I finish work until Sunday where I drop her back to her mum at 4pm. I am looking at getting 50/50 care of my daughter so picking her up Thursday after work at 6pm put her in nursery on Friday while I work then drop her home Sunday at 4pm. Firstly would the court let me do this and secondly would my maintenance payments be adjusted.
Thank you
MattD Editor 15/05/2018 at 3:48 pm
@Adam - No, there is nothing you can do as the kids are still officially in your ex's care.
Adam 15/05/2018 at 9:47 am
I have my children 2 nights a week and my ex wife’s dumps my kids with her parents 2 nights a week so she only has them 3 nights and I have to pay maintenance on the full 5 days is this right is there anything I can do about this ?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/05/2018 at 3:45 pm
Yes, you would still have to pay child maintenance if your son will be going into government approved education listed via whichThis includes school holidays, regardless of whether he is working full-time or not.
SeparatedDads Editor 14/05/2018 at 11:12 am
Child maintenance and child access have no bearing on each other. By law, a non-resident parent is considered responsible for paying to help support their children whether they have access/see their children or not. If you stop paying towards your children's upkeep via CMS, you will be in arrears and be ordered to backdate pay. , which will tell you what you need to do with regards to applying for access to see your kids.
Broony 14/05/2018 at 9:59 am
Jonno I had similar experience but court sees them as separate issues, you still have to pay even though you aren't getting to see them, terrible i know, something that i feel should be changed. That is in Scotland anyway.
Broony 14/05/2018 at 9:56 am
Hi there my son is 16 and has left school, he is applying for college and for part time work during the summer holidays until he starts college, I think it is an national certificate (nc) do I still need to pay child maintenance? Any advice is greatly appreciated cheers.
Jonno 13/05/2018 at 12:23 pm
I’ve always paid for my 2 boys howeve I’ve been prevented from seeing and speaking to them for 18 months. Where do I stand in reference withholding no payment until I see them. So unfair
SeparatedDads Editor 11/05/2018 at 11:00 am
If your daughter takes up am paid apprenticeship then child maintenance would stop. You can see more via whichwhich shows approved courses where child maintenance would continue. If your daughter is finishing a level 3 BTEC, then it is unlikely child maintenance would continue once she has completed this course.
dave 10/05/2018 at 11:25 am
hiya.. after some guidance. my daughter 17 .. 18 in july finishing a btec lvl 3 course for health care in june (july offically) . currently lives with her mum abt 100mls away I routinely pay her maintenace every month ( via dd) as well as paying her mobile and the travel to see her as well as pocket money n odds n sods.. Her mum works full time.. i cant confirm wither she gets child benefits..
My daughter has no idea what to do after her course n is being pushed to an apprentiship by mother..but i feel my daughter wants to work.. SO.
assuming she decides to get a part time less or more than 25 hrs a wk job..would she still be entitled to maitenance payments.
or is that dependant on child benefits...
if i think my ex shouldnt be getting child benefits am i allowed to advise the goverment ..as the ex i believe will. simply tell.me what she wants me to know not what i need to know.
what if she does an apprentiship ive read a guaranteed job one means her child benefits stop as does maintenace.
thanks in advise.
Danp 07/05/2018 at 7:04 pm
I am resident parent and separated - soon to be divorced. My ex gets more in benefits weekly than i earn through a full-time job as she receives dla and various other benefits. Would she still only have to pay the standard £7/week or would her income be assessed fully before a decision is made?
SeparatedDads Editor 03/05/2018 at 2:31 pm
Your earnings do not count. Only the earnings of the biological non-resident parent are taken into consideration when assessing child maintenance.
NCP 03/05/2018 at 10:15 am
I recently married a man who has four children from a previous relationship, we have a baby on the way. Given I earn more than him we have decided financially it makes sense that he is a stay at home dad given the cost of childcare.
Whilst we believe that it’s important that we still provide for his children, will my earnings be taken into account in regards to the payments made for his children? I can’t seem to find an answer on this topic.
Bothered 01/05/2018 at 3:19 pm
Childrens dad pay set amount for 3 children, he's changed jobs. If on lower wage and hasn't informed csa and has over paid would I owe him money back if proven to be on lower wage?
SeparatedDads Editor 01/05/2018 at 12:00 pm
Every biological parent is by law required to pay towards the day-to-day upkeep of their child regardless of whether they see the child or not. There is no reduced obligation. Paying parents on the basic rate pay a uniform 12% of their salary if they have one child.
A-R 30/04/2018 at 1:23 pm
Hi everyone, I’m a paying parent as the result of a one night stand. I have a daughter living with me and I’m due to get married. I’ve never had any involvement in the child’s life and she lives with her mother and acting father.. the mother won’t let me sign my rights off as she would not receive money. Is there any reduced obligation I can apply for ? Many thanks.
missy 30/04/2018 at 9:28 am
hi! My fiance is a paying parent to his ex. We have a 4 month old baby. CSA won't accept his birth certificate or NHS number as proof. They will only accept child benefit number which we don't have yet. I'm so annoyed that a birth certificate is not good enough. Or are they having us on!?
SeparatedDads Editor 27/04/2018 at 11:30 am
Your only recourse if to suggest mediation to your ex in order to try to resolve this issue regarding why your child does not wish to come to see you. If your ex refuses to attend mediation, you would have to apply to court for a child arrangement order, As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the child in question. The court will always put the child’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order.
Dedicateddad 26/04/2018 at 8:20 pm
I have two kids. One from an ex who I am resident parent of, she pays no maintenance as on benefits. I have another child but am splitting up from his mum. If I lose at court and she becomes resident parent does my first child who lives with me effect payments I'll have to make?
SeparatedDads Editor 26/04/2018 at 1:00 pm
Child maintenance and child contact have no relevance to each other. Every non-resident parent has to pay towards the day-to-day upkeep of their child whether they see the child or not. If the NRP wishes to see their child, then they have the option to apply through court for access.
Brad 24/04/2018 at 8:14 pm
Hi, I had a one night stand with a girl a few years back. I am not on the birth certificate, I have no contact or no way of contact as I do not know location or contact details. I have requested details through the CSA but she only sends bank details and nothing else. I have a son with my wife (who works part time) so I support both. Do I still have to pay maintenence to a child I have never met and when the mother refuses me any parental rights? Regards
SeparatedDads Editor 24/04/2018 at 11:26 am
CMS can only change the annual income figure it uses to make a child maintenance decision if the paying parent provides proof that their gross income is at least 25 percent different to the latest available income figure it holds. The figure your partner currently earns will be reflected in the next annual review.
lol 23/04/2018 at 5:46 pm
My partner lost his job resently . Luckily has now got bk in to work but it’s less that he currently earned. Meaning after his out goings only left with £26 a wk to live on.
We have done the online child maintenance calculator which states based on his new wage would be only £58 a week child maintenance but currently pay £98 a week. He has called to get looked in to and reduced. But told this would not change as it’s not a big enough change. Is this the case how can he possibly life on this . Once he puts petrol in his car to go to work nothing let at all . Surly this isn’t right ????
SeparatedDads Editor 20/04/2018 at 3:01 pm
Child maintenance payments stop at the same time that child benefit eligibility does.
SeparatedDads Editor 20/04/2018 at 2:00 pm
Only overnight stays are calculated via CMS. If you look after your child throughout the day then this would be considered to be a voluntary arrangement. If you usually have a family-based child maintenance arrangement, then you would negotiate between you both what you agree is fair.
hh 20/04/2018 at 3:22 am
My payments for my kid should. Of stopped. When. There claim dwp.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/04/2018 at 3:48 pm
Yes. You would still pay child maintenance if you are considered the non-resident parent.
Nash 19/04/2018 at 2:23 pm
If I have my daughter for 3 nights do I still pay maintenance.. @the moment I'm paying £42.20 a week..
SeparatedDads Editor 19/04/2018 at 11:21 am
Much depends upon whether you have a family-based arrangement or one via CMS. If the payments are arranged via CMS, then they are averaged out over the year meaning you would receive money regardless of whether your ex takes the children on holiday. If you have a family-based arrangement, then you would agree between you both. However, there is no recourse to claim arrears via a family-based arrangement - whereas there is via a CMS organised one.
Littlegi100 18/04/2018 at 6:02 am
I have the children every night. He took them on holiday for 1 week and reduced my maintenance payments by £100. Can he do this?
SeparatedDads Editor 17/04/2018 at 12:13 pm
When your child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first)
BLACKMALE 16/04/2018 at 8:57 pm
hi i am just seeking clarification
i currently pay through the cms for my 19yr old. (20 in october)
her college course finishes end of may 2018
so do my payments officially stop
a. at the end of may (ie the end of her course, according to your paragraph above or
b.at the end of august (ie just prior to the beginning of the 'new' college term, according to the cms
kind regards
AG.
SeparatedDads Editor 13/04/2018 at 10:16 am
You can see more about how child maintenance is paid via whichwhich should help answer your question.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/04/2018 at 3:15 pm
You can see more via whichwhich should help answer your question.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/04/2018 at 11:21 am
If you cannot resolve issue via CMS directly, then you may have an option to take the matter to court. However, this will cost and only if you can prove you have a strong case should you take this route. Therefore, in order to explore your options you may wish to seek legal advice.
Star 12/04/2018 at 9:28 am
My daughter is has epilepsy so is classed as having learning difficulties and is unable to access work or higher education. She has an EHCP which covers her until 25, does csa payments stop at 20 years old?
mummamia 12/04/2018 at 7:44 am
My Ex husband has been paying CM which he dropped in line with regs when he had another baby. However he has now split from the mother of this new child and she is now applying for maintenance. My question is, will maintenance for our son be reduced again please? (sorry sounds very mercenary but I really need to know)
Jo 11/04/2018 at 4:40 pm
My children’s father is in a high flying career, he has always been very good at getting his own way to any extent. lives in a big new house and both he and his wife have big expensive cars, he also owns a property abroad. I am in a rental property doing my best to raise my children by myself. I feel I have been let down way by the system. I went to CMS in Nov for help to retrieve child maintenance for my 2 children. In Feb their father told me I wouldn’t receive another penny, and he got his wish. A payment schedule was sent to me showing how much he should be paying me. He had been underpaying me by hundreds per month. He had always underpaid but He stopped paying anything. I asked for it to go to collect & Pay and was told it was not it in his best interests for this to happen or the childrens. I have had to borrow money to keep a roof over our heads. Even though he had underpaid by over £1,000 from the time I opened the case, I was told he no longer had to make up the shortfall, a miscalculation had occurred, I tried to explain but no one really listened to me. Again acting in his best interests. He hasn’t paid me since the end of January, he is still working (I’ve called his work landline) he works in a Big national organisation, and doing a really good job of beating the system), I feel the system has failed me. I feel they have looked after his needs and let myself and the children down.
Cakie 10/04/2018 at 7:18 pm
Do I pay more if I don't have my kids staying with me less then 2 days a week
SeparatedDads Editor 10/04/2018 at 3:32 pm
Child maintenance and child access are not connected. Therefore, your daughter would have to keep to the court order. Child maintenance is a different issue and is not to be confused. Child access is deemed not to be dependent on money. If it was, some parents would be holding their children to financial ransom which would be considered to be unfair on the child. If your daughter's ex feels the amount he is paying has been miscalculated, then he has every right to dispute this. However, if it is proved that the amount is indeed correct, then he will have to pay the amount missed in arrears.
csa 10/04/2018 at 9:44 am
Hi, my daughters partner has come back into his sons life after 4 years of never being there and has gone to court for access this has been granted and she has never opposed this but she has now gone to csa for payments as he refused to give her any money they have said he has to pay a certain amount each week he says he isnt paying it as its too much can he dispute this or if the csa has said this is what he has to pay does he have to pay it by law he somehow thinks he can do what he likes and still see his son.
Borny007 06/04/2018 at 6:00 pm
Hi, we separated, child stayed with my ex. My question is, five days a week I'm there in her house to look after my son for 5-6 hours while she's working, how do I calculate how much child maintenance have to pay? Is these hours means any reduction, like the overnight stay?
Why I calculate with gross payment, and pay after net payment?
Regards
Terri 05/04/2018 at 9:21 pm
Hi can someone help please if my sons farther is in a relationship with someone who has two kids that are not his and there not married does how much maintenance he pays me will that be affected
SeparatedDads Editor 05/04/2018 at 2:56 pm
Child maintenance is based on earnings and taxable income assessed via HMRC. If the paying parent has less income, then he will be assessed on the earnings and over a period of time the child maintenance payment would reduce accordingly.
Cali 04/04/2018 at 6:45 pm
My daughters ex partner pays monthly maintenance to her for his two sons. He works 5 days a week but has decided he now wants to only work four. It’s his decision can he reduce her maintenance.
He has a new son with a new partner.
M 29/03/2018 at 3:43 pm
In your article above, under the section "SHARED CARE", you cite that:

"If you share care equally, neither of you has to pay maintenance to each other."

How can this be so, when the CMS calculator / guidance figures suggest that the paying parent should still contribute a substantial weekly amount even when they have the children "approximately 3 nights a week" or "more than 3 nights week"??

Surely being responsible for your children for this amount of time per week makes you a Shared Carer? Or possibly even the Primary Carer??

I have my two children for, on average, 3 nights a week. So I fail to understand how the CMS can determine i pay a large amount to my ex, when your article clearly suggests that, based on these numbers, I am a shared carer.

How do you and the CMS define the word "equal"?

Please help!!
SeparatedDads Editor 29/03/2018 at 10:25 am
The claims are treated separately and much depends upon the reasons why CMS cannot extract the payments from your ex. In the case of her claiming from you may be more straightforward in terms of your ability and eligibility to pay. You would have to take this up with CMS directly.
Mike 28/03/2018 at 1:13 pm
I had custody of 2 daughters for the last 10yrs. In that time, and up to date my ex wife is in child maintenence arrears to the tune of just over £13,000 of which i am still owed. My daughters (now 14 and 13) decided they want to live with her for various reasons, and she is now making demands for child support despite being in arrears. How can this be so?
Aidansmum 27/03/2018 at 11:18 pm
My ex-husband is self-employed and earns more money than me. Our four year old lives with me. I have asked him to pay maintenance for his son and he's refused. He gets paid cash in hand so I can't go to the CSA, what can I do? I pay for everything for our son.
SeparatedDads Editor 27/03/2018 at 2:08 pm
Either parent should tell the Child Maintenance Service or CSA if the paying parent’s income increases or decreases by: 25% or more for Child Maintenance Service cases 5% or more for CSA cases which began after 3 March 2003, You are not obliged to pay above and beyond child maintenance payments. If you do, it is at your discretion. What your ex owns and the value of her assets are deemed not relevant. Child maintenance payments are based purely on the paying parent's income, not the receiving parent's income or assets.
SeparatedDads Editor 27/03/2018 at 11:58 am
By law, as the biological father, your husband still has to pay towards the day-to-day upkeep of his daughter regardless of whether he sees her or not. His ex can if she chooses approach CMS if he refuses to pay child maintenance.
steve 27/03/2018 at 9:43 am
I have been divorced for 10 years never missed a maintained payment have increased it over time. I have provided cash and other payments on top including paying for car and home repairs to help my ex out I pay for my 16 yr old daughter school trips clubs and so on. My ex now states she can seek an adjustment as I now earn more. She has made a house purchase of grade 2 listed building and brags about the equity however is now facing hard tines due work and whatever. Is it true that she can simply ask for more?
H8686h 26/03/2018 at 6:37 pm
Hi my husband signed over PR nearly a year ago now as his daughter was going to be adopted by the step father. Now we have been informed that she doesnt want the adoption to go ahead and is happy with PR. MY husband and his ex now dont go through CSA but have an agreement between them. My question is does he still have to pay and can she start csa up? The child is nearly 16. Im not sure where we stand. His daughter doesnt want anything to do with him and the ex even said as the kids dont want to see him he shouldnt pay. Any advice would be greatly received as its just such a stressful situation
titch 25/03/2018 at 12:26 am
hi my ex partner has been claimed child maintenance but our daughter has been taken into care over a year ago and she is still claiming and as you have to claim every year she has put in another claim, do I still have to pay maintenance as they are in government care and can I get it backdated too
SeparatedDads Editor 22/03/2018 at 2:30 pm
You would have to take this matter up with CMS directly.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/03/2018 at 11:40 am
Child maintenance (when assessed by CMS) is based solely upon earnings and the amount of tax paid via HMRC. If your son is studying and only working part-time, only his taxed income will be assessed and a portion of his income paid towards child maintenance (much depends upon how much this income is). You can see more regarding how this is worked out via whichYour son can also use the child maintenance calculator to see how he would pay if his income was assessed by CMS, He would not pay child maintenance on his university loan or grants. If your son decides upon arranging to pay child maintenance through a family-based arrangement which is in agreement with the mother of his child, then he can pay by whatever means he likes (including through you).
Busjedwa 21/03/2018 at 10:15 pm
I separated and divorced my wife 6 years ago. We went through solicitors and agreed a payment of £284 per month for each of our three children until they turned 19. I see my boys and they have stayed with me two nights a week since. My ex’s phoned me late January and said the element two, twins of 18 and a half would have to move out of her home and agreed that I could give them what I wouldn’t be giving her to financially help them to get a rented place. I asked her to be specific to state how much she is expecting to receive but she was non commit all other than stating the agreement we have in place. Subsequently I promised to give the eldest two 500 a month, until one sons wages increase in September and then it would go to 250 whilst my other son is in the local university. I set the payment up to the ex wife for 300 a month for my remaining at home 13 year old son. She is now telling me she will go through a solicitor as she wants more money. My circumstances have changed since the agreement. She got the house, I got nothing but family debt. I am now self employed so my eligible salary is less predictable, especially going forwards. I have tried to talk to her this evening but she won’t discuss the matter with me. What advice can you give me?
Skip 21/03/2018 at 2:49 pm
I am a grandparent to a 6 month old child.
My sone has recently separated from his partner. My son is a university student and has very little income.
He has a part time job which helps him out financially.
However, now his estranged partner is demanding that he pays child support.
I help my son out every week by way of standing order from my bank account.
I have said I will redirect that payment direct to his estranged partner to the amount she has specified.
Is this allowable in child support law.
Sam 20/03/2018 at 10:28 pm
My csa for one child has just transferred to the new system .There calculations seem to ignore the fact that my other child my daughter lives with me permanently I get child benefit for her .surely I should get a deduction for this .I'm now worried I might of overpaid for years my csa case ended 23 rd of feb Is there anyways I can check back that they included my child who has always lived with me because it looks like i've being overpaying by 15 to 20 pounds for months.
SeparatedDads Editor 20/03/2018 at 12:10 pm
If your ex officially adopted his stepchild, then he would be required to pay child maintenance for your child. However, if no adoption took place, then the child's biological father would be deemed responsible.
Kayls 19/03/2018 at 9:23 pm
Hi I have two children my ex took on my eldest when he was 6 weeks old. We went on to change his name by deedpole. Now we aren't together and everything is a nightmare as with most separated parents. My question being is should my ex pay for the first child as well as his biological child ?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2018 at 3:17 pm
Yes, child maintenance would remain on the same payment schedule as you have presumably always paid, across the year.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2018 at 12:56 pm
Only the non-resident's parents are calculated when assessing child maintenance. The earnings of the resident parent are not considered.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2018 at 12:07 pm
The Scottish system can differ from the English, so you would have to speak directly to CMS regarding this. You can see more via whichwhich will tell you what is classed as government approved education.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2018 at 9:53 am
You personally do not need to prove your ex is the father. You can contact CMS directly and CMS will contact the father on your behalf. If your son's father denies he is the father, it is up to him to attempt to prove he is not. In the meantime, he will be required to pay child maintenance from the time you declare him as the father, Therefore, if your ex refuses to have a conversation regarding this matter, then getting in touch with CMS directly should be your first priority, You can only claim child maintenance from the time you register the father with CMS, you cannot get back pay for the nine years you didn't register his name. I hope this helps.
Joelyn28 18/03/2018 at 12:19 pm
I have a 9 year old son, his father has refused to believe that my son is his since I was pregnant! How can I go about csa, I've coped this long but my son has metal heath problems and I've had to give up work to be home with him so money's really tight, not just about money though I want to prove he is his father, I've contacted him many times but he just ignores me
What do I do ?
Kev 17/03/2018 at 6:09 pm
Hi i have a 13 year old daughter who i dont have contact with ..im paying csa out of my benefits if i get a job and my wifes gets a job would csa calculate both our income together and decide how.much we need to pay or will they just take csa out of my earnings ..
booboo 17/03/2018 at 2:28 pm
I live in Scotland my daughter is 16 and left school in December she has joined a council funded activity agreement no one can seem to give a straight answer as to when I stop paying maintaince I've been told it's only paid for first 20 weeks and I've been told I pay it up until she leaves... don't speak to the other partner ... please help
D 16/03/2018 at 5:39 pm
My twins are about to leave school they are 16 if they go to college do I pay money during holidays ie summer break?.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/03/2018 at 2:42 pm
You would pay child maintenance until child benefit payments stop
SeparatedDads Editor 16/03/2018 at 11:05 am
Firstly, child maintenance and child access are not connected. Every non-resident parent has to pay towards the day-to-day financial support of their child, regardless of what the other person earns (i.e whether they earn nothing or whether they earn substantially). When a stepparent adopts their partner’s child it ends the legal relationship between that child and their other natural parent. This would mean your fiance would no longer be financially responsible and would not be able to claim access through the courts, However, it is likely that prior to adoption, social services would have contacted your fiance. Likewise, his ex would have been informed that she could no longer claim child maintenance. If your fiance's son has not been adopted, then he has every right to apply for access through the courts. There is no excuse for one parent to make a situation 'impossible' - where this occurs, the court will decide on that parent's behalf. The courts do want non-resident parents to have contact with their children and will try to make this possible where it can. At any point, your finace could have ignored her refusal and pressed ahead to apply to court. If your fiance cannot afford legal fees, he can self-litigate which brings the cost of applying for access down substantially. Therefore, if your fiance wishes to have a relationship with his child, he should make inroads to apply to court. Our Separated Dads forum can help him with advice
Eb 15/03/2018 at 3:41 pm
My fiance has an 8 year old son who he's never seen. The mother refused to put him on the birth certificate and he has nothing to do with the child. DNA proved he is the father and he has been paying child maintenance. The mother is living and engaged to another man who she has a child with - they've been together for years. My fiance has reason to believe that his son has been adopted by the other man and has told CSA this. They haven't looked in to it and now say he has to pay more each month because he did some over time at work. Its nearly £100 more than original! He has no access to his son, his over time isn't guaranteed and she's intentionally unemployed whilst he's paying and her fella is paying. What can my fiance do? We both feel its incredibly unfair and ridiculous to pay over £300 a month for a child he's never seen! He would love to see him and it deeply upsets him that he's not a part of his life, due to her making it so difficult and practically impossible. She even fully admitted that she wanted to have a child so she doesn't have to work!
SeparatedDads Editor 15/03/2018 at 3:05 pm
If a child wishes to leave school aged 16, they must do one of the following until they are 18; stay in full-time education, for example at a college, start an apprenticeship or traineeship or spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training. Some form of education and/or training is now compulsary for children aged 16-18.
Brian 14/03/2018 at 5:10 pm
My son has left school and went to college. He has now dropped out. Should I still be paying child maintenance?
jamesey 13/03/2018 at 5:31 pm
my son leaves school in September, he is going to apply for a college course as further education, however this is down to his mother manipulation.
Who wants to lose £300 a month in payment she sure doesnt and she is doing her best to manipulate and send to college rather than be owning his own money.

Any 16 year old person would tell you if they had the chance of earning their own money to spend as they see fit that is what they would do.

Apart from just carrying on paying maintancence what else may i do
Flossy 12/03/2018 at 10:20 pm
Hi there I need a bit of advice for me brother.My question if my brothers son leaves home to live with my ex partner (who is not his blood relative) Is he liable for child maintenance as he has been offered home with his dad and mum but turned them down?Thank you for your help.Kind Regards Anna
SeparatedDads Editor 12/03/2018 at 2:41 pm
CMS would not take the matter of the grandparents being involved into consideration. Child maintenance is based on earnings and overnight stays with you
SeparatedDads Editor 12/03/2018 at 9:46 am
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what the child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then child maintenance payments will continue until the child finishes the course or until they turn 20. As child maintenance payments fall in line with when child benefit payments stops, you can see more via which
mignon 11/03/2018 at 12:39 pm
i am writing on behalf of my son who is sucicidal he pays 93 pound week for his 18 year old son who goes to college 2days per week and he also work the other days how much longer will he have to carry on with these payments
Jateu 10/03/2018 at 9:00 am
Hi, I am paying full CSA as I'm unable to afford a place to have my two girls over night. My children stay at their grandparents two nights a week. Should i still be paying the full amount as she is not looking after them for two days and nights a week? I am also driving them to and from school and child minder on these days so my ex has no involvement with the children on these days. I also have the girls all day every Sunday. Are csa payments purely calculated on who has the children over night of can I recalculate my payments to ex based on the fact she only looks after them on 4 days and 5 nights of the week?

Many thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/03/2018 at 11:18 am
You would stop paying child maintenance in line with when child benefit stops. When your child leaves approved education or training child benefit and child maintenance payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first)
SeparatedDads Editor 08/03/2018 at 3:25 pm
You can see more via the child maintenance calculator here , which should help you further.
Ady 08/03/2018 at 11:15 am
My daughter’s 19 in May this year, she is doing a beauty therapy course at college. Do I stop paying maintenance on her birthday or when she finishes her course in July/Aug time?

Thanks
ajhs 06/03/2018 at 4:35 pm
My husband pays CMS via DD after opening a case finding out what's entitled and closing case which is perfect, but we have come across an issue we are currently pregnant and with the case closed we don't know the percentage that's deducted once the baby arrives? could you shed any light on this we don't want to deduct wrong so advice would be a massive help many thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/03/2018 at 10:33 am
When your child leaves approved education or training payments will stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first). As child maintenance payments end at the same time as child benefit payments do, you can If your son's mother wishes to continue claiming after this time for financial help towards supporting your son through university, then she would have to apply through court. Otherwise, you can arrange to support your son directly/through mutual negotiation with your son's mother if you choose.
SeparatedDads Editor 05/03/2018 at 3:37 pm
Much depends on whether CMS assesses that your son should be paying child maintenance to help support his child. He can see via the CMS calculator here.
Buzz 05/03/2018 at 1:48 pm
My son is 18 and about to finish college, but intends continuing his education, he is doing a two year foundation course followed by one year at Plymouth university. When can I stop paying child maintenance to his mother.
SeparatedDads Editor 05/03/2018 at 11:58 am
Much depends upon who has told him to pay child maintenance, court, CMS, his ex? You would have to expand.
SeparatedDads Editor 05/03/2018 at 11:36 am
Just because your ex is earning the same as you, it does not mean you are naturally absolved from paying child maintenance. Every non-resident parent is by law responsible for contributing financially to the day-to-day upkeep of their children. Child maintenance is not based upon what the resident parent earns, but is based upon what the NRP earns. Only in cases of shared-care of the children can child maintenance be negated. If your ex doesn't agree to this, you would have to apply to court.
Shell 03/03/2018 at 5:11 pm
My son has 2 children with same person his eldest child lives with him and myself he works she don’t but she wants maintainer for the youngest but won’t even have her daughter if she’s ill so we can go to work does my son have to give the benefit thief money she has the house and every thing
Dave 03/03/2018 at 4:38 pm
HI All,

I have been paying maintenance for 10 years and my wife is now earning much more than she was, about the same as me now. I've heard that a zero-order could help me reduce my maintenance payments, is that right?
And How does it work please?
Thanks, Dave
pixie76 03/03/2018 at 1:49 pm
my husband has been told he's to pay CSA for his son who is 20 in May and has not been in full time education since he left school at 16. His son gets DLA for his autism. Should husband gave to pay?
Emmers 23/02/2018 at 2:14 pm
Hello, I have a baby who’s got complex needs me and her father have separated but I am 17. He has to pay child support. I claim all her other money child benefit etc but my mum will claim her money and transfer it to me as I’m under 18 will my mum still get paid it into her bank or will it be put away till my daughters 18? I’m confused as I’m not able to be paid this will we get it still or will it be put away till my child’s 18 to access herself. Would like to know if I’d get it to spend on her or will we have to have it put away??
SeparatedDads Editor 19/02/2018 at 1:58 pm
You may have to clarify your question further, as it is a little confusing. You can only claim child maintenance from the other parent if the children are living with you.
Luiz 18/02/2018 at 1:35 pm
I have a child from a previous relationship who live with me but now wants to live with her mother, I know I need to pay for her but the amount I have to is high and I also have 2 other children who live with me and another on the way. I'm the only person in my house who earns money and if I have to pay 200 to the mother of my first I won't be able to afford to live in my house I rent with the other children and my partner. Help please
Bradley 17/02/2018 at 3:07 pm
Hi, I have a private agreement with my ex wife that states I pay a large amount of child maintenance. I looked at the CSA calculator and I should be paying a lot less.
My ex has only given me the right to 6 hours with my daughter every Saturday as long as she isn't ill, or at a party. Back when we divorced I was working full time but I am now in full time education and only working a small amount of hours. I'm doing this for my future with my daughter to be able to support her more financially when she grows up. Is there any advice anyone can give me
Thank you
Ad 17/02/2018 at 2:52 pm
Hi there
Can anyone advise me if I can obtain child maintenance support for 2 children living abroad with there mother whilst I am unemployed in Uk
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 12/02/2018 at 2:24 pm
If you are the primary carer of your children, then you are entitled to claim child maintenance from the child's mother, if the mother is earning.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/02/2018 at 12:24 pm
Much depends upon why deductions from earnings were stopped. If there was an investigation taking place and you were given the option to stop paying and the investigation was found not to be in your favour, then you would have to pay arrears. You would have to take this up with CSA/CMS directly
BARI 08/02/2018 at 10:58 pm
CSA stop deductions from my earnings before 3 month ago and now they are saying to me that I need to pay 542 pound and then they will decide how much i will pay every week and may be i need to pay some fine.so what can I do
SeparatedDads Editor 08/02/2018 at 2:59 pm
If your daughter stops receiving child benefit and for instance begins receiving Universal Credit, then you would stop paying child maintenance.
ct1975 07/02/2018 at 11:26 pm
My daughter is pregnant and due to give birth in April. she still lives with her Mum for part of the week 4 days and is at college doing a level 3 course, however she is not attending very often.

do i still need to pay child maintenance when she has the baby?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/02/2018 at 2:00 pm
Unfortunately, only one parent can claim benefits on behalf of the child. If you have your child 50/50 shared care, your only recourse would be to apply to court and for the court to decide which parent benefits should be allocated to.
Tarby 03/02/2018 at 9:39 pm
I have a 3 and half yr old daughter and have parental responsibility and she stays with me 3 nights minimum a week I split with her mother 8 mths ago and I'm on ESA benefit I spend every spare penny on heating food ect and she has every need catered for but it's a struggle the mother has all benefits for herself and children and guardianship of her nephew gets pip for herself and 1 other child in all quite a sum per week in total but I asked once for milk token off her and she denied ..she says in her own words we have 50/50 on my daughter am I entitled to at least a little as she claims full amount for every thing
Paul_J 30/01/2018 at 12:36 pm
Hi, I have a private agreement set up with my ex-wife and the figure was agreed using the CSA calculator on the internet, I am in the Army and see my kids every weekend I have spare and when I am on leave, I have a few questions, should I still be paying her when I have the kids for an extended period such as a whole week or a month in one go without any contact from the kids mother, who is keen for me to have the kids as often as possible. And also do things like travel costs come into account as I have to pay a small fortune in travelling to see my kids, and lastly, my new partner and my mum and dad have the kids on week-nights through-out the working week while I'm working, does this affect anything because in all honesty, I can only say I manage on average 2-3 nights a week over a year but with people from my family having them it adds up to 3-4 nights a week over the year which means for half a year my ex doesn't have my kids, sorry for so many questions and any advice is greatly appreciated. Paul J
Jj 29/01/2018 at 11:05 pm
I've been told I can pay in to a trust fund for my child instead of paying his mother any csa or child maintenance is this correct. As she wastes money and I'd rather it go directly for my child.
Chris 29/01/2018 at 4:26 pm
I have been divorced from my wife now for a few months, we have 2 children and they still live at the family home, renting privately. She gets all the benefits she is entitled to, I have been paying her monthly amounts of £1000 to do the top up on the rent and to keep the kids going like clothes etc.

I have moved to a new job, and paying her that amount is now 50% of my monthly wage. I now have a new partner and looking at places to live etc. I simply cant afford it anymore but do not wanna see the kids homeless or nothing. I believe also if I stop the payments she will stop me seeing the kids who I see twice a month.
Tracey 29/01/2018 at 12:53 pm
My partner told me he no longer wants to be with me but is refusing to move out and we both are on the mortgage. His stop his wage coming into the joint account so is no longer contributing towards his 2 kids can I make a claim for child maintenance even when he still living at the same address??
SeparatedDads Editor 26/01/2018 at 3:38 pm
Yes. A savings account and child maintenance are two separate things. Unless your ex agrees that you pay money into an account instead of directly to your ex, then you would have to continue paying child maintenance.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/01/2018 at 3:36 pm
Your only recourse is to complain, please see the gov.uk which
Tracy 26/01/2018 at 1:16 pm
I'm opening a savings account for my son. Do I still have to pay the csa?.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/01/2018 at 12:01 pm
Child maintenance officially ceases when eligibility to claim child benefit does, If your ex wishes to claim further child maintenance, then she would have to take you to court. The court will look at your daughter's financial needs, the parents’ ability to pay. The court can place an extension of child maintenance until your daughter leaves university (each case is treated individually). If you live in Scotland, the child can take the parent to court directly.
Andy 26/01/2018 at 8:39 am
Have been paying child maintenance for 7 years ex asked for an increase which I refused so you went to cm who have calculated payments on my salary from 2 years ago which I no longer earn I have sent proof of this but they won't reopen my case .Had to leave work due to stress but have worked through an agency for 6 months all wages declared to cm have not worked for 3 weeks also declared but they are still asking for 6 hundred a month in arrears .Who can help
Kingy 25/01/2018 at 8:35 pm
Hi

I have been paying a fixed sum to support my child for three years. During this time my daughter has attended 6th form college. She has also been working and has been paying for some of the items that I agreed to support with my payments. In the last two of the three years I have taken her on holiday abroad. She has also spent on average 2 days per week with me.

She is due to leave college this year and go to university. The payment were arranged through a consent order which states. Payments will be made until she leaves full time education or reaches the age of 19, which ever is the latter.

My intention is to stop payments when she leave colleague. My ex wife is threatening to take me to court. In light of the above information would I have to pay until she is 19. Even though she is at university.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/01/2018 at 2:18 pm
Once child benefit stops, then so will child maintenance payments, , which will explain all you need to know. The resident parent may still be able to claim child benefit for your daughter, if she can prove your daughter is still financially dependent.
Honey 20/01/2018 at 4:22 pm
My daughter is moving in with her boyfriend. I know she is working and I think she is at college but don't know what she is doing and how often she attends. Do I still need to pay csa? Thanks
Milo 19/01/2018 at 11:26 pm
Can you help?
I’ve been paying maintenance for my son!
We don’t have contact as that broke down a long time ago due to the mother!! Too much to go in to.
Basically I pay every month on time as it’s a private set up.
She allows him not to go to school and obviously won’t be going to college!!
Do I have the right to stop payments once he turns 16? How do I find out if she’s still claiming child benefits? I pay a high amount and she got loads more kids with another guy and claims all the benefits on offer to her. It might sound harsh but just want to get on with my life and one day he will want to see me. Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 19/01/2018 at 10:04 am
Child maintenance falls in line with child benefit payments, so when child benefits ceases, so will child maintenance payments. , which will tell you all you need to know.
DadofTwo81 19/01/2018 at 9:42 am
Hi
I have my 2 children stay with me from Friday night until Sunday afternoon.
Can their mother deny me overnight stays?
If so, would this mean I would have to give her more money even though she is the one who has decided that they can't stay with me? I have all of this evidenced in the form of text messages from her if that makes a difference.
Katos1 18/01/2018 at 3:30 pm
Hi my ex has finally started to pay me maintance for about a year, she is 17, she will be 18 in may and is thinking about packing in college and has the chance to work 10 hours a week.
Would this mean my money would stop from her father
Thanks
Kath
SeparatedDads Editor 18/01/2018 at 2:25 pm
A court will not force a parent to have contact with a child, where the parent does not wish for this. There is little you can do to bring your ex to court regarding this matter.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/01/2018 at 2:02 pm
If you have a family-based arrangement, then the agreement is between you and your ex what you pay and when you should pay. As a rule, payments should be made directly to the resident parent in order to help support your daughters' day-to-day needs. Therefore, if your ex is considering going directly to CMS, then it is likely CMS will request you pay your ex directly. You can see how much you should be paying which
Sharing 17/01/2018 at 7:18 pm
Hello, so I’ve being paying into 2 separate accounts for my daughters, I pay £30 a fortnight but now my ex is talking about taking me to court to get more money, what are my rights here? Will I have to pay if I’m already paying into an account or will I be okay just to continue on paying into the bank accounts?
RobbieV Editor 18/01/2018 at 11:57 am
@Mo - it's good that you are keeping money aside - as the last thing you want to do is to be hit by arreas - as I was when my ex stopped me seeing my kids. If there is no way of contacting her then you would have to wait until she contacts CMS. I'm sure she'll do that as soon as the payments stop! But still, you don't want to be burned whan CMS come back and say you owe from the time the CSA stopped.
Mo 17/01/2018 at 10:18 am
My CSA agreement has come to and end and I know I need to keep making payments but I have no way of tracking down my ex partner. I spoke to child maintenance options and they told me that I needed to go through the CMS but when I spoke to them I was told that it's up to the residential parent to instigate proceedings, is this correct? I'm currently putting aside the money I should be paying ready for when it's sorted but I don't want to end up paying non payment charges because of wrong information.
Bubz 16/01/2018 at 9:32 pm
Hi! I’m at a bit of a loss and just looking for some answers please.
I have a son who’s just turned two and had never seen his father because he had no interest after leaving our relationship and playing daddy to someone else’s child. I haven’t got any contact details or know of his whereabouts but have come to the point where I feel he needs to start taking responsibility for his own child. Do I have the right to do this?
123 16/01/2018 at 1:30 pm
My ex is going to claim for our biological son but I have also brought up her 3 children ( my step children) and they stay over the same amount of times as our biological son. Can I claim any maintenance for the 3 step children?
SeparatedDads Editor 15/01/2018 at 12:41 pm
If you wish to try to enforce the order, you would have to refer the matter back to court. As it stands, if you are not seeing your daughter, then CMS would calculate your child maintenance based upon this fact, not the court order.
Piper99 13/01/2018 at 6:04 pm
Hi
I have a court order for very good overnight access to my daughter. Who is now 13.. I pay maintenance but having fallen out with my daughter she has not spoken to me for a year... I believe this is being perpetuated by the mother. Because I haven't seen my daughter my maintenance has gone up considerably but the court order is still in place ... do the CMS ignore court orders even if denial of access is being perpetuated by the mother?
Thanks
S 12/01/2018 at 9:59 pm
I have a son (2) with his dad and his dad has a daughter(5) from another woman too! Would csa get split equal between them both if we both claim from him? I live just me and my son and the other woman lives just her and her kid! The father doesn't live with either of us! Would it be equal and I don't have a clue on payments? All I need to know if it would be equal between both children
SeparatedDads Editor 12/01/2018 at 3:00 pm
You would not have to pay child maintenance for a child who is not biologically yours.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/01/2018 at 11:20 am
You can. All primary carers of children can make child maintenance requests from non-resident parents/non-resident parents are by law required to help support their child financially. Child maintenance payments are based on the non-resident parent's earnings/taxable income. You can see more regarding how much your ex may be requested to pay via which
Step Dad 12/01/2018 at 6:59 am
I moved in with my wife 7 years ago and she had recently been devorced and had a kid from the precious marriage (he was 4). We have recently married ourselfs and she has ask for a devorce after just two years. Would I need to pay maintainance even if his dad has always paid? I
SeparatedDads Editor 11/01/2018 at 2:41 pm
You can see the changes a parent needs to report via whichThe father should not withhold payment until the matter has been resolved via CMS, or he will be liable for arrears.
PIP 11/01/2018 at 12:03 pm
Hi, I used to pay child support to my ex, a few months back I took over all decision making and responsibilities for my son as he no longer lives with my ex. My son was entering his exam year and as I lived 50 miles away the difficulty of moving schools etc at such a crucial stage would have been too much at this time. I agreed with his grandma whom my son would live and I would support and make the main decisions as this would mean he could continue at the same school and have the same friends.

My question is can I claim support from my Ex to contribute towards this to help support his grandma in the upkeep?
SeparatedDads Editor 11/01/2018 at 10:56 am
Your ex will still continue to be financially responsible for helping to pay to support your child, regardless of whether you are re-marry or not.
Tel 11/01/2018 at 12:45 am
My fiancé has a son with previous partner tht is 8 next week
The boys Mum made him vegetarian and is very into Christianity
When my partner had his son he asked for chicken nuggets!
After a long time of refusing he allowed him
After splitting with his then partner she was annoyed and told lil ones Mum his dad gave him chicken now he has visitation with a family mem
From hers
He pays csa every week never has missed it
Spoilt him for Christmas yet still
Can’t even call without the family mem being notified???
He’s dying just wants his son?? What should we do???
What happens next 10/01/2018 at 8:27 pm
I was wondering what happens if the paternal parent (mother) doesn't inform the CSA/CMS that she has finally agreed for the father to have overnight contact and she has said she won't contact CsA/CMS just yet. Bare in mind the father was paying every month and having his child edveubother wkd and 1 day during the week, and the mother decided to stop all contact for 5 mints and went to Cms service for more money.! contact is due to resume form this wkd and she's refusing to call them to advise! Are there any reprecussions for this, as it clearly states if the father doesn't pay them he could have a prison sentance, be disqualified from driving or there'll be a deduction from his earnins.
Jenni 10/01/2018 at 12:30 pm
I am due to get married next year to my partner. I have a child from a previous relationship to which we were never married. My child's father currently pays maintenance. Will he continue to pay the maintenance when i marry or will that stop as i have been told lots of information and I am confused
SeparatedDads Editor 09/01/2018 at 11:30 am
Other things may be considered, you can see how child maintenance is calculated via which
John 08/01/2018 at 6:34 pm
It looks like the CMS are getting involved in calculating how much CM I should pay. I currently pay exactly what the calculator says on the direct.gov website says. Do the CMS use the same calculator or do they consider other things?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 08/01/2018 at 2:09 pm
You would still have to pay to support your children, as per the child maintenance agreement. However, if you consent to the move you may be able to apply for a child maintenance variation which can cover costs
SeparatedDads Editor 08/01/2018 at 10:46 am
Unless agreed with the resident-parent (in this case the mother), payments should always go directly to the mother. If the agreement is a family-based one, who the payments should go to should be negotiated between you and the other parent.
Nanny p 07/01/2018 at 1:26 pm
I am asking for my son, he Hasbeen paying more support than he has been asked to into his daughters bank account on a regular basis but his ex partner has just informed him that she has closed her (daughters) bank account and his payments must now be paid into her step dads bank account, is this allowed.
Steve 81 06/01/2018 at 10:47 am
I have three children from two previous relationships. My oldest I see reguarly and lives near me and I have always paid maintence for, my younger two I have also always paid for but the mother of them has just told me she is moving 300 miles away from me with them to be with her new partner and this will really damage the time I have with them. Do I still have to pay the amount I'm paying for them every month or will it be reduced due to my travel costs to see them? Any knowledgable answers would be much appreciated. Thanks
Jubby 05/01/2018 at 11:00 am
I have my daughter 3 nights one week and 4 nights 2nd week in rotation. Ex works and has child benefit tax credits housing benefit etc. Iv asked her to share the cb and tc with me. She has turned really nasty and now wants to restrict over night stays change the routine and now threatening if i dont stop asking for what i think is a fair share of benefit for my daughter she is going to take me for child support. !!. My daughter smells of tabacco/weed and lousy with headlice when she comes back from my Ex. My Ex fills her home with so called friends and nieghbours and they smoke drugs etc when my Daughter is there. When my daughter returned to me last week she had lost 3lb in weight. What can i do.
JLP 03/01/2018 at 8:05 am
I have been separated from my daughters mother for 10 months. They live with her 5 nights a week and live with me the other 2 over a 2 week routine which we agreed upon separation. This was an agreement between me and the ex and was not ruled in court. I used the Direct.gov calculator to calculate the child maintenance payments using my P60 minus pension contribution. In 10 months i have paid on payday a little more than the calculator stays without fail.
My ex is not saying she wants to go thru the CSA because she thinks i should be paying more. I haven't hid anything and the numbers I've used are honest and accurate. Will the CSA take her case if i have never missed or underpaid? I'm worried i'll end up on collect and pay which costs me more money.
javb 30/12/2017 at 1:48 pm
I am on P.I.P and Employment and Support Allowance as I am disabled. At the moment I pay for my daughter every month as she was 17 in November and at college. But now she is going to stop her college and look for a job. Do I have to pay when she is working as the college will stop and she said that she might go back to study at college when she is 19 !
I am a bit confused about what happens about me paying for her and if it stops when she leves college and then I pay again when she goes back at 19 or it stops all together when she starts working at 17 ?
Can anyone tell me the facts about this as I do not want to get into trouble.
Take care and have a happy New year.
javb
Parent 29/12/2017 at 2:02 pm
I am asking in behalf if my son he is paying child maintenance for his two children but his ex partner will not let him or us see his children on his own. If he signs the children over to her through a solicitor will he have to carry on paying child maintenance.
Jester 28/12/2017 at 11:44 am
My son turned 18 in July this year & started full time work. I wrote to the CMS but I'm still paying the same amount ! They say I must until the child's mother tells the Child Benefit
(not CMS) that the lad is 18 and working! CMS say when Child Benefit informs them they will re look at the fugure! How can this be right ?
SeparatedDads Editor 21/12/2017 at 3:22 pm
If you have a family-based arrangement, it is agreed between you and your ex. CMS cannot request back payments if they haven't assessed the claim.
1 dad 20/12/2017 at 9:06 am
I am currently paying for my child who is 17 years old and she is attending college but also she us working more than 16 hours a week and this us classed as full time how do i stand ?? Do I still have to pay untill my child leaves college ??
Look forward to your comments thanks.
it 19/12/2017 at 7:58 pm
I have an agreement with my ex and i pay 40 pound a week for my daughter. With this agreement in place could the cms take back payment if they calculate that i should of been paying more
Dannymc87 19/12/2017 at 1:03 am
I have recently been forced to back pay an outstanding debt with CMS. Which I am disputing, but the mother has stopped access and won’t let me see my daughter. My payments are over £500 but the mother gives me no access to my daughter and hasn’t since May. What do I do now and must I still pay her even though I can’t see my daughter?
SeparatedDads Editor 18/12/2017 at 10:05 am
Child maintenance is paid towards the child's day-to-day welfare and every non-resident parent is responsible by law for paying child maintenance until the child finishes full-time government approved education. If your grandson is being home schooled, it would not change the fact your son still has to help to financially support his child.
Bettyboop 16/12/2017 at 8:35 am
Hi I'm asking for my son his eldest son 14 has been excluded from school now so at moment does 4hrs a week on computer at home schooling does he still by law have to pay full cms
It seems very unfair
SeparatedDads Editor 15/12/2017 at 3:17 pm
If you are paying child maintenance via CMS, then you are assessed over the year and the average payment is worked out. This means you would continue to pay child maintenance regardless of whether you had your children for a week's holiday. If you pay via a family-based child maintenance arrangement, then you would have to negotiate between you and your ex.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/12/2017 at 9:27 am
Unless you were awarded Parental Responsibility of your step-child, then you have no financial responsibility for him/her, you have only responsibility for your own child. Your ex would have to be the person to make a claim through CMS, as it is up to the resident parent with regards to whether they wish to claim child maintenance from a non-resident parent. Your only recourse is to simply refuse, your ex has no legal leg to stand on in trying to enforce a payment. Although, it may be a different matter if you have PR or legally adopted the child.
007 15/12/2017 at 6:09 am
I pay child maintenance for my two children each month. However, if I were to have them for holidays or for a week at a time do I need to pay maintenance for the week that I have them? I can't find an answer to this anywhere! If I had to then I would but be nice to know either way. Thank you.
CBR 14/12/2017 at 10:10 am
I have recently split up from my partner we have one child and she has another child from a previous relationship. she does not want the other dad to pay maintenance as he does not see the child. he has never paid a penny as i was footing the bills when we were together. she is demanding that i pay her more money every month (that i cannot afford) because he does not pay maintenance even though she knows where he lives and could easily pursue him for payments. i am happy to pay maintenance for my child and always pay the correct amount on time. however, i am not happy about being harassed for extra money for a child that is not mine when the dad could very easily be made to pay.

is this right? would making a complaint to the csa start the process of him having to pay.
SeparatedDads Editor 07/12/2017 at 2:48 pm
Most non-resident parents will supply some clothes when the child is resident with them. It is neither the responsibility of the resident parent to supply clothes and other needs when the child stays at the non-resident parent's house. The matter is usually discussed and agreed mutually.
Helpful 05/12/2017 at 10:55 pm
Im paying for daughter maintenance. Asked csa when they started this about clothes and school excursions if i have to buy. They informed that i maintenance and thats all i have to pay mother has to supply. I still buy clothes for daughter for when she is with me. Can someone shed some info on rules about responsibility after paying maintenance please
SeparatedDads Editor 04/12/2017 at 10:39 am
Your partner would have to be able to prove his children aren't living with the mother. If the other person the children are living with is eligible to collect child benefit for the children, then this person should also be the one child maintenance is paid to. However, if the arrangement is informal then your partner may have trouble proving the children are officially living elsewhere.
Bb 03/12/2017 at 11:56 am
My partner pays a large sum of child maintenance for his two children to their mother whom the children do not live with. Should the mother be in receipt of this payment? Happy to pay maintenance but not to someone who doesn't have care of the children and who has stated, in a legal document, that the children will permanently be in the care of a third party. Maintainace is for day to day care, housing, food, clothes etc. If mother is not the main carer why is she able to claim this? And what is the money going on?

In addition, mother stops father from seeing the children and is now desputing payments saying she wants more money because he's not seeing the children but she is the one preventing him. In court proceedings to try to sort contact.

Very messy situation. Just need some clarification, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 28/11/2017 at 3:21 pm
Child maintenance payments are based only on taxable earnings. Therefore, if you have no taxable earnings you would have to pay only flat rate.
SeparatedDads Editor 28/11/2017 at 12:39 pm
Only if your step-daughter leaves the course and the resident parent stops being eligible for child benefit can child maintenance stop. You'd have to give your stepdaughter the benefit of the doubt that she will attend. If she does not attend, it is likely the college will dismiss her from the course, at which point child benefit would stop being paid. When a child leaves approved education or training payments will officially stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first).
sticks 27/11/2017 at 12:59 pm
I believe that the biological mother of my step-daughter plans to enrol my step-daughter onto a college course which she has no intention of attending, with a view to extending her child benefits and my partner's CMS payments. Is there anyway of appealing against making CMS payments if my step-daughter never attends?
Me 26/11/2017 at 2:12 pm
I have my children every weekend and happily pay maintenance even towards my step son. Yet I am sick of giving the ex partner money when she spends all weekend in pubs drinking. Is it possible to stop giving her the money and spend it on my children myself so I know its going towards them and not her? Thanks
MrG 26/11/2017 at 8:46 am
I have a question please!.
I pay maintinence to my ex partner for my disabled daughter. I would like to go back to university to study for 3 years. I have recently married, will I still need to pay maintenance if I don’t have an income because I’m a student!??
groovejet 24/11/2017 at 7:53 pm
I have a car on hire purchase and pay child maintenance on an agreement with my x .we have fallen out and she says she is going to the csa for full payment. my question is can they make me give up my hire purchase car which I need for work to pay maintenance
Sss 23/11/2017 at 3:57 pm
So my partner just got a full time job. He has his daughter once a fortnight for the full weekend. Does he have to pay child maintenance still? Or can he just continue to buy his daughter things when she needs them?
SeparatedDads Editor 21/11/2017 at 10:44 am
Education must be full-time (more than an average of 12 hours a week supervised study or course-related work experience), which tell you what the education includes. However, if your partner is paying via CMS, then he would have to check with CMS first when/if he can stop paying.
Doris 20/11/2017 at 1:11 pm
If my step daughter is doing under 12 hrs at college and is 16, does that mean we no longer have to pay child support? Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 17/11/2017 at 11:05 am
If you have sent evidence from the college to the child benefit agency and CMS and there you have been ignored, you can complain
Mark 16/11/2017 at 11:07 am
My son is currently studying a Level 4 Advanced Associate Diploma which is considered as higher education. However his mum has told child benefit and child maintenance that he is studying a Level 3 in order to keep child maintenance payments. The fact that he does not live with her is annoying. There were taking £82 a week but they have reduced it to £51. The problem is that because she has lied to child benefit, child maintenance is still in payment. I have sent off information regarding his course but unless child benefits stop, child maintenance is still in payment what else can I do?
JudgeT Editor 17/11/2017 at 2:34 pm
@Grant01 - have you gone back in a time machine to the 1980s? Thatcher is dead. On the subject of your child maintenance, it doesn't matter if your ex is a millionaire, as your child's father you are still considered as being responsible for paying child maintenance to support your kid.
Grant01 14/11/2017 at 1:39 pm
So I regualry have my son over night. Min of two times a week and when ever else I can work dependant. I have him more during the days due to working hours. Does Thatcher taken into consideration? Also she's currently living back with her parents who pay for everything yet wants full money off me. (She left me with the family home to pay for etc)

Seems a bit unfair?
Vt 13/11/2017 at 10:10 pm
My husband has a 6 year old son who stays with his mam 5 nights and with us 2 nights plus most of another day. He pays over £200 a month in child maintenance and his access is Friday, Saturday and Sunday. However she will tell us that she's made plans one weekend and hasn't discussed it with us first and then won't let us have the access that weekend. What rights does my husband have to get this to stop?
MGN Editor 14/11/2017 at 12:07 pm
@Skyblue - or you can see it as supporting your son to get a better education. My son is going to uni next year and I'm happy to pay towards his education. I'm sure some mums do this - but I'd rather my son had some qualifications he can fall back on rather than be an apprentice and work full time and earn £3.50 an hour. Mark.
Skyblue 13/11/2017 at 7:43 pm
Am I the only one who sees child maintenance as a cash cow system for bitter ex’s?
My son left school and I got him an apprenticeship with a customer I look after. She said no, he’s going to college! He’s not the academic type and this will not benefit him for the future in my opinion but she has forced him into it because I think she’s looking at the financial benefit to her. He’s even earning himself with a part time job and she charges him board to!
SeparatedDads Editor 13/11/2017 at 3:39 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course or until they turn 20. If you still feel you have been unfairly treated, you can complain.
SeparatedDads Editor 13/11/2017 at 3:01 pm
Child maintenance payments are based purely on the non-resident parent's earnings, not the resident parent's income and/or who the other parent chooses to live with.
Moz 13/11/2017 at 2:09 pm
My ex partner has a very well paid job but does not pay tax
So when the CSA review comes up it states he is earning £26
And should only pay £7.
We had a agreement that he pays £100 for two children but when I found out that he booked a 10k holiday for himself and partner, brought new BMW with private plate, Rolex watch on display. Then another expensive holiday.
I piped up - I said that he should be paying more for two children and he knows it. So then agreed to pay £140 this only happened for a month or so then payments completely stopped.
My ex loved the control and used the maintenance as control - he wouldn’t pay for months on end and then chuck a large sum at me.
He had both children for a fortnight and they came back to me in a right state not fed - was told they were skipping meals, stinking of cigarette smoke, unwashed, my daughter long hair was not brushed for at least a week and was completely matted.
Since then I have told him he needs to have the children along side of his mother at her address to ensure their safety is met.
He has stop all maintenance but because the man does not pay tax - CSA state he is not working when he clearly is
I have texts stating that if I report him then he will simply just go on benefits.
I’ve filed a court application
Does anyone know where I stand
Thanks
Kev 11/11/2017 at 9:35 am
Hi. I pay child maintenance through a mutual agreement with my ex for my two daughters. I have shared care of my daughters for 3 to 4 nights a week every week. My ex's boyfriend has moved in with her and I. Wondering if this will reduce my payments as she has a second income coming into her house.

Thanks
A130atr 11/11/2017 at 12:31 am
I have received a letter from csa stating I must pay for my daughter who is 18, she left school and went to art college in Sep 17. I have paid maintenance for years for her, but stopped when she turned 18, had a verbal agreement with her that if she wanted or needed anything I would get it, and I have done so.
Now the csa says I must pay maintenance, they have calculated my salary at £8k than I earn and said even if it is wrong then they won’t reveiw it for 12 months.

What can I do ?
Ejeidj 10/11/2017 at 5:55 pm
My partner has a child from a previous relationship. He and all his family have been stopped from seeingthe child. He stopped child maintenance and then she kicked up a fuss so he started paying again but stated he would like to see his daughter! Should he be paying if his side of the family have no contact with the child what so ever? She also has a new partner who provides for the child and it seems the child maintenance she is getting gets spent on holidays and she gets her family to have her child!
Jojo 10/11/2017 at 2:41 pm
I receive maintenance for my daughter, they also have a child from another relationship that they pay for privately.
If they have told maintenance about the other child will maintenance put that into consideration before they give me an amount I should receive?
Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/11/2017 at 2:19 pm
Yes, by law you are still responsible for paying child maintenance towards the care of your child regardless of whether you see your child, or whether the child lives in the UK or not. The Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order (REMO) Unit helps to register and enforce child maintenance orders internationally. However, likewise if your child isn't living with her, then her parents can also claim from her.
TIM 09/11/2017 at 11:13 pm
My ex has sent my son to a different country so her parents look after the little one. Now she put a claim through child maintenance asking me to pay. I used to pay but she stopped said don't need my help.
I only seen the kid once when he was 2 now he is 6 there is no connection neither bond.
1. Do I still have to pay even child is not in the country?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/11/2017 at 9:53 am
Have you contacted the child benefit office to see whether your ex is claiming child allowance? If you have parental responsibility of your child, you may be able to take this route to find out if the mother is still in receipt of child benefit (which would mean your daughter was still in full-time education), A solicitor's letter requesting bank details and the information on your daughter's schooling from your ex may also be an option. It will give you back-up to show that you have attempted to try to sort the issue out. Keeping in touch with CMS in order to try to resolve the issue is important as you don't want to be hit with arrears.
KELLOGS 05/11/2017 at 10:47 am
can you please tell me ,I have paid for my daughter from birth to now she is seventeen, Ihave tried to contact and find out if she has left education, but i cannot get any answers I have contacted the csa/cms and they have tried to get in contact via phone, text, and letter with no replies they told me I have to get her bank details to pay it into if she is still claiming child allowance but that has had no response I do not know where to go from here.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/11/2017 at 1:44 pm
Unfortunately, CMS cannot take money from your ex if he isn't working, despite him owing arrears (which will go on hold while he is out of work). Child maintenance is based on tax he pays through HMRC. Therefore, if he is not paying tax, then CMS cannot collect. You are not out of order requesting that he at least shares part of the journey and picks up the children up from you. Nil rate is where a non-resident parent's income is under £7 per week. A flat rate of £7 per week is paid in child maintenance where a non-resident parent's gross weekly income is less than £100 a week.
Mich 02/11/2017 at 10:48 pm
It took me a very long time for me to get CM from my children's dad , they had to get a deduction of earnings in the end and he still tried to take them to court over the 20% on top that he had to pay, anyway I hadn't had a payment and spoke to CM , apparently he called them in the 25th sept to say he was no longer working at his previous job and he'd send new details, it's now 2nd Nov and it's taken me calling CM to find this out , they said they will chase it up but does anyone know what that entails ? He's already owing arrears ! And I'm so worried with it being so close to Christmas, we have 4 children together who he has every other weekend for 1 night , I drive them there and pick them up! 40 mins each way down the motorway, am I out of order saying he will have to the pick ups and drop offs as I honestly can't afford the petrol now! Although it means him getting the train ?
I get treated so badly by him when he's the one that had an affair after 19 years together and went off the day after Boxing Day ! Now having to deal with losing the money each month just before Christmas is ridiculous!
rebecca braid 02/11/2017 at 4:23 pm
My partner is stopped from seeing his daughter with his ex. She hasn’t applied for any child maintenance and won’t. We tried to make arrangements with them to pay, but they said she has to apply for it. How else could we pay that can be documented?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/11/2017 at 11:20 am
The CAB whichshould be able to answer your question.
MidsMan 01/11/2017 at 12:01 pm
Just getting divorced and sorting childcare arrangements.

My ex and I have agreed 50/50 custody of the children, and I'm now looking at Child Maintenance.

I earn more than my ex-wife, but i'm unclear how her income is factored in the calculation.

It appears that if she didn't work, or earned a similar wage to me, she would still be entitles to the same figure from me, the Payee.

I will always make sure my children are financially supported, but would really appreciate any insight into how the 'recipient's' income is factored into the .gov calculator?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 31/10/2017 at 11:19 am
Only overnight stays are counted when assessments for child maintenance are being made.
Rab 30/10/2017 at 5:37 pm
Paying maintenance is not a problem. I was wanting advice about if i have my daughter from 8am till 5pm during holidays and when im not on night shift. Can i alter my payments or is it only for overnight stays. Many thanks
mike AJ 30/10/2017 at 3:44 pm
Hi, I have been looking after my daughter on a fortnightly basis of week 1: 2 nights, week 2: 3 nights.

I have never missed a CMS payment and I have always picked up and looked after my daughter.

My ex wife has stopped me from seeing my daughter. I'm currently seeking legal advice and planning on going to court to prevent this from happening a 3rd time.

I have had my daughter for 94 nights so far this year.

How will my CMS payments be affected whilst my ex wife literally stops me from seeing my daughter?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 30/10/2017 at 12:01 pm
If you pay child maintenance via a family-based arrangement then you would agree this between you. However, if you pay through CMS, then child maintenance is calculated as an average over the year. Therefore, you would have to continue paying for your children through your time away. With regards to other children affecting the amount you pay, you can find out via which
LongSufferer 30/10/2017 at 11:56 am
Hi,
My husband pays £500 for two children to ex-wife every four weeks (13 times a year). The eldest child is in hospital for a rehab programme for long term problem. She will be in for 10-12 weeks. Does he still need to pay for her during this time as she is not living with her?
Obviously he would still pay the £250 for child 2.
Thanks in advance.
KTM 28/10/2017 at 10:41 am
Hi my question is I'm paying my son's mother every month and I don't have a problem with it but I took him on holiday from Monday to Friday and had him my normals days then Friday to the Sunday do I still have to pay her for that week I took him away as she didn't have him for the 7 days I paid her for 3 out of the four weeks, the money for that week was needed to provide food etc for my son & also I had another child with my current fiance an she is now 1 years old does that effect the parents I'm making for my son, thanks for any answers in advance.
Douglas 26/10/2017 at 1:50 pm
My daughter lives with my ex and fished her A levels in July. She works and will start university in February. Do I still legally have to pay my ex child maintenance?
Spike 25/10/2017 at 2:54 pm
Hi, I'm wondering when my husband can finish paying, she's 18 resitting exams in 6th former, looking to go to university. Working part time and claiming money from the government every week when do I stop paying child maintenance
Jed 25/10/2017 at 11:11 am
I pay my ex child maintenance each month as was agreed and written into court consent order from divorce. My ex lives abroad with my son. We have a child arrangement order that stipulates my ex pays for return flights for my son back to the UK to visit me and that I would not need to pay maintenance whilst my son is visiting me. My son is visiting me over the summer and will stay with me for 2 months. My question is - should my ex also be paying me child maintenance whilst my son is staying with me.
SeparatedDads Editor 23/10/2017 at 3:08 pm
Your ex's income has nothing to do with you and the fact that regardless of what your ex earns, or what she saves, you as the biological father of your children are by law responsible for paying child maintenance. Your ex's income is not taken into consideration when assessing what 'you' should pay as a contribution to the day-to-day care of your children. In simple terms, your ex could be a millionaire and you would still be helpd responsible to paying your share towards your children's care.
SeparatedDads Editor 23/10/2017 at 11:12 am
I don't understand what the question is that you are asking. Do you want to contribute more and your daughter's guardians are refusing? Or are you asking whether you have to pay child maintenance to your daughters if you have another child too? If you can clarify the question, I can help answer it.
Elaine 22/10/2017 at 11:15 am
Hiya can i have advice please my girls don't live with me they live with there auntie .. She works 20-24 hrs a week she get child benefits child tax credit working taxes credits child maintence from my ex I don't see my kids regularly coz they stop me .. I don't mind paying for my kids that's not a argument but I do have a baby to support I only get child tax and child benefit for my baby to fees her and cloth her my partner gets money bit we are not married I offered to send money down to help toward stuff the kids needs but they kept saying no they have it all
Henry 21/10/2017 at 3:01 pm
My ex has 2 children from me, we've been separated over a year and she's claiming every benefit there's to be claimed including the expensive house benefit, child tax credit, income support and child benefit as well as getting healthy start vouchers monthly that'll help with costs of food, to my knowledge she's able to make ends meet as well as saving from all those benefits. On top of all that, now and after we've been separated for a year following her abusive attitude towards me and the numerous false statements she made to authorities resulting in me leaving the family home and establish a new life in a different city altogether, she wants to get her hands on my income, only when she knew that I'm with another partner and we're willing to get married. I need to stress the fact that she's been living comfortably without any Child maintenance payments for a whole year (and able to save in excess of 16K in a foreign bank account), till she heard that I'm with another partner.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/10/2017 at 3:45 pm
Your wage has nothing to do with your husband's child maintenance payments. You are not deemed responsible for paying to help towards the day-to-day care of your husband's children.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/10/2017 at 2:51 pm
When a child leaves approved education or training, payments should stop at the end of February, 31 May, 31 August or 30 November (whichever comes first), in line with when child benefit stops. If your partner has stopped paying child maintenance without authorisation from CMS then please note, he will be liable to pay arrears. The non-resident parent is responsible for paying towards the day-to-day care of their child, regardless of the other parent's lifestyle.
val 18/10/2017 at 8:43 pm
Hi Can anyone help.
My partner paid up until recently full maintenance for his 17yr old son, via into his ex's bank account. He has paid this religiously until his son started work a few weeks back. Since his son left school 18months ago he has joined college numerous times and packed them in within a few weeks/months. Although my partner continued to pay regardless.
The law states that his ex should inform the cms if he leaves education or starts work. therefore she has commited fraud. On the gov website, all it seems to go on about is if the dad stops paying and what to do about that . under all the guidence it does not say if the mother fails to tell the cms that the child has left college/started work?
I am presuming my partner will be told that this is a seperate issue and that he will have to take his ex to the small claims.
My partner works 7 days a week in order to pay his maintenance and have ourselves a decent lifestyle. Yet his ex works part time, has a partner living with her undeclared and drives round in a new car.
My partner is not trying to get out of paying for his son but why is the law always on the mothers side? Any help and advice would be appreciated .thank you
Rach 17/10/2017 at 6:58 pm
Hi could I get some advice please?

My husband has 2 children with his ex. They agreed on a monthly payment between them before I met my husband.
We got married a couple of months ago and she is claiming that my wage now has to be factored into his maintenance payments. Is this correct?
Lovingdad 14/10/2017 at 4:15 pm
I have three children from a previous marriage. I have always paid the full amount (online calculator based) through private arrangement. The oldest has just asked asked to come and live with me. How does this affect my payment for all three children once she moves in. Do I have to pay for two who live with mum and thier mum pay me for the one that lives with me? Or, is it a case where only an offset payment arrangement is made where the child that lives with me cancels out one that live with mum and therefor I only have to pay for one child? Thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 13/10/2017 at 2:47 pm
You do not have to pay child maintenance to a child who is not biologically yours, unless you have officially adopted the child.
query 12/10/2017 at 1:13 pm
Hi

If my son (8) and I move in with my partner will his maintenance be reduced that he pays for his ex partner and his one other child ?
SeparatedDads Editor 12/10/2017 at 9:53 am
Regardless of whether the father's name is on the birth certificate or who the mother is living with or married to, if the father is named as the father to CMS then he is still required to pay child maintenance.
HN 11/10/2017 at 2:40 pm
Hi,
Could someone please advise?
If a mother refuses to put father on birth certificate, child does not have the fathers name and she does not allow contact - does the father still pay maintenance when the mother moves in with a new partner?
Happy to pay however would rather put money into savings for the child.
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 09/10/2017 at 3:45 pm
If your daughter ceases receiving child benefit and begins receiving the likes of income support/universal credit, then CMS would stop your payments automatically.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/10/2017 at 3:23 pm
If your brother stops paying child maintenance, then he will be subjected to arrears if he is paying through CMS. So, suggesting he stops paying will do more harm than good and is definitely NOT sound advice. A receiving parent does not have to justify what they spend child maintenance on. If his ex is struggling financially, it may go towards unseen things such as utility bills etc.
Zoom007 08/10/2017 at 8:32 pm
My 17 year old is having a baby and will be claiming child benefit for her own child so her child benefit stops she will also claim income support do I still have to pay csa
Auntie 07/10/2017 at 9:09 pm
Hi I'm looking for advice on behalf of my brother, he lost contact with his children until I tracked his ex diwn on Feb, she went straight through csa and they take around £250 pcm from his £1100 pay, this left him with not even enough money to pay his £900 pcm rent let alone feed himself. He had to take on a second job which leaves him little time to visit his children and they live 60 miles away so when he does see them it costs him a fortune, petrol takes them somewhere that costs, feeds them etc!! Anyway his son has told him that he has not got a bed and sleeps on a mattress on the floor, the children are not well dressed either so my brothers concern is where is his money going?? Obviously not on meeting the children's needs!! I've told him he should stop half of the maintainance and provide for them himself, buying a bed and clothes and anything else they need.. would this be acceptable??
He has also had wind that she may be taking drugs but has no proof!!
Diego 06/10/2017 at 7:02 pm
Hi, do I need to pay child maintenance for a non biological child to my ex wife?
SeparatedDads Editor 05/10/2017 at 10:15 am
Firstly, the receiving parent's income is disregarded in cases of child maintenance. Every non-resident parent is required by law to help financially support their children and therefore what the receiving parent earns is not accounted for. Benefits are paid to the primary carer of the children. With regards to your brother's personal situation, CMS prefer parents to have a family-based arrangement where child maintenance is paid directly to the primary carer and arranged between both. However, if for whatever reason the primary carer approaches CMS, (i.e for instance if the non-resident parent hasn't been paying or is behind) then the NRP will be assessed on their earnings.
There are several factors that CMS will take into account i.e how many children the paying parent has, their income and how much time they spend with the paying parent (overnight). On the basic rate, if the NRP is paying for one child, they will pay 12% of their gross weekly income, two children, 16% and three or more children, they would pay 19% of their gross weekly income. If your brother earns £13,000 per annum this roughly equates to £47.50. However, where arrangements are made via CMS, then administrative charges are placed on top. Both parents must pay a collection fee for using the Collect & Pay service. The Collect & Pay service is when the CMS works out the amount of child maintenance to be paid and collects payments from the paying parent and passes them on to the receiving parent. The paying parent will have to pay a 20 per cent collection fee each time a payment is collected from them. The receiving parent will have to pay a four per cent collection fee each time a payment is passed onto them. I do empathise with the fact your brother is struggling to manage and cannot afford suitable accommodation in order to have his children over more. However, the rate is calculated on the basis of what he would contribute to the children over a week, if he still lived at home. These contributions can be unseen, such as help towards utility bills, food, clothing and extras etc, which all parents are responsible for paying towards if and where they are earning money. I'm afraid this does not help answer your question, but it hopefully does put it into context.
Kat 04/10/2017 at 1:47 pm
Hi There

I'm looking for advice on behalf of my brother who has recently separated with his wife, i wont bore you with the details but she had relations outside of the marriage which resulted in child number 4. They have 3 children between them .

Any how, my brother works full time and earns just over £13k and his outgoings pretty much match what's coming in with very little left... he now lives in a small room in a house share and survives on Jam sandwiches. Where in contrast she does not work, her house is paid for by housing benefit and she pays top up, which is £4500 in arrears. She receives child benefit, tax credits, disability living allowance for the two older children and carers allowance so all in all a little over £3500 per month.She has now made a claim for child maintenance and they have said she is entitled to £65per week.

He has the children two afternoons a week and on the Saturday. All three children are in full time education. He is unable to have them over night as he lives in one room.

I am struggling to understand a few things and any advice is much appreciated. :

1 - how on earth he can pay £65 per week ? This isn't about avoiding paying for his children but i cant understand how he will keep a roof over his head. He cant afford a bigger place to have the children overnight, coupled with work commitments . He isn't deemed to be a priority with the council for housing as a weekend dad, but unless he gets a bigger place he cant have them over night. Catch 22

2 - If he is having the children a % of the time, would he not also be entitled to a % of the benefits she is given for their DLA, Carer, child benefit, tax credit ? from the info i have been given only one person can claim, as she has already done this she has to agree that he can claim one of the benefits.
She is outright refusing saying he has never given her any money so she wont be giving any.

Ive tried to explain that the money belongs to the children and its for their care, the children don't stop having special needs because they are with their dad on the Saturday. When he collects them he has no money to provide for them and no where to take them.

All the advice i have been given so far just stacks in her favor, she has to agree, he has to give her more money...... Ive not had any experience in dealing with benefits before , i raise too children and work full time, this is starting to make me wonder if its better is i lived on benefits.

Please someone restore my faith and tell me there is something he can do ???
Sickoffit 02/10/2017 at 11:07 pm
My son finished school when he was 16 lounged about till he was 17 I got him a job with me and he only lasted 3 days and left said it was hard work then left it about 6 months and enrolled at college 1 day a wk which he do for 2 months then went on the sick for a year and half. He's now 21 and still not in work yet csa have sent me a letter saying I owe £17000 yet I payed until he left school. There saying because he attended college for 2 months i have to pay but Doesn't he have to off attended college in order for me to have to pay the whole lot and not him sitting at home for the year and half ?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/10/2017 at 2:51 pm
Only your earnings (as the biological father) are taken into consideration, not your new wifes. Your new wife is deemed to have no personal responsibility to financially support your child by another relationship.
Snail 30/09/2017 at 7:10 pm
Hi, I have a child that at this time I don't see ,his choice,but I pay his mum monthly,if I marry will my new wife's wages come in to how much I pay my x for our child?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/09/2017 at 12:37 pm
There are no rules on what your ex uses child maintenance for and she does not have to justify what she spends the money on. At the same time, whatever you pay over and above the general child maintenance payments as assessed via CMS, is voluntary and to be made at your discretion. In other words, you cannot be penalised if you don't.
SeparatedDads Editor 29/09/2017 at 12:14 pm
You personally do not have to pay child maintenance to your partner's/husband's children. But, if your husband's children are in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then his maintenance payments will continue until the children finish the course or until they turn 20. If, one child is working and earning full-time or earning money while on an apprenticeship, then payments can stop. The fact the mother drives a BMW is irrelevant. Every non-resident parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job, or 18-20 if they are in full-time government approved education.
Geo 28/09/2017 at 3:17 pm
Hi, I pay a handsome sum to my ex partner every month of £450 now moving to £550. I have my two kids 3 days out of 7 , take them holidays, pocket money , cloth them , pay half of school trips etc etc .. no that I al paying £550 PM I don't feel I should all be paying for half the school trips and and tutors . Is the £550 a month I pay to their Mum for CMS payments not meant to be used to fund this sort of thing ? I can see no real guidelines around what exactly the monthly payments are meant for.
Given I have kids almost half the time and have all the exact same expenses to run a house, feed the kids and take holidays it seems a touch unreasonable that she also expects me to pay for half of everything else on top ?

Thanks
Kazi 28/09/2017 at 8:57 am
Hi I am a step parent with grown up children of my own. I am wondering if we still have to pay our mutual agreement? We have paid money without missing a payment since I met my step children. We have gone halves with school uniform, trips, clothes as well as buying as and when they've needed it? I strongly agree with the separated parent paying. At present the mother drives a BMW 4x4 has a far better life style than us?? We've just bought out son/ step son a moped to get to college( even though the mother has just got a bursary for bus fares!) We still buy clothes tax and the youngest is 16 but now working? Does this count now he works?
SeparatedDads Editor 26/09/2017 at 11:10 am
You really need to speak to CMS directly. Every non-resident parent legally has to provide financial support to their child. If you are the primary (main) carer of your child, you are entitled to receive child maintenance from your child's father. The fact your ex has your son will not make a difference regarding your eligibility to claim. Please see CMS which
fedupparent 25/09/2017 at 12:59 pm
Hi
The father of my child has never paid a penny. my son is 4 he stays with his dad every Saturday night from around 17.00 - 17.00 Sunday. As he stays there one night a week will this make a difference. he always says he wont pay as he 'provides for him' but we all know buying a nice outfit here and there or toys is not providing. Basically I have gave him the option to start paying and come up with an amount himself but he wont' he works full time and says I wont get anything because he has him over night can you clarify?
Stepman 21/09/2017 at 11:03 pm
Can I be forced to pay my sons university fees?
He currently has been held back a year in 6 form college. He is 20!
He lives with my x who earns 3 times my salary.
I have been separated for 19 years/married now for 10 to someone who makes me very happy and I had paid £300 every month to my x for 20 years. (Just made my last payment)
This month it stops and now I'm expected to continue £300 for life and my x is asking for university costs of £9,000.
My salary is low but I work hard. I'm happy but I don't understand how this can be fair?
My wife's isn't a high earner either and it has been unfair on her as I have been promising life will improve after my son turns 20... but now this!
Is there any way around this? I'm thinking of quitting my job and going to college / university to better myself as I deserve to live my life and won't have much of an opportunity to enjoy it if my x gets what she wants.
SeparatedDads Editor 21/09/2017 at 12:39 pm
Child benefit automatically stops and likewise so does child maintenance when your child is no longer in government approved education specified in which
Victim 20/09/2017 at 1:55 pm
My daughter is in advanced education doing a level 6 qualification for the next 3 years and no longer lives with her mother. Her mother has told CMS that she is still in Full Time Education but not the fact it is advanced. CMS say they will check with child benefit service, but for the same reasons she has not told them the facts. I am no longer going to pay the expand want to contribute to my daughter directly. I have uploaded all the evidence so why is the system supporting claiments through word of mouth and yet ignoring evidential facts, surely this is discrimination?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/09/2017 at 3:00 pm
If you are living in the UK, your income has no bearing on what your boyfriend pays. It is only his income that is taken into consideration.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/09/2017 at 2:11 pm
Your partner's ex can name your partner as the father if she believes the child is his. It is then up to your partner to prove he is not by taking a DNA test. Until the DNA test comes back with the results your partner is legally obliged to pay child maintenance towards the day-to-day care of his son. If the results come back and he is the father, then he will have to continue to pay child maintenance regardless of whether he chooses to see his child or not. If he is not the father, then any child maintenance he has paid to date should be reimbursed. If your partner thinks he is not the father, then it is important to get a DNA test asap, CMS may allow your partner to put child maintenance on hold until the results come back, but this will just accrue arrears if he is found to be the father. Your partner does not have to have been married to, or with his ex at the time he fathered a child. The situation would be the same if the child was conceived on a one night stand.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/09/2017 at 1:48 pm
You do not have to pay anything above and beyond your child maintenance payment, anything above and beyond this is voluntarily made by you. Likewise, your ex does not have to justify what she spends child maintenance on. It can often be towards unseen items such as utility bills and food etc. Therefore, what you pay goes into the family pot towards the day-to-day care of your children as a whole.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/09/2017 at 12:42 pm
If your 16-year-old is claiming universal credit or income support, then your ex is not entitled to claim child benefit for her and therefore not entitled to claim child maintenance from you either. All really hinges on whether your ex is in receipt of child benefit, with regards to you paying child maintenance. Once child benefit stops, so do child maintenance payments. CMS will also stop child maintenance payments when information shared via DWP shows child benefit has ceased. I can only ask that you appeal and/or complain, However, if your children are registered with college, then you have little recourse regardless of their personal attendence record.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/09/2017 at 10:09 am
If the amount of maintenance you pay is based on current income, you must tell the CMS within 14 days if your income goes up or down by 25 per cent or more. You may wish to contact CMS directly to find out more.
Kath 17/09/2017 at 11:18 pm
Hello I wondered if anyone can help me, my current parters ex is claiming that her son is his, his name is not been put on the certificate because he is not interested for reasons I understand completely, she has said she can get £400 of him a month even know there is no proof the child is his. Can he refuse a DNA test and leave it at that or is there more too it? They where not married or even together at the time.
Andreia 17/09/2017 at 9:57 am
Hello

My boyfriend and me we are thinking to go live toghther but a friend of mine told me because he has 3 children with ex girlfriend and he is paying child maintenance every month, can happen goverment check my income too and increase for more money the child maintenance. Is this true? Thanks.
Kk 16/09/2017 at 8:09 pm
Evening. My partner has a son that is 20 years old and going to uni. He has been told he still needs to pay for him because he is in full time education. Just want clarification if he still has to pay for him or not. Can someone give me a straight answer please. Thank you in advance.
Lulu 16/09/2017 at 3:34 pm
Hi

My ex's maintenance payments have been reduced as he is now in a new relationship and his partner has a child of 6.The childs father is paying maintenance for this child so why does my ex have to pay less for his son?I do not think this is fair.

Thanks
Dunc 15/09/2017 at 8:13 pm
Hi.I currently pay child maintenance for my 3 children ages 7, 14 and 16 through a CMS agreement. I still find that I have to buy clothes for them, sports equipment, pay subs for sports activities, haircuts etc. My ex wife does work full time and received a very generous financial settlement. Any time the kids need anything they are told to ask their dad. Is there any way that I can pay the maintenance directly to the children or at least a portion to any of the older two? It is child maintenance it's not for my ex to spend however she chooses which seems to be on endless holidays and weekends away?
Stevie 15/09/2017 at 5:45 pm
Hi I'm looking for some advice, I have 2 daughters aged 18 years and 16 years I have been paying £155 maintenance per week for the last 7 years. My 18 year old daughter has been at college for the last 2 years my 16 year old daughter has a 2 year old son. My ex has told child benefit and maintenance services that both are going to college she has provided no proof of this and they have simply accepted this via a telephone call. I have been told that they are not at college and the 16 year old is claiming benefits for her and her child. Is there anything I can do I am finding it very hard to manage on the money I'm left with and don't see an end to this. If the girls were getting the money I wouldn't mind but this is not the case.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/09/2017 at 3:03 pm
Regardless of your ex's financial situation, you are still responsible for paying towards the day-to-day upkeep of your child. It does not become the responsibility of the resident parent's partner or husband to take on the financial responsibility of your child.
Dave 15/09/2017 at 6:52 am
Hi

I currently pay about 250 a month. I was planning on taking 6 months PATL leave for my new child with a new partner. Does CMS take this into account as my income would not cover the 250?

Thanks
Bob 12/09/2017 at 6:01 pm
Sorry, that should have read I signed the children's Child benefit over
Bob 12/09/2017 at 6:00 pm
I currently have my two children 3 nights during school term and 4 nights during holidays (as close to 50/50 as practicable).

I signed over both children to my ex when she left so she could access benefits and she had used this to force me to pay through the CSA.

There are minimal shared costs and we pay for everything separately, so I am essentially paying for all my own half of the costs and an additional couple of thousand a year on costs she should be responsible for.

What is my best avenue to stop this crazy situation?
SeparatedDads Editor 12/09/2017 at 1:49 pm
Child maintenance and child access are not related. Whether your partner sees his child or not, he is still responsible by law to contribute financially to the day-to-day welfare of his child. If he wishes to see his son, he would have to suggest his ex attends mediation in order to try to resolve any issues they have. If his ex refuses to attend mediation, then he would have to apply to court. He can do this whether he pays child maintenance or not. However, he may be subjected to arrears if he stops paying child maintenance if he is paying through CMS. Children are not seen as financial bartering tools. Therefore, child access and child maintenance are two completely separate issues that should not be confused. If the court thinks it is in the best interests of your partner to have access to his child, then the court will allow or not allow contact, regardless.
SeparatedDads Editor 11/09/2017 at 2:24 pm
Until her child benefit is officially stopped, then your partner must continue to pay child maintenance to his ex while his daughter is living at home. Unless, of course you partner pays via a family-based non-CMS agreement, then they should negotiate between themselves and his ex has no recourse to claim arrears if he chooses to stop. However, she can make a claim via CMS who will make the decision on whether he is to continue to pay. If he currently pays on the back of a CMS arrangement, then he will be subjected to arrears.
Heather 11/09/2017 at 2:06 pm
Hi my partner has a 7 year old son who he has not been allowed to see for 4 years he has paid a huge amount in csa and is still not allowed to have anything to do with his son and his son is also calling the exs new bf dad he has stopped paying csa as he was paying 120 a week for the past how long! He has now gone self employed with a new job what is his rights if he has as he's not allowed to see his son ! Thanks
Laura31181 10/09/2017 at 6:47 pm
My partner has a daughter who will be 18 in 3 weeks time. She has left school on completion of 6th year and had planned to go to college however this didn't work out. At the moment he pays maintenance money directly to his ex-wife. His intention is to pay this money directly to his daughter from now (given she's over 17 and not in full time education) however his ex-wife is saying he must continue paying this money to her. Any experience with this?
Dean 08/09/2017 at 1:52 pm
Hello

I have been paying £379 per month to my 6 year old Son's Mother for the last 6 years.

I have since married, and his Mother now seems to be in a stable relationship with someone else (they too have a son together), and they are now buying a house together.

On the assumption that he is now contributing to the living costs, should my payment decrease? (I would undoubtedly make sure my Son is covered financially, but I have to admit that I find subsidising their mortgage quite unpalletable...)

We're not talking a fortune, but any advice welcome.

Thanks
Pineapple 08/09/2017 at 1:06 pm
Hi, I have been separated nearly 3 years and divorced over a year. I have two children who stay with me 3 nights a week and their mum 4. I live alone, their mum lives with her partner. My annual income is less than that of mums (not including her partners income as well).
When I have the children I pay for their everyday needs/wants as does mum when she has them. Up until now any other expenses for the children have been worked out on a month by month basis between us. Their mum has always received the child benefit. However she is now wanting me to pay child maintenance. Because we share the children nearly 50/50 and also because I earn less, do I have to pay maintenance?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/09/2017 at 10:44 am
If you are earning, you will have to pay child support on the money your earning. You can see how much you should pay via whichYou will not pay child maintenance on incoming money via student loans etc.
Eben 07/09/2017 at 4:27 pm
Hi,
I am 40 and in full uni education. I work part time on 21 hrs a week and have my child every other weekend as well as a week day non overnight contact. Curently on less than £1000 a month in salary.

I will like to know if I am exempted from paying child support. If not what will be the approximate figure to pay a month.

Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 07/09/2017 at 11:08 am
Firstly, if the mother of your daughter is earning, you can claim child maintenance for your daughter from your daughter's mother. If you are on benefits, then you will have to pay a flat rate of £7 per week. By law, every non-resident parent is responsible for helping support their child's day-to-day needs. If your gross income is between £7 - £100 per week you have to pay a flat rate.
Castaway 06/09/2017 at 3:54 pm
I am a paying parent for child maintenance. I just received a refund from HMRC due to tax overpayment. Does that count as income and do I have to pay a percentage of that to my ex? Or is it the opposite? Not sure how it works with the tax. Thanks in advance.
bobajob33 06/09/2017 at 11:27 am
I am currently receiving carers allowance and a top up amount of income support. i have now been informed that i have to pay £7 a week of child maintenance to my x partner and son of 16, i am also a single parent and have raised my 14 year old daughter by myself and i do not and have not received a single penny from her mother.
Its not that i refuse to pay towards my son i have done for 16 years on the old csa deal its that i am struggling to live on the small amount that i get at this point.
I must also add that due to circumstances i have had to stop working, to care for my 90 year old grandmother. Basically the carers allowance pays for my travel to and from hospital appointments etc and really has no relevance to my total income.
should i have to pay the £7 week from my income support, which is roughly £40 a week ???
vicky982 02/09/2017 at 6:49 pm
Questions.
I am a disabled adult and my partner helps pay my way as I cannot work full time. We have our step son 3 nights a week and half the holidays, we pay for all transport, we provide all our own clothing and things for my step son.
My partners ex has just filled for maintenance and I am worried that they will not take my needs into account, as we are struggling at it is. Costs me £300 in medication and medical treatments a month and I cant even work to pay my own way without those additional costs.
Anyone had experience with this?
Andrea 02/09/2017 at 3:05 pm
Father has lived abroad for a number of years, and is now deducting maintenance for holidays had with him. Is this allowed?
SeparatedDads Editor 25/08/2017 at 12:15 pm
As a general rule a paying parent who is paying child maintenance on the basic rate will pay 12% of their gross weekly income for one child. For two children, they will pay 16% of their gross weekly income and for three or more children, they will pay 19% of their gross weekly income.
ARL65 24/08/2017 at 5:15 pm
I am currently paying child support for 4 children.1 has now turned 18 and has left full time education. Will my payments decrease or will it stay the same with more money going to the other 3?
Tom^7 Editor 25/08/2017 at 10:20 am
@rob - the mother of your children would have to agree you have shared care in order for the CMS to believe you.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/08/2017 at 11:20 am
As we are a UK-based site, unfortunately we can only answer questions on UK-based family law. We have no knowledge of the South African system so you would have to seek advice in your own country.
rob 24/08/2017 at 10:32 am
Hi.
How Do I prove to the CMS that I have shared care?
Thanks.
Tumi 23/08/2017 at 9:03 am
Hey I'm Tumi I'm 20 years old and still studying at university my mom has now deceased but my father don't want to help me with everything I'm asking him to.. He only pay R1000 for maintenance and I think it's not enough for my needs,what must I do increase the maintenance money??
SeparatedDads Editor 21/08/2017 at 12:02 pm
You can see what you should be paying by the amounts listed on the gov.uk site here and here . You might have to prove you are in receipt of benefits before CMS will register your change.
yankeeste 19/08/2017 at 10:23 pm
Hi,

Hopefully hoping somebody can help me with the right advice,
I rang the CMS this morning to inform them that i had been sacked from my job and that i won't be earning any money whether by wage or benefits for the time being.

I presently pay direct to bank of childs mother.
Now because i am not earning any money at all the CMS say i will still have to pay something and they would be in contact with childs mother to see if she would be willing to accept less money for the time being.

But the thing i'm confused about is how can i pay any money if i am not receiving any money in the first place and why are CMS so adamant that i will still have to pay money to childs mother when i won't have any money until i get another job .. They said i will end up getting extra charges if i don't pay but they just kept going on and on even though i repeatedly told them i won't have any form of income.

I don't know what to do .. Hoping somebody can help me on here with correct advice .. Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

Ste.
EnquiringMrsH 19/08/2017 at 2:19 pm
I am on support group disability based esa, my husband is on my claim as a change to my benefit as he is entitled to working based esa, when we moved in together and joined our claim, they adjusted my income to cover him and closed his claim. but the claim is in my name and he doesn't have an independent income at all. His ex partner is now asking for child maintenance payments to start for the 13 year old he has with her. She has written saying the CMS have told her to ask for maintenance.
Does my husband have to pay her with no named income to himself?
Flow 17/08/2017 at 4:38 am
Hi my child's (age 4) father.. is requesting a contact order to be raised in order to have it around his own work and social life?? Over the 4 years I have solely raised our daughter... I have no family network and am joined at the hip 24/7 which people may think that's normal but it's been tough... so to get to the point it's now due course for him to reapply for his indefinite leave to remain... my problem is he is Now wanting to act dad role to secure his own future so he is after the minimum contact with daughter to gain this.. but for me even 1 day a week will be a shock to my child's system at first as I have always been highlighting his responsibility... what do I do?
Flossy 14/08/2017 at 5:03 pm
I've been paying maintenance fora number of years and the maintenance is only based on my primary employment, I work a second employment as a retained firefighter and because of the nature of the job it isn't taken into account when calculating maintenance as the government don't want people to stop volunteering for these posts. I asked the CMS phone operator to confirm this was still the case and the guy had no idea. Can you confirm the governments position is still the same and those earnings are not taken into account. Thanks
Dave 08/08/2017 at 10:45 pm
My ex has decided my daughter can't stay at mine for the foreseeable future. I normally had her 3 nights a week but now I can have her when I want but not nights . I still want to have her but she won't let me. Do I have to pay more money or does it stay the same as it's not down to me it's her mum who's refusing
SeparatedDads Editor 08/08/2017 at 12:00 pm
If your partner is still paying towards his son's upkeep while at university, this must either be voluntarily or through a court order, as child maintenance payments usually stop when the child completes A-Levels. You don't say whether he is paying his son directly or to the mother. If he is still paying child maintenance to the mother, unless there is a court order that specifies he must do this, then he isn't under any obligation to continue paying her. If he chooses to continue paying, he can pay money to his son directly.
Tillie 07/08/2017 at 2:05 am
My partner did a deal when he divorced thst she got to keep the house and he got his pension.
he's still paying £500 a month towards his sons up keep.
He's 19 and goes uni but still lives at home.I understand that he should still pay travel to and from uni and his food.
Do you think this is too much.
I personally have told him thst he is paying for the new mortgage for tge new house she has bought.
Margret 01/08/2017 at 4:34 pm
Hi my ex hasn't supported his daughter for 4 years he was always letting her down he works full time and does some cash in hand jobs but he's only said about his full time Job he dont start pay in till the 28th August but he has aparently rung child maintenance and told them he will be pay in on the 29th as it's bank holiday his money goes in the day after I find that unusual then he had a tax refund of quit abit of money and told me he was goin to give my daughter 50 quid he took my bank details but now refusing aparentlt child maintenance has told him if he pays so much threw out the month it's taken of the payment they have worked out n the date they have worked out for him pay is that right? And should he have let the child maintenance no that he had a tax refund ?
SeparatedDads Editor 01/08/2017 at 4:08 pm
Unless agreed otherwise (with the mother), then you would be considered responsible for paying child maintenance to the other parent until your daughter finishes her A'Levels.
anon2001 01/08/2017 at 4:00 pm
I have been paying Child maintenance for 8 years. I have 50:50 shared custody (in reality i take my daughter more than 50% of time). I also contribute to all clothes, school trips etc, and take my daughter on holidays etc.
I was originally told (CSA) that her mum could claim off me because she claimed the government child benefit....though she doesnt now as she earns too much to claim child benefit.
My daughter now turned 16 and will be stopping on for A levels, can i stop paying her mum money and give the money to my daughter instead, at least then i know it is going on my daughter and not on an ex?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 01/08/2017 at 1:59 pm
In this instance I would run this by CMS. Child Maintenance Options gives free advice, You might also seek legal advice on putting a time limit on when the home should be sold. There are some people out there (I'm not saying your ex is one) who deliberately put off prospective buyers through the reluctance to move. Getting in touch with your estate agents to make sure prospective buyers are being encouraged may also help you
SeparatedDads Editor 01/08/2017 at 12:58 pm
Child maintenance and child access have no bearing on each other, meaning; even if a person does not see their child, they are still responsible for supporting them financially. If your partner's ex has stopped him seeing his child, his recourse would be to suggest mediation and if his ex refuses, apply to court. The court will then decide whether 'it' thinks your partner should have contact with his child, based on what the court thinks is in his child's best interests.
Shenry 31/07/2017 at 7:39 pm
My ex husband lives in our jointly owned home. It is on the market but so far no bites. He is refusing to pay any child maintenance for our 2 children because he says I'm still responsible for half the mortgage. So the money he should send me in maintenance he uses to pay the mortgage. He has been living there alone now for 2 years as he did not want to move out and for that reason I moved out with the children and back to my home town with his permission. He sees the children about 3 weeks a year (his own choice, i have never stopped him seeing his children).
He works full time but claims he cannot afford the mortgage payments and child maintenance. I on the other hand work as much as I can (my youngest is only 3) with help from housing benefit I am just about managing rent, bill, food etc but it's tight!
My question is after two years of living in our house alone can he really say I still have to pay half the mortgage and use the child.maintenance to do this? I feel like he's screwing me big time. I pay more rent on my little house than he pays for the mortgage on our lovely big family home and I'm also being left paying everything for the children plus I can't work as much as him because I have the children 100% of the time except the 3 weeks a year he has them to stay. It's been 2 years now and I think I've been a complete mug!!
Nicole 31/07/2017 at 7:04 pm
My partners ex doesn't let him see his daughter ( for no valid reason ) can he stop child support until she allows him to see her? As he's paying a lot of money for a child he doesn't see.. not his doing
SeparatedDads Editor 31/07/2017 at 11:21 am
You can see how other children are taken into consideration which
Honey1 28/07/2017 at 2:08 pm
My lg's dad has another lg with another mum who he is also not with - 2 kids - 2 mum's in a relationship with someone else. I currently get £20 a week from him as he wanted to get extra money for his mortgage which he still after a year hasn't got; the other mum gets £25 3 weeks and £40 1 week. When I mentioned to him over a year ago that he's not paying what the calculator says, he says he should only pay us £26 a week each anyway as he has 2 kids. Is this true as neither of them live with him or should he pay us the same amount as he would pay if he had 1 child? I don't care as I'm not about the money but was just interested to see what's right and what's wrong.
SeparatedDads Editor 27/07/2017 at 11:52 am
If you have a family-based arrangement, then you can negotiate this between you. If you pay child maintenance to your ex via CSA/CMS then payments will continue as they are based on an average across the year. You can see more about taking children out of the country whichIf you wish to challenge this, then mediation should be suggested and if your ex refuses, you may be able to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. As in all cases, the court’s main concern is the welfare of the children in question. The court will always put the children’s best interests first and this main issue will determine the outcome of any application for an order. However, if you wish to apply for a PSO, then you would have to apply in plenty of time for the order to come to court before the holiday is due to take place.
MumandDad 27/07/2017 at 12:08 am
Hi, this is complicated and wondered if anyone can help. My ex husband/Childrens Dad is an alcoholic who has been having £500 every 4 weeks child maintenance deducted from his wages. He has now lost his job due to his drinking but is being given a £26500 tax free payout to go and told me my payment for the Children will stop. He also receives a £300 per month pension and I've just helped him put in a claim for ESA as he is in no condition to find another job at the moment. I don't want to leave him struggling but i will be struggling myself and so in light of his large payment I have asked him if he will continue to give something towards the Children. He is reluctant to do this. Am I able to claim regular payments based on him having this amount of tax free money. He has said he isn't going to declare it to anyone?
Also, I am hoping he is going to take up a place in a detox then rehab unit, which he has been offered.This will mean him residing there for aprox 14 weeks. Will any payments I am entitled to still be payable during this time? Thankyou
Stevvie 26/07/2017 at 10:50 am
Can anyone help please, if a mother puts a claim in for csa but then has the child taken out of her care completely. Is it right to say that her claim with csa should be closed down and she shouldn't be allowed to claim the child support money as her own
Sean 25/07/2017 at 3:13 pm
Hello. I have two young sons whom I see every Sunday, except when I have to work (usually 1 Sunday in 6). Their mother is sending them to Poland soon to spend three weeks with their Grandmother. She is doing this without my consent, I agreed to two weeks as three weeks would effectively mean I wouldn't see my Sons for four weeks but she's made up her mind. My question is do I still need to pay their mother maintenance while my Sons are away as she will not be looking after them?
Paulieb 22/07/2017 at 11:25 am
My ex partner is not giving me access to our daughter but is claiming child support payments how can I get access to my child
SeparatedDads Editor 20/07/2017 at 1:51 pm
It would usually be August 31st, which is considered the official end of the school year and when child benefit will stop. If you have a family-based child maintenance arrangement, then you can decide between you.
Jacko 19/07/2017 at 7:35 pm
My son finished. A level collage in June 2017, and goes to university in mid September when do I stop maintenance payments to my x wife
Stuartb 18/07/2017 at 10:33 pm
Hi can someone advise me please.
My sons mother has told me she is moving to Sunderland my son lives with her at the moment in Birmingham which I see my son every weekend.
She has told me that if I want to see my son the I've got to drive 250 miles which is a 3.5 hour drive.
I've asked if she can meet me half way so I can see my son but she's told me no.
I currently pay her maintenance direct but can I deduct petrol money from the maintenance she gets as she is moving and it will cost both in time driving up there and petrol money I was told I can deduct 16.4p per mile but not sure if this is correct.
Any help would be appreciated thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 18/07/2017 at 12:21 pm
You have every right to claim child maintenance for your children. By law your ex husband is required to help pay towards their day-to-day needs. You don't say whether he is self-employed, employed, or unemployed, which will make a difference. Child maintenance is based upon the paying parent's income and the amount he pays is based upon the amount of income he earns, figures of which are accessed via HMRC. If your ex is unemployed, then he may be eligible to pay nil or base rate. If he is self-employed he is eligible to pay based upon his annual tax return. If he is employed the figures are assessd via his annual income. You can see what your ex should be paying via whichPlease note that child maintenance is not based upon the amount of income his current partner may earn or whether he can afford holidays abroad etc. You should only approach Child Maintenance Service if you are unhappy with the family-based arrangement you have in place and feel he should be contributing more.
Boobear 17/07/2017 at 6:34 pm
My ex husband has not paid maintenance in over a year, he got into a bit of bother with the law and has had "legal" expenses, however he is now in receipt of legal aid, he hides his earnings from me and lives with his new partner in a luxurious apartment, he sees his children both under 16 during school holidays and maybe the occasional weekend during the year, I find it very difficult to talk to him about paying toward his kids, after a long long discussion I managed to get him to pay £50 per child but that is all, I work full time and pay for everything for the kids. He is planning a holiday abroad which he claims his partner is paying for, I know this is a site for dad's but I'm hhoping a dad can advise me, I could go to CSA but it would start WW3, please help, I'm not being unreasonable am I?
SeparatedDads Editor 17/07/2017 at 3:52 pm
No. Child Maintenance is paid towards the day-to-day needs and welfare of the child.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/07/2017 at 3:40 pm
Your husband does not have to pay child maintenance for his daughter when she stops receiving child benefit, Usually child benefit is stopped if the child finishes college, moves out of the family home, and/or receives universal credit/income support (which she will be entitled to claim if she has had a baby herself).
Wrightyyy111 17/07/2017 at 12:28 am
Hiya,
Can my ex 'legally' pay CMS into a savings bank account for a child that can't be touched until the child/trustee turns 18?
Would would happen if this was the case?
The maintenance agreement has been set by the child maintenance service.
Thank you
julie 16/07/2017 at 8:04 pm
My husband is paying child support to his ex-wife for their 17 year old daughter. It is not collected by the CSA and the amount was agreed between them. His daughter has just finished her first year of a two year college course but she has just had a baby. His daughter and ex are reluctant to share any details of her situation with him. When he asked his daughter if she was going to claim benefits she replied "Its complicated"! His ex wife just doesn't answer the phone to him. We live almost 200 miles away but he has always maintained a good relationship with his children and has seen them regularly, but now she seems to be shutting him out. We have heard from other family members who live close to his daughter that she plans to take a year out of College and is moving into a rented accommodation with her boyfriend. (Who is 16 and just left school with no job and little prospects. Big question is, does my husband have to continue to pay his ex wife to support their daughter if she herself is now a mother and we assume is claiming child benefit at the very least. Does it depend on whether she continues to live with her mother, and/or if she continues with her college course? How can we find out if she is claiming benefits?
Dixie 13/07/2017 at 9:23 pm
I've paid for my daughter ,she is now 19 ,she is disabled and went to a special needs school ,now she is going to stay on and go to a special needs college ,do I still need to pay her mother
SeparatedDads Editor 13/07/2017 at 2:26 pm
If you have a family-based arrangement then you should agree this matter between you. If your child maintenance is not organised via CMS, then she cannot officially apply for arrears payments.
Saparrot 12/07/2017 at 6:19 pm
My 3 children stay with me every Friday and Saturday . Pay ex partner £265pm .was unemployed for six weeks. Now im back to work on minimum wage she wants back payment of the minimum of 4weeks money . Told her i cant afford it. Do i have to give her back payment when i start work . Shes driving me mad.
p 09/07/2017 at 11:30 am
hi my daughter will be 18 this year and currently has a part time job working Fridays, Saturdays and sundays. she goes to college Monday to Friday. her mother is supposed to work 16 hours per week but often works more. at what age can I stop paying maintainace?

thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 07/07/2017 at 10:10 am
You would generally pay until child benefit stops at the end of the school year (if she finishes college) which is August 31.
Wrighty 06/07/2017 at 10:12 am
Hi,
I have 3 boys who have been staying overnight at least once a week with me since April. I contacted the child maintenance service to inform them of this and the said they would contact my ex to get her to confirm this. I received a letter from the child maintenance service saying they could not accept the changes to the shared care agreement as there is no court order in place. I applied for a court but the judge dismissed my application because I could not commit to every other weekend, I could only commit to 50% of the weekends. I sent my ex an e-mail saying from the start of the next school year I will see the boys on alternate weekends and have asked her to confirm the new arrangement but I am yet to hear back from her. Is there any other way to prove to the child maintenance service that the boys stay overnight? I have considered informing my ex that as the boys stay overnight at least once a week I have worked out what I should pay her using the child maintenance calculator on the official site so from the 1st of October I will only pay her that amount. She can the take the rest through collect and pay if she wishes.
hornet17 06/07/2017 at 9:13 am
Hi , my daughter is 18 in November but im not sure what she's doing work/education wise. If she has finished college to apply for uni do i still have to pay until she goes to uni?
Takinthemick 03/07/2017 at 6:58 pm
Hi, I have a son that repeated second year of A-levels making him 19. He now wants to go to university and is being heavily encouraged by his mother to go. I think this is partly to do with asking for maintenance for the next 3 years. The relationship between my son and I is astranged and I don't think he should be going to uni, particular to do the course he wants as I think it will be a huge waste of time and money. For my son, the attraction of university is the excuse of not working for the next 3 years. My question is, do I have to pay child maintenance for the next three years, and if so, who gets the money as my son won't be living at home cone September, he'll be in halls of residence?
Neil 03/07/2017 at 3:23 pm
My daughter goes to Uni November 2017 (She is 19 Dec) My Son is 16 and lives at my house now over half his time. What happens with Child payments made by me, do they stop?
Hmmm 01/07/2017 at 9:28 am
I have my 2 daughter's for about 4 weeks during the school summer holidays. Do I still have to pay csa to the mother when they are in my care?
Lou898 Editor 04/07/2017 at 3:50 pm
@Kellbell42 - The father will just have to put his foot down with his daughter, she doesn't need to stay at friends every weekend and at 15 she is still young. The thing is she doesn't stay with the mother either at the weekends so why should the mother try to claim child maintenance? It sounds to me as though the mum is just trying to get the dad to shape up and be responsible and it sounds like the dad is letting her stay out for an easy life!
Kellbell42 30/06/2017 at 9:27 pm
Asking for a relative:

Mother and father split two years ago. Two children stay with father every other weekend Friday to Monday and every other Monday in between.

The teenager goes out with her friends every weekend and sleeps round her friends which means the father doesn't get to see her. This is upsetting for him but at 15 years old, he can't lock her in the house.

The mother is now saying that if she doesn't stay with him on his weekends (the other child does stay with father on his weekends) then she is going to contact child maintanece to get more money. It's all about the money with her unfortunately.

I don't know where I will stand with child maintenance, I want her to come and stay but she is more interested in her friends. I can't afford to pay more maintenance. Any ideas anyone?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/06/2017 at 3:18 pm
I'm afraid there is little we can do to advise here due to the complexity of the situation and the fact it is already in the hands of CMS. We are purely a general guidance site and cannot comment directly upon specific cases.
SeparatedDads Editor 29/06/2017 at 12:45 pm
Child maintenance and child benefit will officially stop at the end of the school year when your daughter finishes the course (August 31). You are not eligible to receive child maintenance if your daughter is taking on a paid apprenticeship.
spotless 28/06/2017 at 2:20 pm
My husband has been paying regular monthly payments for 2 children aged 13 and 17 since he separated from their mother. We used to pay through the CSA and now we pay direct to the mother through the Child Maintenance Service.
During the time we were paying through the CSA we accrued some arrears due to a dispute that we did not win. We made arrangements with the CSA to pay extra per month to bring the arrears down and then the balance of the arrears was passed to the Child Maintenance Service when we transitioned to them. Although we were never given a specific amount to pay off the arrears when we went to the Child Maintenance Service, we made extra payments on top of the maintenance agreement that they requested.
The Mother has now asked for an arrangement for the arrears and we are happy to pay the amount requested providing they knock off the arrears we have already paid. We have provided bank statements showing the extra that we have paid over the last 14 months. This is currently being dealt with.
Our problem though is that the 17 year old no longer lives with her and hasn't done for over 18 months. For some of this time, he lived with us, and then he moved into sheltered care with the Social Services due to bad behaviour. It is only now that we have realised that we have still been paying her for him. When we wrote to the Child Maintenance Service, they contacted her and she has lied and said he only moved out of hers at the beginning of this month. Now 'we' have to prove that she is lying. However he has also left full time education without employment or any form of further education, so should we still be paying for him if she isn't in receipt of Child Benefit? If we can prove that he hasn't been living with her all these months, can we reclaim some of our payments back?
We have regular contact with the Child Maintenance Service, but speak to someone different every time we call them. No one seems to care about what we have to say, and although she's lying to them, we are the ones that are treated badly and have to prove she is. We have never shirked our responsibilities to these children but now wish to get some justice for the fact she is taking money off us when she doesn't deserve to do so. Please help.
Angel 27/06/2017 at 7:45 pm
Hi, I wanted to know when maintenance stops for my daughter. Shes just turned 18 and has finished college, but is doing an apprenticeship this October. Would I still receive maintenance off her dad or will it stop.
Yours kindly.
SeparatedDads Editor 23/06/2017 at 2:45 pm
If your son is earning a wage from his apprenticeship and if you pay through CMS, then your payments will stop once child benefit stops.
Rocketman6783 21/06/2017 at 5:26 pm
Hi, I have an 18 year old son who is at college studying on an apprenticeship. As he will be at college one day a week and getting paid on the apprenticeship do I still have to pay maintenance for him? I divorced from his mother in 2014 and have paid regular maintence every four weeks for him and never missed a payment. Please advise me as to my rights to stop making the payments to his mother. Thank you for your time, help and advise.
SeparatedDads Editor 20/06/2017 at 4:08 pm
If your son does not have overnight stay, then it is likely that CMS will account for him not having his child overnight. He can find out via the CMS calculator here.
gran 19/06/2017 at 4:01 pm
My son's child needs 24hr awake care, at night from 10pm-7am carers come in to care for her. My son has the child 3 afternoons a week from 1pm then hands her to the carers back home at 10pm and The mother is often out. How will maintainance be awarded as the carers will not come to his flat for over night stays and he has to work.?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/06/2017 at 3:04 pm
Child maintenance is paid to the resident parent for the day-to-day support of the child. Unless the resident parent agrees otherwise, then the paying parent would have to continue to pay child maintenance directly to the resident parent.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/06/2017 at 12:49 pm
I am sorry to hear this. By law, all fathers are responsible for the day-to-day financial care of their children regardless of whether they see them or not. With regards to your ex, you can still apply to court to see your daughter now the charges have been dropped.
Chris 18/06/2017 at 12:52 pm
Does csa have to be paid to the parent or can it be put into a bank account until the children are 18 in which they would then receive it then
sidd 16/06/2017 at 8:49 pm
I took my ex to court to get exess for my Daughter. wich I got she did not want me to be in my daughter's life.she did everything in her power to disrupt the contact. in the end she took the child to the police and she told them that I raped her. it was investigated and the cases was dropped.I have not seen my daughter in 15months.her mother has ailienated her from me social services will not recognise that she is mentaly abusing her.and I still have to pay csa.I think this is wrong because she is intentionally doing this.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/06/2017 at 12:58 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course or until they turn 20. Child maintenance payments stop when child benefit does, which is generally the end of the official school year, August 31.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/06/2017 at 12:53 pm
If your potential child is 20 years-old, there is little the mother can gain in the way of child maintenance at this stage in his life. Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then maintenance payments continue until the child finishes the course or until they turn 20.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/06/2017 at 10:16 am
This is a tricky question to answer and advise what to do in these circumstances, as the judge will really look at the bigger picture and not the discrepancies. The bigger picture is that a judge will not object to a person moving the family out of an area, as long as the non-resident parent still has access to their children. A judge will step in if he/she thinks it is not in the children's best interests. However, the finer detaills of who takes the child to school on the first day is not really relevant. If your partner wishes to appeal the decision, I can only suggest he takes legal advice. But if he still has regular access to his children as a result of the move, then it may be difficult to take this back to court. Only if the resident parent significantly reneges on the court order will your partner be able to apply for an enforcement.
Baldy 13/06/2017 at 7:11 am
Hi
My partner went to court in regards to his ex moving away. There were many discrepancies in he case of which we could have appealed but couldn't afford it. She has permission to start the two children in a new primary school this September in their new area. However having spoken to the eldest girl it is assumed the new house is not able to be moved into until October. Which would mean they have to rent this summer and rent now to get the address for the new school- one argument she used in court is that one child needed stability as she claimed they were being assessed for a form of autism- this was later shown to not be the case - even though dad had said this. Unfortunately despite many emails about the move the school and the eldest girl who enters year six and will be looking at secondary schools- they have money to pay for an independent secondary school but it's not guaranteed and hence dad wants to look at other schools. The problem is she has not addressed any of the questions he has asked. Even the one where he will take the children with his ex on the first day of their new school. It's as if out of sight then out of life. What can he do about this as he has PR and not her new partner. Do we need to go back to court to ensure she responds to questions linked to health and education
Mat 08/06/2017 at 10:01 pm
Hi, I was wondering how much information my sons mother would have about me if we go through the CMS. We currently have a family arrangement but recently she has said she doesn't trust how much I tell her I earn. I would show her a payslip but she has a history of stalking and I don't want her to know where I live or work but I don't want my son to go without either. Would the CMS tell her my details?
Daz 07/06/2017 at 6:44 pm
My son has lived with my mother since age of 15 he is now 18. I have paid maintenance the whole time and my ex wife hasn't contributed. At 16 he enrolled and dropped out of two college courses. Unknown to me until he was 18. I paid maintenence the whole time. My mother found out he she had to pay full rent so is making him enrol for another course in September. She won't tell me the name of the course and of course they won't tell me if he's attending. All I know is its novo training. I've never had a problem paying but the lies has put my back up and I feel one he doesn't want to work and 2 she doesn't want to lose benefits. Where do I stand what should I do.
Lol 03/06/2017 at 8:38 pm
Hi my dad pays child maintenance for me to my mum. But if I move out does the payment still go to my mum or me? I'm entitled to money til I'm 20. Please help
Ben 03/06/2017 at 4:19 pm
Hi, my son is no longer living with his mum, and hasn't been for the past two months, he living with his friend now. Do I still have to pay his mum? Because I've been told I can't do anything till September.
Carlyle 02/06/2017 at 7:54 am
In my divorce papers, maintenance for my son should carry on until he reaches 18 or leaves full time secondary education - whichever is the latter.
My son is 18 and is currently sitting his A Levels.
Can anyone please confirm if maintenance payments end in September this year?
poochibabes 02/06/2017 at 3:08 am
I wanted to gain some quick advice. I live in another country, however there is a woman that has recently accused me of being the potential father to their adult son (20 YO). I have been more than accommodating and willing to do a paternity test and when I arrive back in the country for a holiday I shall be taking one at my earliest possible convenience. One of my siblings has already taken the test which came back as inconclusive . Out of interest as this is the first I have heard of this what is the situation regarding CSA payments? What is this person trying to gain? Any advice would be appreciated.
warrenc 01/06/2017 at 2:58 pm
Hi can anybody help, my son is 17 and started work last August, I am still paying CSA do I still need to pay as he is in full time employment. I was happy to pay and have continued paying however my ex has called demanding higher payments.
warrenc 01/06/2017 at 2:36 pm
Hi can anybody help, my son is 17 and started work last August, I am still paying CSA do I still need to pay as he is in full time employment. I was happy to pay and have continued paying however my ex has called demanding higher payments.
Karen 31/05/2017 at 4:39 pm
My stepson turned 18 in April and now left College and finishing his a-levels exams. He still lives at home. He doesn't want to continue in education but get a full time job.
We have just given the mum a months notice so payments will stop in July, she has kicked off and doesn't want the payments to stop. Where do we stand?
SeparatedDads Editor 31/05/2017 at 3:03 pm
If you live in the UK, you can approach CMS, and name the child's father. CMS will then trace your child's father and request child maintenance is paid beginning from the time you claim (you cannot claim retrospective payments). If your son's father denies he is the father, then it is up to him to request a DNA test to prove otherwise. In the meantime he will have to pay child maintenance to you until and/or unless the test proves he is not the father. If you wish to approach your child's father another way i.e through social media, that is at your discretion.
SeparatedDads Editor 31/05/2017 at 2:33 pm
Even with child maintenance enforcement orders, you must be left with at least 60 per cent of your net income. Your net income is the money left after you've paid tax, National Insurance, and other payments taken from your gross income, such as pension contributions, Please see gov.uk link here to appeal or complain.
SeparatedDads Editor 31/05/2017 at 10:16 am
Much depends upon yours and your ex's financial circumstances (if payment is organised via CMS). If you have a family-based arrangement it can be organised mutually. However, just because you have one child and your ex has the other, doesn't necessarily mean child maintenance becomes a quid pro quo. You could try the CMS calculator here. Alternatively, you should contact CMS directly for advice.
Jenjen 31/05/2017 at 8:53 am
Hello all, I have a question my case is different when I fell pregnant had my baby and then my partner left me when my son was three months old because of his immigration status was pending and other issues so he is ware he has a son. I didn't know of him until recently I found him on Facebook it has been 16 years my sons age and and now I've found him he is in London and as far as I imagine he should be a British citizen by now. My son doesn't have his fathers surname, his father is still is not aware that I have found him, I even know where he works, I want to know first how can I approach him and let him know about his son? If he denies that he is the father what can I do about it?
Can I claim any child support still and what is normally the procedure how will I be able to claim Child support?
If he refuses to see my son or accept that is his son can I still apply for child support? I only know his name and date of birth not sure if his date of birth is correct and where he works nothing else! Which is why i couldn't find him before. He is already married and has a new born baby!
If anybody has any advice as to how I can approach him and let him know about his son ?
How can I claim for child support? If I don't have all his details and my son doesn't have his surname and if he refuses to accept is his son ?
The main this I want is for my son to meet his dad!
Mike 31/05/2017 at 12:33 am
3 years ago I was ordered to pay 160 a week for my 2 kids based on 2 full time jobs I had at the time. After a year I lost both those jobs and had to settle for a lower income job where I only make 225 a week gross. I asked the child enforcment to lower may support and they said no so after 2 years I am a little over 5k behind not sure what to do.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/05/2017 at 2:22 pm
Unless 'girl number 2' made a previous claim on you through CSA or CMS, then she would not be able to make a new claim and request backdated child maintenance. She can only claim money from the time the claim is/was originally made.
Nezza 30/05/2017 at 10:36 am
I have been separated for over 3 years now and I have been paying child maintenance for my 2 children from the start. My daughter is going to move in with me full time and my son is staying with his mam. Do I still have to pay child maintenance for my son?
Sam 30/05/2017 at 10:20 am
How is it that mams get all the benefits and the maintenance pay from separate dad's ? Yet dad's get money taken from them even if thier on the living wage allowance so not fare .why is that ? N they wounder why they are do many single mother's out there kerching kerching for them , and for some poor father's can't even aford to pay thier bills because of thier really low income.
Max 29/05/2017 at 10:03 pm
Hi, I pay child maintenance for my son, by mutual arrangement, who is 17 and in full education. He is going abroad to work for the summer and then going back to college after he returns. Am I still liable for maintenance when he is out of the country and obviously not living with his mother. Thanks.
John 28/05/2017 at 12:04 pm
HI.
I have been paying child maintenance for my son who's is now 12 since he was Born as I separated from his mum before I knew she was pregnant (long story).
But at the same time I had got another girl pregnant. I asked the Girl No2 if she wanted to make a payment agreement but she said she didnt want anything from me (as I was going back to have a relationship with No1) she then moved away. 11yrs have passed and i've just come back into contact with No 2 and we are planning to make arrangements so i can be part of my 2nd child's life.
So my question is can girl number 2 request back dated Child Maintenance for 11 yrs? and would it affect the payments to girl 1?
Danny 25/05/2017 at 6:36 pm
Hi

My ex refuses to let me see my children, and also will not speak with me about the children or child maintenance

She also reports me to the police if I try and get in contact. I left her due to her cheating

Is there any help out there with out going to court
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2017 at 12:03 pm
I'm a little confused over your comment. Are you in receipt of child maintenance currently - but want backdated pay in addition? If so, you can only receive backdated pay from the time you registered the claim with CMS (if and where applicable). If you do not receive any child maintenance from your ex at all and never have, then you are entitled to claim via CMS, You may wish to speak to CMS directly to help clarify/answer your question.
Morgan 23/05/2017 at 5:17 pm
Hi my daughters dad hasn't seen her since she was one she's nearly 7 I haven't had any money from him since then can I get it back dated and carry on getting child maintenance he has a gf she has 2 kids and one is he's and he has another daughter he doesn't see. He also has mental health problems drug and violent he doesn't have any contact and I don't know if he's were abouts can I still get maintenance for her.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/05/2017 at 2:41 pm
Unless negotiated between you, you would not be able to reduce child maintenance payments if those payments have been assessed vis CMS. If you choose to send your child to a fee-paying school, then you would pay this in addition to your child maintenance.
Hos 19/05/2017 at 12:11 pm
My ex and I are thinking of sending child to private school. If I pay the fees, can I deduct part or all from child Maintenance payments?
AndrewG 19/05/2017 at 11:27 am
What can I do about my situation in which my former spouse forced me out of my own home by threats of death in August 2014.
She then divorced me in December 2014 only to be subsequently remarried in January 2015. I was paying for all four of my children up to October 2016. I refused to continue to pay as she has claimed child benefit, working family tax credit and over £1000 of rental income per month on three flats of which there is joint ownership.

She refused to comply with my ancillary relief request in January 2017, claiming that she cannot afford the court costs, yet now that the flats are in receivership she has as of yesterday 18/05/2017 made a child support claim for the two youngest children.

How can this be fair? I don't have access to the children, I don't receive anything for them, I was forced out of my own home so that she could be the receiver of child support and I would be the one paying it. She made no claim in the last seven months yet once the property is going to be sold and she has no control over the finances of it she can now claim child support what an abuse of the system, what can I do?

Please help me, please can you advise me?
SeparatedDads Editor 16/05/2017 at 10:45 am
Every non-resident parent by law is responsible for paying child maintenance if they are earning
Pete 15/05/2017 at 6:34 pm
If my 16 year old is leaving the Uk for 2 months to stay with relatives after her exams, do I still have to pay child maintenance to her mother who i know doesn't spend it on them? My daughter says she is going to college afterwards but I can't see this happening due to her behaviour at school.
adamgem 15/05/2017 at 12:38 pm
In 2009 when I divorced from my ex wife an agreement of child maintenance was put on our court order £160 per month per child(2 kids) now 8 years later after a verbal agreement to reduce the amount paid to my ex wife due to losing my job we both agreed in 2011 that we would both use the csa calculator to calculate the amount I needed to pay to her. I have always paid my maintenance according to csa calculator. But she is now saying the verbal agreement didn't happen and because we didn't legally change the court order I now owe her for child maintenance payments that were the £160 per child per month. Is she owe that ? As we agreed and both have used the csa calculator for years. How can she now justify this if we agreed to void the court agreement due to changes. Since that agreement I have remarried and had 1 child with my current wife this is causing us a lot of stress and we never reduced any of her payments after we had our daughter I've always done right by my children.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/05/2017 at 12:12 pm
If you use a statutory child maintenance service and you receive benefits, you will be expected to pay a flat rate of child maintenance. If you have a Child Maintenance Service case, the flat rate is £7 a week.
Paul 15/05/2017 at 11:40 am
HI I don't know if anyone can help but i'm on the old CSA scheme and have recently moved aboard to the republic of Ireland. They want to put everyone on to the new scheme and my account is up for renewal. I understand because I don't work for a UK company I don't have to pay CSA is this correct ?
John 14/05/2017 at 4:09 pm
My ex partner is charging me £100 a fortnight for our daughter for clothes school and trips but she is still wanting more money and I am only on benefits how much am I supposed to be paying towards my daughter?
BB 11/05/2017 at 4:04 pm
My Husdand has a wonderful son and has always paid every week for him by DD now he is 17yrs going on 18 yrs can my Husdand pay his maintenance to him as he is a car owner and driver has a part time jod and at college Classed as full time . His need is greeter then his mums he has always paid for school trips photo etc we paid for his driving test and given him a £1000 towards the insurance . His mother has lost the plot and saying she will claim CSA from years back when he was 6 . Can she do that ? she did put a claim in at 6yrs then drop it and they agreed a weekly payment . Which was fine but now like I say she has lost it and we keep getting texts saying what she,s going to do . Please help we want to do the right thing by him not his mother.
Rob" Editor 03/05/2017 at 11:59 am
@Sando - most families in situations such as this would agree to a shared care arrangement, but some ex's want as much as they can get. I can understand if she's not working and is taking on the lion's share of looking after your child and can't work because of the logistics of being the primary carer so are financially worse off, or if they are working they are paying for nursery and that sort of stuff. But not if they're working too and in exactly the same financial position as the father :(
Sando 02/05/2017 at 10:06 pm
Please help explain. I will have my son 3 nights a week (and additional times) My x-partner will have him ONE more night and will receive over £200 a month from me!
Why are Dads so mistrusted, stereotyped & discriminated against by Child Maintenance?
I am much more likely to spend money on my two year old son than his Mum & I am now left less able to due to the funds going to his mum....over £50 a week due to staying at his mums one more night!??!
Webbs 28/04/2017 at 6:53 pm
Need advice.My daughter left school aged 16 in July 2015.She has not attended any education or had a job since.Also now she is living with maternal grandmother not mother.I have paid child support from the beginning.I rang the CSA and the advice from them was even if my daughter wants to sit around until she is 20 deciding what she wants to do then i still have to pay.Is this correct ?
SeparatedDads Editor 28/04/2017 at 11:33 am
If named as the father, your partner will be considered the father of the child and responsiblie for paying child maintenance, unless and until he can prove otherwise. Please see CAB whichwhich will tell you all you need to know.
Dave 27/04/2017 at 8:39 pm
Hi
I am again being black mailed by my ex, she left seven years ago with my son. I paid her off to the tune of £30k, until her money ran dry everything was great with seeing my son.
We agreed on a monthly maintenance payment which was paid religiously.
Three years ago my job took me abroad, I continued the agreed money, I am trying to arrange to spend time with my son this summer and now been told she will not discuss any visitations until I negotiate more money for her. I have never been allowed to take him on a holiday abroad (he is the one missing out). I could understand if I was violent or an alcoholic. I am either.
I have a 20 year old, 18 month old along with my step daughter (her dad pays has paid no maintenance for the past two years) so I support them all, along with my wife who doesn't work as she looks after our baby.
Any advice would be gratefully appreciated. I have tried for years not to take this into a court room....I only want to see my son.
Confusedone 27/04/2017 at 5:41 pm
So my partner slept with a woman who also had 2 other guys on the go (before he met me) and she decided she wanted to be in a relationship with him so declared he is the father to her baby. The kid looks like his mate who was sleeping with her too and he told the child maintenance service he wanted a DNA test, paid for it and they screwed up the payment! Said they put it in a holding account then would have to refund it so he could pay it again and have the test. In the meantime he has just had a chunk of wages taken directly with no warning at all! Can they seriously do this? Seems mad that a woman can just say anyone is the father of the kid and the cms will just deduct payments without waiting for the test? What sort of crazy world are we living in? Can they do this? Cheers!
Klf 21/04/2017 at 5:54 pm
My partner doesn't work and I do I receive working and child tax. He has a daughter from a previous relationship because he is not working and iam the only 1 bringing a wage in and supporting his 6 year old son can the maintenace be deducted from myself?
Dannyboy 20/04/2017 at 2:37 pm
My son has been left college for a year and is working full time. He is 18. My maintenance payments stopped when he left college. He is now thinking of returning to college. Will I have to resume maintenance payments to his mother?
SeparatedDads Editor 20/04/2017 at 2:05 pm
Assets are not included in child maintenance payments, unless the paying parent is earning a living from the asset i.e renting it out. Child maintenance payments are based solely upon earnings and assessed via the amount of tax paid via HMRC.
Mich 20/04/2017 at 7:26 am
My ex is self employed builder who recently sold a property for £350,000 but has been off sick for a year now due to a drunken injury. He said as nil pay if I go through CSA route, I get nothing. He is an alcoholic and I have stopped access over night as he drinks evenings, as he doesn't like this arrangement I am now being threatened with solicitors and non payment. Will future payments be calculated on the house sale? He now got a girlfriend and booking holidays etc, I only want what's due for his daughter I have no feelings what he does and who with, please advise
Craig 19/04/2017 at 5:43 pm
I pay my ex each month on the 7th for my 2 children not through csa just what we agreed between ourselves I've recently changed job and will now have to pay her on the 17th due to my payment date changing my ex is claiming I have to pay her an extra 10 days of support money next payment because I'm having to change the date by 10 days even though I won't be missing any months payment just moving the payment date I don't think I should have to pay any more than usual as I'm just changing the date but still paying the same as before just 10 days later my ex claims I should pay for 10 days extra for the first payment then go back to normal where do I stand thanks for your help Craig
Anita 18/04/2017 at 4:23 pm
Hi,

My daughter conceived whist out of the uk (in the caribbean). The child is now 5 yrs old.
Can she collect child support from the child's father?

She lives in the uk with my grandson.. but the father lives in the Caribbean.

Can she collect child support from him ?

Anita
SeparatedDads Editor 18/04/2017 at 11:02 am
You can see more whichwhich should answer your question.
totalimmortal 17/04/2017 at 10:22 am
Hi. Myself and my ex wife have an arrangement regarding our son's care whereby he stays with her on a Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, and the rest of the week he is with me. She often doesn't have him for the full 3 nights because she's too unwell (mental health problems), leaving myself of my family to step in. He's technically with me Thursday to Sunday, although on a Friday he usually stays with his nan (her mother, who she doesn't speak to) so technically he's still under my care (if there are any problems or whatever while he's at his nan's, it's me that is called and steps in). I'm a nurse and I work shifts, so occasionally he'll stay at my mum's or she'll have him until bed time then put him to bed at my house (I also have 7 month old twin girls with my current partner, and it's a lot to ask her to have all of them and put them all to bed on her own if I'm working late). Also, after we split up, for a long time she didn't have him overnight at all, and would only take him out a couple of days a week and return him to me. I currently don't pay her any money and she pays me nothing, as I feel that he's under my care more than hers, and she doesn't work and is in receipt of benefits. She periodically threatens to open a case with child maintenance, but hasn't done so yet. Just wondering where I would stand if she were to do so? Thanks
Burt 15/04/2017 at 10:58 pm
Why do child maintenance services calculate your payment using your P60 and include my company car as an income. This increases my earnings in their calculations by £8000 which takes me into the higher earnings bracket. Surely they should only use my monthly gross income. I've argued with them on the phone about this and they just laugh and say that's the way it is. It's a joke surely there is something I can do so they don't take this into account. I'm now paying £120 more a month than I was paying with the csa please help...
Shaz 14/04/2017 at 5:43 am
Hi
My partner pays for his daughter who is 16 she started college in January full time but has also started a part time job 12hrs a week wouldthis affect his payment ?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 12/04/2017 at 3:00 pm
No, your son will still be required to pay the same amount, as his ex's partner does not have to take over any level of financial support for your son's child. Child maintenance is based solely on the paying parent's income - not the primary carer's circumstances.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/04/2017 at 12:25 pm
Child maintenance is only paid up to A-Levels and the equivalent and ends when child benefit does. If both your stepdaughter's parents wish to continue to support her, then this is at their discretion. However, your stepdaughter can actually also take this matter to court to review. In some divorce settlements provisions for child maintenance can extend to univesity (full time tertiary education) which is limited to the first degree. This means a judge will extend child maintenance until the end of university study if it thinks is is in your stepdaughter's best interets and if she can prove she is in financial need. Therefore, it is always useful if parents can agree between them on how they are going to support their children through university.
Shelly 12/04/2017 at 11:05 am
Hi, my son and his ex have a daughter who lives with her mum. My sons ex is now expecting another baby by her new partner and he has moved in with her and my my sons daughter. Will this affect how much child maintenance my son has to pay?
Worried parent 11/04/2017 at 7:54 pm
Hi my stepdaughter has just moved in with us. She was living with an auntie and my husband and her mum both paid through the csa directly to the aunt. She is just finishing her A levels and has a place at uni in September. She will also turn 19 in September she is confident she will live off the money her mum and dad was ordered to pay by the CSA. But my worry is will she still receive money now she going to uni from her mum as I was not sure if this counts as higher education?
And what happens in her 2nd year as she would be 20 years old is she entitled to anything as I thought payments can stop at this age?
Kind regards
Solder 07/04/2017 at 2:13 am
Hi , my ex has been on the suck for 2 weeks , he is self employed and has now stopped my £16 a week a month after as he says he doesn't have to pay it. But he is now back at work
SeparatedDads Editor 06/04/2017 at 2:35 pm
I can only suggest in this instance, your wife takes advice via the Child Maintenance Service, as much depends upon personal circumstances. But if your wife is not working and her ex is, then he still may have to contribute an amount to help support the daughter living with you.
Rab 06/04/2017 at 11:37 am
I have 2 children to 2 different women and pay both of them child support. How does this effect what I pay. Both women are demanding more money and they have threatened me with CSA but haven't followed through
Worried stepdad 06/04/2017 at 9:37 am
My wife has 2 girls from a previous marriage, and one has gone to live with him! He was paying for both and now stopped payments, saying they cancel each other out! My wife doesn't work and I know I'm not legally responsible for them so from what I have learnt she doesn't have to pay maintenance but he does with being in full time work is that true??
SeparatedDads Editor 05/04/2017 at 1:58 pm
Regardless of whether your ex has changed your children's names, if she has named you as the father by law you are still responsible for paying child maintenance. If you wish to apply for parental responsibility, you have to apply via court
Ric 05/04/2017 at 4:00 am
I have no parent responsibilities, to my 2 children. The mother changed my youngest name by Deepol to her new husbands name. Where does that leave me leagually paying child maintenance. Please help thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 04/04/2017 at 2:05 pm
If the non-resident parent threatens to leave her job to avoid paying child maintenance, you have little or no recourse as child maintenance payments are based purely on the NRP's taxable earnings.
Frustrated Dad 04/04/2017 at 10:02 am
Hi,
I have a 14 year old boy who lives with me and has done for a number of years. We have recently applied for child maintenance payments and the mother has threatened to quit her job so he doesn't have to pay.
What can we do about this?
SeparatedDads Editor 31/03/2017 at 11:51 am
Your boyfriend would need to contact CMS directly. Please see CAB link here for further advice.
Burnsy 30/03/2017 at 10:49 am
I have a 17 year old daughter with a previous partner who has since remarried.
I pay maintenance for my daughter but just found out that she has been expelled from 3 schools and is no longer in full time education.
So my question is do i still need to pay?
Chloe 30/03/2017 at 10:30 am
Talking on behalf of my boyfriend.
He has a little girl with someone else who is nearly 3 he has been going through the courts with her since she was 1 and still no luck. She claims child maintenance off him but we've now had a child. How do we go about putting down that he has a relevant child? As I know it effects her money.
Ub40 25/03/2017 at 10:28 pm
Hello i was having child maintenance took out my income support ..and child maintenance phoned me and told me it as now stopped but they sed it stopped in sept 2016 ..and its now march ..and inçome support have still been taking it put still sept..does anyone know what happens to the extra money wot i.paid over from srpt 2016 till march 2017 thanks
.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/03/2017 at 12:23 pm
Working tax credits and child tax credit doesn't count as earnings. Therefore they will not be considered by CMS, please see CAB which
Topbanana 16/03/2017 at 8:38 pm
Can my ex apply to have additional/increase to monthly maintenance payments made by myself for my daughter and amount set by CMS from child/family tax credits that my new partner and her 2 children and myself have been awarded to boost our monthly income, as my new partner works P/T, and I am on minimum wage. I would think this was incorrect as this sum has been awarded based on our annual salaries.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/03/2017 at 2:56 pm
No, her earnings are not taken into consideration.
SeparatedDads Editor 14/03/2017 at 12:23 pm
Please see CMS calculator link here which will allow you to assess how much you may have to pay. Please note, what your ex earns and where she lives and what she claims with regards to benefits has no bearing on what you will pay. The amount the paying parent must pay to help support their child, is based solely upon their income alone i.e what you earn.
Bobby 13/03/2017 at 4:37 pm
Me and my partner separated in novemeber, we have a baby girl born in may, she is asking for maintance. I earn 25k a year, she has currently moved in to new house on ber own as a single mother but is getting housing benifits I see her 1 day and that night a week, she has her the other 6, she is currently on maternity still but off back part time in junr, without going through courts, roughly how much per month would I expect to pay? I earn 1200 a month after tax and after paying mortgage, council tax, bills etc.....
Bodhappy now divorce 11/03/2017 at 7:18 pm
I have two children 13 and under I pay maintenance.
I have a girl friend living with me. Does her earnings affect the amount I pay towards my children?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/03/2017 at 12:42 pm
You would have to speak to CMS directly regarding this. However, it makes no difference to your payments if your ex is living with someone else or working full time. Child maintenance is based solely upon the paying parent's earnings.
Kev 07/03/2017 at 3:28 pm
Hi, I have divorced from wife. After 2 years I have my 2 boys overnight 6 out of 14, plus every other Friday from school until 6.30pm, 50% for school holidays and 3 extra nights on top of the 50/50 for summer holidays and extra school inset days.
My question relates to my ex living with her fiancée. She gets all the benefits, yet they both work full time, have a number of rental properties.
Am I able to appeal the CMS payments, or do I have to wait until they get married and/or will they not stop until boy are older? She is pregnant and due to give birth in 2 weeks - fiancée baby.
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 07/03/2017 at 10:14 am
As a rule in the UK you would pay 17% of your income over £100. However, this does not take into account other qualifying children (i.e if you have other children with your partner which will also be taken into account). Therefore, I can only advise you to see the CAB link here which gives you an up-to-date percentage table. This will give you a benchmark figure on what child maintenance figures are in the UK (but I can't speak for Australia as its level of assessment and calculations may be different). Please be aware, if it goes to court or via REMO there will be fees/costs attributed. It is always more agreeable all round if you can agree between yourself and your ex through a family-based arrangement, if you can.
Darren 06/03/2017 at 8:25 pm
I am not clear when, legally, child support payments cease. My daughter is in college and will be 18 this coming August. I pay more than CSM calculated value and this is an agreement my ex and I came to.
On top of this, I pay my daughter various other sums ... picket money, clothes, treats etc and have no issue with any of this. However, when she reaches 18, am I no longer required to pay child support to my ex and instead, can pay my daughter directly??
Jim 06/03/2017 at 4:32 am
I live in Australia. I have not paid maintenance for 6 years. My ex has got in contact with me for access and maintenance. She's asked for 15 percent of gross earnings before tax and if I was in agreement to put money away every month for our daughter for when she's older instead of paying her anything outstanding maintenance. I offered her 10 percent after tax. Iv said if she does not take that offer she would have to get a court order. What that be set here. I know there's remo which will be the Australian csa but she can do to options and I'm worried iv burnt my bridges a little I don't want to pay more than want it have offered. Also will they take school fees into account?
G 03/03/2017 at 3:23 pm
I have a nine year old child with My ex who had six affairs during our relationship finally asking her to leave to which she did after much deliberating at the time and she moved in with her new fella nearly four years ago and married about three . we ran three years shared parenting 4 days on four off until she went Monday to Friday and requested we have a different arrangement as she was missing our son to which I agreed. she agreed that she would never claim child support but I get the feeling she is building a case to start claiming. I am a single parent have my son one evening every week plus every weekend in three ( at her request ) the second weekend she has him and the third we share days

I have child benefit paid into my account every month and transfer her 50% of this on the same day payment is made to me ( she is now trying to get it paid directly to her would there be a reason ) . I am single she is married her mother has him three evening a week after school I pay for school club two nights a week. I am a responsible father pay for school clubs cloths etc when needed. Her husband is a high earning and she is average.

Am I likely to get stitched up or do I have rights and in a good position?

Help ? i just see where it is going
SeparatedDads Editor 02/03/2017 at 2:52 pm
You would have to contact the REMO centre regarding this matter. However, it is likely the court order would stay in place - unless there was new grounds for a variation.
Matty 01/03/2017 at 9:29 pm
I have a remo in place with my ex for our 2 children living in Germany. She is now moving back to UK. Will the remo stay in place or can she reapply for maintenance through the csa.
Does the court order overrule the csa
SeparatedDads Editor 28/02/2017 at 11:11 am
If your ex is working an earning a living and paying tax, then she would be required to pay child maintenance to you. If you haven't already, you should follow this up via CMS
Countvauntrap 27/02/2017 at 1:51 pm
I had a nightmare of hell for 12 years
I thought it ended in 2005 when the mother of my children left one night and didn't return.
I have full sole custody of all of kids. - I have never !!! Been paid a dime in child support in over the past 11 years.
A year after I became a single dad
- police came looking for me in response to numerous 999 calls made by my x claiming I had kidnapped her - held her hostage and attacked both her and the kids despite her not living with all of us for over 1 year
The next 4 years ., I was brought thru courts for 5 cases - each appealed eventually going to high court - All of which exonerated me and gave me as dad the continued full sole custody of my kids

I've re married recently - and eventually after 8-9 years at home full time with my kids I secured work driving trucks until I had an accident because of an unsteady load that i was not responsible for loading
Low of funds and not had child support My x has money but never pays anything towards the children.
Abusive rants online via her friend have suggested to me that if I need money it's my problem and I need to earn it and it's not her responsibility to contribute towards rent - school meals and other expenses for care of the children - she remarried - but sadly her husband passed away and she now owns a few properties and has funds but ain't contributed towards the children ?
Pete 24/02/2017 at 10:02 pm
I had an affair with my partners friend. Shortly afterwards this girl was pregnant. I asked if the baby was mine. She denied it was. She's put her partner as the father on the birth certificate. Never contacted me with any queries. However it still plays on my mind that the child could be. Me and my partner are now engaged to be married. (Partner knows) I'm worried that this girl might get in touch and demand money. What can I do if I have no idea if the child's mine. After the DNA would payments all have to be backdated? I'm worried because were saving up to buy our own house and wanting to get prepared for any road blocks.
Dad09 24/02/2017 at 6:00 pm
Hello I am almost divorced from my wife last few weeks to go before paperwork comes through . I provided evidence and it was proven and passed by the divorce courts of her adultery . Since I have vicious messages ( I have records ) of her saying I'm not the father of our child and that she's only using me for the money I have and that she knows who the real father is. This combined with the proof of adultery can I send all this evidence to the csa and I don't have to pay anymore ? Even if a DNA test is done surely it's down to her to pay for this ( I can't afford it ) concidering the evidence of txt messages and proof of adultery by a court ? I need help before I contact the csa as I really don't want more hassle and to go through paper work ect for no reason
SeparatedDads Editor 22/02/2017 at 11:52 am
He can certainly look at applying for travel expenses through a variation, Your partner can see how much he would be paying through the CMS via whichso this can be used comparatively. It is highly unlikely he would be allowed joint custody if he applied to the courts on the basis of financial reasons and likewise, the courts will not allow joint-residency due to distance reasons. Taking a lower paid job would possibly reduce the level of his payments, but it is all relative and he is not likely to be any better off financially if he takes this route. However, he is not liable to pay nursery fees if this is not included in the current court order, except if nursery fees are needed when his kids are in his care.
concerned 21/02/2017 at 5:06 pm
My partner and his ex divorced in 2015 with child maintenance agreed through a court order rather than an agency, he has never missed a payment and paid nursery fees on top of the calculated payment for two years? however now she has asked for a copy of his p60 so it can be reviewed as she thinks he should be paying more (he pays a large amount already). Can we decrease the payments by either:
- Him taking a lower earning job?
- Applying for joint custody?
- Going through the CMS so its a regular review so he just pays what he is told rather than more solicitors fees?

Also can he ask for travel expenses to be taken into account as he drives over 1000 miles each month to pick them up and drop them back off?
Tiredout45 21/02/2017 at 1:16 pm
My ex has challenged my nights over with my youngest son. Because of a bizarre calculation laid down by the tribunal the youngest is 155.124 nights and the eldest is 201.nights The CMS has reduced the youngest to 2/7 although the tribunal for the previous year took the average of the combined. If they want to reduce the youngest to 2/7 should they not increase the eldest to 50%
Jim 17/02/2017 at 10:49 pm
Hi, I went on paternity 2 weeks ago with my new child but didn't pay my 3 children from 2 previous relationships because of this. Should I back date for the 2 weeks I was off or am I not entitled too?
Johnda 17/02/2017 at 4:02 pm
Hi, I am paying maintenance for 2 daughters from previous marriage. The payments have been done through CSA before. I contacted my ex to agree direct payment not to go through new agency. I never missed any payment and girls coming regularly to spend weekends and holidays with us. However my ex ignored me and contacted CMS and the result is that I have to pay about £80 more. We are strugling with money as we have 3 years old triplets in my second marriage but obviously my ex did not care. I have to pay and always had to pay for all travel costs for girls to visit me. They don't live in the same city.
I don't really know how new agency calculates maintenance, why I have to pay more.
When do my payments stop for my older daughter who is 19 and finishing college in June, going to UNI in September. Do I have to pay over summer. She will vbe spending a lot of time with us and not her mother.
Thank you
John
SeparatedDads Editor 15/02/2017 at 12:53 pm
It depends whether you ex is paying via a family-based arrangement, or through CMS. If it is family-based, you agree between you when he pays. If he messes you about in this agreement, then you may wish to consider making the arrangement via the CMS. Then, he will fall into arrears when he doesn't pay.
Kellylou 14/02/2017 at 8:08 pm
My sons father is due to pay me my child support tomorrow but as just text and said he cant now til end of month can he do this or does he have to give me notice
SeparatedDads Editor 14/02/2017 at 2:50 pm
If you are not earning, or claiming benefits (when you would be classed at having to pay flat rate), then you will be exempt from paying child maintenance until you are in receipt of an assessible income.
Stuart 13/02/2017 at 8:25 pm
My wife wanted me to leave, so I did. I have 4 Children 10,7,3 and 2 who she has kept. I am currently unemployed as I took redundancy and have been living from that, but now looking again. I've moved away, can anyone advise me of what I need to do as its all new to me!

Regards
Stu
Jim 11/02/2017 at 5:23 am
I live abroad with my partner. I have never paid maintenance for my daughter who is now nine, because neither my ex or I could afford the court costs at the time. My current partner insists I make a contribution now I'm in a better position, and set up an agreement. If I make one with my ex do I have to include both our gross earnings as we live in aus, back dated pay for nine years and what's a general percentage to give each month. We have an annual income of £80000 for both of us and we currently have no children. I want it too be fair, I think if I offer my ex £200 she might just go through court and remo and I want to keep us from arguing. And she's been struggling for a while.
kingkeens 08/02/2017 at 12:26 am
My ex girlfriend left me and moved to the u.k with our child i lived in jamaica at the time there was talks of visits and nothing happened. I moved on and when i wanted to get married she said she wasnt able to send him. She claims she as sole legal and physical custody of the child. But refuses to sign documents saying so or provide something thats says so. Is there any rule in the u.k that can show me that this is true that she does have sole legal and physical custody. if there is so ide back off if not i want to fight for my child as im now living in the u.s .
SeparatedDads Editor 07/02/2017 at 12:50 pm
If you had a family-based agreement between you with no agency involved, then your ex cannot make you pay arrears. Only if your agreement was organised through the CMS, can arrears be collected. If the original agreement was made through the CMS and you paid outside this agreement, then you will be liable for arrears.
davedee 07/02/2017 at 1:12 am
When my wife & I split up we had shared care of our daughter so I didn't pay her maintenance but when I started seeing someone else she didn't want our daughter staying with me we came to an arrangement that I would give my daughter an agreed amount each month which I have been doing however she has now gone to the csa and has claimed for child maintenance for the past 12 months leaving me with a bill I can't afford to pay!
Can she do this even though I've been making payments to my daughter?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/02/2017 at 2:34 pm
As a rule, you would stop at the end of your son's school year, August 31. However, if your are paying through a family-based arrangement, you can negotiate between yourselves.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/02/2017 at 12:00 pm
Yes, every non-resident parent by law is deemed to be responsible to help support their child, regardless of what your ex's current partner is earning. He is not responsible for the financial upkeep of your child.
Mike35 05/02/2017 at 7:48 pm
Hi, my ex left me about 9 months age, she moved out of our house and is now renting, she never bothered me about child support money because I have my son over night 2 or 3 times a week, now since I got a new job with better money she has been saying she wants money of me, but she is now living with her boyfriend who is on more money then me so do I have to pay her anything.
Mac 04/02/2017 at 7:11 am
Hi, my son is 17 and just dropped out of college and is looking for work. We have always privately sorted out child maintenance payments with out the CSA. I'm just wondering where I stand with payment's to my ex now? I would like to give my son the money to help him tI'll he gets a job and unsure on when I have to stop paying my ex for him?
SeparatedDads Editor 03/02/2017 at 2:04 pm
You are still responsible for paying child maintenance regardless of where your ex lives. However, on another note your ex should have requested your consent to move out of the country (if you have Parental Responsibility). If you wish to follow this matter up, you should seek legal advice.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/02/2017 at 11:38 am
You would need to ask CSA directly as we are not party to its administration procedures.
Marts 02/02/2017 at 11:44 pm
My ex has moved to another country with my son and didn't tell me she was moving and now is telling me I need to pay child maintenance or I will go to jail. Can she do this? I had him for 3years and she's only had him a year.
Ross 02/02/2017 at 2:27 pm
Hi I have new arangment from child maintenence service from february and I just get letter from CSA that my arrangment with them finish on january but still need to pay more then £300 over two months. It is possible that I will pay twice for 2 months?I have direct debit before so all payments always been on time. Thx
Vivi 29/01/2017 at 8:48 pm
My ex left after being arrested for domestic abuse when my son was born. He started lying to people and then decided to go study full time so he doesn't need to pay any child maintenance. He hides his address and cut all contact so I don't know and do not contact child maintenance with his details. As he is studying for the moment the child maintenance can't seem to find any details about him.. they asked to wait and my son is now 3 yrs old.. and he is still not paying anything and is still studying from what I last heard. So what should I do next?
Miss daisy 27/01/2017 at 1:10 am
Hi I have a child with my ex I get 7 pound a week from cms out off his benefits I work and bring my children up alone he's claimed he has 2 children to someone else I no he's not on birth certificate for the said children but you have belived this from his the woman that phoned he wants to get a full time job and pay me pittance off 19 pound a week says if I don't cancel with cms he will add these other children on and not get a job so I will then only get 3 pounds a week instead off 31 which it says what he should pay me towards my child is this correct
Jay75 25/01/2017 at 6:54 pm
Hi just a quick question regarding my case.
My case was closed when my daughter was 17 and no longer in education. However it was reopened when she returned to education when she was 18. I have been paying her phone bill for years and so asked my ex to take it over now that I would be paying again, she refused. My daughter needs money for college now and yet my ex once again told her she wouldn't be giving any money to my daughter from this new claim. So because my daughter is 18 nearly 19 and no longer a child I took the decision to pay my daughter the money directly, she pays my ex rent out of this money and uses the rest for college.
My ex has now contacted csa and said I haven't made payments. I have evidence of all the payments I've made direct to my daughters bank account.
So I guess I'm asking surely as my daughter is an adult herself and money is intended for her why shouldn't I be allowed to pay her direct without the need to even involve her mum.
SeparatedDads Editor 25/01/2017 at 11:05 am
It depends who is considered the primary carer (i.e who collects child benefit etc) as the primary carer is the parent who will receive child maintenance. If the child is at the father's three nights per week, it is still not considered shared-care as one parent still has the child more. You can see how much child maintenance the primary carer could receive via whichI hope this helps answer your question.
Jo 24/01/2017 at 1:13 pm
Hi.. if a child went to his father's 3 nights a week and he paid for his child whilst at his house.. his own clothes.. toys etc.... should he still pay maintenance to the mother as the child is there for the majority and lives there as a main address.? Bearing in mind he works full time and gets paid well. Also the 3 nights is from teatime till morning so the child only really sleeps there and has tea.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/01/2017 at 12:22 pm
I'm afraid, in a word; no. Age 20 is the cut-off point for a resident parent to claim child maintenance in England and Wales for their child in full-time education, and 25 in Scotland (where a child can claim further education financial help directly).
Nic 23/01/2017 at 4:04 pm
My parents have been separated for many years, my dad paid CSA as I grew up when I was at school. However I have returned to education after 12 years, at the time when I left school the payments stopped. Being 28 is it still possible to claim off of my father, he had left when I was a young girl.
Concerned woman 21/01/2017 at 2:08 pm
Hi, I am concerned about the lack of campaigning against women who trap men into having children (flings and one night stands), surprised at women who get angry with their partners or exes and contact CMS just for money so they can go shopping. I'm shocked CMS do n outer consider debts and unpaid leave from work when asking for fathers to pay money for a child. I don't think it's right to judge a father who is not allowed to see his children and then cuts ties to them be forced to pay for a child when the mother is earning alot of money. I am deeply concerned that the mothers wages are never considered. It is a terrible system and I think is automatically discriminatory to men. I also think they onus on the mother to notify CMS when their child begins working is not strong enough so that she continues to get paid by a father who no longer should pay. I don't think one is a terrible dad for cutting ties with a child he did not want as the same goes for adoption and foster care. I don't think people who give up children are terrible I think they are honest and mature. I think men get bad reps too often when they are not responsible for the decision of a woman to keep a baby even if they use a condom. Its grossly unfair. I'm very balanced in the way I feel about this having seen both sides of the story. Women have it far better with kids than men and that's just fact. Hope the system changes. Personally I wouldn't use CMS and I wouldn't bitterly hunt down a man who doesn't want to be involved. I think women should go to jail for using their children as a pawn to fight their exes.
Von 19/01/2017 at 6:59 pm
My son is at college but also earns a wage does my ex have to pay maintenance? , my son earns 10.000 a year
dar 19/01/2017 at 7:48 am
Hi, just after some advive, i have a case open with the CMS for 1 child and i have a futher 2 children with my partner at present. which we live together and the relationship has always been a bit strained because of my ex partner and the CSA. In 2016 we dicided to seperate but cohabit and live in seperate rooms. we share child care and other tasks around the house. we dicided to cohabit due to financual reasons and less disruption for the children so not to distress them any further as fully seperating would be damaging for them and there schooling. This is working reasonable well and we each have our own time to pursue other relationships. my wife ( soon ex wife ) has tried to claim money through the CMS to help support the children as im also away from the properaty for around 3/4 nights a week due to work and other commitments. My wife wants more money to support the children and be more financialy indipendent from me, which i fully understand. We want to draw up a child matenance agrement that would be bindining but can be changed if there a variation in curcumstances however if we do this where do i stand with the CMS and my other claim against me. can i ask for a reduction in monthly payments, as i dont think the CMS will reconise our mutal agrement as we are still in the same house hold?
SeparatedDads Editor 17/01/2017 at 12:43 pm
I am afraid regardless of whether your ex has remarried or working, if you are earning you are still legally responsible for supporting your child financially. If you think you are being treated unfairly you can complain, You can also see whether you may be paying too much via the CMS calculator
SeparatedDads Editor 17/01/2017 at 12:09 pm
Most families have a set of clothes for their children when they stay at the respective homes. His ex is not required to supply them for their mutual children.
Zippy 16/01/2017 at 10:05 pm
Hi my ex has stopped me seeing my kids and I normally have them stay over 2 nights per week.how can I calculate maintenance if she is denying me access?
Stevo 16/01/2017 at 7:09 pm
Hi, my Csa agreement has now ceased and my ex had opened a new case with Cms, I'm a single parent, my daughter of 6 lives with me and I pay for my other daughter of 14, my payments have just increased by £90, per month and my wage has gone down, I'm in full time employment and juggle work and childcare, my ex wife is re married and both are working with no mortgage, this is putting a real strain on my finances,am I being discriminated as I am a male?? Is there anyway I can reduce the payments so my other daughter has a life??
Shizzybee 16/01/2017 at 3:26 pm
Hi me and my husband have been together for 6 years. He has 2 daughters to a previous relationship. They come from a Friday to a Sunday every 2 be week but ex has never sent them clothes. We have been buying everything for them from underwear clothes and shoes. She has now remarried. My husband still pays her 60 a week should he be doing this when we have to buy all their clothes and shoes?
Fee78 Editor 17/01/2017 at 11:57 am
@Katy - why not propose that she pays the 50% of term time and he lives 50% in each home during term time, and each parent covers the costs? There are no legal rights, it has to be agreed mutually unless one parent decides to take it to court to resolve the issue, then the court will cost!
Katy 16/01/2017 at 2:15 pm
My husband has been paying a family based agreement to his ex-wife for their 2 sons for the past 10 years. The eldest is now 19, has left school and is in his first year of university. Together we have analysed his outgoings, including accommodation, food etc to understand the shortfall after his loan - this comes to £480 per month. We now pay 50% of this shortfall directly to his son, with an initial agreement that his ex would pay the other 50%.

She has refused to make this payment is now arguing that we need to pay 100% of the shortfall as she needs to cover his costs outside of term time - he is free and happy to stay in either home. Financially she would have no difficulty making her contribution.

What is our legal position? Can we insist that she pays her 50% of the costs? Does she have any right to demand that we pay more than the 50%?
martie 13/01/2017 at 7:35 pm
Separated from the ex 3 yrs ago and been having the 4 children in family home over night 5 nights one week 3 nights the other until recently and paid her 500 a month when bought home just under 2 grand a month is this amount correct as she says she wants more even tho I was having the children more than her?
Ant 11/01/2017 at 10:06 pm
Hi

I have my boys 3nights a week and holiday works out exactly half a year. My ex has come to realise that she gets very little maintenance now if she stops me from having the boys and I've been told she can stop me and I'd have to take her to court over custody could she make me pay full maintenance despite its her stopping me from seeing the kids?

Also she doesn't drive so I have to do all the traveling can I deduct fuel cost for her half of the trips as I shouldn't have to pay for it all. Before I've tried to arrange her to collect them from me but she says no if you want the kids you have to do both?

Regards
Stickybeaks 06/01/2017 at 3:21 pm
Can you explain why the Csa/Cms disregard a valid court order for access when the pwc breaks it and they reward her financialy by increasing her payments. Surely they are complicite in the crime she is committing if they reward her financially by disregarding the over night stay my partner should have?
Also as the second family why in calculation are the nrp children worth less, why when my daughter wanted to go to college did cms payments not get recognised to help her get funding when that income doesnt come into our household, why is her right to education affected because i have a relationship with a man who pays cms??
SeparatedDads Editor 06/01/2017 at 2:36 pm
I'm afraid child maintenance is based upon earnings and if your wife's partner is not 'earning', then is is almost impossible to obtain payment. Your wife can apply to claim through the courts, but it is only worth doing so if it can be proved her ex is earning/has earned a significant wage that is registered via the HMRC.
Dannyo 05/01/2017 at 5:32 pm
Hi. I meet my now wife 14 years ago and she had 2 year old. The man in question has not paid any child maintenance from them until now (the child is now 16). Every time they can possibly get money off him he either leaves his job or moves! So in theory this bloke owes 14 years. how is it possible to get money off a person that hasn't got any. I believe he needs to pay something! The csa a rubbish in dealing with this. Can my wife take out a personal claim to the courts. Thanks. Danny.
Bindi 04/01/2017 at 11:16 pm
I split with my childrens father 8 years ago. He didnt pay child support at first but did continue to pay the mortgage on the family home for 6 months.. he has since had a child with someone else ..so have I. My 16 year old son has started an apprenticeship and earns £150 a week.. he goes to college one day a week.We had a family based agreement to pay £34 a week per child..until our children together turned 18.My ex now says that he can't afford to do this any more. Can I claim through civil court..the back pay from before the agreement?
JohnFloyd 03/01/2017 at 8:24 pm
I have family based arrangements set-up for 2 children, 1 each to 2 different ex-partners.
1 is 17 year old and had been attending college doing a mechanic course, of some sort. I've just found out that he has been withdrawn from the course before Christmas due to various reasons, mainly non-attendance after repeated warnings and chances. I'm disappointed, but regarding where I stand on the child support payment, I'm confused due to the amount of changes over the last few years. He is 18 in May, if that helps?

Secondly, my other child is 16 and after years of engaging with her and having a relationship with her, her mother remarried and has not allowed her to visit me or communicate, and has now convinced/manipulated my daughter that much that she now herself doesn't want a relationship with me, which is heartbreaking and also frustrating knowing I pay for a child I'm wasn't allowed to see firstly by the mother, now at the request of my daughter herself. Where do I stand on this?

Sorry for going on a bit.
sushu 27/12/2016 at 11:23 am
Hi
I'm wondering if you could help me. I have a few questions, because this system is totally new to me.
My soon husband to be pays csa for 2 children. (2different mums). The story is about the second child only.
1. The child has been taken away from the mum when their was 9weeks old and living with the granny (mum's mum), but the granny decided to apply for csa from the dad (my husband to be) only. I understand the granny is responsible for a day to day care at the moment, and gets a few benefit for the child, but how's possible only the dad has to pay for the child? Why only him? Why the mum doesn't have to pay if the child is not with her? Never!!!! She never gets the child home as she's not allowed to get contact without social workers. I absolutely agree the dad has to pay because the mum and dad not together anymore, but I don't feel it fair the mum doesn't pay anything to the granny.

2. If we get married with the children's dad, do we have to pay more csa for the children because it's more income?

Thanks a lot!
Nm 16/12/2016 at 11:38 pm
My ex tell the csa I have the children less than I actually do to get more money. Csa will only take a solicitors letter or her word. This is fraud but what can I do about it?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/12/2016 at 10:27 am
I can only suggest you either complain or appeal which
Sam 07/12/2016 at 1:51 pm
If I have paid child maintenance to deal with a claim because my child's dad decided to drop my payment which intact I've found out he should be paying me more then he 1st was and he's still paying a dropped payment so he's now telling child maintenance that we have a private agreement which I didn't agree to hence the reason as to why I made the claim what can I do do get things in gear one he owed me from csa 115 I put the claim in and paid the 4th of November I had my welcome pack but I've had nothing more since from child maintenance so I rang them this morning to find out that they have spoken to him they have calculated what he should pay and he has told them we have a private agreement which I did not agree to as I have said but he's still paying this small amount and when I say small I mean 11 pound a week when he should be paying 32.50 a week what can I do to get this money back he owes from the date he got he's welcome pack and obviously the money from previously
SeparatedDads Editor 01/12/2016 at 12:46 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course, or until they turn 20. If non of your children are still in receipt of child benefit, then you can stop payments and child maintenance payments officially end when child benefit ceases.
Scruffs 01/12/2016 at 11:58 am
I have 3 sons to a previous relationship. Currently my son's are 20,17 and 16. None are in full time eduction. The 17yr old was on a course which he stopped doing. The 16yr old was give a 15 wk course with the potential to have an apprenticeship providing he passed the course. He never attended. Where do I stand on paying maintained agreement made with the ex partner in 2003.the fact none of my boy's are in education or working?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/11/2016 at 2:15 pm
It is up to the parents to decide how and whether the money should be paid and it's not illegal to have the child cared for at home by a childminder. If your partner is in agreement with the arrangement, that is all that matters. If he disagrees, then he can either sort the matter out with his ex, or suggest mediation.
SeparatedDads Editor 21/04/2015 at 2:24 pm
@black eye - if your gross weekly income is £7-£100 you would pay the flat rate. If you want to double-check, you can do so here at the Child Maintenance Options calculator here. I hope this helps.
Black 29/11/2016 at 3:50 am
My soon to b husband pays child support and also pay's for his child to go to daycare how ever the child has been taken out of daycare since May and someone is now coming to the child's home to watch the child so my question is ...is that even legal ? Should my soon to be husband be paying for what he thought was child care to some one coming to the home to watch the child?
non 23/11/2016 at 11:07 pm
Hi
2 years ago i spit from my wife I left the marital home and took all personal debt with me and left the family in position . We splt care equaly for a year i recieved no benifits and worked harder to provide a second home for my 3 children. After 1 year my ex realised she could recive £570 pounds a month by stopping me seeing my children so thats what she did .
this caused me to loose my own home and ended up on my friends sofa and i no position
to have my children.
It took a few months and hard work to get back on my feet but i got there and she lets me see the kids every other weekend. I have had to make an application through a C100 to get the CMS to acknowledge that i actually have my children because she dosent want to loose any money.
I understand I have to pay but are there no rights for the father ?. Due to the amout of hours I have had to work to dig myself out off this situation I have to give her even more money now .It is a nightmare how am i ever expected to see my children if I am always at work to pay to keep my new home that i need so I can have them stop over.
please can you help as i seem to hit a brick wall at every corner is there anything i can do to even things up.
pennyjenny 21/11/2016 at 6:10 pm
Hi my ex partner has been giving me 40 quid a week chid maintenance for my two boys for 4 years through the csa . This so called father failed to let me know that he was working on the rigs (off shore) i have no correspondance with this man i pay for everything for the boys hair cuts clothes uniforms school trips' etc i also gave up my job to be my parents carer ive ad to skrimp and scrape for years to provide a home for my boys while their si called father has 3 holidays a year... now that i have informed csa of his real job would the father owe me back payment for the years he lied.
Pf 20/11/2016 at 9:07 pm
Hi, I've tried several sites but can't find advice for a situation like mine. 10 years ago I had a one night stand. No relationship, a regrettable, foolhardy one night stand. The girl fell pregnant and had a son. I agreed to a DNA test on being declared the father got my name put on the birth certificate. I tried to do things properly. I then received the csa claim. I have paid the full amount on time every month without fail. I have never been allowed to see my son, cannot afford solicitors. The girl is now married and has another child now. I still pay. I'm not an absent father, I didn't leave or abandon her. Yet I still have to pay. I feel over a barrel and don't know what to do. With the introduction of csm I suggested the girls husband adopt the child. Not unreasonable. Does anybody have any advice please. I'm at my wits end.
Pf
HRM 19/11/2016 at 1:06 pm
Right my fella pays CSA, he sees his daughter every other week, he spends 50 pound in fuel to drive down to see her, his mum has his daughter 5 days a week as the mother can't cope, he pays 200 a month to her and then she expects him to pay out for clothes and stuff. Also when she swans of on holiday he still has to pay her for the week she's away and he has her. HELP
Smarty 12/11/2016 at 5:07 pm
I need help. I am a retired military and in recent of my pension. As part of my divorce my ex gets some of my pension. Will the CSA take this into decision? Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 09/11/2016 at 3:05 pm
Your partner would need to take the matter back to CMS, When child benefit ends, so does child maintenance, so it would also depend upon this
pineapple 09/11/2016 at 1:38 pm
Can someone please advise.
My partner has been paying csa via attachment of earning for years no problem. At the beginning of year when child was still 17 he gave up college and went into paid training but still the csa continues. His son was 18 in September and decided to go back to college. .. He lasted 2 weeks. By now we had received a new letter saying my partner was liable for another year. His son then told us he was signing up to another paid training course.
Today we have found written evidence that he is receiving £ 1600 a month in benefits. He is claiming eesa, pip and money from social fund. This is more than his father earns in a month surely this cannot be right? Any advice
SeparatedDads Editor 04/11/2016 at 11:10 am
If your child has come to live with you on a permanent basis, then you would need to contact CMS to let them know the circumstances have changed
bellabella 03/11/2016 at 10:44 am
For along time now I have been paying child support plus arrears on top which has drained my wage at the end of the week. For a month or so now my child has now come to live with me at my home and will not be returning to her mother. I have been paid this week to find another chunk of money has been taken, why is this still happening when my child is with me. Can somebody tell me pls.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/11/2016 at 12:16 pm
If neither children are in full-time education or in receipt of child benefit you can withdraw payments. However, before you do, if you pay via the CMS then you would need to clarify this directly.
Headskin 01/11/2016 at 5:13 pm
Ive been paying maintenance for the last 5 years never missed a payment etc
My twins are now 17
Both have left school and education for different reasons
I've now found my daughter has got herself a 28 hrs a week job but no longer involves education
But my son has got a 5 HR a week cleaning job but he won't go to school or education
I'm now wondering if I need to carry on payments for both just one or neither
Can anyone advise please ????
annon 01/11/2016 at 12:36 am
My husband has always paid maintenance for his daughter in a previous relationship according to a court order made when she was two, stating he pays until she is 17yrs or finishes full time education, which ever is the later. She is now 17yrs and we have found out she's been working full time for six months earning £126pw. Her mother has been very difficult over her entire life and is impossible to communicate with and has made no attempt to inform him of the changes. He has suspended payments from now and wrote to the court. The letter was to be signed for, but has just been returned stating they've moved away. However the court is still there and he is unsure what to do, as we can't really afford a solicitor and feel he is owed the six months money she has fraudulently claimed. We also fear she will make up some story and issue him with court demands, as she did once before when a bank error occured with her payments. Do the courts not check on orders they have issued and why is it up to the fathers to protect their interests when it would be completly different if the other way around? Any ideas greatly accepted, thank you!!
SiG 31/10/2016 at 6:02 pm
Hi,


I have been divorced a number of years and pay maintenance to my ex wife by private arrangement or my two sons aged 14 and 16.
I have now met a new partner who I plan to live with. We are worried that her savings or earnings could be taken into account if my ex wife chose to go through the child maintenance people. Please can anyone tell me if this can happen?

Also, do maintenance payments stop at the age of 18 or do I have to continue paying whilst my sons attend university?
many thanks
Rick 30/10/2016 at 8:15 pm
I'm a father of a 20 month old girl, who's mother I had a short fling with after a bad break up with a previous relationship.
I Have provided for my daughter from day 1, and was even handing over money before she was born.
Days after she was born, I found out her mother had a serious gambling problem, and is always broke and keeps asking for more money or items of high value from me or my mother as most of her money goes on online casinos or social media gaming, i.e poker sites etc.
I currently pay £45 a week, paid 4 weekly direct into her account.
I know full well this does not go towards my daughter.
I am happy to keep paying for my daughter, but was wondering if this can be paid into a bank account in my daughter's name which her mother has no access too, so it can be used for when she is a little older and can ask for items herself, such as clothes, toys....
I heard recently that someone is doing this method, just needed to know if this is possible.
I want my daughter to have the best future possible, and know this wont happen while all money is thrown away due to gambling.
I also need to add that this is her 10th child, and althought half are now adults, her 6th, 7th & 8th were taken from her due to neglect in 2008, the 9th taken from her at birth and adopted in 2011, and when mine was born, if it wern't for my help, she'd of lost our daughter too.
She has never let me take her on my own, nor has she brought her to my house. And my access has always been cut short to an hour, yet quick enough to take my money.
I'm desperate to spend time with my daughter, but looking on sites like these, the rights us fathers have are shocking!!!
Help please.
Lof2 30/10/2016 at 12:45 pm
My son is being taken to court over maintenance payments assessed in another EU country. My son lives in uk. Will maintenance be assessed on uk basis- on his income- or EU country's system which is more and unaffordable on his salary?
Daz 29/10/2016 at 7:59 pm
Hi ive been paying for my son for nearly 17 years. My csa finished in august because he started an apprenticeship. Now hes apparantly gone back to college and the cms have just been in touch after 2 months of non payment wanting more money. I have found out that he is also working. Am i liable to still pay? Where can i appeal this.
Scooby 25/10/2016 at 12:58 pm
Hi a work colleague of mine conceived a child who is now eleven. Basically it was a one night of regret he was very drunk, (he had no protection but she said she was on pill). 6 months later she knocks on his door to tell him she's pregnant with his child, obviously gobsmacked asked why she not told him sooner said she didn't know (already has a child) and had obviously looked very big pregnant wise ?!? He explained th only way he wanted to bring children into the world was in a loving relationship not this way, asked her to get an abortion as he did not have a choice in this matter. Anyway she said she didn't want anything wanted to keep child. However his mum got involved being her grandchild and befriended her he had no contact from birth till the child was about one although his mum looked after child so she could go back to parttime work although she had his mum mind child longer hours than she actually worked. He was in a new relationship at this stage his then girlfriend got him to see the child off which he was reluctant as he was aware due to this women's nasty side she could use him as bait for whatever. He seen his child regularly even had the child stay over. He noticed one January she was marking all his nights he was having him on the Calendar but didn't think nothing off it. He then met the women he's with now who had come from a previous relationship herself and had children one same age as his own. They introduced the children they got on great and his child was enjoying his time with his dad new partner and family. The next time he went to pick him up she pulled the seeing the child stating the child did not want to see him, within weeks csa were in touch and demanding quiet a substantial amount back dated apparently she had started it the January ( he had seen the calendar with dates etc on). When he first seen his child he mentioned coda and she sent him an email stating she would never do that and just wanted him to see his child off whom he had no right to say he wanted or not! He had paid £30 a week since birth, out of his own nature not asked for. So now he has paid 3 years of thirty pound a week and eight years child maintenance which is nearer the fifty pound a week mark for a child he never went out to have with a women who he only went with because of drink and drugs. It has affected his new relationship as she thought it was her fault that the other women started this, why is it the women has a right to go through with a pregnancy even if the other participant doesn't want that outcome, but then he has to pay. I understand when people have been in relationships and a child is the result but one night stands
Hansxox 25/10/2016 at 11:48 am
Hi. I am 20 years old and my sister is 18 years old. Our father does not pay child support and left our lives when we were very young as he was sentenced to prison. Would we be able to take him to court for all the missed payments of child support he owes our mother? My sister has just turned 18 and is in full time education at college. Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 21/10/2016 at 2:05 pm
It is up to the resident parent's discretion.
Em 20/10/2016 at 11:52 pm
If my child is still in part time education and working part time that she should pay her way towards her keep even though the other parent is paying maintenance.?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/10/2016 at 12:40 pm
Yes, if the child stays with you on the authority of the father on his allocated 'days', then this is counted as him having the child overnight. However, there are many resident parents that may put a halt to this arrangement in order to claim the extra money which is unfair, but unfortunately true. Therefore, it's a move to watch out for. If this happens, it would be up to your son to object by taking the matter to court.
Mitsy 18/10/2016 at 9:25 pm
Hi my step son is separated from his ex and pays regular payments for his son!he has him every other week in which we have our grandson on the friday as his dad works Saturday mornings and then he collects him from us at lunchtime!and then has him the rest of the weekend!his ex is now trying to claim more money from him does the grandparents having the grand child class as days towards the dad having him as we are family members?can anyone help? Many thanks
Andy 18/10/2016 at 6:21 pm
I'm currently paying child maintenance through order as my earnings are over the CSA thresholds.

Couple of questions
1) I'm thinking of moving into a different industry that would likely take my pay back below the threshold. What happens in this case? Do i have to go back to court or do I automatically come under CSA guidelines and can pay at the CSA calculated level?

2) if my new wife also works are her earnings taken into consideration or is just my earnings?

Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 18/10/2016 at 2:17 pm
You may wish to try and check if her child benefit has stopped, as child benefit and child maintenance cease at the same time, If you have parental responsibility the college should tell you directly. If you think your ex is being untruthful about your daughter attending college, then you may wish to get a solicitor to draft a letter asking for proof. 
SeparatedDads Editor 18/10/2016 at 11:09 am
By law a father is legally obliged to support his children financially. If there is a family-based arrangement in place (not arranged through the CMS), then he can stop payments and there will be no recourse. However, his ex could approach the CMS and he would be assessed on his earnings and made to pay a specific amount, I suppose the issue here is even if he stops payments for a short time while he finds accommodation, will he be able to keep up the new payments if his ex decides to approach the CMS? He may then have a new place, but be plunged into child maintenance or rent arrears (which is never a good idea). Therefore, using the calculator will be able to inform your boyfriend what he can and cannot afford.
NH13 17/10/2016 at 11:27 am
My boyfriend is currently living with his mother following separation from his wife. The wife has custody of the 2 children and he pays a regular weekly amount to her. He now wishes to find his own home and arrange joint custody of the children, however he is unable to afford to do this, whilst he pays his wife. Can he stop, or reduce, the amount he pays his wife? There is no legal arrangement in place, only an informal family arrangement.
will275 15/10/2016 at 12:22 pm
I've recently separated from my wife i work away in the military and she lives in my house which i'm paying the mortgage on with my 8 week old son, i'm currently give her £300 a month for my son and pay £800 for the house, which she won't even let me in!! nor will she allow me access to my son does the fact that i'm paying for the house affect the amount i should be giving her my son?
michx 14/10/2016 at 11:51 am
Hi, I have been paying csa for my daughter who is 19 years old, I don't see her at all. I don't mind paying csa but I would like to know if she is still in full time education, as I have been told she us not. Is there anyway I could find this out?
Bic 08/10/2016 at 7:10 am
Hi,my daughter is 18,she goes to college 3 times a week and she has a job and earns money too, 400-500£ a month,I am separated from her mum because she committed adultry but we have a joint loan of £20,000,my ex wife will not help me with the loan payments,but I still pay maintenance to her every month,do I have to keep paying her?
Kind regards
Bic.
SeparatedDads Editor 07/10/2016 at 10:52 am
Unfortunately, this is a scenario that happens to fathers all the time. All resident parents are entitled to claim from the non-resident parent as is the law. Some have a family-based arrangement and some feel the need to go through the CMS. The fact you didn't claim from your ex was your decision, he obviously doesn't think the same way as you. It's a shame when relationships between parents and children fracture. You would have the option of suggesting mediation or taking the matter to court in order to attempt to regain overnight access of your child. I hope you manage to sort this matter out.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/10/2016 at 3:08 pm
Your partner's ex would have to request your partner's consent (if he has parental responsibility). If he refuses his consent, his ex would have to apply through the courts. However, it is difficult to predict what the courts may decide as it will always decide upon what it thinks is in the child's best interests. If your partner thinks his ex may leave the country without his consent, then he can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. A PSO, is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. We have all heard the stories of a parent taking their child for the weekend and not returning them or going abroad with them and it becoming extremely difficult for the other parent to get their child back. Thankfully, this is one of the scenarios that a PSO seeks to prevent. Again, it is difficult to predict what a court may decide, especially if his wife can prove that the work opportunity will offer her and the child a better life. Your partner will still be eligible to pay child maintenance through a reciprocal maintenance order. The court may make allowances for travel should his ex be granted the order to make the move. I hope this helps.
Hamish 06/10/2016 at 2:00 pm
I have brought up my daughter for 13 years happily receiving little or nothing from her dad ,I have worked round school and nursery for years earning very little ,now he has talked my daughter into staying with him and having nothing to do with any of her family either side ,he is claiming me through cms and it has now crippled me to the extent I can't afford to work ,I like my job but can't keep up 70 hours a week to pay him ,he has stopped her staying with us so he can get maximum payments the cams has ruined any chance I had with my daughter how is this right
Anon 06/10/2016 at 1:58 pm
This is from my Partner:My Ex Wife has informed me she will be moving to the US and taking my son, potentially for 2 years, but could be longer. This is for a work opportunity in which she stated she would be set-up for life.I see my Son every other weekend (due to where she lives) and wanted advise on the following points:1. Do I have any rights in which to stop her taking him?2. Would I still have to pay the same maintenance as she is in another country and I will need to travel abroad at a huge cost in which to see him?
Djh 01/10/2016 at 1:27 am
I have 3 kids by 2 different women and pay csa for them my oldest is turning 18 soon will my payments to her stop and will that money pass to my other 2 kids
SeparatedDads Editor 28/09/2016 at 1:49 pm
If you and your ex go through the CMS and your ex receives benefits, he will be expected to pay a flat rate of child maintenance of £7 a week. You don't say whether this work is paid and/or going through the HMRC, therefore it makes it difficult to advise further regarding what the situation may be.
Jez 27/09/2016 at 6:20 pm
His o have an agreement with my ex over my son which lives with her and I've always brought him stuff as agreed and kept the receipts but now she wants to take me through csa just to get at me can she do this
Sadieneedsinfo 27/09/2016 at 2:50 pm
Hiya. So my friend received a letter today saying that her ex partner only has to pay £7 a week for their 2 boys that they had together .... it states that he is on benefits, and also working, how is £7 right?
Sara 22/09/2016 at 3:48 pm
Can anyone explain why my new partners income is taken into consideration by the Child Tax Credits but my ex husbands new partners income is not taken into consideration by the Child Maintenance Service? Seems a little unfair. Why should my new partner have to contribute towards the upbringing of my children and yet my ex is now paying half what he was in rent, bills etc and yet the ratehe pays us stays the same?
SeparatedDads Editor 20/09/2016 at 2:17 pm
He would not have to pay for his eldest son if he is in receipt of benefits.
samf123 19/09/2016 at 6:47 pm
I am looking for some information my partner has 2 children from previous relationships and he has always paid an agreed amount of maintenance to there mum however she has now decided to go through csa which is fine but his eldest son is 19 years old and he is currently claiming job seekers does he still need to pay her maintenance for the eldest thank you
Bee 15/09/2016 at 11:03 am
Hi I have had my 9 year old nephew with learning disabilities in my care for tehe last 8 weeks, he and his 2 brothers and sister are on child protection as there are a number of serious safeguarding issues, I had my niece for 6 weeks but one of her mums boyfriends walkied in my mums house and took her while I was at work, my nephew hid in a wardrobe so wasn't taken, my nephew is to scared to go home and is refusing to he is frightened of his mum and her boyfriends ) last week at the child protection case conference it was ruled that all children are on child protection and mum has to follow many orders within 3 months ( failed everyone so far) if she has been seen to fail the children will be placed into the family or care ( 2 out of the 4 children are my blood my brothers children, my brother is not stable to take on his children so it leaves myself and partner and in a heartbeat we would, to give them the future they deserve ) the chairman said we have to work towards my nephew going home as I have no PR but they are not forcing him or pushing it as he is so scared, school are doing wishes and feeling with him. We have had no money at all towards his care ( and I don't want it to sound that's all I care about) mum is spending all his DLA and carers allowance and child tax on buying herself new trainers and feeding her drink and drug habit, I have brought all of his school uniform, pe kit football kit, swimming kit, clothes as her came with none, activities etc. It's hard going as he needs to keep active which is costing in many ways and childcare is not cheap either, I just want to know where I stand with mum claiming all his money, I also brought my nieces school uniform and 3 bags of new clothes and shoes ( not that I mind) it's frustrating that their mum is using all of their money on herself and habits and I'm working my backside off just to get by.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/09/2016 at 10:17 am
The person who is collecting child benefit for him should be the person who receives the child maintenance. However, if this is his mother, then you would have to sort this out with the CSA directly due to the logistical nature of your query.
Shellby 14/09/2016 at 11:46 am
My son finished college on 22/7/16
His Csa payments ended
He's left home to live with a friend parents house.
He is appealing to get back into college for another year
Can his friends mum claim csa if he's accepted back into college on his behalf
SeparatedDads Editor 13/09/2016 at 12:26 pm
I'm afraid we can't really advice on this if the CMS are requesting you pay, and you think this is unfair, then you can complain, please see gov.uk whichWe can't give any other additional advice as we are not familiar with CMS administration procedures.
jojo 12/09/2016 at 4:59 pm
I pay my ex £800pm maintenance for my 2 boys who are 9-12. My 12 year old has recently fell out with his mother and moving back in with me full time. I called the CMS and they said I should continue to pay the £800 'until they review it'. I've been told they can take weeks sometimes months. Its due in 7 days time but am reluctant to pay it as I know my ex wont pay it back.
I thought as I had 1 of my boys and she had the other then I wouldn't have to pay any child maintenance? Someone please help
SeparatedDads Editor 09/09/2016 at 12:08 pm
If you are not earning, then you will not have to pay more than flat rate. If you feel you have been treated unfairly, you can complain, You may have to confirm how you survive financially if you are not earning or in receipt of benefits.
Bachy 08/09/2016 at 11:04 pm
I was married I got divorced when my ex wife was 5 months pregnant I didn't hear anything from my ex wife in a letter come from child support she has applied for she did not make any effort of telling me when the child was born didn't know nothing intill I got letter from child support saying I need to pay I don't work I don't get any Benifites today I checked my account child support took 400 out of my account without my knowledge that was money I have borrowed to pay rent can I get my money back from child mattanice
SeparatedDads Editor 07/09/2016 at 12:40 pm
Yes, as the father of his child your partner will still have to pay child maintenance regardless of what his ex's financial situation is and regardless of whether he sees his son. If his ex has stopped access, your partner's only recourse would be to apply for access to be re-instated via court.
SeparatedDads Editor 07/09/2016 at 11:00 am
When parents have a family-based arrangement, it really is up to both parents to agree on how much is paid and for what. Your boyfriend can see how much he would be paying if the arrangement was made through the CMS, which will give him a good benchmark figure.
katty123 07/09/2016 at 12:25 am
Hi my partner has a son who lives two hours away. He has only one weekend a month off work and he goes to see him. She has stopped this as she says its not enough of a routine. He has always paid an agreed amount every month to her on time. My question is that she has now got married and had another child so does he still have to pay maintenance even if they are alot more financially better off than my partner is?
Dee 06/09/2016 at 12:20 pm
Please help, I'm sick with worry.
We are currently paying an agreed amount of £40 a month for my boyfriends son from his previous relationship. When then had a letter from the mother saying that this amount is over due( but later stated it wasn't due for another 2 weeks). She had listed the child's swimming which is not a necessity, his child care for after school, school dinners and a £40 with no explanation at all! As far as I'm aware an out of court agreement has to be just that, agreed? We haven't heard anything from this before. And wants us to pay things that we don't know if she is even paying herself!
Dee 06/09/2016 at 12:11 pm
@slybacon
As stated above, legally you can stop payments when the child reaches the age of 20
slybacon 02/09/2016 at 5:18 pm
hi, my son is 20 in december and is in advanced education. he refuses to get ortry to get a part time job as h only does around 20 hours a week. so to try and encourage him i have stopped monthly payments, his mother is insisting i start again and threatening to take legal action. what is my legal position. i am happy to help but will not pay while he wont try and get a job. to make matters worse my ex will not allow him to take on the student loan which i feel would be a fairer way to finance him giving the situation with work.
Rich7410 02/09/2016 at 10:13 am
@Moi me - can't you just ring the college? If your partner has parental responsibility then the college should give you the information. I'd keep checking that he's attending to as many kids drop out. If he's working part-time - it doesn't affect the fact you have to pay - for your partner to be allowed to stop he'd have to have left full-time college and be working full-time.
Moi me 02/09/2016 at 7:28 am
Hi we've been paying maintanance,our arrangement through csa ended May as csa changed over but we've continued to pay my partners ex,as it was family based anyway, we've been asking for a month now if he's attending college and for proof he's 16,17 Nov and heard nothing so with advice from maintanance suspended payment,so on the date the payment stopped we get a picture message of a College form dated the same date ?? Which as clearly been done as money didn't go in..how can we find out if he's attending or do we just pay?.were also aware he's been working earning £200 week too,do we still have to pay the full amount the csa said years ago if he's earning that ??? Thanks
Jayooo 02/09/2016 at 6:42 am
Hi.

Broken up with ex partner over a year ago and we have a 4 year old boy, we have agreed payments of £80 a month. This is based on csa recommendation but minus the amount I pay into private pension every month. My ex partner now thinks I have to help towards the upkeep of her house foe example help pay gas and electric etc plus the £80 on top, surely this can not be right? She doesn't work and has all her rent etc paid for.

Also I am looking into this shared care I have my son 3 nights a week on paper but more likely 5 nights a week so I believe I should not be paying a penny?

Any confirmation on this would be great.
smileyface 28/08/2016 at 11:29 pm
This relates to child maintenance I have just started work, and I have 1 son age 3 from my ex partner, she went and opened a case last year with child maintenance why I don't know as even when wasn't working on job seekers I still managed to pay money every week the basic 7pds a week.Now she says I want go through proper channel as I will get more, just a greedy person.wants bleed me dry when I have offered pay 140pds every 4 weeks she says no. I am worrying sick how will manage when I look at the calclations child maintenance say. Any advice I see him every week and has to cst at least 35pds for day fares etc but can I appeal if I get a bill and its too high for me. I was tol by a friend fill in a special variations form can someone help me please I pay full rent tax poll and have to live ttavel to work also public transport. I want to do best for my son but she will not meet me discuss this just wants to break me.
KL 27/08/2016 at 1:48 pm
Hi,
I've been scanning the Internet for advice regarding payments of childcare! My partners children aged 2 and 5 stay with us a minimum of 3 night per week. He pays double the recommended maintenance payments but has also been paying for half the weeks childcare (nursery which will be ongoing and playgroup over the summer holidays). I've been told that the mother will be receiving financial support to pay for the child care. If so, is there a legal obligation on the dad to pay for half of all childcare? And is there financial support available to dads for this?
Thanks in advance
SeparatedDads Editor 25/08/2016 at 10:41 am
It is compulsary that your son continues his education in some form or other post-16. Child maintenence payments fall in line with child benefit payments (which would cease at the end of the school year Aug 31) if your son has not returned to education or found some sort of work-based learning such as an apprenticeship. Remember, if you have PR, both your ex and you could be deemed responsible for your son failing to continue his education.
Louise 24/08/2016 at 6:24 pm
Hi, could you help me. We are paying for my husband's child with another woman who is 16 (17 in Nov).. I've recently found out she has left school and has started working from the 2nd august as an administrative assistant. Would we have to still pay csa payments.? Thanks.x
SeparatedDads Editor 24/08/2016 at 2:02 pm
You have no obligation to pay for your non-biological child unless you have legally adopted him. Child maintenance and access rights are separate issues, meaning your ex cannot blackmail you in this way. If she is trying to do this, I would keep all the evidence you can to show this i.e texts, emails etc. If she stops access as a result, then you would have to apply to the court for an contact order.
Miller 24/08/2016 at 11:40 am
My son finished six form in May and at present he hasn't found either a job or apprenticeship? When will my payments stop?
A.j 23/08/2016 at 9:42 pm
I am a self employed father, i have my children (1 biological, 1 non biological) same mother.. nearly every weekend from friday after school to sunday lunch. I pay £200 a month and i buy 80% of clothing and pay half on every school trip/passport or other things both boys need.

2 things i wonder,

my non biological child, is it right that anything i provide for him is out the goodness and love i have and not by law abiding or enforcing?

And the other, the ex is demanding more money and blackmailing me with visitation difficulties if her financial demands are not upheld or met.

Csa cannot try help her if i am providing?
SeparatedDads Editor 23/08/2016 at 12:17 pm
It depends on whether you have a family-based arrangement or not and what you decide between you. If you don't have a family based arrangement, then you will not pay maintenence for your son (if he is solely living with you and it is 'officially' agreed). You can see if you should be paying (or your ex should be paying you) via the child maintenance calculator here.
RavTam 23/08/2016 at 6:38 am
My daughter starts her apprenticeship in September, she is now 16, do I still pay MAINTINECE ?
JD 22/08/2016 at 9:16 pm
I have two children with my ex wife and my son has decided to now live with me. Should I still pay maintenance now a child lives with each of us?
SeparatedDads Editor 16/08/2016 at 10:35 am
If your child will be earning money as part of the apprenticeship, then yes. Child maintenance stops when child benefit does.
den 15/08/2016 at 11:13 am
hi,my child has just finished school & is due to start an apprenticeship in september,does this mean maintenance will stop from this point?thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/08/2016 at 2:04 pm
If your son is earning and no longer in receipt of child benefit then your child maintenance payments will stop.
Tony 11/08/2016 at 11:00 pm
I have twin 16 yr old boys
I have paid £500 a month for the past 15 years since we divorced now one twin has gone into the army do I still have to pay 500
Aaron 05/08/2016 at 11:41 am
Also would it affect my payments to my other three sons
Aaron 05/08/2016 at 11:39 am
I have one of my sons stay with me every other weekend plus some holidays. How would this affect my payments
SeparatedDads Editor 04/08/2016 at 12:29 pm
If your ex is not responsive to your desire to try and sort your finances out amicably, then I imagine she would refuse mediation also (but it it still worth suggesting). If you go through the CMS, then you will not have to pay any more above and beyond the earnings you have been assessed on (unless you choose to do otherwise). The likes of uniforms etc are expensive and can eat into finances - but you are paying above and beyond the recommended amount anyway, you have to do what feels right for you. But you certainly are not legally obliged.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/08/2016 at 9:58 am
The Child Maintenance Service will take into account the number of children the paying parent has to pay child maintenance for. This means when you have another child you should inform the CMS and they will make adjustments accordingly.
Bawwi 03/08/2016 at 8:20 pm
Hi all, I'm at the beginning of the difficult stage with my separation. I split in December last year and based on my wage I voluntarily pay her £600 a month,
despite CMS calculator stating £124 a week. I also presently pay some household bills but that's about to change when she moves out of the family home into her own place. I have three kids, 19, 16 and 11 so not paying for the 19 year old. She now asking me for additional money to help towards rental cost which I'm not willing to pay, she also expects me to pay half towards school uniforms etc...so my question is the fixed amount I pay, that's for all the kids needs??? Is it reasonable for her to expect more from me??? She won't sit down and discuss finances with me, I've recommended we do the family based arrangement form available online, but all to no avail. Should I apply directly to CMS for an assessment and carry on paying what I'm willing to pay, or would you recommend mediation??? any help gratefully received
Nick 03/08/2016 at 12:53 am
Advise please... I am a father paying maintenance for one child to my ex partner. I am now married with a baby on the way, will the fact I have another child effect how much Maintence my ex receives?
I'm worried I won't be able to support my family financially when the baby comes with the amount CMS have said I must pay
SeparatedDads Editor 02/08/2016 at 11:03 am
All non-resident parents are responsible for supporting their children and there are laws in place to allow resident parents to claim via a reciprocal enforcement of maintenance order (REMO). Whether you can challenge your child maintenance payments depends whether the country you will be living in is a member country.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/08/2016 at 2:29 pm
It is still difficult to answer. Of course a solicitor will say this as he is representing his client (your partner's ex). Much depends upon the circumstances i.e whether your partner is paying maintenance, whether these commitments were already in place before they split up/divorced and also what your partner's income is. I can only suggest your partner seeks legal advice himself, a solicitor will soon tell him whether his ex has a chance or not in court.
Dave 01/08/2016 at 1:40 pm
I have twins aged 10 , we divorced under Singapore law 2 years ago and I am finding it tough financially.
If I were to move away but stay in Asia or middle East, could I challenge what I currently contribute towards maintenance based on the fact that I am in a different country?
I am a UK citizen and my ex wife is from NZ
Lou 30/07/2016 at 9:11 pm
Hi there again. Just to confirm.... We received an email fro my partners ex wife stating she has visited her solicitor and has been advised that she is entitled to claim half of the monies, from us, for half of the private health care, driving lessons, re-sit of exams she has paid for my partners son. Can she do this?
StuckInTheMiddle 29/07/2016 at 12:31 pm
Hi, my parter had a child before we even got together, he pays a set amount each month anyways since then we've gone on to have another child.
The other woman has settled down and had another child.
Just wondering if this will change his payments as I don't have a clue
SeparatedDads Editor 29/07/2016 at 10:51 am
I'm not sure of your question. Does she wish to arrange driving lessons and private healthcare for his child? If so, this is her decision and shouldn't be part of any general maintenance agreement. I don't image she would get very far in court, if this is the case.
Lou 28/07/2016 at 11:54 am
My partner has a legal agreed maintanance figure. We have just received an e-mail from his ex wife stating she will take us to court regarding wanting sharing the costs for driving lessons, private health care etc. I suppose my questions are, 1. Is she entitled to do this? 2. If so can she do/arrange private health care, driving lessons without consultation?
SeparatedDads Editor 27/07/2016 at 2:47 pm
No, you are still deemed responsible for paying for the day-to-day upkeep of your children regardless of whether your ex marries.
Paul 27/07/2016 at 8:35 am
Hi,

If my ex partner gets married does that mean I stop paying child maintenance.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/07/2016 at 3:03 pm
When you are divorced you personally have no financial claim on your ex. If your ex left no provision in a will for your daughter, his estate would automatically go to his current wife.
Taylor 18/07/2016 at 9:08 pm
My husband has three children from his previous relationship. His oldest has come to live with us. So we have one and his ex has two. Should he still have to pay child support for two children or would us having one full time change it to us only paying for one of the two in her care?
SeparatedDads Editor 18/07/2016 at 2:00 pm
I am sorry to hear that you have found yourself in this position, but your ex's current partner is not responsible for the day-to-day financial upkeep of your children. Child maintenance is assessed on the biological parent alone and if your ex has no income, then regardless of who is supporting him, that person is not obliged to support his children too, unless they choose to voluntarily.
Worried 17/07/2016 at 8:04 pm
Hi there My ex-partner left just over three years ago and has been paying maintenance monthly for our three children since then.I received an email from him this week to say that his business had folded (on that day) and he would not be able to pay maintenance for the foreseeable future.Whilst I am sad to hear that his business has ceased trading, it puts me in a very vulnerable position financially. The lifestyle that he leads does not suggest that he and his new partner (of two years) have financial challenges (many luxury holidays taken, very large house, expensive cars, designer jewellry and clothing etc...). My query is whether the maintenance he pays should legally be agreed on the basis of their combined income because they are cohabiting, or whether it is always calculated on his income alone. I assume moral views do not play a part in court decisions, but it feels wrong that our three children are now going to suffer financially and I am extremely worried about how to manage (I don't have a new partner), yet his lifestyle will continue because he has someone to turn to to support him. Can you offer any help with this query? Many thanks.
exployted 15/07/2016 at 5:50 pm
can article 6 European convention of human rights be used in a case of a deductions from earnings order? my ex has stopped me from seeing my son for 14 years. the csa said I owe nothing, now the cms are taking £500 a month direct from my wages with out any opportunity to put my side of the case. this is grossly unfair. also there is the breaches of data protection law ( schedule 2) data my not be used or processed without the data subjects consent.
HappyskintDad 11/07/2016 at 1:04 am
Hi All, my question to the forum is regarding the extreme amounts of child maintenance absent father's are requested to pay. I have a 17, nearly 18 year old son with my first partner receiving approx £460 per month and two children 10 and 8 with my ex wife receiving approx £620 per month. When I was younger I remember having to part with most of my wages and struggling to live myself. I have worked very hard to get into the pay bracket I'm in but it's never ending up really benefiting anyone other than my ex partners?! This new CMS seems a shambles already relying on information from the HMRC three years ago to make an assessment! I had to actually give them my correct gross salary figure!!! My question is why does it take more money to bring up my 3 children than it does for the next 3 kids in their school class that has a father that's in a lower income job than me? I'm a firm believer that there should be a direct link to what the parent with care is prepared to earn/contribute and the parent without care should match that. I'm unfortunate enough that my ex partners chose to sit on their backsides and let the money roll in every month! My eldest childs mother has an older daughter and screwed her father for CSA and now has a younger child now and that father is also paying CMS. Absolute madness! To me the whole child support system is flawed for father's who actually want to pay but are absolutely crucified because they work dam hard for what they earn! There is no consideration for mortgages or massive debts left with the fathers and until recently I had never heard about mileage variations for which I travel nearly 700 miles every three weeks to see my youngest children. I know what most of you will say, just suck it up but some days I wonder what the point was working hard, why not sit on the dole and cough up £7 per week for all the children! The CMS is taking away father's aspirations to better themselves and this is rubbing of on our children...... that was some grump lol
SeparatedDads Editor 07/07/2016 at 11:44 am
Your maintenance should stop at the end of the school year (August 31) after she leaves school. If you still wish to continue to fund your daughter through university then this is up to you. At the same time if the mother of your child feels that you may be eligible to continue to support your daughter in her eduction, then she may be able to apply for further support from you through the courts. If the mother of your child decides to take this route, then the court will consider each case individually and regardless of the availability of student loans, if your daughter is viewed to have the need for financial assistance and you as the the parent has the financial means to pay, the court may order a child maintenance extension.
Millie 06/07/2016 at 1:52 pm
My child left school in June age 17 and starts University advanced education on her 18th Birthday.

Should I continue to pay maintenance until she is 18 or does it stop when she leaves school?
Worried 02/07/2016 at 6:32 pm
Hi there

My ex-partner left just over three years ago and has been paying maintenance monthly for our three children since then. I received an email from him this week to say that his business had folded (on that day) and he would not be able to pay maintenance for the foreseeable future. Whilst I am sad to hear that his business has ceased trading, it puts me in a very vulnerable position financially.

The lifestyle that he leads does not suggest that he and his new partner (of two years) have financial challenges (many luxury holidays taken, very large house, expensive cars, designer jewellry and clothing etc...).

My query is whether the maintenance he pays should legally be agreed on the basis of their combined income because they are cohabiting, or whether it is always calculated on his income alone.

I assume moral views do not play a part in court decisions, but it feels wrong that our three children are now going to suffer financially and I am extremely worried about how to manage (I don't have a new partner), yet his lifestyle will continue because he has someone to turn to to support him.

Can you offer any help with this query?

Many thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/06/2016 at 1:51 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course or until they turn 20. In 2013 the law changed, making it compulsory for all UK children to continue in some kind of further education until the age of 18, which means they will still need support financially from the non-resident parent.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/06/2016 at 11:45 am
If you had a family-based agreement, then you would not legally be able to claim back pay or force your ex to pay.
Lammie 29/06/2016 at 11:13 pm
Why am I paying child support when clearly my 18 year old is an adult, I know she is in collage but that is up to her,I am not stopping her getting a job to support herself, I've had to support myself since leaving school at 16,
Jo 29/06/2016 at 3:20 pm
I had 2 children from my 1st marriage, he agreed £200 a month child support which went up to £250, I got nothing out the marriage but agreed child support til they were 18. I got married again this didn't last long as kids didn't get on with him and my eldest went to live with father and went to collage up near him to do her A levels. He stopped child support for the child living with me as he declared he had a child with him and I would have to pay for her. I think he should have paid for the child that was living with me she was 15 at the time she is now 18. Could I ask for the the 3 years of child support from him?
Eil 28/06/2016 at 7:49 pm
Hi

As csa has ceased I need to arrange new payments to my children's mums. One with one mum, 3 to another mum. My 3 children now, due to a court order made as their mum is struggling to cope with their care, now spend 6 nights out of a fortnight and 50% of all school holiday living with myself, my wife and her 3 children. Do I still need to pay her child maintenance payments as we virtually have 50/50 care? Can anyone help or advise please?
jordy 27/06/2016 at 8:00 am
Morning, just a wee question in regards to the receiving parent. I pay cms and the mother is in receipt of child tax and benefits but has not informed the benifit authorities. In regard to me paying csm would this effect the tax and benifit she recieves? She has stopped me seeing thw kids and I have seeked legal advice and she is ignoring any communication with my lawyer. Only reason I can think of is to get the full amount of cms of me. I do know however the money I have paid to her through bank account has not veen used on the kids as she was buying ber new partner car parts and asking her family for money to pay for things for the kids. What can be done to be assured that the money is used for kids and not other things . The last thing I want is to fund her new partners car expenses whilsr he works himself.
Stevie 24/06/2016 at 6:15 pm
If a father works as a builder/labourer but with no garuntee of working every week, he has his child for 3 full days a week and pays the mother 70 pounds a week maintenance whenever he has worked,and also contributes to birthdays Xmas school uniform, clothes and days out for the child, is he paying more then he should be ?
SeparatedDads Editor 22/06/2016 at 2:55 pm
Child maintenance is based on earnings and it is considered that if the non-resident parent either has to pay at a flat rate or does not have to pay at all if they have little or no income. The resident parent may be entitled to other benefits (if they are a lone parent and/or earning a low wage) which the non-resident parent will not be entitled to.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/06/2016 at 11:21 am
If he is paying through the CMS/CSA the calculations are usually averaged out over the year which means unless agreed otherwise maintenance payments should continue. If you are in a family-based arrangement then it is up to your and your ex to negotiate between you whether he should pay or not.
Moomoo 22/06/2016 at 10:44 am
I think it's totally wrong now with the new system if a child stays with there dad over 1s a week and on benefits they don't have to pay a penny how has that happend I think it's totally wrong
nat10 21/06/2016 at 2:34 pm
Hi My two kids are due to spend 3 weeks with there dad over the summer, what I would like to know is if me still has to pay me maintenance when they are with him? Thanks
Star1980 21/06/2016 at 1:04 pm
Hey,

Looking for some advice for my partner and I. He is seperated (never married to his ex) and she resides in the house they both are on the deeds to. He pays the mortage which is more than maintanence due for the kids. He has agreed to hand over the house in full to her, it only has a few years of mortgage left, for around £10 - £15K less than what his share due is. He sees how importnat it is not to disrupt the kids and keep them in the fmaily home. Presently he gets them 2 nights a week, but is desperate for more, ideally 3 or 4. He provides money for school trips, clothes, takes them on holiday etc. He s a super, very hands on dad. He lives locally, 5, renting but wanting to buy a home very close to their school. He does the school run as much as he can but works shifts. She continually changes the times and days we see the kids in order to try and disrupt his life and any plans we may have.

She will not allow him more than 2 nights a week, for no other reason than to spite his and punish him for finding a new relationship. Its not in the kids best interests. they adore him and love the time spent with him. The house he has is stable and loads of room, we are working hard at making at really comfertable.

He doesn't want to turn the house over to her until he has more access to the kids and also the arrangement is in writing. (she threatens that he cant see the kids if he continues to be in a relationship with me) We are not bothered about this other house or all the belongings he left, we are focusing on creating a new space. She refused Mediation and did not turn up to the first meeting.

We just want something more legal because she is not that amicable and quite reactive, abusive and rants over text etc.

Is it worth us trying to speak to a solicitor or will it just cost the earth and nothing will change? As soon as the house is moved to her name he will then apply to the CSA to get an arrangment for money for the kids. We both agree we want to pay more than is expected.

Any idea are to where to start with this? Without it bankrupting us?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 20/06/2016 at 11:31 am
As you are on reduced earnings and are a student, you would be eligible to pay less, than you would if you were working. Much depends on whether you have a family-based agreement or whether you pay via an agency, please see CMS calculator
Mulvers 19/06/2016 at 10:55 am
Hi, I have three children, all have the same mum. Two live with there mum, and one lives with me. I pay my child maintance monthly, along with contributing to other costs as well like school holidays etc but the mother does not help with the cost of the one that lives with me, I'm a full time student and the mum works, can I do a separate claim so she helps with the cost of her eldest who lives with me?
Emmilou157 19/06/2016 at 8:44 am
Hi my step daughter has currently moved out of her mums and living with her grandma (October 15) we continued child maintenance to her mum but have just found out its not been passed on the the grandparents. We are in the process of getting details changed however my question is when do we carry on paying till. She is 18 in October and was going to go to uni but has decided to stay on for another two years and do the course she would of done in uni which she says is cheaper in student loan, then go do an honours top up at a uni, then do a pgce to go on to be a teacher?
nat 17/06/2016 at 10:31 pm
Hi My two kids are due to spend 3 weeks with there dad over the summer, what I would like to know is if me still has to pay me maintenance when they are with him?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 17/06/2016 at 2:50 pm
Your only option would be to apply to take the matter to court and/or approach the CMS
SeparatedDads Editor 17/06/2016 at 1:49 pm
Yes, child maintenance is support from the non-resident parent towards the day-to-day needs of the child living with the primary carer. You also may be able to claim child maintenance from the now non-resident parent if the child has moved homes.
Jay 16/06/2016 at 9:13 pm
Hi me and my ex husband divirced and separated 5 years ago my mum in law had the kids in holidays etc she passed away and now I've asked him to have time off through the holidays to help or I have o send one of the two children to childcare at £125 a week he refuses to have time off or help pay towards should he help
Pay towards childcare he doesn't pay anything had solicitor agreement as part of the divorce of £200 a month for his 2 kids but this hasn't been paid or stuck to please help
Sue 16/06/2016 at 5:57 pm
Hi, we pay child maintenance for my step daughter but she has recently moved in with us . Payments have continued so far but can we just stop them as she now resides with us
SeparatedDads Editor 16/06/2016 at 10:43 am
Once she leaves college you can stop paying (payments would stop officially on 31st August which equates to the end of the college year).
Jam 15/06/2016 at 12:28 pm
Hi I have ma son 2 nites a week and the csa have been in contacted and I have told them that I have ma son 2 nites a week but when they phoned his mother she is denying that I have him at all what can I do to sort this out
Willystonker 15/06/2016 at 9:18 am
Hi.. my daughter is studying a final year level 3 sub diploma at college.
I have a standing order in place and pay her money every month. She also works.
Once she leaves college do still have to pay??? She is also 19 in August. Its so confusing all this
mishmash 12/06/2016 at 8:54 pm
My partner has a child who is nearly 19 and currently in private college. He suspended maintenance payments to his ex-wife as he became seriously ill and did not work for 12 months.
The maintenance amount was agreed between my partner and his ex-wife outside of court many, many years ago and until he became ill he never missed a payment.
What I am wanting to know is does he still have to pay for his child (he has resumed payments but only to cover the year he didn't pay due to ill health) even if that child is in private college (my partner was never consolidated on the type of education) and his ex-wife is now saying that he has to pay back the time and continue to pay whilst his child is in education including if she goes to Uni - the child will be 19 this year.
Also does his ex-wife's financial situation have any impact on this payments. He never see's his child and I think he should stop paying maintenance because a) the child is over the age of 18 and b) he never see's his child.
Legally I want to know where he stands

Thanks in advance
Nat 12/06/2016 at 1:12 am
My ex and I have got back together and we are living together, her name is second on my tenancy agreement, am i legally entitled to having my payments stop?
Adee 10/06/2016 at 1:19 am
I am an international student and has a month old daughter for anow EU citizen resident on UK since 2012 who has refused to accept or register the child as his. Can I claim for child support and would it be granted since my visa says no recourse to public funds? Also when I go back to my country would I still receive child support if I win the case?
SeparatedDads Editor 07/06/2016 at 11:06 am
It's a tricky question to answer as it is standard law for the paying parent to pay if they are the non-resident parent. I can only suggest looking to see whether your son's course fits in with the government approved course which is studying not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week. The cessation of child benefit usually coincides with the cessation of child maintenance so you could also see whether this applies here.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/06/2016 at 2:19 pm
If your ex is on a low income or exempt from paying all but a flat rate because he is studying, then there is little you can do as child maintenance payments are based on earnings. However, once he leaves university studies and is earning then the CMS will be able to extract the money directly from his wages, if he refuses to pay. It sounds to me as though it would be better for you to stick with the CMS trying to retrieve the money, as from what you say it seems he will always be unreliable, especially if you have a family-based arrangement.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/06/2016 at 12:41 pm
Unfortunately, we cannot advise further on what the CMS/CSA has specified. I can only suggest you can complain if you feel you have been treated unfairly
Justasking 06/06/2016 at 10:36 am
Hi I've been paying for my son since he went to live with his dad due to my job which took me out of the country. I was before csa got involved paying him every time he had my son while I was away at work, he decided to go behind my back to the csa for more money, he doesn't work and I gave him family allowance book to he could get tax credits. I brought my son up for 12 years and never once had any maintenance from his dad, but anyway they took money straight from my wages, with the back dated payments he was due, from even when he was getting cash payments from me, up to 380 a month plus areas on top 500 a month, I have been off work due to an injury had have had no income or benefits in two years, my oh has been looking after me, my csa payments ceased and the csa closed the case, now I am fit to return to work but not my old job, and it's up to 45 hours a week minimum wage including weekends, my son is going on to college, he will get bursary and has thousands in the bank but I now have to contact his dad to say I will be working again, I have a lot of bills I have to pay as I've had no money in such a long time and it looks like I will be working up to 45 hours for less than 200 a week, while his dad has a car free housing and benefits because he has a bad back, he has never worked in years. He also get universal credit nd child benefit, according to csa I will have to pay for my son who is turning 18 for at least another two years, I really don't know how I'm mentioned to keep them and myself here, it says with the private arrangements ill have to pay over 120 a month.
vmz03 05/06/2016 at 11:44 pm
Hi,

My husband was arrested for assaulting me and since then left the house. He has refused to make any payment for his son. Even while he was working, he did not pay anything. I never wanted to get him in trouble as I still cared so I did let it pass. Then he started having affairs while still being married to me and promising me and our son a future. He still refused to pay a penny for his son. He does not visit or ask about his son and has completely blocked all contacts so I am unable to provide to the CMS. So after he decided to go study fulltime at uni and I know he got a scholarship and also got a student loan and is living the life. I see photos of him having his fun and when I was finally able to get through to his phone, he refused to pay saying I had to be nice first. And he also said he wanted it to be on his terms. I want to know what are my options now?
Freshbird 05/06/2016 at 2:53 pm
Hi, I have been told that my ex has now moved in with his girlfriend and she has 2 children. I have been told my payments will reduce because he has 2 other dependants which is fair enough if their father wasn't helping but the father of those children also pays for them. Surely this isn't fair as they are now receiving payment from 2 people and I now have to struggle because of my reduced payment which is minimal in the first place. Please can you advise.
Mouse 04/06/2016 at 5:23 pm
Hi my daughter turns 18 in July but still in full time education doing A Levels. Can you let me know if my ex has to pay me until she is 20 or my daughter direct.
Dan 03/06/2016 at 2:36 pm
Hello,

do I still need to pay child support even though my 14 yo daughter in civil relationship?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/06/2016 at 12:28 pm
Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here which will tell you more. If your daughter is working on a paid apprenticeship, then your child maintenance payments should stop.
Neil 01/06/2016 at 7:21 pm
My daughter is working over 32 hours a week and is 17 but also still go's to collage do i still hsve to pay her mom as she is now earning quite a bit of money around £350 per mth ..
Soulvapour 30/05/2016 at 7:45 pm
My daughter left school last summer and started college in September.
She is 17 now and will be 18 in September.
I know she will be doing another year at college and will complete this next year.
She attends college part time and works part time.
I don't understand how child maintenance told me I must pay until she's 20. If she goes on to university next year after completing 2 years at college, will her mum still receive benefits for her? I understand I must only pay if the mother is receiving benefits...I just don't know.
minux 29/05/2016 at 11:11 pm
Hi...I have a similar q as Jonah...seperated, 3 children, eldest is 18 & shes decided to live with me( her Dad) 5 nights out of 7 a week
...I've told cms this by letter , email & phone yet after the yearly review they are not only not changing my payments to my ex for all 3 children, they are upping my weekly payments by £15 & I just cannot believe it...what can I do please ?
Desperate dad 29/05/2016 at 6:33 pm
Me and my ex split a few months ago and she now wont let me have my two kids I have been paying the mortgage and my boys nursery fees not got a problem with that until she stopped me seeing them do I still have to pay if she won't let me have them
Ed1963 Editor 27/05/2016 at 3:09 pm
@Jonah - you won't have to pay for your daughter now living with you, so it should cancel itself out and you can mutually agree with your ex for a quid pro quo.
SeparatedDads Editor 27/05/2016 at 1:51 pm
Please see the CMO calculator here which will help you further.
Jonah 26/05/2016 at 11:25 pm
I have been paying £410 a month for my 2 children for the last 10 years.

My oldest child, 16, now wants to live with me and complete her A levels at a local college.

My ex wife and her new partner both have good jobs.

What will happen to my payments? I am confused whether she will now pay maintenance for the child living with me and I will pay for the child living with her, effectively cancelling the payments out. Is this correct?

Thanks
t c 26/05/2016 at 3:50 pm
Hi im just starting to pay my ex money for my 2 children.just unsure how i calculate wot i should give her.my pay is made up of mostly over time and is different every month.do i work it out on wot i get paid after tax etc?is it 20% of wot i earn for my 2 children?
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 26/05/2016 at 11:59 am
Once the parent paying goes to prison - payments are reduced to zero.
Soph25 25/05/2016 at 5:28 pm
My son is 7 years old his dad's been in prison for 3 years now and has another 12 years to go. Where do I stand of child maintaince.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2016 at 12:08 pm
Were your other children taken into consideration when the mother put in the claim? If you are paying for other children then they will be taken into consideration. You can see how much you should be paying here. I hope this helps.
Rob 23/05/2016 at 5:49 pm
Apparently I have a five year old son, I've never seen him and I'm not on his birth certificate. The mother will not let me see him. Although she has put a claim in for child support. I pay her £99.35 a week. But as she put the claim in last August I'm in a lot of debt! I have three other children aged 7, 6 and 4. I pay for these straight to their mum. As I only get £310 a week I have £200 left. I live on my own and am finding it hard to survive after bills etc. Is this right? Any suggestions?
SeparatedDads Editor 23/05/2016 at 11:09 am
Payments generally end in the September after her final school term. The cessation of payments usually falls in line with the ending of child benefit payments, i.e when child benefit payments stop, so does child maintenance, see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. I hope this helps.
Pixie 22/05/2016 at 9:39 am
My daughter turns 19 in December. She is currently sitting her A'levels, my ex has said he will not pay any maintenance for her after she sits her final A'level exam. I thought he needed to pay until she leaves for uni in Octobe. She does have a part time job, but this is only pocket money. I can 't find any information on the government website. Can anyone clarify this for me.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/05/2016 at 2:40 pm
I am sorry to hear this. It may be that your account will go into arrears if you are not earning, and it is likely you will be unable to pay those arrears or be forced to if you have no income. You can complain or appeal the decision whichI hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/05/2016 at 2:18 pm
Child maintenance arrangements made through the CSA will be ending between now and 2017, so you may find that you will be passed over to the CMS. Therefore, you may wish to contact the CMS directly to find this out
Dementia Dad 18/05/2016 at 1:09 am
Hi, I support a child who I had been seeing regularly and paying money straight to the Mother since 2008. I do not see since 2012 due to her Mothers upset at me getting married in 2012.
I have now been diagnosed with Dementia.
I will need to stop working as a handyman very soon but as the CSA use my tax payments to the inland revenue as a mark of what I earn, how can I continue to pay at the same rate?
Before you ask, I have already told the CSA this and they are insistent that I continue to pay at the rate they have based on last years income.... an amount that I will not be earning?
Will the diagnosis exempt me somehow? Or can I claim some help from the DHSS to pay this CSA money?
Thanks. Dementia Dad
jim3960 17/05/2016 at 11:11 pm
Hi,

I have paid my CSA payments by a voluntary DEO for over 12 years, it was easier than having to worry about missed payments and only cost an extra £1 in administration costs.

My question is do you have any experience or advice for me as I want to change back to Direct Debit or standing order payment. Is this feasible?

I look forward to your response.

Regards

Jim3960
SeparatedDads Editor 17/05/2016 at 12:41 pm
If your partner's ex has applied for child maintenance through the CMS did your parnter have to give details of his dependents? This is the usual procedure when assessing how much maintenance is to be paid. If your partner gave details of your baby then this would have been taken into account.
L 16/05/2016 at 10:47 pm
MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR HIS 15 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER. FIR THE PAST FEW MONTHS SHE'S HAD HER BOYFRIEND LIVING WITH HER. DOES HE STILL HAVE TO PAY?
natasja 16/05/2016 at 4:08 pm
hi,
my partner and I have a baby of 9 months old, I am a full time mum to give the best care for the little one.
My partner his ex ( he has 4 children with her) after 4 years of no contact since she abducted the children a few months after they split up, now applied for child maintenance. We received a letter for this saying that he would have to pay about £600 every month. Due to this we lose a large amount in the income we have, can we get a reduction on the amount we need to pay because he has a baby with me to support and he is the only provider.
thank you

kind regards
Natasja
SeparatedDads Editor 09/05/2016 at 12:04 pm
Yes, regardless of his thoughts of whether he should pay you or not, and whether you have another partner, he has a legal responsibility to continue paying towards the upkeep of 'his' children. If he is currently paying on a family-based arrangement then you can consult the CMS if you officially wish to claim. I hope this helps.
Soph 08/05/2016 at 1:39 pm
My husband and I separated, we have 3 children, he hardly ever visits as he is in the armed forces, but had a 2nd driving conviction and now got demoted so had a drop in pay and lost his license. He last saw them 4.5 months ago and hardly phones them. When he does speak to me I am clear that I am only interested in him taking time out to ensure the children are contacted regularly and that his payments remain regular.
He refuses to recognise that his payments should go towards paying family bills and says they are only for the children, and will not understand they are already going to the kids via food, clothing, regular sports and activities. All 3 of our children are doing very well at school and I make sure they are clean, cared for and happy.
His last phone call ended with him calling the bank to stop all payments following him telling me that because my partner is helping pay for a nice life for us all, standing in where possible during the kids' dad's absence, taking them to do things and spending money on activities with them, that he legally no longer has to pay a penny and has now cancelled payments to my bank account. This seems wrong. Surely the law says he should pay regardless? What can be done about this? The children didn't even get a birthday card from him last year.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/05/2016 at 2:03 pm
It may be that his income has to change for longer than a fortnight for the CSA to re-assess his situation. I suggest he clarifies this with the CSA first. However, if your boyfriend disagrees with the CSA's decision, he can complain or appeal
Blossom 05/05/2016 at 7:05 pm
My boyfriend has been off work for nine weeks due to ill health. He kept in touch with CSA to inform them he's off work ill so they couldn't take any money as his wage was too low. He's only just gone back full time and CSA have been in touch with his employer saying he has to pay back the money he missed while he was on sick leave which is £200 one week and £180 the next. Is this right? Are they allowed to do this when someone has been off work ill? I'm sure CSA should get in touch with the father before contacting someone employer. Can someone please help as it is causing him too much stress. Thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/05/2016 at 11:41 am
Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here which I hope helps answer your question.
Dan 02/05/2016 at 2:38 pm
My daughter is sixteen and will leave school this summer, despite the new ruling, she will not be continuing with education. Do I still have to continue to pay maintenance? I have a son that is still in education, how much will my maintenance payments be reduced when my daughter leaves school, is it 50% per child ?
Tartufe 30/04/2016 at 11:44 pm
Hi. I have to travel every two weeks 300 miles (wales-shropshire-wales) on friday and 300miles on sunday to spend two days with my boy. Can I deduct some money for fuel from my payments?
Jen 29/04/2016 at 2:47 pm
Hi, I have a 11 year old boy and up to know my ex husband has been paying child maintains but now he has stopped because he not working. We have a court order regarding child maintains and he has to pay until my son is in full time education. What do I do?

Thanks
Jen 29/04/2016 at 2:43 pm
Hi,my ex husband has just stopped paying child maintains because he is not working at the moment but we have a court order saying he has to pay till our son is still in full time education. What do I do?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 26/04/2016 at 12:21 pm
Unfortunately, it is very tricky to be able to offer help in circumstances where either the CSA or CMS cannot. Your only option is to seek legal advice about possibly taking the matter to court. However, if your ex is self-employed and is declaring a particular income for instance, then it may be just as impossible for the courts to extract the money as it is the CSA. Therefore, you would have to ensure you have the correct advice as you could be also saddled with legal costs. However, if he is blatantly avoiding the CSA/CMS and is earning a wage, then please see CAB link here regarding how payments can be enforced.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/04/2016 at 10:44 am
If your child is in your care and you are currently considered the primary carer, you should not have to pay the maintenance directly to the mother. If payment goes through the CSA or CMS then I suggest you contact the agency directly. Please see link, here. I hope this helps.
Me :) 25/04/2016 at 7:59 pm
Hi, I'm wondering if you can help me. My ex has managed to evade the csa (occurring over £4000 worth of arrears) and now the cms with additional arrears. He contacts them just enough for them to get a figure then he disappears off the radar and I've not recieved a penny. He's let my 8 year old son down so much that the poor little mite has developed emotional issues that effect his schooling and social life. He's told his dad he doesn't want to see him anymore!

Is there anything more I can do to chase this outstanding money?! I'm a single working mother and have been since 2010 when I left, also carrying all the debts from the relationship as he was clever enough to wriggle out of!!

Help :)
Scott1981 25/04/2016 at 12:44 pm
Hoping someone can help. My 6 year old son has been remover from his mother care due to her alcoholism and I have an interim interdict from the courts in place meaning he resides with me until she can prove to the child services she has cleaned herself up. Access is not an issue she will have I'm every second week for thE weekend and possible 1 day through the week. She is not aloud to be with him overnight on her own so will stay at her mums house so her mum can police the visit I've she's not drunk in charge of him. My question is I pay £400 a month maintenance to her but if he is not in her care for the time being do I still have to pay this maintenance. Am thinking not but would be good to know someone elese views. Thank you.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/04/2016 at 12:04 pm
If your children have left home, then child maintenance payments would stop (they usually stop when you are no longer entitled to Child Benefit). Regarding the money he owes; much depends on who has estimated how much he owes and why the money hasn't been obtained to date. The lack of information here makes it difficult to advise on, but if you wanted to take the matter to court I suggest you take some legal advice as to whether a solicitor considers it worthwhile.
Tori 21/04/2016 at 5:03 pm
What happens when your ex partner owes you thousands of back dated payments but your children leave home? Does he still have to pay what he owes or should the payments stop?
mummy 20/04/2016 at 5:42 pm
My son leaves school this year he is 16 in may if he is going to college to do uniformed services do I still pay maintenance as we have agreed in the past
SeparatedDads Editor 15/04/2016 at 2:32 pm
I'm afraid maintenance payments and child access have no relevance to each other, meaning your ex can't stop you seeing your child if you can't pay maintenance (i.e if you lose your job), likewise if your ex stops you seeing your child for any reason, you still are seen as being responsible for having to support her financially. If the mother won't let you see your daughter, then in order to re-establish contact please see link: When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access
Baby G 14/04/2016 at 4:59 pm
The mother won't let me see my daughter do I still have to continue paying maintenance..!!!
tiredfather 09/04/2016 at 12:58 pm
Hi I was wondering if you could please offer some advice. I pay weekly child maintenance £35 and I am constantly asking the ex for clothes to be provided each time this is ignored. So I am having to pay for school clothes, coats, shoes, basically everything for when she is in my care.
Can these expenses be taken off from my maintenence payments I'm sick of being taken for a mug. It's just another game they enjoy playing to ruin relations and to try and show power. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 06/04/2016 at 2:56 pm
I am sorry to hear this, but sad that you have taken this approach regarding your child.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/04/2016 at 2:16 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course or until they turn 20. Child maintenance payments are based solely upon the father's earnings and contribution to his children's upbringing, and have no bearing on the finances of the mother's partner.
Lee 05/04/2016 at 11:36 pm
Due to this stupid law that allows the mother to screw the father for payment, when they know full well the kid is no longer in full time education.

Because of this I completely disowned my child, I will have nothing to do with her or the monies grabbing mother who lied to keep collecting child benefit.
Booboo 05/04/2016 at 8:33 pm
My wife and I divorced and I agreed to pay £200 each month for our 2 Boys. She lives with a wealthy farmer and lives rent free in a large house which is owned outright by The Boyfriend. My eldest child now works full time but the youngest is on the second year of a 2 year A Level equivalent course. He will be 19 when he finished college. He did do one year A Levels but failed all of his exams so left and went to college to study instead. At 18 I stopped payments but my ex wife is now saying I still have to pay maintenance for another 12 months until he finishes College. Is she right?.She still receives child benefit but her live in partner has millions. Does anybody know whether I will have to pay maintenance or not? If she is insistent I pay, could she involve the.child maintenance service?
SeparatedDads Editor 05/04/2016 at 2:10 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what the child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, and regardless of other earnings, then his maintenance payments will continue until his child finishes the course. Unfortunately if your husband voluntarily agreed to signing the house over to his ex when they split, there is little he can do regarding equity that was released once the house was sold. He would have to seek legal advice if he thinks the division of assets was unfair.
ToBeFair 04/04/2016 at 6:16 pm
My husband pays maintenance for his 17yr old (18 this year) and he also pays for their monthly mobile phone bill. The mother is married with an additional 2 children and they have double the income my husband and I have. The 17yr old is doing a college course 3 days a week and works in the evenings, earning nearly £300 per week. Should my husband still be paying maintenance? When should it stop?

NB: My husband signed his share of the house he had with his ex when they split. When she sold the house and bought a joint house with her current partner (husband), she made nearly £70k equity. My husband and I have always provided a bedroom at our house, equipped with a fully clothed wardrobe, TV, holidays and days out etc). Up until recently, the
Child stayed with us 2/3 days a week) I think we've done more than our fair share, especially now the 17yr old earns a good wage.

Thank you in advance for your help.
whizz 03/04/2016 at 11:28 am
I'm a PWC
Initially I asked nrp for shoes, uniform and dog food for our son's dog (autism)
NRP agreed buy then wouldn't provide when I asked for school shoes.
Children had anytime access with NRP, until his new gf decided she didn't want them around. Children's access dropped from being able to ring and go round to 6 hours a fortnight, the following fortnight to 4 hours and then a total refusal to "babysit for me" (4 hours a month, Sunday 12n til 4pm)
Eventually, I met someone and moved away. Had the S'S on the doorstep first thing Monday morn as NRP said I was violent toward them. He'd seen them for 4 hours in the 12 weeks before. (And was abusive himself toward the children, and me but only me when I was pregnant)
I made a claim to the csa... but since then there's been a very unmerry dance.
He swaps his job everytime the csa put a DOE on him so he now owes around 10k. He refuses contact when I take them down because he's always 'working'. He coukdnt even fit them in for an hour in a week.
He's never been to see them.
In 10 years he's seen them 3 times. No cards, no calls, blocked them on facebook.
I really feel for those dad's who got screwed on the other side (my fella being one of them). I just thought he'd be decent about his offspring but then... when I met him he was separating from his wife and didn't see his eldest because his wife didn't like her... Lord knows why, she's lovely with 3 wonderful children, and her mother raised her brilliantly even without nrps help... I'm going to her wedding in july!
Marco 02/04/2016 at 7:09 am
Hi, I pay £290 a month via CSA for my two children aged 15 and 12. They live with me three days per week. My son aged 15 is 16 next week and is likely to go to college from September. My question is, can I pay any of the child support money directly to my son rather than to his mother after he is 16? Thank you.
Cookie 01/04/2016 at 6:25 pm
I separated from my wife almost 4 years ago. There was two payments left on the mortgage which i payed. She has been living in the house with her new partner 7 months after i left rent & mortgage free, I have been paying csa to her since i left aswell. Is this right,as I was under impression you either pay csa or the mortgage. I find it very unfair, im paying her money to live in the house which I payed in full and I am struggling to make ends meet as she wont co operate with solicitors to sort out the assets. Any advice would be appreciated thanks
badbob50 28/03/2016 at 2:44 pm
Help. My daughter has now turned 19.not in full time education. Am I stillliable for CSA payment?
SeparatedDads Editor 21/03/2016 at 10:36 am
You can see via the CMS calculator herehow much you should be paying, the site also advises how maintenance is paid and its advisers can also give you direction if you wish to give them a call. In this instance, I think contacting the CMS directly will help you figure out exactly what you should and should not be paying for, in official terms.
Pitchrider 20/03/2016 at 12:59 am
Hi, I havea 14 year old daughter who i have at least 3 nights a week. Some times it is more and rarely it is less. I am a nurse and work different shift patterns every week so have my daughhter as much as i can.

Her mum has tax credits and her father (my daughters grandfather) has her every thursday without fail and she also goes to her mums mum (nan) once a fortnight.

We have a private agreement but my question is:

Technically we have her the same amount of time, sometimes i have her more if my daughter is at her nans and grandads in one week. Do i have to pay her maintenance when i pay for all her bus fairs, uniforms and other sundries And also pay her Mum when she spends nothing on her! I read somewhere that if you can prove you have equal amount then neither parent is classed as a paying parent?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Kind Regards

MArk
Bob 13/03/2016 at 3:10 pm
Hi on the new CMS system how does self employment work now? As before they would by my tax return after my normal expenses fuel, tools etc.. I've heard it goes on the amount earnt now before any deductions is this correct and if they do allow reasonable expenses what are they as I use a lot of fuel travelling to work and back. Thanks
Eric 12/03/2016 at 8:37 am
In 2008 I went to court to gain custody of my sons (then 6 and 10). I won. The boys Mother had decided to emigrate to Australia with her new man and their daughter. The courts wouldnt let her take my boys away. So .... She went without them and she didnt see the boys for almost 18 months
However, Australia and her new man didnt work out and she came back. In the best interests of the boys, when their mother got her self sorted out, two years after I had them full fime, I agreed to shared care.
My circumstances changed last year and my sons needed to go and live with their Mother full time. I paid her maintenance for my weeks.
I am now in the position to have my sons back and returned to the shared care arrangement but she has refused. I am not being unfair when i say she wants to have our sons (13 and 16) full time as she likes the extra money and my eldest son provides childcare for her daughter.
She has applied for maintenance and has been awarded it even though I still have the court order for full custody. Now I have been told that I have to pay get £300 per month.
I still have the court order in my name so how can she be awarded maintenance? Can anyone advise me of my rights and next steps please.
Rache Editor 10/03/2016 at 11:40 am
@SJSime - OMG - you are a saint, but your ex is just plain greedy. She's the type that gives decent women a bad name.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/03/2016 at 11:36 am
I am sorry to hear this and it seems you are doing the very best you can under the circumstances. However, you are under no obligation to pay for your ex's children, that is up to the biological father. The CMS/CSA will neither expect you to pay this money. In fact you can see how much you should be paying for your biological child whichAt the same time access and child maintenance are not linked - and if your ex is threatening to withdraw access as a result, this is effectively blackmail, which you should not rise to. You may find our new Separated Dads forum useful for some further advice (you can see the link at the bottom of the page). Just to add; mediation may be the way forward, and you could agree to buying Christmas presents and birthday presents for your non-bio children and perhaps support them with pocket money etc, should you wish. However, that is where your financial obligation should end.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/03/2016 at 2:42 pm
Unfortunately, regardless of whether your name is on the birth certificate, or whether you see your child or not, as the father you are considered financially responsible for your child and therefore if the mother names you, then if you are earning a wage then you will have to pay. However, at the same time, you have the right as the father of your child to apply for access through the courts to see your son.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/03/2016 at 2:38 pm
Yes, if her job is a part-time one to earn some pocket money for herself, and she is still in full-time government approved education, you will still pay until she finishes the course.
SJSime 09/03/2016 at 11:11 am
Morning,

I have a situation where my ex is trying to get maintenance money out of me for her 2 sons which I brought up when I was with her for 4 years. She no longer gets maintenance from there bio father and now wants money off me.

I pay her maintenance for my daughter we have together for £252.00 a month. We are going to mediation later this month but she is really pushing me for more money and I believe I should not be paying for her children. I am giving them a father figure and also support her with gifts for birthdays for all 3 and at Christmas. I also pay 50% to school uniform every year for all 3 children.

Please advise as I believe if I do not up the payment I am giving she will stop me seeing her sons I have a bond with and also my daughter.

Please can you advise me on where I should go next she is asking me to get a figure from CSA for 3 children.
sam 09/03/2016 at 3:09 am
I'm 18 and working now so it made me curious, i am not allowed to have contact with my son and he does not share my last name would i still have to pay? What are my rights? If i am ordered to pay then does it increase my right to see him? Because as heartless as it may seem im not paying for a child that i cannot participate in raising, its unfair to make someone do that. You can't have both sides of the pie, could i fight in court and refuse to pay on the grounds that he should be with me a certain amount of the week and thats how i will share the responsibility instead of paying without contact
Andy 08/03/2016 at 10:26 pm
My daughter is in college but works over 20hrs a week do I still pay ?
strubby 03/03/2016 at 11:50 am
I have my 2 children for two evenings a week for 4 plus hours at a time as I am in full time employment as is my new partner I pay full child maintence as I don't have them to sleep at this current time my ex wife and mother off the children has now said she is taking me to court so I have to have them more as she doesn't have alife can I just add she dosent work for a living and spends most days in saloons and the gym or coffee mornings with her friends
where do we stand on this has she a case
SeparatedDads Editor 02/03/2016 at 12:57 pm
You can apply for Parental Responsibility, please see gov.uk which
Owlsmad 01/03/2016 at 10:26 pm
Wondering if anyone can help I'm not on my daughters birth certificate the mother won't let me she says I need to "prove" I'll b a good I have a on off relationship we my daughter mum but I want to be in my daughter life who do I get in touch with as she's I know she gets Benifits child tax n income support n all that as she declared I'm not my daughters dad???
SeparatedDads Editor 01/03/2016 at 1:56 pm
Yes, if she has named you as the father and put in a claim.
Lucas24 29/02/2016 at 4:38 pm
I had no relationship with the mother. Met on a night out and now I'm being told I have to pay child maintenance. Is this right?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/02/2016 at 11:19 am
I'm afraid I can't advise what the court may decide, much will depend on how long she was with your ex, and how long she lived in the house and what she contributed etc. The main concern of the courts will be the children and their welfare, and often the courts will let the resident-parent remain in the house until the children are of an age when they become independent. Please see CAB whichIf your boyfriend can't afford the payments, the court will take this into consideration on the basis of his financial breakdown.
Chlo 27/02/2016 at 7:38 pm
Hello, my boyfriend is paying CSA/CMS! He pays £622 a month for 2 children but his ex is also living in his propert (mortgage) she had no financial or benifical intresed in the property, my boyfriends mum gave him money to by the house so it all his money on the house and it's in his name not hers!
So my boyfriend is paying CSA/CMS and he is also paying 500 for his mortgage so all together he is paying 1,122 and also he is still paying gas and electric in the property! It's now going court because she won't leave the property or stop the CSA / CMS so it had to come to this because he can't afford this anymore! She is saying that she has no were to go but we have oferd to give her a deposit on another property and her boyfriend is also living there rent free to and not paying a penny! We are not sure how it is going to court because she has made so many lies! She has got an occupation order and him because we got her out of the house and changed the locks and she got this order so in court this might work in her favour! But he bottom line is my boyfriend can afford it! If you have an advice please let me know. Thank You
Spooky58 27/02/2016 at 11:53 am
Hello, just want to clear something up please? My husband has a verbal agreement with his ex wife for him to pay an amount into her bank account each month for the support of their daughter.....is this verbal agreement valid and safe? Could the ex wife try to claim more at any time in the future? He knows he will pay for the daughter all the time she is at college, its after that when payments stop he is worried that the ex will be vindictive. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
none 26/02/2016 at 8:46 pm
How do I find out if my daughter is working
I pay money into my x wife's bank account
I have no contact with my x or my daughter
My daughter is nineteen years of age.I know that if she is doing twelve hours or more I need to continue paying. Can I ask for proof of these hours .Can I ask to pay any monies due into my daughters bank account.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/02/2016 at 2:51 pm
Child maintenance falls in line with when child benefit stops, which will tell you whether you should still pay or not. If your child is earning, then it is unlikely you will continue to pay.
Dazza 25/02/2016 at 8:11 pm
I could let me know I have paid csa for 12 years for my two lads my eldest who is 16 nearly 17 and got an apprenticeship earning 120 pounds a week goes to college one day a week do I still pay for two kids or just my youngest ?
SeparatedDads Editor 25/02/2016 at 12:03 pm
The school year officially ends at the beginning of September, therefore you should in theory continue paying until this time.
Dad24 24/02/2016 at 8:13 am
Hello, I'm after a little advice please. My child is 18 and studying A Levels. Her Exams finish in May and she will be going to Uni in Sep. In the interim she will be working. My payments were agreed through my Ex's solicitor and state shall be payed until the end of full time education. I read that as the end of the Exams and do not wish to pay past that, although I will make a few payments to my daughter before she starts Uni so she has a little cash. When are you legally obliged to pay up to? Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 22/02/2016 at 2:08 pm
If you have had other children, then yes as this may affect/reduce how much you have to pay. You can see how much you should be paying via the CMS calculator here.
Dad123 21/02/2016 at 5:15 pm
Hello all. I'm after a little advice. I was divorced 6 years ago and had an agreement on divorce that I was to pay £450 per month for my 2 children.
Since then we both moved on with new partners and both had another child. She and I are both cohabit with our partners.
I have my children 1 night a week and every other weekend. Plus a week in the main holidays. CSA calculator £340 a month.
Question is can I or should I ask for a review of the payment?
Regards
Double 19/02/2016 at 6:07 pm
Hi there, I have been paying for my Son via a family based arrangement since his Mum and I split up. The amount has always been fair and in proportion to what I was earning at any given time.

My problem comes when you take into account that my Son's Mum has not had a bank account in all that time, so as we have got on ok for the most part, I had no worries about giving her cash as opposed to a bank transfer.

Things have got pretty difficult recently though, to the point where I received a text from her to the effect that she will be contacting CMS to claim 8 years' back dated payments.

Where do I stand here?
Unsure dad 19/02/2016 at 8:19 am
So when my son was conceived I was not married nor was I when he was born. 4 months before my son was born me and my ex partner split up I was not allowed to go to the birth and only saw my son when he was 2 weeks old. I was never put on the birth certificate. Me and my ex partner got back together when my son was 1 month old then when he was 18 months old we got married. We split up and got divorced when he was 12 since then I ha e been paying a family based agreement. However in October 2014 I wanted some advise so I spoke to the CSA who told me that as I was not married at conception and not on the birth certificate we would have to do a DNA test to prove my son was mine and then I could go on the birth certificate and that I should stop paying until it is proven he is my child. I did stop paying but my ex wife made so much trouble for me with my employers that I nearly lost my job through her lies that I started paying again. Now as neither her or my son will ha e nothing to do with me and she will not prove he is my son. Do I still have to pay as it is crippling me paying such a lot of money every month and not even being able to see my son is frankly doing my head in.
I know she is on benefits income support council tax benefit and disability benefit both for her and my son and she gets careers allowance for my son and then my money which she is not declaring because of all of that she can afford to jet off 4 times a year abroad whilst I'm left saving the tokens from the sun for a £9 holiday just so I can get away once a year.
Is she comiting benefit fraud by not telling them about the £300 she is getting off me every month. Will she have a leg to stand on if I stop the payments.
If you have any advise please let me know. Thank you.
Confused 13/02/2016 at 1:35 am
Hi, Just got letter for first time in years from CSA current arrangement for case ends 11-08-2016
2009 - 2010 Set up an arrangement family based
Dec 2010 mother and partner arrested did not know this until April 11 due to abuse police did not tell me. Payed monies until May 2011 as bank account was closed and advised by police to stop paying.
So payments stopped as mother was no longer carer of child. The parent receiving the payment stops being the main carer of the child so I could not pay?
Mother did not contact CSA as in prison and I was so distraught due what had happened to my child all the family legal proceedings, social services etc. did not realize I had not told CSA or needed too.
May 11 Offered to make payments to carers of child via police and again when meet carers while child in care order but they refused my help. Saw daughter first time in year Oct 11.
Mother was convicted December 11 4 years – later increased to 8 years March 12.
Mother released on probation December 15.
My daughter was with half-brother (older) when abuse happened, social services and all stakeholders wanted to keep children together so I could not look after my daughter alone, although I had done nothing wrong. Carers of child became special guardians July 2012 still do not want my help, they get paid by local authority, they are aware of me but have not chased me.
Mother is not allowed to care for people under 18years so will not get child back.
What happens? I hope I dont get hammered but things were done out of my control
SeparatedDads Editor 12/02/2016 at 10:44 am
You should not be paying if he is not in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week. You should also stop paying if his child benefit has ceased. If you are paying through the CSA/CMS, then you may be able to reclaim the money back if you have overpaid. Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 11/02/2016 at 3:06 pm
You'll stop paying at the end of the school year, which is the end of August. If you're paying through the CSA/CMS they 'should' inform you.
SeparatedDads Editor 11/02/2016 at 3:00 pm
The mother is correct, you will officially stop paying at the end of the school year, which is the end of August.
jack 11/02/2016 at 11:53 am
My son is 19 next month and I assumed I would stop paying for him then. He attends college 2 days a week but works in a bookmakers for 32 hours a week ( for almost a year now ) and earns around £ 300 a week... am I still expected or should I still be paying for him.
SeparatedDads Editor 09/02/2016 at 11:39 am
You can find out more via the CMS site here which should tell you how much you will be paying, as it depends what income band you are.
SDog 08/02/2016 at 8:37 pm
I have 2 children with different mums. So I pay 20% of my income. I'll not have to pay for my eldest soon, does my payment decrease to 10% or 15%?

Regards
SeparatedDads Editor 08/02/2016 at 11:39 am
If the payments are made directly to your husband's son, then your husband should really speak with the CMS regarding this, in order to make sure the arrangement is clarified. The money paid to the children's mother (or son in this case) is allocated for their day-to-day care which includes food, clothing, household bills etc. Anything above and beyond that is up to your husband to provide as extra i.e taking them out. Unfortunately, in this case the children will be losing out directly, but as his mother made the decision to go directly to the CMS, then there is nothing you can really do here, apart from think of alternative ways to spend time with the children which don't cost as much or that are free.
EssayBlogger 07/02/2016 at 2:45 pm
Hi, I have a question about CMS payments - my husband had a family arrangement previously where he paid some money to his kids via Osper cards, some to the kids' mum for bills etc (she and the kids were living rent free with my husband's mother) and the rest in costs to travel to see them and take them places each week. Now the kids' mum has gone to CMS and my husband has to give £120 a week just to the mum; we can't afford to give extra to the kids so their Osper cards have zero money on them, and we can't afford for him to go see them or take them out. Added to this the kids' mum is refusing to give us or the CMS her bank details and insisting instead we put the money into her teenage son's bank account instead. Surely this isn't legal? The son is part of the CMS claim, and it seems like the other is being very difficult - perhaps she has ulterior motives to claim we aren't making CMS payments if we just pay to her son. I read somewhere that any payments direct to kids aren't included in CMS maintenance calculations. Anyone got a definitive legal sterr on payments needing to be to the RP only?
Offshore Stu 06/02/2016 at 10:03 pm
Hi,
Looking for a bit of guidance if someone is kind enough please.
Twin daughters turn 18 at beginning of June and are looking at uni/year off each.
They are currently doing a-levels.
Question is, do I stop paying end of june, end of Aug or when? Can't find anything concrete!
CSA not involved, always paid by standing order for 15 years. Don't get on well enough with ex to ask....

Cheers
Stu
Gaz1 06/02/2016 at 3:34 pm
My daughter is finishing her college course in May when she also turns 18 . Her mother is claiming i have to keep paying until the end of the school year , she is stating August ! My understanding is i can stop paying when my daughter completes her course in May. Which is correct please ?
SeparatedDads Editor 03/02/2016 at 12:43 pm
If your daughter has a part-time job, but is still in full-time government approved education, then you would still be eligible to pay. Your payments can cease when either the mother stops receiving child benefit, or your daughter leaves education and/or finishes her course. Please see link:
MadHatter 02/02/2016 at 10:13 pm
Being paying maintenance for my two children since 2007 (Mutual understanding)
My eldest was 16 in 2015 but continued studies in Sixth form at same academy.
she also works as a waitress(3 nights a week) at a local restaurant.
I'm finding it hard to figure out if i should be stopping payments for her as she is working.
Also I'm not sure if their mother receives any benefits as i get no answer from her and i cant get any information legally as it comes under the Data protection.

Help!
SeparatedDads Editor 02/02/2016 at 3:08 pm
Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here which should answer your question. As a rule if she is in a paid apprenticeship, then child maintenance payments would stop.
happy 02/02/2016 at 2:59 pm
Hi my daughter is in a apprenticeship in a work place . And is turning 18 very soon. She's at college 1 day a week. Do I have to pay maintenance still.

Feedback would be appreciated.
Jim Editor 01/02/2016 at 2:34 pm
@Pauly - If your ex gives the child benefit back in tax, then it is a bit mean for her not to award it to you! If your ex is a high earner you would be eligible to claim maintenence from her only if you were classified as the resident parent.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/02/2016 at 11:57 am
You can see via the CMS Options calculator here. I hope this helps.
Pauly 01/02/2016 at 10:44 am
Question: I have 2 children, who live with me 3 nights per week. Child benefits are paid to me for 1 child, their mum claims for the other (but repays it in tax as she is a high earner)
I pay child maintenance for both children,also pay for normal living expenses, haircuts, holiday, clothes, tuition, etc. I attend school meetings, take them to doctor appointments and generally keep life as normal as possible for them.
It seems an unfair situation that I pay their mum for their care but I have all the same expenses. When I question with Child maintenance services I get different responses, they say if I have the children 3.5 nights per week I wouldn't pay any maintenance (I am reluctant to change their time to 3 nights with one parent then 4 with another as it is a bit unsettling to change each week. Other times I have been told if I get child benefit then I need to claim maintenance from their mum?!
Can anyone give a more definitive answer so if I do broach the subject with their mum I know where I stand?
bubbles 31/01/2016 at 2:48 pm
my grandsons father has another son is now living with a lass who is having his baby she has 2 children also he pays maintainance for the son but wont pay for my grandson how will csa work this out they are on with it but need help
whiskey 29/01/2016 at 5:24 pm
My son is a full time university student. Does he have to pay CSA
SeparatedDads Editor 29/01/2016 at 12:41 pm
I can only suggest you complain directly to the CSA, You may be able to find the evidence of your payments on bank receipts etc if you have been paying on to a store card. However, you are unlikely to be able to prove this if you have paid in cash.
Plonker84 28/01/2016 at 6:09 pm
Hi hoping for some advice, I've just recently been told there is a csa case open for almost a year now. My ex partner has told them I never have my two sons and never pay any money meaning I have large arrears. Csa have until recently not been given the correct contact information for me from her even though she has always had it. As we had what I thought was a mutual agreement I've been paying money every month onto a supermarket shopping card as she's not the most responsible and also purchased the children's bedroom furniture, seasonal wardrobes and so on as well as having them very regularly. I've not kept receipts as I didn't think she would go behind my back but have messages from her stating I've paid onto the card and made purchases such as the bed. Any advice here would be much appreciated as I've been totally made an idiot out of in this scenario :(
mummyof6 24/01/2016 at 7:50 pm
Hi, I'm looking for some advice for my partner please. He divorced his sons mum 5 years ago ( child is now 7) and up until our son was born 13 months ago he was paying her £150 a month in maintanence. He now pays £100, which was agreed by both my partner and his ex. We have the little boy every week from Friday after school - Sunday 8pm.
I have 4 children from my ex husband and have a new baby due in April. My partner lost his job when i was pregnant with our 13 month old but still continued to pay £100 even though he was on considerbly less money. He went on the CSA calculator and it says that on his current wage and with the other children in the household he should be paying £86 per month. Obviously his ex is going mad calling him all the names under the sun ( hes a bad dad, is stealing from his son etc!! ) Ans she is also claiming that as her son is my partners eldest child that he should get more money. I know this is rubbish as my ex husband pays the exact same amount for our 4 children and shes confusing the eldest child thing getting more money with child benefit. Can anyone offer any advise please, I treat my partners son exacly the same as my own children and we take him on holiday with us every year. This is causing alot of stress and upset to my partner as he isnt a bad father, he is an excellent dad who on top of maintenence buys him clothes, trainers,and all his school uniform, including shoes every year
Twilight 22/01/2016 at 11:05 am
I'm hoping someone can advise:
If my ex-wife is the recipient of Child Benefit, will this reduce the amount of Child Maintenance that I'm expected to pay?
Also, as I am the recipient of Child Tax Credit, will this be reduced due to the fact that my daughter will only spend 2-3 nights per week with me?
I'm aware that CTC cannot be split between parents, but will the recipient receive a reduced amount due to the change in circumstances?
I can't get any clarity on this issue from HMRC.
Many thanks in advance for your assistance
SeparatedDads Editor 20/01/2016 at 11:46 am
Have you tried contacting Child Benefit directly? As his ex may be claiming illegally, if your stepson is earning a living.
Mac1 19/01/2016 at 11:35 pm
Hi, my 19 year old, has left college in Dec 2015. I have been on to CSA to tell them, They say as long as her mother gets child credit they will not do anything. Child credit have said that they have not been told that she has left college. Both agents want me to prove that she has left college. How can i do this, her mother took her away from me over 12yrs ago. ??

I have been watching her grow and know , things like what college she went to.
Friends of friends kids went to the same school, 1 even works with her

anyhelp would begreatful
H 19/01/2016 at 1:45 pm
Hi, I'm hoping you can give me some advice. My 18 year old stepson started a paid apprenticeship in September. Despite this the CSA have still be collecting maintenence payments from my partners wages. He's phoned them several times but has been told they can't stop the payments until his ex has informed child benefit of the changes. She still hasn't done this and I was wondering if there's anything we can do?
Many thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/01/2016 at 1:44 pm
If your ex is no longer in receipt of Child Benefit, then she is not entitled to claim child support. In order for her to be eligible to claim your son must be in government approved training and the training should be unpaid.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/01/2016 at 11:39 am
Her partner does not have to take direct financial responsibility for your daughter, it is your responsibility as her father to do this. However, because your current partner is also expecting a child then your circumstances will have changed according to the CSA/CMS and it may reduce your child support payments in line with you having now to be financially responsible for another child.
D3200NPhoto 18/01/2016 at 5:14 pm
My eldest Son that I'm paying CSA for is now 18 and completing a Level 2 Apprentice scheme, is my ex wife still entitled to claim for him? As he is getting paid for this work.
Mcsmith 18/01/2016 at 2:23 pm
Hi.

I pay slightly more than what the calculator on gov.uk ask of for my daughter. Now the ex is asking for more money.

My now wife and I are expecting our first child. The ex has had 2 more children with her boyfriend and have been living together for many years now. My question is, am I entitled for a reduction as her new partner should take some responsibility for my daughter?

It's not that I don't want to pay i actually pay for a lot more than just the fixed amount of maintenance. I just need to know wether her partner should accept that he should help with these cost.
NOwen 14/01/2016 at 4:35 pm
Can anyone advise me please?

I pay CSA to my ex partner, my family have him three days a week whilst she works and he goes to nursery the other two days of the week. I work full time. When my child is ill she keeps saying I have to take the days off work sick to be with him. Is there any law to say I have to do this?or because I pay CSA and she is his primary carer is this her responsibility. I love my son dearly and do the best for him but this has happened 4 times in the last month!
SeparatedDads Editor 14/01/2016 at 2:40 pm
I can only suggest you appeal, especially if you can prove you were paying through this time as part of a family-based arrangement. Please see link: here. I hope this helps.
Redeem 14/01/2016 at 12:09 am
I have a daughter in uni. She is 20yrs old. I left her mom in 2000 and paid maintenance monthly. When i met my wife in 2003 the ex turned nasty and wanted more money. She took it to the csa and they ruled an amount that was actually less than what i was paying her. Payments continued but privately, not via csa. Since then i have had 2 children and have continued to pay even when i am out of the country for work. Once my daughter got her own account; it was paid directly to her. Apart from this i pay for extras like private tuition, driving lessons and give my daughter more money as and when she need its. When she started uni at age 19 i paid her rent for halls and told her my payments would stop to enable her to stand on her feet and get a part time job, which she has since done. Today i got a call from csa stating that they are looking for arrears from 2005!!!! What do i do? Absolutely livid that this woman has the nerve to do this. She is very wealthy and apart from that my daughter has never gone without. How can i stop csa from doing this?
J 13/01/2016 at 7:09 pm
Thank you for this and yes it is sad when anybody gets cancer so thank you again
SeparatedDads Editor 13/01/2016 at 12:36 pm
How awful for your ex and your child/children, I am sorry to hear this. You still remain their father regardless of whether the mother is alive or not - therefore you will still be responsible for the financial welfare of your children until they are at least 16, and /or up until the age of 20 or more if they continue in further education.
J 12/01/2016 at 9:14 pm
My ex has been diagnosed with a malignant brain tumour inoperable, my question is do I have to pay child maintenance after she passes? She has been told she only has 18 months to live.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/01/2016 at 2:40 pm
No, if your daughter is no longer in full-time education, living at home or registered as eligible for child benefit then you do not have to support her. Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/01/2016 at 2:00 pm
You are entitled to pay for your child in a family-based arrangement. Please see CMS link here which outlines how you should do this. There is also a child maintenance calculator available on the website that will give you an indication on how much you should be paying.
Frustrated dad 12/01/2016 at 11:27 am
My 16 yo daughter quit her course of study late 2015 and moved away with other unemployed teenagers so she can smoke pot without my protests and now she wants me to support her bad habits by paying her child support! Am I still legally obligated?
HATE Csa 12/01/2016 at 1:01 am
So looking for advice FAST!!! I have an ex who decided to use Csa after I clearly stated I would pay for my child as that's what a farthers duty is to do. I have contacted the ex and come to an agreement of me paying the money directly into her bank rather than using Csa as I don't want to give Csa money for nothing (total scum bags) anyway I just want to know what is the best possible way to show I am still paying for my child and that it is for child maintenance and nothing else (gift, etc) I've read a few things about people having to pay twice as they have no evidence that they have paid and I don't want to end up doing that.
Thanks in advance
SeparatedDads Editor 08/01/2016 at 2:53 pm
You can see how much you should be paying whichEvery parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education , not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes or until they turn 20. I hope this helps.
MARKL 08/01/2016 at 2:20 pm
Hi

Can anyone help?

When I first started with the CSA in 1998 I remember reading that at certain ages payments were supposed to decrease. Am I correct, if so does anyone know what these age milestones are please?

I now have 2 daughters that I live with and 1 who I pay £568 pcm for. This means after all my outgoings I have £500 pcm to feed my family of 4.

Surely this can't be right?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/01/2016 at 11:24 am
If your financial circumstances had changed and you were/are not earning, then the CSA should have taken this into consideration. I can only suggest you make an official complaint via whichI hope this helps.
confused 07/01/2016 at 2:53 pm
Hi my daughter left college in june 2015 I have not seen her since she was 1 year old Not through my choice but my ex- partners choice! I have always paid to support her. last year I became ill and could not work so could not afford to pay which I contacted child support about but as per usual they did not care they just wanted what I didn't have. Any way to cut a long story short as my daughter had finished her education in may /june I assumed from detail on the .gov site that my csa payment should stop on the 31st august however I have just received a letter stating I have to pay till the 3rd January 2016 I asked why they said she was still getting child benefit I asked them to send me proof of this and they point blank refused. I call child benefit and they would not tell me as its not my claim. I have had hell from the csa for years and need to know are they obliged to send me proof that I owe this money up to january 2016.
SeparatedDads Editor 05/01/2016 at 11:26 am
If you are paying above the recommended child maintenance, then have you thought of paying your ex through the CMS directly? You can see how much you should legally be paying via the calculator here. You could then choose to invest, or buy the children what you feel they need with the surplus money.
Annoyed 04/01/2016 at 6:02 pm
Hi

I reached a financial agreement with my ex and paying a high amounts towards my kids. Have no problem with that as it was mutually agreed. However I have a problem with the fact that she is clearly not spending the amount towards the kids - you can tell. The kids were sleeping on mattresses for a couple of months while she had a lavish marriage. She is now pregnant with new hubby's baby (I assume lol)

My questions is this. I do not want to reduce payments towards my kids. However I want to safeguard their future so I have asked her for breakdown of how she spends the money. She naturally refused (as I am sure she knows what the figures will reveal). I have told her that I wish to pay her less money directly but the balance of the agreed amount into a separate account every month for my kids' future more expensive costs (such as uni fees, etc). How is this unreasonable? Also as a so-called parent, I would expect her to be ok with this.

Is there anything I can do to ensure that my kids will have sufficient money available for such costs in the future, or do I have to pay now so ex and new husband are comfortable and then pay again when uni fees come? I find it really unfair if there is nothing I can do. To repeat - I do not want to reduce maintenance payments at all but just ensure that they go towards where they are supposed to. Please advise.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/01/2016 at 12:16 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes or until they turn 20. These payments must continue to be made regardless of whether your ex is married or not.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/01/2016 at 11:46 am
You would need to contact the CSA directly regarding this.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/01/2016 at 11:45 am
A parent normally qualifies for Child Benefit if they are responsible for under 16 (or under 20 if they stay in approved education or training) and live in the UK. The qualifying parent will stop receiving Child Benefit immediately if the child starts paid work for 24 hours or more a week and is no longer in approved education or training, starts an apprenticeship in England or starts getting certain benefits in their own right, eg Income Support, Employment and Support Allowance or tax credits. If you think your ex was not eligible to claim, you would have the option of reporting her if she has intentionally not reported the change in circumstances.
steff 03/01/2016 at 3:51 pm
Hi. Can you clarify something for me, please? I pay child support monthly to my ex-wife for our son - I pay double what was stated in the divorce agreement; it was my decision to increase payments. She remarried a few years ago. I wish to continue providing financially for my son to the same amount, but would like to know if I am legally expected to do so, under Scottish law. Moreover, if the marriage failed would I again become legally expected to provide financial support? Grateful if you can clarify.
Mart 03/01/2016 at 2:29 pm
My daughter has been kicked out of college on her second week in September she has not been back and I have been paying csa is this right I don't think I should have been paying
Mart 03/01/2016 at 2:24 pm
My daughter got kicked out of college and has not been since middle of September but I'm still paying maintainance has her mother has not told child benefit or csa she has not been in college she is now saying she is starting college 18th January but why do I pay for 3 months when she has not been in college
Rachelg78 02/01/2016 at 8:27 pm
Hi folks,
My husband has always paid CSA for his son and his son has just turned 18. What I'm confused about is this, his son is studying A levels at 6th and hopes to go to uni, does my husband still have to pay support?
Charg 02/01/2016 at 11:57 am
My ex and I have been split for almost 3years and we have 3 children together, he didn't see the kids for a year and a half but after court proceedings he now has to have them every other weekend for 2nights. He lives at a property with his girlfriend and her 3children, the csa payments went down from when he moved in with her so he could pay towards her children despite her children's father paying £100a week towards his kids. Is this right? Does any of her money get calculated in this? I don't see why money for his own children would go down because he lives with children that are not his and already get child support for them. He has always been tight with money and this is just stupid how he can get away with paying hardly anything for his 3 children. Surely there is a way his own kids can get more ?(he technically pays more for his girlfriends children then his own)
Can you help 20/12/2015 at 11:13 pm
I had a 1 night stand with a black African girl she contacted me and said she was pregnant I said I didn't want the baby as I had 2 all ready we never spoke again I thought she had and ebortion she is now saying she wants Csa from me I can't afford this I I have 2 kids to support I am in shock that she keeped the baby I don't wish any harm but I feel like she used me to have a baby I am now married my wife will go crazy she is not a brittish citizen do i have to pay Csa as she contacted me to say she wants Csa then she will go home and live on my money can you advise me thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 10/12/2015 at 3:07 pm
You're welcome - I'm glad this worked out for you.
rjm 10/12/2015 at 1:32 pm
thank you so much for your help!! my husband stopped paying for his daughter when she left college, as CSA had told him he doesnt have to keep paying for her when she leaves full-time education, she was 18 at the time though. once again thank you for the help, we've got some clarity on the matter now as his ex is trying to make things hard for us, she has in the past tried to claim a percentage of my wages for CM - it never got approved though. :)
SeparatedDads Editor 10/12/2015 at 10:57 am
Your child will be taken into consideration once born and it will mean the payments towards his other children will be reviewed. It does not mean he will have to stop paying, but payments may be reduced. However, whether he should be paying for his 20 year old child would need to be looked into. If she is not in government approved full-time education or training, then he should not be paying. Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. I hope this helps.
rjm 09/12/2015 at 1:03 am
my husband and i have decided to have a baby, however, he has 2 children with his ex, his daughter will be 20 in May (she doesnt go to college and refuses to work), his son is currently going to college, he is 17, can my husband stop paying CM to his ex when our baby is born? their arrangement is through CSA - done by his ex wife. we just need some answers because i will be a stay-at-home mum once the baby is here. i currently work full time as does my husband
Curious 08/12/2015 at 5:53 pm
I'm currently having to pay for a child j have never seen nor did I ever want. The first I knew of it was when I got a letter from the CSA.

My question is if the mother were to die / disappear would I be able to stop paying?
SeparatedDads Editor 07/12/2015 at 10:40 am
You don't say whether it's a family-based maintenance agreement or through the CSA/CMS. If it's family-based then it's up to your husband to negotiate with his ex, how he pays. It's a tricky situation if he is paying through the CSA or CMS and they would need to look into this for you. If he feels he is being treated unfairly, he can complain, I hope this helps.
lee 04/12/2015 at 2:43 pm
my husband pays cm to his ex for his daughter,who will turn 18 in may,she is currently on another college course,supposebly for 2 years ,just started in sept,she did a years course from 16 to 17,our question is when can we stop paying to her mother,(we pay so much to her and then some to his daughter,shes not Willing to get a job ,and it seems shes living off what we give her everymonth,shes told us shes doing over 12 hours at college but never seems to be there,we only get to know what she and mum want us to know and they are neverquick in telling us the truth,weve also been told that shes staying at her grandmothers most of the time,it seems unfair to be paying the mother to keep her when shes not there we would rather give it to his daughter.i was also told that while ever shes getting child benefit we should pay c m ,and that the mother can can cb while the daughter is in part time education,but what if shes not in college and mother not informed child benefit about this ,what happens then ,can I just add my husband has maintenance since his daughter was born and he was not able to see her due to her mother ,it wasnt until we had our son that the mother decided he could have a relationship with his daughter by this time his daughter was 10 and they both missed out of having a dad daughter relationship,
SeparatedDads Editor 04/12/2015 at 2:27 pm
It depends upon his earnings. If he does not think he should be paying this, he can check via the Child Maintenance Options calculator here. I hope this helps.
Candy 04/12/2015 at 11:18 am
My partner has 2 children (one of which is 16). His ex has not let him see the children for nearly 2 years. The CSA take £295.00 every two weeks out of his account, he has never been contacted about these payments and was never asked permission from the CSA to take this from his account. Surely this amount of money they take a month (£590) is way too excessive, and by law are the CSA allowed to take this money?
PB 28/11/2015 at 6:56 pm
Hi, i have agreed to pay £200 a month to my ex for my son and I have him 3 nights a week. I feel this is OTT already however it is what it is.

However my question is about School Holidays. I have just been informed by my ex that she expects me to now have my son for half of all school holidays going forwards. If I haven't got the available holiday I should be paying for additional childcare. Is this right?

Your advice would be appricated

Paul
JD89 28/11/2015 at 12:23 am
Hi there,

I am currently paying child maintenence for my daughter based on calculations on the government website. If she decides to prevent me seeing my daughter am I still obligated to pay it?

Kind regards
Michael 26/11/2015 at 1:22 pm
Am I correct in stating that a child over 16 years of age in full time education means MORE THAN 12 HOURS PER WEEK? If this is correct where does it state this in legistlation please?
SeparatedDads Editor 26/11/2015 at 10:30 am
If you are unhappy with the service from CSA, you can complain, I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 25/11/2015 at 2:14 pm
You are perfectly within your rights to approach the CMS for child maintenance and there is no reason why this would affect his job. However, your application may have be arranged through an Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order (REMO) agreement if his job is outside the UK.
BOB 25/11/2015 at 1:40 pm
Please help me,
I am currently in a battle regarding how much child maintenance I have to pay. When I left my wife I gave everything to her apart from £5000 which I used to buy myself a bed, plates, cups etc. She had the house the car and the contents of the house and most importantly, my children. I lived in a room in my brothers house. We paid off all our joint debts so she was debt free. I also paid her £1000 a month for about 6 months to help ease the shock of me leaving. Reducing by £200 a month until the correct monthly payment was met.
Now 6 years later, a divorce, court orders and interventions with CSA all at her doing, I'm more than happy to fully support my children, I am still trying to keep her happy. I work in a school that pays me term time only. I don't get paid through school holidays and the pay is not split through 12 monthly payments so I have to budget carefully to get through the holidays. I get 8 payslips a year. CSA don't seem to recognise this, despite phone contact and written contact from my workplace to tell them how they pay me CSA have calculated that I earn about £9000 more each year based on three wage slips. I really do want to pay the correct amount of money. I am not trying to shirk my responsibility but how can I pay her more than I actually earn? I have sent my P60 but apparently this isn't proof of my earnings. I have also sent my payslips, but as I don't get payslips during the months that the school is on holiday I don't get 12 wage slips a year. My total wage £21000 a year so you can see that I don't have lots of money spare to give her. She has a household income of about around £50,000 as she has remarried. I know this isn't considered but I just want it to be clear that I haven't left her destitute!
Please can someone help me, how on earth am I supposed to prove my income if they wont except my P60 as proof of earnings and don't believe me or my employer that I don't get paid during the school holidays? Will I be paying more than I should for the next 10years?
08AV 25/11/2015 at 4:02 am
My 2 sons dad will be attending the DPS academy in a few months. Will me filling for child support affect his job in any type of way?
SeparatedDads Editor 23/11/2015 at 1:54 pm
Payments of child maintenance are based on your earnings, therefore your payments should be reduced accordingly. If you pay through the CMS/CSA, you would have to inform the agency of your change in circumstances.
Barry 23/11/2015 at 12:03 am
I no longer work and will be out of work for at least a few months. I'm living with my sister during this time and living off savings. Since I stopped being paid I have stopped paying child maintenance. My ex earns a good salary but would rather I paid her CM as well. Do I have to pay it if I'm not earning a salary?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/11/2015 at 2:56 pm
The fact your ex is now married makes no difference. You are still expected to continue to support your child to the level you did previously.
Themonk 19/11/2015 at 10:15 am
My ex girlfriend has got my daughter and has got married and has another child.i pay 21weekly plus £60 a month in arrears. But are the chances of reduced payments or no payments
Kins 01/11/2015 at 1:42 pm
I am moving in with my boyfriend, 2 question
1 can the mother of there child claim money from me for upkeep of thire child? He does pay for the child.
2 if the ex get pregnant does is affect the money he gives her? As I know if we have a child it would. Not that we are ready to bring a child in to the world get.
Thanks
vuyie 17/10/2015 at 12:29 pm
Hi my husband is paying a maintenance ever since, this year the child is turning 20, as I read before he supposed to support until the child is 20yrs,so what he suppose to do
?
vuyie 17/10/2015 at 11:47 am
Hi, my husband is paying amaintainance ever since,this year the child is 20years old, is suppose to continue paying the maintenance?
Help 15/10/2015 at 10:42 am
Hello, my boyfriend of 2 years has a daughter age 7 and her mother wants me to start paying her towards the maintenance of their child on top of what he already pays. Me and my partner recently bought a house and started living together. She had advised this is now her right, how can I validate this?
cursky 13/10/2015 at 8:23 pm
Hi,i'm a filipina married to a british guy, (we got married there in the uk), our kids are both british, we're separated now but not legally. im in the philippines now with our two boys. i have been working my arse off for my kids with no single penny coming from my husband. how can i get him pay for the child support if we're already here? he's in and out of the country to visit his girlfriend. and no, we don't see each other. neither he calls me for the kids. i hope someone can give me some info on how to. will appreciate it. thank you!
Lesley 12/10/2015 at 7:11 pm
Hiya iv been receiving maintenance of my ex partner I have recently married does this effect my child's maintenance at all
SeparatedDads Editor 06/10/2015 at 10:48 am
Generally, child support payments fall in line with Child Benefit payments, which is affected if a child goes into hospital or ‘residential care’ for more than 12 weeks. You don't say whether your husband is paying for his son's care via a family-based arrangement, or via the CSA/CMS. If the arrangement is family-based, then if the child is no longer living with the mother, then I'm sure his child will still need support, but in a different way, which should be agreed between your husband and ex. If the money is paid through the CSA/CMS, then your husband would have to contact either directly and report the change in circumstances, in order to find out whether/how benefit payments may be affected.
Stressedout 05/10/2015 at 11:20 am
Hi my husband has a 14 year old son from a previous relationship that has quite severe autism. His mother wants to put him into residential care full time. Will my husband still have to pay maintenance?
wassa 29/09/2015 at 8:02 pm
paying 240 a month maintenance for 3 children its done between ourselves now my daughter doesn't need supporting so just the 2 children now both at school how much will I have to pay now as ex wife says it stays the same
bell 29/09/2015 at 2:00 pm
Hi my daughter started university this month and her father hasn't paid this month's maitanance she is 18 and just left college, and still at home. Can he do this.
Deano 29/09/2015 at 9:19 am
Hi my csa has gone from £106 per week to £148 for my 2 children i pay for there clothes an school trips Can i dispute this i live in the shetlands and her liverpool i cum home every 9 to 10 weeks for 5 days and keep the kids with me for them 5 days it costs me a lot in travel expenses to get home but they dont take this into consideration they say
Shantaram 28/09/2015 at 7:24 pm
Hi
I have separated from my wife and left our family home. The mortgage is paid off in full. My wife and I have 3 children. The oldest child age 23, completed his University education this year and has a job which he will be starting in approximately one month. My middle child age 20 is in higher education doing a foundation degree at present and plans to start an hons. degree (for the next 3 years) next September. My youngest child age 17 (18 in October) in her final year at school doing A levels and is planning to go to University next September (2016) to also do a 3 year degree course.
I am unsure how to work out what my child maintenance responsibilities will be from September 2016 when my two younger children will be at University and to whom I pay the maintenance especially if they both are away from their home during term time.
Any advice would be gratefully appreciated
Thanks
sam 26/09/2015 at 11:15 pm
Hi
I have to children from my ex wife they are 10and 9 years old, we split up 7 years ago and they never sleep in my house she allowed me to see them just 3 hours in weekend ,me and her agreed to give her £100 pound a month because of my low income ,now after 7 years she is threating me that she will take me to the court if I don't increase that money to £300 a month. the questions is can she do that, by the way I have one child from my new wife living with me and I earn max £1400 a month
SeparatedDads Editor 22/09/2015 at 2:56 pm
The amount you pay should be reduced according to how many nights you have your children. If you have a family-based arrangement, then you can see how much you should be paying by the CMS calculator here. I hope this helps.
Timbo 21/09/2015 at 11:21 pm
I feel that the whole child maintenance system is outdated and vastly biased against the father. I don't begrudge paying maintenance but what I feel is wrong is that I pay £650 per Month to my ex who earns pretty much the same as me and I have the children at least 3 nights per week. That's saying that it costs £650 for her to have the children and extra 4/5 nights per Month? Really?!! On top of paying that I'm expected to pay for half their clothing and other things. Is this right? The way it looks to me is that I'm basically paying for everything for them. We earn the same money but I'm paying for everything. Am I drastically missing something here as I hope I am!
dadwithaquestion 19/09/2015 at 3:22 pm
Do I need to continue paying child support if my ex remarries and her new spouse officially adopts my child?
Jj01 17/09/2015 at 3:15 pm
Any advice please: I had a mutual agreement with my ex regarding payments for my son. I have paid her slightly above what the CSA would have calculated and have done so for the past four years. My son is now 17 and has left education. He has not started any other education this Sept. My question is, can I now stop payments to his mother? I would much rather now help him out directly. And if payments can stop as he has left full time education......would they have to start again if he re-enters education in a few months etc? Any advice you can give would be great. Many thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 16/09/2015 at 2:39 pm
Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. As specified in the article, every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. In 2013 the law changed, making it compulsory for all UK children to continue in some kind of further education until the age of 18 (that is the end of the school year in which they turn 18). This is not necessarily a full time college course - it can be an apprenticeship or full time employment (over 20 hours a week) that includes some education or training. There are certain higher education courses, such as apprenticeships, that do not count as full-time education. Child maintenance usually falls in line with child benefit payments i.e when child benefit payments stop, so does child support. You can see what is considered to be 'approved training' via whichI hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/09/2015 at 12:44 pm
I'm afraid we cannot calculate it for you either as it is dependent upon various other circumstances. In additional to the information supplied in the article, have included a leaflet 'how child maintenance is worked out' here which may help you understand the payment process further.
CRAIG 15/09/2015 at 6:51 pm
Hi my daughters 19 doing a level 2 hairdressing course at college and is working in a bar earning her own wages aswell, I was informed last year on her 18th that I still had to pay maintenance for another year so I did but reduced it from £50 to £25 as I could no longer pay £50 as my wife was expecting my son, now my ex's mother is informing me I'm still to pay up till my daughter finishes her course next June and insists I still pay £25 a week up till then IS THIS CORRECT! I have used the maintenence calculator and I'm only supposed to be paying £33 a week for all 3 of my children, myself and my ex agreed the payment so we haven't used CSA, im enquiring why I should still pay maintenance for my 19 yr old who's WORKING and earning a wage aswell as on a hairdressing course which she only attends 1-2 days not full days as 1 of those days she works in a salon, she doesn't stay with us, we hardly see her to be honest, I don't think it's totally fair that I'm being made to pay still seeing as she's earning her own money now
steve81 15/09/2015 at 2:00 pm
Hi, i am separated and have 4 kids to 2 mums, I'm about to start a new job for around 450 per week, we have the kids 2 nights per week and my partners 2 kids live with us permanently, how much would i have to pay weekly its too complicated to work out on a calculator? Thanks Steve
SeparatedDads Editor 15/09/2015 at 12:02 pm
If your daughter continues in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue. However, if she is officially studying for less than 12 hours per week, and from home, then your payments can stop. Additionally, child support usually falls in line with child benefit payments, so if her child benefit stops, usually so does child support. Please see link: At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. I hope this helps.
josie 14/09/2015 at 11:38 am
hi my daughter has finished 6th form and is looking for a job but is resisting an exam at the end of the year to get a better grade. She is having one to one at home is this classed as still in education and will maintenance still be paid?
ninoc 12/09/2015 at 8:38 am
My question is why should
I have to pay child maintenance when the mother of my children hasn't register me as theyre father and has told me that she would never let me take the girls away from her..
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 11/09/2015 at 10:34 am
If you have parental responsibility then both parents with PR are entitled to share in the decisions that are made about their child and should be treated equally by the nursery school. If you have PR, then you should not be restricted without a specific court order, meaning in essence the school does not have the power to act on the request of one parent with PR and restrict another. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/09/2015 at 2:31 pm
It depends on when she has the baby. If she stops receiving child benefit, i.e if she is eligible to claim universal credit, then your maintenance payments can stop.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/09/2015 at 1:53 pm
As part of the Department for Work and Pensions (Child Maintenance Group), you would have to contact the DWP directly via which
dno 10/09/2015 at 9:38 am
Hi, I have a daughter who is 3 1/2 years, me and her mum are seperated. My daughter has my name but we never married. I have a court order for access and I'm in the middle of court for shared resistancy. I've just found out she a signed into a contract with a nursery of which I'm not allowed to be involved in as the contract is with my ex, I'm not even as an emergency contact. Is this allowed should she be signing into contracts and as her farther should I be on the contac lists
batto 09/09/2015 at 5:11 pm
hi i have just found out my fifteen yr old daughter is pregnant does this affect my csa payments
weegie 09/09/2015 at 4:00 pm
Hi, can anyone point me the actual legislation or regulations that the Child Maintenace Agency are governed by? They have refused to provide me with this and I would like to read this in detail.

My query is about the 25% rule. Having just been assessed for the first time, my payments are based on my earnings in 2014/15. These were artifically high by 23% due to a one off payment that has never happened in the previous 16 years with my employer and has never happened to any of my 50 colleagues in our memory - it was a true one off and have no problem proving this. However they are refusing to look at this as it doesnt meet the 25% variation rule and that means I have to pay more than I can afford for the rest of the term.

I will be appealing this and would like to get my facts right first.

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 09/09/2015 at 12:52 pm
Yes, these changes and added expenditures can be considered under the term 'special expenses variation', , which should answer your question.
SA2015 08/09/2015 at 10:32 am
My partner agreed with his ex-w to pay maintenance for their child based on the CMS calculator. She has now moved their child 150 miles away - can this affect the agreed amount to be paid? E.g. taking into account she now lives in a much cheaper place and we have to spend a small fortune on petrol. Is this just something which needs to be agreed between them?
Thank you.
dave 31/08/2015 at 6:09 pm
I have a 10year old son with my ex partner and have always paid a high amount of maintenance for him, basically all his life and I have no access to see him. I am now in a relationship with my new partner and she has a 5year old son from a previous relationship. My question is do I still have to pay the same amount to my ex partner although I care for my current partners son?
Shell 31/08/2015 at 12:17 pm
My son is 19 in October 15 and I have paid child support for him and my eldest son for 18 years now. my youngest has ended his education at college but my ex and her husband are taking him on in their own business and financing him to do an Nvq. My son will be paid £115 a week, I need to know if I need to continue with payments to my ex. I have every intention to still help my son out but directly to him. Once I stopped paying for my eldest son she kicked him out and he now lives with me and my wife.
Sam 28/08/2015 at 10:58 am
Hullo,

My wife has just recently asked for a separation. We've been married for 5 years. The complication is that we are due to move into a new property next week and I had already paid the deposit. She is now insisting that she wants me to find another property to rent for her and the kids as she currently does not work. She has also asked me to find myself a new property to rent and pay another deposit. If this does not happen She has threatened to take the kids 3 hours away to Northampton. I have two boys 4 and 2 years old. The 4 year old has severe autism and has already got statement in process. The 2 year old is on the waiting list for an operation at a hospital locally. So in opinion it would be unreasonable to relocate them.
Where do I stand here is this lawful? Am I required to pay for her entire living subsistance?
Worried 28/08/2015 at 12:54 am
Hi.
I have just had a baby with a girl who I split from 2 weeks before she found out she was pregnant. I have been a supportive person through the pregnancy and into the birth. I earn a lot of money on paper (over £42,000 per year). However as I am a director of a business I have a lot of personal debt which I am paying from this salary which leaves me on a very low net income. I struggle on a day to day basis to pay my bills. I have a daughter from a previous marriage that lives with me permanently. How would the money I pay for my new baby be worked out. Although I agree I need to support the new baby, I'm worried any money I am forced to pay may bankrupt me. Therefore leaving me and my daughter homeless and penniless.
Claire 27/08/2015 at 10:32 pm
@rob sorry I should have been more clear he has been paying more since he started working again, he was only redundant for a few months.
SeparatedDads Editor 27/08/2015 at 2:19 pm
It depends on whether you come to a family-based arrangement where you agree that neither of you need to pay, or whether the CMS/CSA evaluate your circumstances and there is a discrepancy between yours and your wife's earnings i.e if your wife is earning less then you may have to pay an amount towards your daughter's upkeep or vice-versa.
Kbj 26/08/2015 at 6:00 pm
Hi my wife & I are separated my son lives with me my daughter with her mum do I have to pay maintenance .
Trevor Willis 26/08/2015 at 10:56 am
My son has just left school at the age of 17 years and 8 months to go into employment, question, can i now stop payments to his mother ?
Rob Editor 26/08/2015 at 10:28 am
@Claire - He should not have to pay if he has been made redundant and has no incoming wage.
Claire 25/08/2015 at 9:04 am
Why do the CSA not take into consideration any children we are supporting at university but my partner would have to pay child maintenance if his other children stay in full time education?

My partners ex wife stopped all access to their children when he was made redundant, he has since then had to pay more as he doesn't see them, the court agreement is for weekends every three weeks and half of all holidays, she therefore financially gains from this!!

Why do tax credits not take into account the money a parent pays out but they also don't take into consideration the money a parent receives, eg, if we have an income over the threshold but what we pay out takes us below the threshold and if the parent receiving the money is earning below the threshold before their child maintenance they can claim tax credits and the additional thousands they get is not considered!!

Lastly is it better for the childcare vouchers to come from my partners wage as they currently go through mine?

Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 20/08/2015 at 2:25 pm
Officially you do not have to pay maintenance, meaning the CMS won't come after you. However, if you still wish to contribute financially you could do this via a family-based agreement with his mother, if you choose.
SeparatedDads Editor 20/08/2015 at 9:46 am
You could discuss with the father as a family-based arrangement if you need money to help with the day-to-day welfare of your child. Or you could call the Child Maintenance Options via the link here to ask advice.
Sim 19/08/2015 at 9:17 pm
After a DNA test, I have found out my 4 year old is not biologically mine. Although I would like to remain as his father, do I have to pay maintenance? I am on the birth certificate as his father.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/08/2015 at 10:09 am
Tertiary education refers to any type of education pursued beyond the high school level at third stage. However, tertiary education can include diplomas, undergraduate and graduate certificates and beyond, so you would have to check with the courts at what level of education it specified the order to finish. However, the court can retain the power to extend child maintenance to the end of the child’s university degree should the resident parent or your daughter decide to take it back to court. The court will consider each case individually will place a focus on the child’s financial needs, the parents’ ability to pay and the child's educational needs. Regardless of the availability of student loans, if a child has a genuine need for financial assistance and the parent has the means to pay, the court may order an extension.
jay 19/08/2015 at 12:35 am
My son is seriously I'll from birth....he's not yet left hospital....can I still get maintenance from the father?
SeparatedDads Editor 18/08/2015 at 12:15 pm
Please see link - At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here. You need to check whether his course is a government approved course or not. If payments were to stop, they generally stop at the end of the school year i.e, the September after he has finished his education.
rolly 18/08/2015 at 9:49 am
Hi can you tell me how long i will have to carry on maintenance payments for. My daughter is going to university in september for 4 years.`She is living away from home and has renting a flat with her boyfriend. I have a court order saying that i have to pay maintenance until tertiary education is finished or a further court order. Thanks
big d 17/08/2015 at 2:50 pm
hi my son is just starting his second year in college.
he gets paid by the government for attending college.
do i still have to pay csa payment and if so when do they stop please.
he turns 18 in march2016. he also has a part time job.
marti 15/08/2015 at 11:20 pm
Hi,
I pay csa for my son.i am not on the birth certificate.
I have found out my ex is changing my sons name to her partners who has now moved in and is getting pr papers sorted for him.
How do i stand with accepting that,and also with csa payments if it happens?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/08/2015 at 2:00 pm
If it is a family-based arrangement, then it is really up to you as a family how your organise the payments between you. The CMS should only be used when a family-based arrangenment falls down and payment can't be negotiated between parents. It is beneficial to you you have proof of payment, should you even need it as evidence. However, by the sounds of things you manage your finances perfectly well between yourselves.
chimps 13/08/2015 at 6:08 pm
My 2 children live with me 3 nights a week and at their mums 4 nights a week, until recently i have paid monies direct to her account based on the gov calculator. I was finding that the kids needs were not being met, ie clothes, dinner monies etc and I was having to compensate this, she also receives the child benefit and child tax credits. so I have now changed to paying directly into the kids bank account that i have informed their mother both herself, the kids and i will have access to in so much when they need something they are to talk it over with either their mum or myself, am I ok to do this, I spoke to CMO and they said I was ok to pay either to their mother or to the kids directly but im seeing other info when i search the web? Any advice, many thanks
andy 12/08/2015 at 9:56 pm
I agreed to pay maintenance until fistfight education is completed.
My son does not have any contact with me and has completed his A levels. He will be 19 in September.
Do I have to continue to pay the maintenance payment if he goes to university ?
SeparatedDads Editor 04/08/2015 at 1:39 pm
@Dazz - if he will be receiving wages as part of his apprenticeship then you would not have to pay as he will theoretically be working and therefore able to live by independent means. Should you wish to continue to support him, you may choose to do so directly.
Dazz 01/08/2015 at 9:40 pm
I pay child maintenance for my 17 year old son who is at college.He stays with me at least once a wee. He starts his 2nd college year or apprenticeship if he can get one in September. My son turns 18 in February next year and from what I understand does that mean my payments will end in the September that year. I have told my son I will support him anyway I can once he leaves college. I am asking as it is very confusing as some say I pay till hes 19 others till hes 20.
Brits 27/07/2015 at 10:27 am
My partner separated and is paying every week for his child does he have to pay still if the mother goes away on holiday with the child
Sam Editor 27/07/2015 at 2:44 pm
@GandalfTheBlack - you could pay her the minimum amount and then if you want to spend more on them, do it directly so that they benefit and not your ex.
GandalfTheBlack 25/07/2015 at 10:25 am
I am currently in a voluntary agreement with my ex wife in regards to child maintenance payments. The amount I pay is 50% above mandated because I wished the kids to retain a degree of lifestyle that they were used to prior to the split. To stay in the same house, live (more or less) the same life. However, my ex is spending the money primarily on herself in the form of clothing, furniture and fancy holidays when I have the children. And the kids are in a reducing wardrobe of old clothes, casual and uniform, has started to expect me to pay for extra curricular activities for the kids (I mostly resist this unless I am confronted for non payment), and the kids are never teken anywhere during holidays. Also the kids are complaining that their belongings are being thrown away or given away without replacement. Also one child's skin condition is showing signs of treatment neglect. I'm wondering what I can do in regards to payment reductions and or deductions from the monthly amount to cover incurred costs. Or should I simply pay mandated minimum via official channels. Advice much needed.
Rolfie 23/07/2015 at 1:20 pm
I pay child maintenance to my ex. I live with my partner who has 3 children and we have a mortgage. My question is. Are my current mortgage payments taken into account when paying my ex? I have my child over to stay every other week for 3 nights and half of all school holidays so I need the house for him to stay ?
Drumstix 21/07/2015 at 7:10 pm
I have full time parental responsibily of my child for 3 months while my ex is recovering from an operation. Do I still have to pay child maintenance for this period? I currently pay through mutual agreement.
Harriett 18/07/2015 at 1:18 pm
If the childs mother refuses access to the child does the father still have to pay maintenance?
Kenny L 17/07/2015 at 8:41 pm
Does a non resident parent still have to pay child maintenance if they are entering full time education alongside their job which pays £35k p/a

As far as I can see none of these exemptions apply

Exemptions and deductions
You may be exempt or qualify for a reduced rate if you:

have a gross weekly income of less than £7.
is in prison
is under 16 years old
is a 16- to 19-year-old who has left school but is registered for certaintypes of government-approved training courses
is a 16- to 19-year-old who is in full-time, non-advanced education (up
to and including A-level or equivalent standard
is a 16- to 17-year-old who receives Income Support, Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance or Income-related Employment and Support Allowance
is a 16- to 17-year-old who is included in their partner’s claim for Income Support, Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance or Income related Employment and Support Allowance
A care home or independent hospital, for which you are receiving help with fees.
Month 15/07/2015 at 7:05 pm
Me and my ex, my sons mother came to an arrangement which she laid 2 options down. I work and have a contract to work every weekend to which the weekend I'm off we have my son Friday, Saturday and drop him back Sunday evening. Which was tough as I have had him every weekend since we split and more, a lot more to be honest. Always paid maintenance towards his up bringing, she signed this agreement and sent back to me. She is now saying/ telling me on my weekend of 11th of September she's taking him abroad.. After all the trouble she has caused and dramas i know this agreement isn't via the courts apparently she can take cause of that. I'm am fuming and not going to pay my way as I always have without fail, if she takes him. Can I ask anyone please am I right as this situation is going to courts. With out fail.. She has broken an agreement which she proposed and signed. Please can someone help, I feel bad for my son but I this is nonsense as this was all started by her.
SeparatedDads Editor 14/07/2015 at 2:55 pm
@G - if it is a family-based arrangement, you should be able to negotiate and it is up to you to decide between you both. However, if it was up to the CSA, it would keep the arrangement as it is, as spanned across the year, it would not be considered to warrant a variation.
G 12/07/2015 at 4:23 pm
Hi, I pay maintenance for my two young daughters. My ex and I arrange it between ourselves however we have used the CSA calculator so I know she is being paid the correct amount. The girls stay with me 1-2 nights a week and we split the holidays, my question is do I have to still pay full maintenance for the couple of weeks I have them during the holidays or can I deduct that from the monthly payment?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/07/2015 at 12:31 pm
@Creaky - I'm afraid you will. You will be eligible to support your children until school-leaving age, regardless of whether or not she has a new partner/husband or what she is earning.
Creaky 11/07/2015 at 2:14 pm
I will paying CSa from setember do I still got pay if my ex has got her new partner and working full time
SeparatedDads Editor 13/07/2015 at 10:47 am
@Delias29 - this is always a tricky question as it is a bit of a grey area and one the CSA or CMS tend to not to have any specific answers on. In principle, he would stop paying in the September of the year his son finished his education, however this would not apply if he has not attended the course. Child maintenance payments usually come in line with child benefit payments, so of the latter stops then the former can too. If his contribution is a family-based arrangements then there is no real answer as it is dependent upon both parents agreeing on what is the right thing to do. I can only suggest that he talks to his ex (if they are on amicable terms) in order to see if they can agree on a solution while bridging the gap until he begins college again. If your husband and his ex are not on amicable terms then some mediation may help. See article: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. I hope this helps.
Delias29 10/07/2015 at 7:15 am
My husband has paid maintenance for his 3 children via a private agreement with his ex wife in line with or slightly more than the CSA recommends. His youngest son is now 18 and has been at college. His attendance has been rather shakey and for the last 3 months he has not attended at all ( even after his hours were reduced to try to help him out). Should his payments stop to his ex wife. He has recently said he is going to sign up again to something for September. Presumably they would then need to re start.
I have and always have been fully supportive of the children and maintenance payments to help support them.
N/A 01/07/2015 at 8:07 am
My daughter is just about to graduate from uni and planning on doing a masters. She's almost 21 years of age. Can I stop my monthly payment to her mother now ? The court order was to pay until terchery education finished.
SeparatedDads Editor 25/06/2015 at 11:55 am
@davatherave - he can apply for parental responsibility via the courts, see Parental Responsibility Guide and Letters, whichIf he is paying her child support, he should not pay her in cash, as it is always good to have a record that his is supporting his child. I have also included a link to the CMS regarding child maintenance and benefits here which should help answer your question.
davatherave 23/06/2015 at 10:44 am
My son pays a voluntary payment every week to his ex partner equal to the C.S.A. requirement.The problem is that he is not named on the birth certificate and she refuses to amend it. Can he be allowed legal aid to rectify this as he is only doing agency work at the moment which does not pay very much however he still willingly pays for his daughter!
My understanding is that his rights are nil at the moment.
Does anyone know if the money my son pays must be declared as i know that she is in receipt of working families tax credit (0r equivalent ) and i suspect this money he pays goes undeclared as it may possibly affect her payment of working families tax credit . So the question is does his voluntary contribution affect her government supplemented salary
Liam 15/06/2015 at 4:32 am
Marriage broke down about 18 months ago. My 15 year old daughter lives with me, And my 13 year old son with his mom. Divorce proceedings have started. How does this situation affect the child maintenance issue ?
At present I give my exwife £25 a week to help with my son. I recieve nothing to help with our daughter.
Just for the record both children are ours.
TNB 04/06/2015 at 2:49 pm
I pay child maintenance. My daughter is 19 in September and is due to have her first child in July. I am no longer in contact with her but I hear that she is completing college at the end of this month, the baby is due shortly after but her apparent intentions are to go to University. As this is the case, would I still pay child maintenance for her if she is claiming child benefit for her own child or can she go to court to try and get more maintenance payments from me as she is going to Uni? Thanks
ROSE 03/06/2015 at 9:07 am
Could you kindly tell me, I have a daughter who is 16years old, and living with me and she is still at school, and my ex partner has left and is with someone else. Does he still have to pay me or my daughter child maintenance ?? and do I need to know where he is living and where he is working as well ?? Would appreciate if you could kindly email me as soon as you can.
Thanks.
rebekah5 01/06/2015 at 4:27 pm
my ex is pushing my daughter to get a part time job around her full time college education, he thinks he can stop paying maintenance if she gets a job, she will be in her third year in September, the last year. Is this legal for him to stop paying if she gets a part time job????
SeparatedDads Editor 27/05/2015 at 2:19 pm
@Fairandreasonable - I am sorry to hear this. You can apply for travel to be taken into account. I have included a CMS link: How we work out Child Maintenance herewhich tells you grounds for varying a child maintenance payment through special expenses variation. Also, if you think your payments are unfair, you can appeal and/or complain. I hope this helps.
Fairandreasonable 24/05/2015 at 11:40 pm
I am seeing my MP about this draconian piece of legislation. I encourage everyone on this thread to do the same. Didn't see them debate this controversial legislation during the election!

I am a fantastic dad and had shared care literally 50/50 for several years until relatively recently, when my ex took the unilateral decision to move 500 miles away. After a lengthy and costly court battle I only now get to see him at holidays. Which upsets both me and my child.

I pay £255 in child maintenance per month and pay £337 per
Month (aggregate monthly amount) in travel expenses to maintain contact. I pay £60 a month on my student loan and £162 in pension contributions.

The variation was the equivalent to 10% of contact costs. I.e. £4k actual costs per annum which gives a £400 deduction on Child Maintenance.

I have to drive and cannot fly for contact due to the abhorrent behaviour from my ex which was acknowledged by the court, as it resulted in us missing flights and having to incur extra expenses and quickly became more costly than taking the car.

This leaves me with £864 left to pay the mortgage, insurances, bills (still paying all the legal bills too) etc etc. so that I can have a home for my son when he comes to stay.

Also noting that my personal information including specific salary information is disclosed to my ex too, surely this is a breach of Data Protection legislation? Should she be signed up to a confidentiality agreement to ensure non-disclosure to my work colleagues for example?

I am not saying that I do not want to pay any maintenance, all I am saying is that it has to be affordable, fair and reasonable considering the circumstances. Currently it is unaffordable, unfair and completely unreasonable and not fit for the purpose intended.

I am now cannot afford to see my child due to not having a pound for pound deduction in travel expenses.

In my case, a pound for pound deduction for travel expenses so that me and my child can maintain contact would be fair and reasonable and only telling my ex the specific amount she is getting instead of disclosing my salary information to her would suffice and be reasonable.

Anyone else going to see their MP to have them draft an amendment bill to this draconian and not fit for purpose legislation?
stupot51 19/05/2015 at 9:56 pm
Hi I have been paying child support of £180 per month for my 17 year old as a volentary attatchment of earnings as he went to college from school. He has now packed college in and is working full time now. Do I still need to continue with the payments. I have no contact with him or his mum.
many thanks stu
Andyjd13 19/05/2015 at 9:28 pm
Hi, I have 2 children who I pay £360 a month for I always make my payments to my ex and have my boys at least 2 times a week or for a full weekend. I'm a little confused to my rights as to planning as it is half term next week and my ex has told me she has made plans with my children for the while week..... What do I do and is this ok?
Anju 19/05/2015 at 12:26 pm
My husband has a son from his ex wife, who we had been paying Child maintenance to until 2013. We had no idea where they were until recently when the ex wife got in touch saying that the son wants to contact his dad. They had apparently moved to Sweden in 2007. I heard from somewhere that we don't need to pay child maintenance if the caring parent and the child move abroad. Is it true? If yes, what happens to the money we have paid during that time? Is there a way to claim it back?
kev 19/05/2015 at 8:36 am
my advice is try not to go with the csa as they are unreasonable and dont take anything into your account whats worth while.
im seperated with 2 daughters, I work 5 days a week and earn 1300 a month, pick up my daughters 3 days a week but they dont sleep over as I work till 10pm.
csa wanted 370 s month but bought it down too 340 because I drive 60 miles each time I pick up kids.
I tried to explain how do I survive on 950ish a month when rent is 700 in my area.
they were uninterested in me, only wanted the money.
had to beg my ex, literally beg her to accept 250 a month which she did thank god
nik27 18/05/2015 at 10:29 pm
My husband has 2 children 18 and soon to be 20 (Nov) he pays directly to ex wife via Direct Debit. They have both left school and are now supposedly at college, the eldest one did a college course and dropped out and now started another one, sadly we are not in contact and we do not know what they are doing as ex will not tell us. Is there a way of finding out if they are at college or do we just stop paying for 1 in Nov when he turns 20? We have tried calling the college but they will not tell us either due to data protection for all we know they could both be working!
SeparatedDads Editor 22/05/2015 at 11:23 am
@rlg1 - The maximum amount that can be deducted from a person's wages is 40% when taking into account arrears also. If your brother feels he is being treated unfairly and if what you say is correct, then he is, he can complain or appeal via whichI hope this helps.
rlg1 18/05/2015 at 4:46 pm
Hello, on behalf of my brother. He had just been told by the CSA he has to pay 60% Off his weekly earnings before tax for his 5 year old daughter. He has her over night 1 night per week, and 1 afternoon a week. He has no problem paying towards her however after 60% and tax he will be left earning £90 per week? Is this right? Also if a arrangement is made between him and his ex partner to pay between them can the CSA be cancelled once they have been involved. Many thanks, R
SeparatedDads Editor 21/05/2015 at 2:11 pm
@Mnike - if the CSA is deducting from your wages, then you should speak to them directly. Generally, the cut-off point for paying for a child in full-time further education is aged 20, and it would stop at the end of the school year which is September. However, you will need to double check, due to the fact that she is 21.
Mnike 18/05/2015 at 9:24 am
Hi
I just need to know how to go about when i want to stop the deduction from my salary because the child i was maintaining his now 21 years old & his no longer at school, may you kindly help me with the process to follow
DB Editor 19/05/2015 at 2:08 pm
@mandamoo - His wife's earnings are her own, it's your husband who has the parental responsibility not his wife.
mandamoo 15/05/2015 at 10:22 pm
my daughter is 5 almost 6 and her father has never paid for her up keep even after agreeing to pay when i contacted the csa previously . He failed to pay and then gave up work to look after his children as his wife is self employeed and runs her own beauty salon . As he is married and financially dependent on his wife is it possible to claim from her earnings .
Ellie 15/05/2015 at 3:07 pm
My husband daughter is 19years old working part time and in college part time + possibly living with her boyfriend. Do we still pay child maintenance.
It's under 3rd march 2003.
Irena
SeparatedDads Editor 14/05/2015 at 11:53 am
@matt - theoretically, you do not have to pay for her once she has finished full-time education not higher than A'levels, unless there is a court order in place, or you wish to continue to support her directly. However, if she is planning attending university, your daughter can apply to the courts for maintenance from you, as the non-resident parent. The courts do have the power to extend child maintenance to cover the duration of higher education if the non resident parent has the ability to cover the costs.The courts will consider the genuine needs of the child for support and even if student loans are available the court may still rule that the non resident parent must pay. I hope this helps.
matt 12/05/2015 at 1:10 pm
My daughter is !8 years old and going on to university .My payments have never been reduced ,where do I stand and how do I calculate how much I should pay towards my daughter now . I have trouble seeing her and for the last five years. I am remarried now .
SeparatedDads Editor 13/05/2015 at 12:41 pm
@shaza - yes, at end of the school year. Payment endings usually fall in line with the end of child benefit payments (generally the first week of September). However, I would check with the CSA if the arrangements are made this way.
shaza 11/05/2015 at 5:28 pm
my son is 17, (18 in July), he is just coming to the end of his education but will then be unemployed, do maintenance payments stop when he finishes his education
Aidy Editor 11/05/2015 at 12:05 pm
@Korkie123 - not if he is earning and independent wage and his child benefit has been stopped.
Korkie123 08/05/2015 at 9:26 pm
My son has just stared work, but remains in college. He is expected to earn around £100+ Peer week. Am i still required to pay CSA?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/05/2015 at 1:00 pm
@lfcfan - if you leave your job and have to claim benefits and are not earning and income, and if you are curently paying maintainance through the CSA or CMS, then your case will be reviewed and your maintenance payments will reduce, if not cease until you find another position. You should contact the CSA or CMS regarding such a change in circumstances. I hope this helps.
lfcfan 07/05/2015 at 8:32 pm
if I leave my job, my choice or not, will my wife be made to pay for my 2 children that i'm paying for at the moment
Bexs 05/05/2015 at 12:48 am
My ex is currently studying a phd which he gets paid for from the university and next year he is going to be doing a doctorate. Does this make him except from paying child support to me? As haven't had a penny off him his attitude is he will pay when the law says he has too. He gets paid a monthly wage so I don't know why it wouldn't be considered as income as im currently a single student mum and my loans and grants get considered as income when calculating my tax credits and housing benefit.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/05/2015 at 10:20 am
@Ralph - I can't tell you how they calculate it - but I can say that you can apply for travel to be taken into account. I have included a CMS link: How we work out Child Maintenance here which tells you grounds for varying a child maintenance payment through special expenses variation. I hope this helps.
Ralph 01/05/2015 at 5:40 am
Hello,I have three children.
My child maintenance travel costs are 78.60 my weekly earnings gross are 339.00 and I have been asked to pay just under £49 per week. Please can you explain how they calculate the travel allowance as it seems I have only been allowed a reduction of £15 from the original amount.
Thank you
Ralph
Cm 27/04/2015 at 10:46 pm
I pay through Csa for my Son and have been led to believe that due to his mental health state he has had to take 12 months out from College. How does this affect my payments as surely the 'Parent' with care is not going to inform anyone of this. I do not want to then be paying for a additional year when I do not need to. Harsh it may sound but both my Son and his Father have put me through sheer hell. I would just like a bit of clarity on this if anyone can help.

Regards
SeparatedDads Editor 24/04/2015 at 12:18 pm
@Jones - you would have to check it out yourself whichI hope this helps.
Jones 23/04/2015 at 6:57 am
I am currently paying £218 per month via CDs for my daughter
My current partner is pregnant what percentage of my ex partners money will go down when my new child is born in december
SeparatedDads Editor 22/04/2015 at 11:54 am
@twin - is this been organised via the CSA/CMS or courts? If it is the courts, and she won't consent, then you may have to take it back in order to rearrange. If it is CMS or CSA, then you will have to speak with one of its advisors directly.
twin 21/04/2015 at 4:51 pm
just to be clear to anyone reading that may have picked up my comment wrong im not an absent or 1 day a week dad its not that I want to keep the money for myself, if I were to see the money she already got actually going towards are daughter id happily put the money up by £50 a month
twin 20/04/2015 at 5:19 pm
I have an arrangement of 200 a month that goes in on the first of every month can I change this to weekly if I want or does this then terminate the "agreement" I feel the money is not being used for are daughter but on her life style, my only concern is that the agreement is then void and she can chase me for more money
blackeye 19/04/2015 at 9:18 pm
Is this information correct @ seperateddads? I've been informed if you're a full time student and even earn (through a p/t job) less than £100 a week. You are still liable to pay the £5.00 flat rate?

This is in contrast to what you have included i.e. "You are exempt from paying child support, known as the Nil Rate, if you are:
A student in full time education, on a recognised course, studying at least 12 hours a week. (However, if the student earns £100 or more a week then they are eligible to pay child support.)"
Ed Editor 21/04/2015 at 10:40 am
@Si - if you have arrears you will still pay those for both children, but your main payments to your child who has finished education will stop at the end of the school year (generally September I think, but you should check).
Si 18/04/2015 at 7:20 pm
I have 2 children , 18 and 16 one finished education 16 year old Still in education. I pay arrears on top of child support . What I want to know is should my payment come down now my 18 year old has finished education or will it continue at the same rate to cover arrears .
SeparatedDads Editor 14/04/2015 at 2:33 pm
@Inquisitive15 -You may have to still pay if it is a government approved apprenticeship. Approved training should be unpaid and can include some apprenticeships and traineeships. However, Courses that are not approved are those that paid for by an employer. Courses that are part of a job contract are not approved can be found here. I hope this helps.
Inquisitive15 11/04/2015 at 11:36 pm
My partners son has decided to do an apprenticeship which last for 3yrs he's 16 mid Aug 2015. my partner still pays maintanance to the ex at the moment. Will he still have to pay maintaince to her while the son is an apprentice?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/04/2015 at 12:03 pm
@threasa - CSA can only look at it retrospectively from the time they received your first application. If you have evidence that your ex was working and avoiding CSA, you may be able to claim through the courts.
threasa 11/04/2015 at 6:17 am
im trying to find out if I can backdate a claim for child maintenence from 25 years ago. it was a court order in those days my childs father said he no longer had a job. this I don't believe. he then disappeared. i just recently found out he lives in wales and still works . and owns his own house.
can I claim back after all these years?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/04/2015 at 11:52 am
@George F - in this instance you would have to contact the CSA and ask one of its advisors directly.
George F 10/04/2015 at 11:39 pm
My son is 18 this month and continuing his A level education until June 2016 and living at his mothers house.I am happy to support him in this and want to do this directly to him, as I do not want to continue paying to his mother. He has agreed that he will pay his mother the correct amount of CSA payment and I trust him in this. She has said that she is not happy with this decision. Where do I stand legally with this arrangement?
SeparatedDads Editor 14/04/2015 at 10:50 am
@Anon - if it's a family-based arrangement then it is arranged between the parents, so it is up to them to debate. If it is through the CSA/CMS then you would really have to speak directly to one of its advisors to check the in-house protocol.
Anon 10/04/2015 at 9:32 am
My partner pays maintenence every week for his 5 year old son, however during the Easter holidays we had him for a full week. His mother is still demanding he pay her maintenence for that week also. Is she right to do so as it seems if so, we end up paying twice? I'd be grateful for some advice. Thanks
Phil Editor 14/04/2015 at 10:41 am
@lisa79 - it might mean there has been a blip in his benefits, could be sanctions, or that he's ill - there really could be a number of reasons, have you asked the CSA?
lisa79 10/04/2015 at 9:17 am
I have been receiving £10 a fortnight out of my children's father's benefit but this week it stopped. On contacting the csa they tell me he is still on benefits but they are not allowed to deduct any money from his benefits at the moment. Can anyone tell me why this could be please. Tia
Karl Editor 14/04/2015 at 10:15 am
@gannie - she may be able to try, but if the court in the UK have made a judgement then she might not get very far. It also depends whether it's Northern or Southern Ireland too as there are different in the north they are constituted and governed by Northern Ireland law.
gannie 10/04/2015 at 2:16 am
Hiya, could someone tell me, if I have been to court in the UK, and an arrangement has been agreed, is it legal for my ex to take me to court in Ireland for more money, which she was refused through the uk court. I pay £370 per month
SeparatedDads Editor 10/04/2015 at 10:37 am
@Eggspeed - the CMS/CSA will only take your earnings into account. In general terms if you have a weekly net income between £5 - £100 or you receive state pension, incapacity benefit, or Job seekers allowance, then you will/should pay a flat rate of £5 per week. I hope this helps.
Eggspeed 08/04/2015 at 4:54 am
Hi.ive been paying £370 a month with my x wife for my 3 children,which was an amicable amount between us agreed.i have just been made redundant.i am now on job seekers allowance looking into it I now pay £5 a week until I start working.i have a child with my new wife who is 10 months old.i need to know will they take my wife's wage into account for payments to my 3 children?she only works part time on minimum wage 24 hours a week.when I start work again,will it be taken into account that I have a new baby?so my payments to my x would be lower?
Rob Editor 09/04/2015 at 1:57 pm
@Danny010486 - it is really something you will have to sort out between youreslves. It is the bane of many men's lives, but CSA/CMS would continue taking payments - it really is up to the mother to see reason, which isn't always the case. You could take it to court on a Specific Issue order, but it doesn't seem worth the initial expense
Danny010486 07/04/2015 at 5:08 pm
I pay maintenence fortnightly for my 7 year old daughter, however during half term i had her for the full week, and the mother expects me to pay her maintenence for that week also. is she within her rights to have this? as obviously it is me who is feeding her etc
thanks in advance
SeparatedDads Editor 08/04/2015 at 10:11 am
@iain - this is a trap that many men fall into where they are passively and subtly blackmailed into parting with money in exchange for seeing their children. It is understandable that you feel this way, but it is a precarious situation and one that you need some level of control over. Firstly, yes you can have money deducted for travel. You can ask the CMS or the CSA to take into account certain costs or expenses incurred and is called applying for a variation. These are called ‘special expenses’ and can reduce the paying parent’s gross income figure used to work out your maintenance payment. You can find this explanation on p12 of the CMS leaflet; 'how we work out child maintenance', whichYou also may find our Separated Dads Facebook page useful, as there are many dads going through the same or similar situations. There was a posting recently on a similar issue and it might be worth you looking at some of the replies as our followers have some very informative and instructive advice to give. I hope this helps.
iain 04/04/2015 at 4:34 pm
hi , i have never married but have a 2yr old daughter with my expartner, i pay a little bit more maintenance than i should so we can take it in turns in travelling to and from the place where she lives.unfortunately she is not keeping to her agreement and i am paying for most of the travelling. i just want to know can i have travelling deducted from the maintenance, to pick my daughter up and take her back it is costing me an extra 300 pounds a month on top of my 165.00, I am not earning alot but do have a full time job, after i have paid my rent etc, i also let her away with the debts she ran up when we were together which i didnt know anything about. this has caused me great stress but i am scared if i say anything she will stop me from seeing my daughter.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/04/2015 at 12:52 pm
@Baj - I have included the article; At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? here which should help you.
Baj 31/03/2015 at 6:08 pm
Just looking for some advice please, i split with my then partner in 2002, she moved out with our son and since then i have paid a monthly standing order which is still going to this date, i have never once missed a payment, my son is now 15 and I was just finding out to what age i keep paying maintenance?

Rgds
SeparatedDads Editor 31/03/2015 at 11:47 am
@Robbie - the fact your ex has money has nothing to do with the level of your own support for your daughter. However, it can be frustrating especially when it seems as though she is in a constant cycle of education. As she is still under 18, you will have to support her as she will be in full-time education not higher than A-level or equivalent. Your only recourse really is to talk to your ex and ask if you could perhaps support your daughter directly, or speak to her about your lack of funds and how you are finding it difficult and hope she may concede to reducing your financial input.
Robbie 28/03/2015 at 7:13 pm
I divorced over 6 years ago. We raised a court order stating that my daughter who will be 18 in October should benefit from maintenance until her 18th birthday or ceases full time tertiary education or first degree level. She left school after GCSE's and went on a 2 year further education course in healthcare. She quit after a few months and then started an apprenticeship. She has now quit that and is going back to 6th form college in September to do A levels. In the last 6 years my ex has has several nearly new cars, takes regular holidays abroad and her partner has been living with her for 3 or 4 years. She has also had the benefit of a sizeable inheritance in the last few months. By comparison I have been unable to take a holiday for the past 4 years. I have no problem in helping my daughter through her education, but the stop start situation could go on indefinitely and it does appear to me that my ex is not in desperate need of the additional income. Is there anything I can do?
Seb Editor 27/03/2015 at 12:39 pm
@Janie - it might be worthwhile getting in touch with the school in order to clarify this, as if he has left to get a job, then you should not have to be paying for him.
Janie 26/03/2015 at 5:14 pm
I believe my stepson has not attended 6th form ( yr13 )since xmas we don't see him much so everything is sketchy and he doesn't tell us the truth what I'm asking is should we still be paying csa to his mother obviously we still want to give him money but we're not sure if he's working etc when and how or would the csa ever contact his mother to ask as we believe that she will take it as long as possible
Thank you
lucky 26/03/2015 at 8:08 am
I am currently waiting for an appointment with my solicitor, as the child maintenance hand book states, if the day to day care person changes, then payments should be stopped, and my children's mother does not let me have them over night, so they stay with my mum 4 nights a week, surly I shouldn't be paying the children's mother.
Debs Editor 25/03/2015 at 10:26 am
@j - I know it is difficult, but if you were living with your partner you may be paying approximately that to keep your child in clothes, food, heating, and other items. If your child was living with you, you'd be doing the same, kids are expensive!
j 22/03/2015 at 2:36 am
Thank you csa because I chose to get myself a job and pay my way I not only have to down size from a nice 2 bed flat to a bedsit, now I have a recalculation from you I have to do 1 of 2 options.. Ready for this thanks now either I work to pay you lot I will be living on the streets because I cant afford rent, or I quit my job so I can get housing benefit to keep a roof over my head and you can accept £5 per week instead of the 80 your taking off my 220 wage
SeparatedDads Editor 24/03/2015 at 2:46 pm
@joe - because child support is paid in arrears then payments will usually stop a month after a child who is in full-time education finishes. But you may want to double check this with Child Maintenance Options via whichI hope this helps.
joe 21/03/2015 at 9:27 pm
My daughter leaves college in may after completing her A levels and so can you please let me know my last month of payment.

Many thanks
Walt 19/03/2015 at 8:45 pm
I am uncertain despite looking at the comments on this site and despite reading the information on when payments can stop. situation is there is a court order in place which reads ",, until he shall attain the age of 17 years or cease full time tertiary education whichever shall be the later " His full time education course naturally ends in May 2015 and he does not intend on doing any further study in September 2015. He was 18 in October 2014. Will the last payment be May 2015 or will I have to continue making payments until September 2015. Also he works part time so does this influence the decision to my question above in any way?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2015 at 12:10 pm
@topjock1972 - if the child is still on a government approved study course, then it can be extended to age 20. Please see our page At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? whichI hope this helps.
topjock1972 16/03/2015 at 11:48 pm
you say csa payment stops when child turns 19 but the csa state it's 20!!!
so which is correct???
Chris Editor 18/03/2015 at 10:15 am
@Saf - it is based on your earnings, irrespective of what your wife earns and it is assessed on what you might contribute to support your children if you were still living as a couple. CR.
Saf 15/03/2015 at 8:14 am
Hi.
I pay for my 2 children every month. However I pay the amount Based on my wage. Not what I take home? How is this fair? The mother now works full time. Do I still have to pay full rate?
Bee Editor 13/03/2015 at 1:57 pm
@Templar - does he still receive child benefit. If he does then I think it's connected with that and once it stops so does child support. But you shouldn't have to pay if he is not in full-time education. You really should check with the CSA.
Templar 12/03/2015 at 11:36 am
I have a 17 year old son who I pay maintenance for, he has quit college and at present doing nothing but lazy about at his mums home. He does not want to go to college and can not hold down a job or just refuses to work.

He will be 18 years in April next month, do I still have to pay towards his upkeep?
bobbysox 09/03/2015 at 8:28 pm
My son has just left school at the end of February and live s with his mum in aberdeen.but he stays with me every weekend Fri /Sun.he is looking to move back home with me and my partner shortly and start a college course in August do I still have to pay support towards him or will it be the other way round when he comes to stay with us?? cheers
Drew 09/03/2015 at 7:37 pm
Hi,

I live in the UK, and am wanting further advice regarding my CSa contribution.

My Son has decided to quit college to pursue employment (Currently 19hrs per week, looking to increase ASAP to fulltime)

Can you please advise as what my legal standing is in respect to maintaining my monthly payments?

Am I still required to pay? or can I contribute to increase my sons income by paying him?

Many Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 10/03/2015 at 10:16 am
@thelocksmith - you can calculate how much you would actually owe via the Child Maintenance Options calculator here . I hope this helps.
thelocksmith 07/03/2015 at 10:59 am
Hi
I work part time and earn after tax and insurance £200.i also study more than 12 hours at college and thought I was exempt. After reading on you site I realize that I am not. Would they only take into account £100 to work out my payments or is it the full £200?
Regards Richard
SeparatedDads Editor 10/03/2015 at 10:13 am
@Deano - once your son finishes his A'levels, he finishes his education, therefore your can legally finish paying child support (unless a court agreement has been made otherwise). Whether/how you choose to fund him from then on in is entirely up to you. I hope this helps.
Deano 07/03/2015 at 10:36 am
Hi, my son is 18 next week and currently doing his A levels. I currently have an arrangement with child maintenance options, my son plans to take a gap year after this academic year. Do I still need to pay child maintenance for that gap year, the person I spoke to at child maintenance options did not know. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 06/03/2015 at 12:01 pm
@stephgibsx - unless he can't agree with his ex when to see the child, it would really have to go through court of mediation in order to make a decision. There are no specific 'rights' per se on access, as it is either agreed between the parents or left for the courts to decide. Did she ask his consent to move to England? If he has parental responsibility then she would have had to have requested written consent to move the child out of the area. If the parents can't agree, the best thing your partner can do is request a c100 contact order which will put in the motion for access through the courts so he can make moves to regain contact and to have some sort of official arrangement in place. I hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/03/2015 at 11:51 am
@Frankie - I have included a link to our partner article At What Age Do Child Maintenance Payments Stop? whichI hope this helps explain it fully.
Frankie 02/03/2015 at 11:25 pm
Hi there. I really need your advice please.
I live in Scotland - I have two sons and my wife and I are divorced for many years. One of my sons has always lived with his mum and I have been paying Child support to her for him over the years. That son is now 19 years old and I have been paying a reduced amount for a while.
I would like to finish paying this support now but the CSA tells me that if my ex-wife is still claiming benefit for him that I must keep paying until such time as she stops. This makes no sense to me at all.

Can you tell me in a nutshell what the circumstances are when I can stop paying for him. Can I stop if he is on a College course? Or can I stop if he has a part time job? And what is the absolute cut off, age wise, when I can stop paying altogether?
Many thanks
Jacks Editor 04/03/2015 at 12:48 pm
@Kweldo - Yes the CSA will take into account that he has two children by you when assessing his payments to his ex and they will re-evaluate his payments accordingly.
kweldo 02/03/2015 at 11:20 am
my partner pays CSA for his 2 daughters, 14 an 16, he is on the 93 CSA.... We now have 2 kids together under 2 who we have to send to nursery at approx £800 a month, an I will be going back on reduced hrs (why they take my wages into account when they're not my kids is disgusting) my question is do they take our nursery fees into account?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/03/2015 at 11:19 am
@jojo- he would still have to pay for the child at school. If the 19-year-old is not in full-time education and isn't on a government approved course and is earning an independent living, then he does not have to pay. I hope this helps.
jojo 26/02/2015 at 5:18 pm
my boyfriend lives with me and my 12 year old but is not the father. He as two kids to ex 15 still at school 19 in uni and works . Will he still have to pay CSA for him
Carrie Editor 19/02/2015 at 2:06 pm
@shell - is the mum still in receipt of child benefit? If she isn't then you don't need to pay. Whatever studying or apprenticeship he is doing has to be government approved in order for CSA payments to continue. You don't say what type of work he is doing so it's hard to say.
shell 18/02/2015 at 9:18 am
my stepson does 2 days at college a week and works 3 days and earns £85 a week.. Do we still need to pay csa.
Rache Editor 19/02/2015 at 12:28 pm
@stepmum0505 - if your step-son leaves full-time schooling in the summer, child support is usually paid until the first week of September of the same year. If you can't get in touch directly, and it was personally arranged, then what else can you do really?
stepmum0505 17/02/2015 at 9:25 pm
My step son turns 18 soon, he will be leaving school this summer, but as we don't see him any more, we don't know if he is going on to higher education & don't have any way to find this information out. Do we just stop paying & see what happens? The CSA are not involved.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/02/2015 at 11:01 am
@Mlkel - Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes or until they turn 20. As your son is working and has decided not to continue in full-time education, then your payments would have ended in the September after his final school term. Your son now has independent means, therefore you shouldn't have to pay for his support. I hope this helps.
Mlkel 16/02/2015 at 10:50 am
My son is 18 and a professional footballer and earns good money.however he also goes college some afternoons.do i still have to pay child support?
Lily Editor 17/02/2015 at 1:49 pm
@Pedro - I don't think it is any different in Scotland, a person can qualify for child support purposes up to the age of 20 if they are in full time, non-advanced education.
Pedro 15/02/2015 at 1:06 pm
I have been told that in Scotland the legal age where someone must continue to support a child is 19, does this overrule the CSA new legislation being 20. Thankyou
SeparatedDads Editor 17/02/2015 at 10:33 am
@Bear - While your child is entitled to leave school and get a job, if she has no job or is not receiving benefits then it makes this a bit of a grey area. I suggest that to put your mind at rest you give the Apprentice helpline a call on 0800 015 0400 or 0247 682 6482 or email via the
nationalhelpdesk@apprenticeships.gov.uk. I hope this helps,
Bear 14/02/2015 at 3:56 pm
My 16yr old is non longer in any education (just drinks and bums with her mother)do I still have to pay maintenance ,I obviously want to provide for my child if the law says i do,but if I don't i want to stop so I'm not funding there drug alcohol issues.
Danny Editor 16/02/2015 at 2:52 pm
@Pappeech - you can stop paying child support as soon as your child begins earning a wage if they have dropped out of school and chosen to work instead.
Pappeech 14/02/2015 at 11:22 am
My soon to be seventeen year old no longer attends school and got a full time job and paying rent to her mother this started in January how long will I have to be paying her mother .
Ben Editor 16/02/2015 at 11:52 am
@ginge - no you don't have to pay maintenance if he has left school to theoretically get a job and especially if his child benefit is stopped as it usually ties in with that. But still I'd double check as it's a bit of a grey area.
ginge 13/02/2015 at 2:53 pm
my son is 17 and doesn't go to school anymore , he was always in trouble at school and just refused to go . he now sits at home doing nothing, do i still have to pay maintenance as he's not in education .
Monkey1975 05/02/2015 at 7:52 pm
I live overseas and have been paying child maintenance continuously for 17 years. I'm trying to find out I should still be paying maintenance. He is 17, Has recently served a prison sentence and has a detention and training order. He has to complete a college course and he is going to get a job to work alongside it at the same time.

Should I still be paying maintenance?
Misssmith 05/02/2015 at 2:34 am
we had five children over 12 years and one is disabled.

His ex came out of the blue with his child stating that his daughter who is 13 wants to see him.

now im wondering does he have to pay anything because he is not on the birth certificate.

he has been in and out of work all of his life and has only spent 100 days working. becouse he new that he could only pay so much.

i dont know if she ever made a clame for CSA or not so i dont know

it doesnt matter that he has a child we both would welcome the child with open arms

Thank you for reading
loz 28/01/2015 at 5:45 pm
Will my partners part time wage have an effect on my csa payment she has 2 daughters we are engaged and live together?
Caz 28/01/2015 at 5:40 pm
I contacted the csa years ago about payment yo my daughter. They worked out a weekly amount which he payed direct to me as a arrangement between us.
At the time he had two step children that were taken into account, so my daughter got a small percentage. Now he only as one child to support, so how would I go about claiming the extra amount I may be ientitled to??
mondeo65 27/01/2015 at 10:17 pm
Hi. I am a 49 year old father of 2, my daughter is 15 and my son turns 18 this April. My monthly payments to my ex were arranged through solicitors and the CSA were not involved. My question is .....at the moment my son does not intend to go on to Uni after leaving school this summer - he wants to take a gap year and continue working at Tesco where currently works part time and wants to work full time. Can I reduce my payment this September and if so by how much? After the gap year my son thinks he might go to college - he will be over 19 by then -- would my payments for him have to restart?
struggling parent 27/01/2015 at 12:53 pm
Hi can anyone help me. My husband pays maintenance for his son who turns 19 this year. He attends college 3 days a week and works 3 days a week and gets paid over a £120 a week. Does he still have to pay child maintenance? We pay £150 a month for him and this was agreed by both parents not CSA.
James Mitchell 25/01/2015 at 12:55 pm
I pay csa for my 2 sons. The older will be 17 this year and has started a commis chef's course. Iddon't know for how long but read that he could get up to 140 pound a week. I do not know how many hours in college per week but do I qualify to get a reduction in my payme ts.
SeparatedDads Editor 13/01/2015 at 3:01 pm
@Ter - I'm afraid I can't answer this as we are a UK-based website and I have no knowledge of Californian family law.
Ter 11/01/2015 at 6:24 pm
I have always paid and when I moved I was honest right away about my new address. I sent my payments only to have them sent back to me. Trying to get it set up in the new province was not a easy task. So much so that it still wasn't transferred after I had moved back to first province. Then I get a letter stating im behind 14 months and they are charging me interest on this money. I sent them a request for a form to make payments. They in return send me notice to pay up or in 18 days from mailing the letter they are putting me in collections?? I have been making extra 300 to 350 payments on top of the reg payment. Can they legally put me in collections even though I have been putting money toward it every month??
Sue Editor 19/12/2014 at 12:56 pm
@Trish - I think it can be extended through the courts, much of it depends on whether your child will be in receipt of benefits. If the payment from your ex is coming through the CSA, then it is worth you getting in touch with them to see what your options are, as it is a bit of a grey area.
Trish 19/12/2014 at 4:09 am
our daughter has autism. (Aspergers) if she is unable to participate in the workforce does maintenance payments for her still end at 16. I do get a small carers allowance for her per fortnight.
Concerned Nana 18/12/2014 at 1:01 am
My son's daughter is studying her A levels and her mother has thrown her out of home. My son has organised temporary accomodation for her close to the school and is moving into the area so she can live with him - he currently lives too far out of town for her to get to school by public transport. He says he has to keep paying her mother child support for 6 weeks after his daughter left her mother's care. He has a lot of expenses setting her up in temporary rental accomodation and moving himself and is a low income earner. Surely this is not right?

His son comes to live with him at times because Mum refuses to have him at home. So far he has always gone home again, but as he gets older we fear this may go the same route as his older sister. We'd appreciate some advice as we are pensioners yet have to help our son out with finances regularly.
stepmum 07/12/2014 at 8:51 am
Hubby paying maintenence for daughter who was 16yrs in April. She was not attending school for last year due to behaviour but was allowed to take exams. she only showed up for two exams. She has been under Cahms team since June and was admitted to mental health hospital in July where she remains at the mo. We visit regular 5 hr journey and have continued to pay maintenance. We regularly received calls from daughter saying she needed coats, shoes, trips, even food because her mum didn't get them. Very frustrating. Do we still need to pay maintenence or can we help daughter directly by getting what she needs. Feel we have been supporting her mum for past 5 mths as daughter not even living there. Any advice???
PDUB 02/12/2014 at 12:27 pm
MY SON TURNS 18 IN A FEW WEEKS IVE PAID SINCE DAY 1, EVEN WHEN HES STAYED AT MY HOUSE WEEKENDS AND WHEN IVE TAKEN HIM ON HOLIDAY, HE ATTENDS A COLLEGE 3 DAYS A WEEK AND WORKS AT LEAST 3 EVENINGS A WEEK,
IM NOW BEING TOLD BY HIS MOTHER IM EXPECTED TO PAY UNTIL HE'S 20???? IS THIS RIGHT ?
BenJ Editor 21/11/2014 at 12:53 pm
@SHINY - if you are on speaking terms with him can't you ask him or anyone else in the family what college he is attending? The you could write to the college and ask to confirm his attendance hours.
SHINY 20/11/2014 at 10:45 pm
My son turned 19 years old in October, he has currently left school and tells me he goes to college for 4 hours per week. He also has a job working weekends. I have asked the CSA to stop my monthly maintenance payments. The CSA have told me they cannot stop CSA payments as my ex wife has told them, he is in college for at least 12 hours a week. I have spoken to the CSA stating that my son is only at college 4 hours a week. The CSA have told me they are powerless to contact the college and confirm his hours, and will only take my ex wifes word for this. This is clearly fraud if he is only attending college for 4 hours a week. How can find out what college he is attending to prove what hours he is doing there?
andys 12/11/2014 at 7:01 pm
my son who is 17 in 2 weeks is starting an apprenticeship next week which will be 1 day collage and 4 days work. This is paid work and gets paid for going to collage as well, does anybody know it Maintenance is still payable ? i still have a younger son who will of course get maintenance.
thanks in advance.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/10/2014 at 11:44 am
@Confused - usually if the CMS believe you share care equally, they won’t do a maintenance calculation, unless there are other considerations that needed to be taken into account. If you feel that you should not be paying and disagree with the way the CMS has done the maintenance calculation based on the shared care arrangements, then you can ask them for a review. I hope this helps.
Confused 21/10/2014 at 5:31 pm
If a father has his child half the week why does he still have to pay maitence? I don't understand?
Ben 17/10/2014 at 9:47 am
My ex partner plans to marry next year and is cohabiting already with her new partner, she works full time as does her partner! She has just had a renewal form regarding the amount of maintenence paid from the CSA.

Would any of the above effect the amount I pay currently? Would I likely pay more or less??

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 17/10/2014 at 12:48 pm
@chunky - The amount the CSA says you must pay is the full amount anything you pay extra is up to you and from your own goodwill towards your child. If you feel strongly about it, you could ask the mother to go half on extra curricular activities. But then she may be paying out on other things and might just come back to you with a long list of things she pays for that are from her own pocket. I hope this helps.
chunky 16/10/2014 at 7:24 pm
I have my child 2 nights every week for tea (2 hours) and also from friday/Sunday everyother week. I also pay for dance lessons and costumes etc. Can any of this be taken into account by Csa when calculating payments
Kells 11/10/2014 at 12:02 pm
Hi my husband has a son of 17rs that he pays maintenance for. His son has recently started an apprenticeship, he however earns £200 or more per week for this. He goes to college 1 week out of 4. We also have a child together, do you think this is acceptable and more importantly can the maintenance payments stop.
Dougie 11/10/2014 at 9:58 am
Hi, Could you clarify when i can stop paying maintenance to my ex please? Like strugglingdad, i'm being told when theyre 20 whereas otherstell me when theyre 19. They are in full time college education studying for a BTEC extended level 3 diploma. Your advice would be appreciated.
shazza 09/10/2014 at 1:29 pm
My husband pays a small amount to me for my son. He has just turned 17 and is at college learning ccarpentary, he was thinking of working 8 hrs on his day off. Does this effect what my husband has to pay me
AJ 08/10/2014 at 8:08 pm
My ex wife has had her partner move in at the beginning of the summer does his additional income reduce the amount I pay under the new CMS rules?
rosie 08/10/2014 at 2:05 pm
Hi my daughter has just started university and will be 19 next month when does the child maintenance stop as been told it should stop the september after her last school term but a payment has been taken out this month also read it will stop once she is 19
twin Editor 22/04/2015 at 1:50 pm
@separateddads

it was an agreement set up between us both at the time of the split, nether courts or csa were involved
SeparatedDads 08/10/2014 at 12:15 pm
If your ex husband is on Income Support or Job Seeker’s Allowance, and has no other income then the CSA should look at your case again.
Jobcentre Plus may make deductions at source of a flat rate payment.
gemma 07/10/2014 at 9:56 am
Hi. I wondered if anyone could help. My ex husband hasnt been working for the last 3 months and is on job seekers and getting help with his rent, and while he hasnt been working hasnt been giving me any money towards our 2 daughters aged 9 and 5 as he said he cant as 'he isnt working'!. I havent went to the CSA as when he is working he does give me money but is there anything he can claim to be able to give me something towards their keep?????
struggling dad 01/10/2014 at 2:53 pm
Hi ethan she is at college an also works part time but doesnt pay tax im just unsure about the age of payments stopping some say its 19 even tho they say 20 the cant take legal action because you are not the responsible parent when the turn 19 if its just there way of making me pay then id rather stop payments going to my ex and give my daughter money instead
Ethan Editor 01/10/2014 at 2:18 pm
@struggling dad, is she in full time education of 12 hours or more per week but no higher than a levels? University is classed as higher education and doesn't count.
struggling dad 01/10/2014 at 2:14 pm
hi ive always paid for my daughter she turns 19 this year and im confused some people say the payments will stop and some say 20 can any1 give me the correct answer on this please
rosie Editor 01/10/2014 at 10:04 am
@Dee, have you tried ringing the child benefit agency yourself and explaining that your son is now enrolled in university?
Dee 30/09/2014 at 3:12 pm
My son has just started university on a full time undergraduate degree. How do I make sure that my ex informs the Child Benefit Agency that he is in full time education and she has stopped claiming child benefit, which seems to be the mechanism which triggers the cessation of maintenance and closure of my case?

Regards

Dee
neo 29/09/2014 at 5:19 pm
We were married and separate for about two years.the father of my child agreed to pay maintenance for the child as it was an agreement from the court order.its been close to three months since he stopped the paying the child support.What advice can you give me in a situation like this?
Vickyb 28/09/2014 at 3:36 am
I understand my other half has to pay for his 2 children from his previous relationship what I think is wrong is it is net earnings we don't get the tax money or NI the government to so surely it would be fair to take it off what is left. We have a daughter of our own to support. It also muffs me his ex and her husband earn more money than us so don't need all the money we have to pay and it cost more than the supposed 1/7 reduction we get to have the kids stay show surely we should have to pay less that we be fair she had the affair and left after all!
yu234 Editor 29/09/2014 at 12:16 pm
@jay, are you going through the CSA or is a private arrangement?
Jay 26/09/2014 at 4:10 pm
Hi there, I'm look for advice? I'm paying maintenance for my 2 girls 9&2, 50 awk but this is all new to me, I'm as it only just been over month that the girls mum ended the relalsionship, I'm disabled and only get ESA and DLA which is not a lot, I have no problem paying maintenance for my girls. I just need advice for the best way to do this?
mel 25/09/2014 at 4:07 pm
Ive had letter sayin he gotta pay 50 a week from march 2014
What happens now and how and when Will i get it
sarah 22/09/2014 at 10:12 pm
My partner recently found out he is not the biological father of the child he has been paying maintenance for, for 7.5 years. No agreement was made through the csa they made there own arrangements between them and he has always paid up and beyond what he needed to, regular contact etc. Since paternity of the new dad has been identified ( mum clearly knew there were two possibilities! !) contact has been sporadic and greatly reduced. Where does he stand with regards to claiming back all that was paid out over the years?? Not really an option we would like to take any advice would be greatly appreciated.
becx 20/09/2014 at 7:53 am
Hi,my partner currently pays £43.57 for his 16 yr old son frm a previous relationship he is at 6th form full time but also wrks part time in next does my partner still have to pay this full amount? Thank you.
Norman 16/09/2014 at 10:22 pm
My husband pays for the private education of my child. I m a single mom claiming benefits. The Money he pays in lieu of fee is paid direct to the private school. Do I have to notify the local council as I am claiming benefit? Is this money regarded as income for me?
Xtine Editor 21/09/2014 at 5:39 pm
@charlot its not always about begrudging to give the children money hun, my partners ex wife openly tells him that his child support pays for her weekends away and also that she can do what she likes with the money! The purpose of the money is to help support the children and make sure they have clean clothes etc, not to use it on alcohol at the weekend, different people have different situations regarding csa, not only does my partner pay csa but we also spend alot of money when they stay with us and not to mention all the best xmas and birthday pressys etc
charlot 11/09/2014 at 9:28 pm
I do not understand why the majority of people on here moaning about paying CSA, these are your children would you really begrudge them £25 a week. If you don't want to pay for children then please don't have them which would solve a lot of issues!
laura Editor 12/09/2014 at 1:38 pm
@Loz, is she studying more than 12 hours a week? If not this is not classed as full time education and therefore your husband would not need to pay.
Loz 11/09/2014 at 8:51 pm
My other half's daughter is 19 working full time but doing a hospitality cause through her work does he still have to pay child maintenance?
Unclejjk 05/09/2014 at 4:16 pm
I have been divorced 1 year but seperated for 3 prior to that. I have the 3 kids 50% of the time
In the divorce court order I agreed to pay their mother £1000 per month for the benefit of the children until they finish education... I have been told that after one year of divorce I can drop this to csa calculated payments which because of my earnings and how long I have the children is only £86 per week, I was planning to pay well over this to £120 which is still a lot less than £1000 per month.... My ex wife is saying that it's not allowed and that we will have to go back to court? Who is right?
Your help is appreciated
laz34 Editor 03/09/2014 at 9:35 am
@Bob, access and maintenance are two different things and have nothing to do with each other. Just because your ex claims benefits doesn't mean she is not entitled to CSA from you. It is your income they use to work out any child maintenance not hers. However, if she does make a claim they can only back date it to the date that she made the claim, so you don't need to worry about the last 5 years of payments.
Bob 02/09/2014 at 4:16 pm
I have been split with my ex for nearly 5 years I have gave her money when I was in work but have no proof as I didn't think I would need it she is now threatening me with CSa as I am about to start a new job I have been told as she claims benifits she will receive very little if not nothing at all from CSa but I will still lose out on a lot of money as I will be on a high wage can you clarify this for me so I know what action I need to take next also she has said I will not be aloud to see my child surely if I am paying maitenaince I am entitled to access any help in clearing up my query would be appreciated thanks
Trevor 01/09/2014 at 5:36 pm
Your comments in the "when do I stop paying" section say "Child support payments will end when the child turns 19 years old, even if they are still in full-time studies." - are you sure that is 100% true? - my daughter turned 19 in July, im still paying - she left school and did some sort of college course which I believe she has now finished. Ive no idea what she is doing now. The CSA were clueless when I rang them
Sammy1 26/08/2014 at 7:42 pm
My partners child is 18 in sept 2014, he tells him he is going back to sixth form in sept 2014, to take Alevels, but he has also told my partner he will be working full time as well, my question is this, does my partner still have to pay for him ? As he is working full time? I can not find the answer to this question so could really do with some help. Much appreciated
Marcus 20/08/2014 at 3:16 pm
My son turns 19 in September, he has left 6th form and is now effectively an unemployed school leaver. He "may" go to Uni or he "may" try to get an apprenticeship.

I seem wholly unable to obtain a definitive answer anywhere to the question "when will my CSA payments cease?"
Nana 17/08/2014 at 10:12 am
My partner have kids with his previous relationship and also have 2 kids with me and 1 on the way. he start a new job with minimun wage with £200 pw after tax deduction. And I would like to know how much csa will he have to paid.
Thanks
emme Editor 12/08/2014 at 11:31 am
@pete, that sad news about your girlfriends ex partner. However, she won't receive any money from the csa in the future.
pete 12/08/2014 at 8:25 am
Hi my girlfriend has two kids with her husband they have separated and she was receiving money off him through csa we have recently found out he has passed away in car accident and she's petrified for the upkeep of kids and not shore with him passing away she will still receive money as she's only working short hours herself
KEZ 10/08/2014 at 5:56 pm
Hi. My partner is being told he has to buy his children's school shoes and go halves on the holiday childcare on top of the maintenance agreed by CSA.
Is this right?
She has also stopped him from seeing the children if he refuses to pay out for these extra items.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers,
Kerry
Eric 09/08/2014 at 8:17 am
Hi. Does anyone know the definitive answer on this please? The terms if my divorce are I continue to pay my ex wife until the children reach 18 or complete tertiary education until first degree. In theory this could continue for ever. Is there a definitive age for children you can finally stop paying?
sonny 09/08/2014 at 6:26 am
Hi, my partner has got a 16 and a nearly 19 year old, the older one is told to continue college. How long has the maintenance be paid for the adult child?
bob 08/08/2014 at 2:32 pm
My son is 17 years old and has just started an apprenticeship with an employer and getting paid for full time hours. When does my maintenance payments stop?
Devoted-Dad 01/08/2014 at 2:02 pm
Does the CSA or equivalent take into consideration, extra curricular activities which requirement payment like, tuition fees etc?
bee 27/07/2014 at 3:42 pm
My husband had to pay for his daughter until her 20th birthday because she was attending college for a minimum of 12 hours a week. He was advised to ring the CSA on her 20th birthday to get payments stopped as the CSA would probably take 3-4 months to reduce payments.We have no idea if his 18 year old son is still at college or not, I wouldn't put it past his ex to be falsely claiming child benefit as she was falsely claiming disability benefits during the whole of their 14 year marriage.
Dazza 16/07/2014 at 1:59 pm
My daughter will be 17 in September , her exams are now finished, she has worked during school time, every saturday at a department store, now she has finished school she works some weekdays as well. Her mum,"my ex wife" has been remarried for at least two years or more, Bearing all this in mind, after my daughter turns 18 , can i stop the Maintenance Payments ?
peweee 14/07/2014 at 8:26 pm
Hi my daughter turns 16 next June & is planning to study part time at 6th form & an apprenticeship in a hair salon (which she already works in on weekends) I was just wondering if I will still have to pay child maintenance or not?
fizliz7 29/06/2014 at 11:38 am
My son is 18 and starting an apprenticeship where he needs to go to college for one day per week and complete a level 2 qualification. For the rest of the week he will be in a work setting learning the job, he will be paid minimum wage for apprentices. Should his dad still pay maintenance? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Pman 26/06/2014 at 6:25 pm
It would appear this website is well out of date as you do not stop paying at 19 as stated here ,It went up to 20 over a year ago
Lukes_Wife 25/06/2014 at 1:17 pm
My husband is now 30 but it has since transpired that Luke's dad has NEVER paid maintenance!
Is there any chance of a back payment?
Thanks.
nuno77 25/06/2014 at 1:15 pm
hi my son turn 18 this month, he is going to college too, he has got a girlfriend and she is pregnant, her due date is July 2014 do i have to still paying him child maintenance when he become a father next month. Thank in advance for your answers
Set 21/06/2014 at 10:22 pm
I am estranged from my daughters I have 2 children aged 21 & 19, I am paying for the 19 year old, I have checked to see if she is in full time education & I am told that she is not in collage like her mother states, how can I prove I should not still be paying ?
tk 15/06/2014 at 2:43 pm
I have been going through a chance agency which is the department human servicesfor child support payments from the non-custodial parent who lives in another state and it has been 2 years and they claim that they cannot couldn't get in contact with the statehe lives in. Hebehind in arrears over $37,000. What can I do 2 get child support payments paid to me. He is working he lives in Florida and I am in Georgia. This is a distressing process and my daughter graduated from high school two years ago he stop paying child support. Out of thec10 years that we have been divorced I received child support payment for about 3 years. Please advice because dccs does not care.
Charlie 13/06/2014 at 12:37 am
Me and my ex have been apart for 4 years we have 3 children together I'm re married with no other children and he has a girlfriend he lives with and she has a son I have 2 problems
I receive £50 every week for the children this is only been happening for a few months but he gives it every week with out fail the csa told me that how much I should get on the info we provided which was fine but Iv just found out he left his job his girl friend came in to some money and now they have there own toy shop.should I ask for more money ? And we're do I stand as he is abit dodgy and will have a way round not to pay me any more I'm annoyed as he told my kids don't tell mummy somethink snot right
And the other thing is that they both smoke weed and spend £80 a week on it and the fact I hate it around my kids but kids want to see him don't know what to do as Iv already told them not to do it but they don't listen
Worried mum of 3 children :-(
Deelishis 07/06/2014 at 2:08 am
My 19 yr old daughter is working full time,we live in New York City ,I am still paying support when does it end ,New York state law requires that we pay until the child is 21yrs old ,I understand that if the child is not supporting herself, she been working since January 2014,I love my daughter very much, I have been paying support now for 2 yrs while she was still in school,she graduated High school last yr, please can some one give me some answers,I work a $8 hr job, it's hard enough trying to pay my bills l am renting a room can't afford a apt,don't mind doing for my daughter ,but the New York State law is not fair ,in newyork state a female child is of age at 18yrs old she can get married,without my consent ,and they still want me to pay support while she is working full tint
Deelishis 07/06/2014 at 1:56 am
Hi I pay child support in newyork city ,me and my daughter works full time for the same company,she turned 19yrs old yesterday,why am I still paying support , New York State law says until she is 21. Is there a way that I can stop paying support to get,
SeparatedDads 06/06/2014 at 10:49 am
Your payments for your eldest will end when he turns 20 or when he leaves full time education (full time education is classed as no higher than A levels) which ever comes first.
workshopwilly 05/06/2014 at 7:50 pm
Smy son is 17and in sixth form also has a full time job his brother is still at school and I have a new born daughter with I different partner that iam still with when do I stop paying for the eldest or do the payments go down
SeparatedDads Editor 04/06/2014 at 10:47 am
@Ronnie, when your payments end depends on when your daughter leaves full time education (not higher than A levels). If she is 18 and has already left school then your payments should end.
ronnie 03/06/2014 at 7:33 pm
My daughter turns 18 very shortly and is working part time.do my payments stop at 18 or do they carry on?
na 21/05/2014 at 8:30 am
I was informed by the CSA that i had to comtinue to pay for support until my daughter was 20 years old but you infromation is dated 2014, what is the age when i stop paying and where can i find that information documented that i can legally quote to the CSA
COlc 09/05/2014 at 1:39 pm
"If the child continues to study full-time (at least 12 hours per week) after this date, you will still have to pay child support. Full-time studies include A level standard but do not include university / professional studies after this level. Child support payments will end when the child turns 19 years old, even if they are still in full-time studies."

This is not quite true payments stop when the parent with care stops claiming Child Benefit from the DWP same office as CSA my 19year old daughter who i dont see was in further education until 18 and left home over a year ago she has had several part time jobs my ex wife has continued to claim Child Benefit the CSA have told me they can stop payment until my ex stops claiming ....they called my ex and asked if my daughter is working and has left home she denied this however did say she had finished college which i know is a lie she finished last year ...I cant stop paying as the CSA will just instruct my employer to pay them ...i tried this (I believe the system is floored with holes) at the end of it i know i will be owed over 1 years of payments to be returned the CSA tell me if this is the case the monies owed will be repaid in payments and my ex can spread over 5 years ...so each month passes and i pay another £400 knowing my daughter doesn't see a penny of it and on top of that it will take 5 years to get it back ..sorry for the ramble but the system is wrong
75no 17/03/2014 at 9:34 pm
Hi

My son turns 18 shortly and is attending college until June. He also has a couple of part time jobs. At what point do I have to stop paying maintainance for him?

Thanks
nat 01/03/2014 at 8:46 pm
My partner has always paid for his kids. His 17 year old daughter recently quit college and got a job at a nursery instead. He rang csa to tell them of the change in circumstance as csa instructs fathers to do and got spoken to like something on the bottom of someones shoe. Csa will not take his word for it and have tried to contact the ex on numerous occasions to ask her without success. Is there another way of providing evidence that his daughter is now working and earning a wage without having to hear it from the mothers mouth ?
venus 06/02/2014 at 1:06 pm
Hi there,
Would you be able to help me if my husband still have to pay csa payments for his daughter who will be 16 years old in June if she'll leave college, will work part time also, attend to a year course which will prepare her to go to the army but only a few hours a week and my husband and I are expecting our second baby on 20 march 2014?

Your response will be highly appreciated.

S.
Lyn 26/01/2014 at 5:42 pm
What age do payments stop is it 19 or 20 yrs old any one know
Peachie 06/01/2014 at 7:53 pm
How can the new legislation apply to people who have paid all along and now get told you have to pay until their 19 yrs my daughter dropped out last yr and as gone back this yr but I carried on paying she will be 18 in two weeks old enough to do everything , but she as no intention of working so why should I carry on paying if she can't help herself got her a part time job which "wasn't what she was looking for at the moment" so she lost that . So what would happen if I stop payments when she turns 18. This was an agreement between her mother and I,as advised by the CSA, a weekly standing order
Dee 28/12/2013 at 3:53 pm
My partners son is 18 and is in college and works 16 hours, does he still have to pay child support
Lpool 14/11/2013 at 5:07 pm
Hello I have been informed that my 19 year old daughter has left full time education and has got herself a job, I have been told by the CSA I have to report it to the child benefits agency, I have tried this and they tried very hard to fob me off for reporting that she is now working, in fact they either put the phone down on me or we got disconnected, what I would like to know is how do I find out if she is in full time education and if not how do I find out if she is in full time employment,

Your help is greatly appreciated , thank you
lulu 11/11/2013 at 11:53 am
My daughter is now 25 years old, and I brought her up by myself. I was married to her father, for 5 years, then we divorced. He moved away, and did not see his daughter until she was 15 Years old. He did not pay any maintenance money for her. Do I qualify for any back payments. I realise she
was born in 1988, and she is now an adult. But it seems very unfair he never
paid any monies for her upkeep. He has changed his name. He has another partner now, and they had 2 children who are about 14 and 17. Please could
you let me know how I stand legally. Thank you so very much. Lulu.
Higgy 07/09/2013 at 7:01 pm
My daughter is just going to uni and staying away from her home she is nineteen in June and I was wondering if the csa would let me pay the maintinance which is a substantial amount straight into her bank account to help her out with her car food ect or could I do this without their permission
sammy 07/09/2013 at 9:30 am
on the csa website it says maintenance payments stop at 20 years old, on here it says at 19 years old? which is correct?
Nic 03/09/2013 at 6:43 pm
Do you still need to pay child maintenance when a child is 16 and recieves disability living allowance?
me 11/08/2013 at 6:14 am
I have not seen my children for 2 years because my ex has not bothered responding to any emails or messages sent regarding contct. do i have any say in maintenance payments to them or do i still have to continue paying regardless?
Quizzer 21/07/2013 at 9:24 am
I have just had money taken out of my wages at source by the delightful CSA as they say I'm in arrears! (Direct debit for years!!!! so how?????) My daughter is on a hairdressing apprenticeship and does one day a week at college for this (Less than 12 hours) but the CSA have said that this is classed as FTE? Surely by their own reckoning any course under 12 hours a week is NOT FTE? Please help with clarification as I am spiraling into debt because of this and they are due to take out another lump sum!
me 19/07/2013 at 10:52 am
My partner is still paying maintenance for his 18 year old daughter (18 this October), she is attending college, and working part time, does he still need to pay maintenance?
lilema 16/06/2013 at 10:55 pm
My sons 5 this year I have never had any money off his dad and all he says when I ask him he says no you don't need it and you get benefits for him I have had a hard time in court with him in the past over my son and I just what to know that if I try to get maintenance for my son would I have to go back to court because he will try to take it to court as he has parental rights and hes the type of person to do that and after 5 years I am I able to still apply for it
Deano 16/06/2013 at 9:38 am
Hi I have been paying child maintenance for my daughter for the last
Ten years. She has just sat her a levels and does not want to go
To Uni. Can I stop paying child maintenance now?
Adrian 14/06/2013 at 1:43 pm
Hi.

The Department for work and pensions (CSA) are still trying to make me pay for my son who turned 19 March 31st 2013.

They say ythere is new lefgislation.

How can they do this? 19 is an adult surely?
ally 11/05/2013 at 9:14 am
Hi I want some advice ive allways paid my child support for the last 11 years but just in the last few months my business is struggling and im just making enough to cover running costs im a self employed driving instructor. I contacted my ex to tell her that im struggling at the moment and will try to sort it out as soon as things pick up but straight away she is down my throat threatening me to go back to csa as we have allways done a direct payment into her bank ac. I haven't paid any tax for last year as I have not earnt enough so was wondering what will happen if she does contact them ?? oh I also live with my partner and her son does this affect things??
tay 07/05/2013 at 6:14 pm
I'm 16 years old and have been removed from my home where I lived with my mother. My dad pays maintenace money each month, am I entitled to that money if I'm not living with my mum?
Inny 01/05/2013 at 9:14 am
I wonder if you could advise me of my rights.I agreed a seperation agreement with my ex-wife 16 years ago. It was lodged with the local courts, but they don't have a copy they can pass to me.My son is now 22 and has been at Univerity for the past four years and my daughter is almost 19, and is studying to be a nurse, receiving a £500/month bursery while training.As I dont have a copy of the agreement I signed all those years ago, I wondered if you could advise if I should still be paying my ex-wife maintainence.my concern is, if I happened to be worded in the agreement that I'd pay until they finished University, can she legally hold me to this, even though their now over the age of 19?
ray 16/04/2013 at 5:56 pm
Hi I wondered if you could advise me. My child leaves school in July and is starting at a college 3 days a week on a football academy course. The course is for 3 days and from 9-4 only. Will my csa payments stop or will I have to continue paying them. He is getting a job for the other 2 days.
Hope you can help
sara 11/04/2013 at 4:08 pm
My husbands daughter turned 19 in March 2013 and we stopped paying CSA but today he recieved a call from CSA saying he has to pay until she turns 20 next year! Is this correct?
Me 27/03/2013 at 3:26 pm
I have an agreement set out as part of a divorce many years ago, my son is now 16 and I (naturally) want to stop paying my ex. (Both have remarried since)

The solicitor has gone bust and disappeared but I have gained a copy of some papers from the divorce court

He is now at college (not stayed on at school) and I believe I can now stop payments but before I broach the subject I need to be certain!

I want to divert the money to him, but don't want to be tied to it as redundancies etc.

Any advice or will I have to heft out yet more money to a "solicitor" to help me determine this?

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