Working with the CSA on Support Payments

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Working with the CSA on Support Payments

When Your Financial Situation Changes

Your income might increase through a promotion or new job, or it could drop suddenly if you face redundancy or reduced hours. Either way, if you pay child maintenance through the Child Maintenance Service (CMS), your payments will need to reflect your current circumstances.

Your maintenance amount is based on your gross income, and when that income changes significantly, your payments should change too. The CMS uses HMRC data to verify your earnings when changes are reported or suspected, rather than receiving automatic annual updates.

Reporting a change in circumstances is straightforward. You can do this by contacting the CMS directly, and they will reassess your case. The system aims to adjust payments based on what you actually earn, though bureaucratic delays can sometimes occur. If you want a rough idea of what you might pay after a change, online calculators can give you an estimate, though the official calculation may differ.

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What Happens if You Lose Your Job

Redundancy or job loss affects your ability to pay child maintenance. The CMS will recalculate your payments when your income drops.

If you move onto certain means tested benefits such as income based Jobseeker's Allowance with no other income, you will usually pay a flat rate. This is a fixed weekly amount rather than a percentage of earnings. Not all Universal Credit claimants will pay this flat rate, as it depends on your overall income. The exact figure is set by the government and can change, so check the child maintenance section on GOV.UK for the current rate.

Report your job loss to the CMS as soon as possible. Continuing to pay at your previous rate when you cannot afford it will cause problems. The CMS can backdate changes in some situations, but this is not guaranteed, so prompt reporting protects you.

Keep records of your redundancy notice, your benefit claim, and any correspondence with the CMS. If there are any disputes later about when your circumstances changed, having documentation will support your case.

Your situation may be slightly different. ask a question below ↓ and our editorial team will reply with our advice.

When Your Income Increases

If you get a new job or a significant pay rise, your maintenance amount may be adjusted when the CMS next reviews your case or when a change is reported.

The receiving parent can request a review if they believe your income has increased substantially. The CMS will then check your current earnings and recalculate if the increase meets their threshold. Generally, the change needs to result in a difference of at least 25% from the current calculation before the CMS will reassess. For the specific figures and current thresholds, search for "child maintenance calculation" on GOV.UK.

It is advisable to report income changes promptly. If your payments are set too low because of outdated information, arrears can build up once the CMS catches up with your actual earnings. These arrears will still need to be paid, and the CMS has several enforcement powers available to recover unpaid maintenance. These include deduction from earnings orders, where your employer takes payments directly from your wages, as well as deductions from bank accounts and, in serious cases, court action that can lead to driving licence removal or imprisonment.

Requesting a Reassessment

Either parent can ask the CMS to look at a case again when circumstances change. This includes changes to income, but also other factors such as the number of nights your children stay with you, or changes to how many children the calculation covers.

To request a reassessment, contact the CMS and explain what has changed. They will ask for evidence depending on the type of change. For income related adjustments, they will usually verify your earnings through HMRC records, though they may ask for payslips, P60s, tax returns for self employed income, or bank statements in some cases. Having three months of payslips available and your most recent P60 will cover most situations.

The CMS will not reassess every small change. The threshold generally requires either a 25% change in income or a change that would alter the weekly payment by a specified minimum amount.

If you disagree with a CMS decision, you have the right to challenge it through their mandatory reconsideration process and, if still unsatisfied, appeal to a tribunal. This is worth knowing if you believe they have made an error in calculating your income or applying the rules.

The system works best when both parents communicate changes promptly and the CMS has accurate information. Consider setting a reminder to review your maintenance situation whenever you have a significant change at work, whether that is a new role, a pay rise, reduced hours, or redundancy.

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SeparatedDads Editor 21/05/2026 at 9:16 am
@Christopher Fair enough, a DNA test is the only thing that gives you certainty before you start paying out for years. You can arrange one privately for around £150 to £200, but if you want the result to stand up legally for the CSA or court, make sure it's an accredited chain of custody test. The mother's consent is needed if the child is under 16, so be prepared for that conversation. Until you've got the result in writing, don't let anyone pressure you into agreeing figures.
Christopher 15/11/2024 at 12:57 am
There is only one way for me to believe is though a (dna test .that’s the only way )
Christopher 15/11/2024 at 12:33 am
So my advice stop writing all over the internet.whose messages I sent years ago were (spam ).it was a (joke )but your Energy and effort into your relationship with your partner and kids .(because you will never see or hear from me again )so it’s pointless writing all over internet.
DAZ 12/11/2024 at 7:52 pm
I really need some advice regarding paying my child maintenance my ex-wife moved my children 130 miles away without my consent , I then had to involve a solicitor to go to a family court for a court order to have access to see my children . Obviously my ex wife was upset about that and ever since then has been set on doing anything she can regarding getting more child maintenance she has put in a appeal not once but twice to a Tribunal saying I earn a lot more money than I do ( I am a self employed Plumber ) the 2nd appeal was stating I had undeclared and diverted income -this hearing is still ongoing after sending in 800 pages of evidence from my bank statements & my accounts . The child maintenance have been on my case regarding payment and say I owe nearly £400 a month there is no way I can afford this and am now seeing my local MP for help regarding the constant harassment from both of them - this has to stop and I was just wondering if anyone else has been in this situation and had any advice for me please .
wicket6 07/09/2023 at 4:21 pm
It should be a crime to make people pay CM when 8 times out of 10 it isn't spent on the child.
Mike 24/02/2023 at 10:00 am
I lost my job back at the start of January and was out of work for a month, I’ve paid this months money upfront but my daughters mum is asking for Januarys money too. I have started paying that back but she keeps demanding it right away even tho I have gave her part of last months and all of this months.
I just want to know if it’s obliged that I pay last months back out of interest. I obviously don’t mind as the money helps with the day to day care of our daughter.
Rambo 26/09/2022 at 11:08 pm
@Armed forces,( im at the stage now where I dont want to ever meet this kid ).I have grieved hurt and buried this kid and moved on .(I will not go back) life is to short to be dwelling on the past and the past wasn't that good in the first place .(now I look after number one ).you will get to this stage its the best stage they have (zero leverage) because they have nothing you want .I call this the (bliss stage ).
Rambo 26/09/2022 at 10:48 pm
@armed forces, im sorry to hear this .(dont let it get you down )all us guys go though it when you spit up and have kids .(I myself went though that phase )I was even thinking off going to court for full custody and if you knew me you would off (laughed) like the people around me did .put I genuinely did want a relationship with my daughter but I have (realised and come to terms with the fact that's never going to happen).it gets better with (time mate ).keep yourself busy stay positive dont dwell on something that's completely out off your control. (I dont know if this is right but for myself I buried my daughter many years ago the same way I buried my father ).it's easier that way now im completely over it .and my life has improved I hope this helps.
armed forces vet 69 26/09/2022 at 5:24 pm
Hi,
I have not been able to have contact with my 2 children for 4 years now now aged 14 and 16. I tried going down the legal route, However she has poisoned the children to the point where when asked they have said they do not want anything to do with me. My ex wife has told me they don't even call me dad anymore. the surnames have been changed so that i have no association with them. I love and think about my children every single day. This has left me heartbroken. I have always looked after my children and have continued to pay for them every month. Up to now I have given her over £19000.00 in 4 years yet i have not even had the opportunity to even get a school photo? I bought them phones, she took the sim cards out? what can i do???
Babs 28/07/2022 at 3:01 pm
My daughter has been paying / still paying her ex for her daughter who is actually in full time work and has been on/off for at least the last year. Granddaughter will be 20 in December. Why don't the payments stop. My daughter is in a low paid job and can barely afford her rent. Her ex has also fraudulently over claimed child benefit. She is on good terms with her daughter but she is reluctant to say anything against her father
No.1dad 30/06/2021 at 9:21 pm
Hi have recently been told that I need to up my monthly payments from 426 too 454 a month , im currently already struggling to make these figures , plus I do a lot extra than is down im on the basic rate , for example in the last month I have had my children for 13 nights and 15 days that is nearly half of the the month but im down as 1 to 2 nights a week , I constantly get hassle from mum to cover this date that date do this do that , I don't mind sometimes but its quite regular, I also have to spend 500 a month on fuel just to get to and from my works , should child maintenace be taking this into account as when I get paid 500 pounds of that money Is really never there as its got to be used on fuel , can someone help with this or do I just need to get a job closer to home where potentially I would earn 8k a year less maybe more, im happy with paying the 426 but with all the extras I do and fuel in to consideration I feel like csa is a load bollox by tarnishing everybody with the same brush when there is actually a lot of good dads out there but unfortunately mums who no they can play this crap system.LoG
Mark 20/04/2021 at 11:37 am
Hi all, I have been paying maintenance through CSA for my 2 children. I have recently been told through my daughter and my ex wife that my daughter got expelled from college (therefore no longer in FT education) I contacted CSA to report this change. I was asked to provide evidence - which I obviously don’t have due to these being verbal conversations. CSA then rang my ex wife who has told them my daughter is still in education - a bare faced lie. Can anyone please help me on what to do?
Topher 10/03/2021 at 3:37 pm
Hi,

I’ve recently just started paying child maintenance using direct pay. At this moment in time my payments are in credit (paid more than agreed). CMS seem unhappy regarding this as the payments aren’t on a set date. Do they need to be on a set date or can I just pay and ensure the payments are in credit as and when I can afford the payments at any random dates?
Chocb33 18/12/2020 at 8:49 pm
What information can the CSA ask your employer? Is it restricted to topics of earnings, salary, hours, tax, bank accounts etc., or can they inquire about anything and the employer has to comply?
Smithy 16/11/2020 at 12:14 pm
My ex has gone to CSA they are asking for 280 per month 2 children 1 chid is in full time respite but apparently I still have to pay for her I only earn 1600 a month after tax after my rent and bills I will have 40 pound a week for food and clothes I just don’t know what to do ??
Nelly 01/11/2020 at 12:20 pm
Hi

My wife and I have separated and living in different houses and waiting for the divorce to go through. We did agree a 50/50 split with our 14 year old son, but since the split he’s wanted to live with me. So we’ve agreed he stays with me in the week and my wife has him at weekends for 2 nights and 1 night on alternate weekends. My wife is asking for the maintenance payments still to be made based on the 50/50 split. Do I still have to pay the maintenance as I’m now the main career and she’s still receiving the child allowance and family tax credit..?
Twigg 07/09/2020 at 4:46 pm
Step daughter is doing level 2
Collage 4 days aweek. Does her dad still have to pay maintenance.
Dan 06/08/2020 at 3:12 pm
My ex is threatening to go to csa for my son who is 9. Since he was born I have not worked. I met my new partner 5 years ago and was diagnosed with brain cancer just over two years ago. I have had three major brain ops and radiotherapy plus a permanent shunt fitted. I still have some of the tumour left and am waiting on mri to find out if and how much it is growing/how fast. I can’t drive as not allowed to for three years after last operation. I do not get any benefits such as PIP as can get myself up, washed and dressed and prepare a simple meal whilst my partner is at work. How do I complete an assessment so my ex stops threatening me to show her that I don’t have the means to pay. We do have my son with us every holiday and buy clothes unform etc My partner does all the driving to pick him up and drop him off so doing what she can
K2 22/07/2020 at 8:44 am
My daughter is 22 and was working before we divorced with her mother, now she went back to college, my ex wife got 1.2 million of my pension funds, she bought a car for the daughter without telling me, now I'm expected to pay half of it, she is renting an expensive place and I must pay for half of the rent, when I started paying maintenance I started with R2000, and R1800 for school every month now it's 10000 every month I couldn't afford it and went to court but my case was dismissed, now she is garnishing my salary, I feel like killing myself cause the law doesn't help us as men,
K. 14/07/2020 at 12:20 pm
@SCB

our situation is the same, my husband however pays £83 per week. I his wife don't have a job as we have 4 small children 2 which don't start school for another year. We've been paying for the child he never is aloud to see for 10 years now.
My husband got a better job, they took double! So my advice don't work yourself down it's not worth it. Csa only class as having 3 kids and not 4.

I have simple now stated to my husband he quit I work. Then he hasn't got money to pay her, and my wages can't be taken. Have a think.
Wullie 25/05/2020 at 2:10 pm
I've been paying child support for years my kid is 18 and has been on a college course since August 2019 which finished due to covid 19 , he was working in a superstore part time supposedly but earning over £1300 per month which I see is not part time but no one speaks to me and I'm still paying CSA what should I do
Kylie 30/03/2020 at 10:45 pm
@bones.yeah I am single Mama I have 10 children with 10 different fathers because I’m a free spirt and they all pay child support because they are (real men )that don’t complain about the Coronavirus and go to work everyday .so take a leaf from there tree you dole bludger .
Bones 30/03/2020 at 11:15 am
I've recently been laid off due to coronavirus. I can't afford the full payment of csa but I could afford half until the virus is manageable and I'm able to go back to work. I've been told by my boss that it could take upto 2 months before the government sorts out the back pay so until then I have no money. What can I do?
Ir8gran 31/01/2020 at 4:17 pm
My granddaughter is now 18 and as far as we know is not attending the college she's supposed to be doing her Further Education at... Why can't my son STOP paying the CSA....due to data protection the college won't tell us if she attends or not and my granddaughter won't reply to messages sent to her
Where the hell does my son stand with this
turk 22/01/2020 at 1:55 pm
Hello,

I pay child maintenance for my 2 children with my ex wife. We do not see eye to eye and therefore do not communicate. She has been convicted of fraud and therefore do not trust a word she says.
My questions are -
when do i stop paying csa?
Do CSA do any background checks to make sure that the Child/children over 16 are working, incase the parent receiving the money does not declare it?

My concern is due to my ex wife's conviction i do not feel she will declare they are working, any help would be appreciated.
gaylle 13/09/2019 at 1:41 pm
My wageslip includes salary and payments for a mileage allowance. The CMA are including this milaeage allowance as income is this correct
Jay 29/08/2019 at 7:23 pm
I’ve recently been told to pay for my kids which I don’t have a problem with but they want a third of my money I only get 300 a week & my rent is £150 which doesn’t leave a lot for petrol for work about £30 a week which means I have no money for food or bills and I don’t know what to do. I’ve offered my ex £45 a week but she wants the £90 csa wants Also I’ve just had to go bankrupt & I have no assets. Plus I have are 19 year old boy living with me he has adhd & epilepsy plus hyper mobility syndrome so finds it hard to get work so I’m surpporting with no extra money.
Rik 25/05/2019 at 9:21 pm
Been paying csa for almost two years now, got an attachment of earnings, £31.12 weekly was agreed.. For the past year my boss has been taking upto three times the amount, sometimes more than half my wages.. Without any consent from me whatsoever, I have payslips going back to 2017.. I am over a thousand pounds out of pocket because my boss think it's OK to give my wages away.. Would appreciate any advice you can give. Thank you.
SCB 12/05/2019 at 5:05 pm
I have issues with child maintenance but my main one is that I simply can’t afford the payments. I have 3 kids at home and I pay maintenance for a son from a previous relationship. He’s 10 now and his mother won’t even let me see him, I have been to court so many times I’ve lost count and to be honest I’ve just given up it’s been affecting my relationship with the kids in front of me every day. I’m asked to pay £53.41p a week and I swear the money leaves me and my partner financially crippled we’re not big earners and we’ve a lot of money going out. It’s got to the point now where I’m considering leaving work and signing in the bru as I feel we’d be better off. Can the child maintenance service be reasoned with? My money situation is starting to effect me mentally. My relationship is suffering and I’m not sure how much longer we can hold things together. My partner is resentful of the money we have to give my ex. I know I have to pay for him and I’m happy to do so but the way the payments are worked out are so Unfair. Is there anything I can do?
Bob 02/03/2019 at 12:05 am
@steve101.your men after my own heart (I don’t want give her mother money at all ).i would give my daughter money direct or for school cloths books pay for driving lessons in future or even help with her first purchase off a car at 16 .so she can be independent and travel around and be safe without relying on anyone .
Steve 101 01/03/2019 at 10:45 pm
Looking for some help what exactly is further education class as? My daughter is turning 16 and going to college, i don't not want to pay for my kid but am getting robbed as it is from her mother and know she hardly receiving any of the money i am paying.
I would rather give my daughter the money,
Says i can stop payments unless she goes into further education so again what exactly is this?
Rick 19/11/2018 at 11:32 am
Hi I’ve been paying child maintenance for my son for 4 years now,he is 19 and agreed to pay child maintenance up until my son is 21 providing he is in full time education,I pay the maintenance straight into her back account(I have no contact with my son or my ex),I have been informed that my son is working with my ex’s new partner,I have told my solicitor this and she says she has written several letters to my ex asking her to provide evidence/information that my son is in full time education,she has/will not reply.Any ideas what I should do next,I feel I’m being used not only by my ex and son but also by my solicitor ??
Trev 17/11/2018 at 8:45 am
I have been paying maintenance voluntarily for 5 years now my daughter is 18 and has left College unfortunately she has failed her mouth and English.

My ex partner out of the blue contacted me and told me that she's back in college doing her math and English and she's doing a Level 3. But she has not provided me with any proof of her level 3. The way I understand it 12 hours more in college warrants a full-time course so math and English is not considered as full-time.
I have two questions first one is can the college refuse me information about my daughter attendance and my ex partner does she have to give me proof that our child is in fulltime education.
Ally 29/10/2018 at 10:06 am
Hi needing advice please, my son lived with me from October last year until the end of May and went back to live with his mother right away she started claiming child maintenance which was fine. At the beginning of September she chucked our 13 year old out againto live with me and my wife so you would think that child maintenance would stop but know they keep taking money from me and arrears from when he lived with me as she was in receipt of child benefit and still is. I contacted child benefit and put in an application forum in this can take 8 weeksbut child maintenance is Still taking 466.00 every 4 weeks of us and it's left us completely skint. I have issued evidence to child maintenance of his new school as we live in a different district but this is not good enough it's only child benefit they can accept. It's so unfair we are so skint and it's not benefiting the children at all I have 10.00 left until I get paid in 5 days but will be skint again after bills and 466 to her. Please any advice would be great
Giles 06/10/2018 at 12:36 pm
Hi I left my ex partner and my 2 sons 8 months ago. I have them sleeping over 3 or more nights a week. Iam self employed but 7 weeks ago I had a motorbike accident and broke my knee and ankle. I have had no income for the time I have had off obviously but do I still need to pay my ex maintenance towards my son's for the time I have had off? I'm still unable to work for now. I give her X amount the same every week until the accident. So does that mean I owe her it all back dated? For example X amount X7 or nothing at all? Thanks
Jw81 16/07/2018 at 9:32 pm
Hi I adopted 2 children with my ex partner 4 years ago but we split last August. We were givin a adoption allowance to take these 2 children on in region of 750 a month. Which was both means tested on both are incomes. My ex asked if she could keep the full allowance she would not ask me for maintenance. We have alternative weekends and I have them one night thru week every week. She went back on her word an went to csa . Csa first said we will not take that allowance into account an said I have to pay 80 a week. Find it so unfair that is not took into account as this payment was given to provide a better life for kids. But now she has full allowance plus my payments each week . After some advice basically. Local council have said they will not intervene as it is a personal matter
SeparatedDads Editor 10/07/2018 at 1:54 pm
CMS base payments on the amount earned from the previous year via HMRC records. This means the following year your payments would go down to reflect the previous year's non-earnings. Unfortunately, there is little I can say to help given CMS has taken the matter to court. The main thing was to keep communicating with CMS in order to try to resolve the matter. Going AWL by not having an address where CMS could contact you may have lead to CMS assuming you were ignoring any letters and trying to avoid payment. If you ignore reminders, then court is the remaining option. The magistrates’ court may decide not to make an order if you seem to be co-operating with the CSA or CMS. So, if you can contact CMS to try to resolve any issues you have, this may help. You can see more via whichAs Citizens Advice states, if you can, you can make a suitable repayment offer to avoid court action at any time.
Spally 06/07/2018 at 12:18 pm
Im a separated dad who has paid csa payments up until last year. I have my children every weekrnd with out fail. I'm in a huge predicament with the CSA. I lost my job over a year ago and had a mental break down. I told the CSA this and my new partner supported me back.into self employment. Again I told the csa this but they still based my payments on me earning 25k a year, but I wasn't being self employed. They asked for a projection of earnings, which I provided. They wouldn't accept the accounts letter. Which i had paid £50 for. Then they asked for my tax return that I sent in April this year. Inbetween all of this I paid what I could when i could to the csa. They then sent threatening letters to my care of address at my sisters as I live in a caravan as can't afford another house. She then asked for me not to use that address. I informed the csa of this and because I no longer have an address they have let the money rack up and won't accept my last year's tax return or adjust the.amount I need to pay. Thus they now said they are taking me to court. All because I can't provide them with an address. I'm wanting to pay maintaince. But can't possibly afford the 101.00 per week they are after when I only earn 130.00. Help!
SeparatedDads Editor 25/06/2018 at 3:24 pm
Unless your daughter has left full-time education and is working i.e earning her money through an apprenticeship, then you would have to keep paying. If your daughter is in full-time education still and earning money via part-time work, then you would continue to pay child maintenance until your daughter left full-time education.
Queensman 23/06/2018 at 10:21 am
Been paying 5 years now over 20000 my daughter is 18 at work place getting 30 to 50 pound a week were do I stand on payments and do I drop her money
SeparatedDads Editor 18/06/2018 at 12:37 pm
Which of you receives child benefit for your child? If you receive child benefit, then you would not have to pay any child maintenance as you are seen as the primary carer of your child. If your ex is earning, you could claim child maintenance from her (if you receive child benefit).
SeparatedDads Editor 18/06/2018 at 9:57 am
Many thanks for sharing this with us. If both parents are earning and sharing care of the children, then just because one claim child benefit then this should not mean that that person is deemed the primary carer. Hopefully, this will be increasingly recognised.
Jayeyedee 17/06/2018 at 12:01 am
I’m just wondering if ther Are there any other fathers out there who despite having shared care or equal access to their children but still have to pay child maintenance, if so this may be of interest.

Since my son was 13 he has split his time equally with both his parents . However his mother still maintained her claim with the CMS and refused to come to a more balanced arrangement given the new circumstances. Originally the CMS stated that as my sons mother had a child benefit claim in place and in their eyes that entitled her to maintain a CM claim . I objected to this and challenged the legality of their decision as it is my understanding that CB is now income related and CM are not allowed to base their decisions on factors associated to income, and if necessary I would argue that point in court as a test case.

After much discussion, deliberation and refusal to accept the unfair situation to uphold her claim I’m glad to say that the CMS Have come to the decision that both patents are equal and provide equal care and have now finally rejected my sons mothers claim for CM and written off the past 2.5 years of alleged arrears that accrued while arguing the case.

I don’t know if anyone else has found themselves in a similar situation I just hope the information might be of help to someone .
Haro 16/06/2018 at 11:28 am
I spilt with my son's mum 7 years ago and he's lived with me since. I set to a solicitor and at the time she wasnt working so we worked together and with advice of the solicitor I agreed to give her 50 a month as he stayed with her3 nights a week. Since them over the years the amount she says she needs to.help look after him has grown to 80 a month but she only see's him for a few hours three times a week and now never ( well unless she's away with her bf and daughters when her mum has him a night or two) sleeps there. I am kind of thinking this is becoming unfair. Mainly.on him but also on me. Not sure what to do though.
Johno 25/05/2018 at 1:16 pm
My ex wife has stopped me bringing my two girls to stay with .e every fortnight I have to travel200miles to see them for six. Hours then travel back she now wants more maintenance money can claim anything with all his travelling costing me money I sometimes have to book a hotel night before
SeparatedDads Editor 05/04/2018 at 12:46 pm
Your brother would have to prove he has paid the arrears via bank statements etc.
Debs 03/04/2018 at 10:23 pm
After advice for my brother he has been paying arrears on csa for the past 4 years and he has really struggled the money comes direct from salary both children are over the age and of 18, however he has recently contacted the csa and there is no record of the first 2 years payment what can he do
SeparatedDads Editor 29/03/2018 at 12:45 pm
Much depends upon whether this is a spousal maintenance order or a child maintenance order. If it is the latter, then it is highly unlikely your friend would still have to pay, unless he has had to pay backdated arrears. You can see more about spousal maintenance via which
Sallyb75 28/03/2018 at 10:45 pm
Hi
I have a friend after advice. His daughter is now 30 but he's paying £100 month to his ex wife for maintenance? Is this right apparently the Csa back when she was younger had some sort of order. Is this still enforceable?
SeparatedDads Editor 26/03/2018 at 3:30 pm
If your partner is in arrears, then regardless of whether his child has been adopted it is still considered money owing. His arrears will last until up to the time his child has been adopted. His ex may have allowed this in theory, but CMS will continue to collect the nine months of backdated money. His only option is to appeal/complain.
HRM 26/03/2018 at 12:12 am
So my fella came to an agreement over email in regards to payments and allowed his daughter to be adopted by who his ex wife is currently with. She agreed that no more payments where to paid and the adoption would go through.
The CSA recently slapped my partner with the back dated payments from June to March and also calculated his earnings from his tax code, they don’t take into account his basic earnings they have gone of his earnings with overtime on. We sent them proof of everything in regards to her not wanting payment and agreeing and all the emails back and forth as evidence. CMS said this has to come from the mother and now my partner has to pay 476 a month for a child he’s not allowed to see and a monthly income he doesn’t actually earn.
He’s not looking at quitting his job and working bare minimium as he would be better off.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/03/2018 at 3:19 pm
The CMS have a standard rate across the board based upon the amount of income tax you pay on your gross income. It would not expect you to pay more, even if you have paid more previously.
Optimum 20/03/2018 at 8:14 pm
Asking for advice - separated 2.5 years plus, have given minimum of 1k per month to wife with no written agreement - loosely agreed to cover mortgage and bills. Using CSA calculator that’s about double what they would ask for based on my current earnings. Am
Planning for divorce settlement and am wondering if she chose to ‘chase me’ via the csa as she believed I’d been underpaying her, would the csa take my previous payments into account - ie if I have been paying more than they would have expected me to would that reduce any future payments if they were to start setting them?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/03/2018 at 2:40 pm
Child maintenance payments fall in line with child benefit payments. So when child benefit stops when the resident parent is no longer eligible to claim, then so will child maintenance payments.
Shylo77 19/03/2018 at 11:30 am
Hi I'm after some advice.
M husband has a 19 year old daughter,hes never had contact with her,he only found she was his when she 11.The relationship between him and the girls mother isnt really that good.Anyway hes been paying maintenance I just want to know will he be inform when to stop paying or does he have to count on the mother to tell him.
She finishes her college course this year.
I'm worried because I know she won't tell him when to stop paying.
Thankyoh
B. Roke-now 25/02/2018 at 11:25 pm
My son went to uni and CSA payments stopped in September but I have to support his loan as he does not get the full amount. Payments for my daughter still go to my ex-wife but recently changed from CSA to CMS. The amount has increased from £260 to £460, which is considerably more than when I was paying for both when both lived with their mother. Explanation - a new formula and because I can't prove my 16 year old daughter comes to me anymore despite a court order being in place. As a single parent there is no extra money. I have not had a pay rise since the crisis due to government cuts but have had it cut and now have to pay more pension too. I either pay up and fail to meet the mortgage and stop supporting my son or face a court. I am being assessed twice on the same income. Two wages go into the other home where the only child is my daughter. Soon there will be no home for my son to come back to. Any advice welcome.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/02/2018 at 11:27 am
If your husband does not have a taxable income, then he would not have to pay child maintenance. However, how CSA/CMS administers this is beyond our remit to answer and the information of how child maintenance is worked out covering this period is best sought directly.
Agitta 18/02/2018 at 4:21 pm
HEY! Can someone help me? My husband's been paying child mantanace money to his ex for 7 years. We thinking to move abroad but it will mean he won't have a job for a while till he finds one. Obviously, he will let CSA know, but when he will find a job again will they ask him to pay back dated? I think they can ask to pay for those, who has a job,but missed payments or didn't pay at all,not in case of been unemployed for a while? Thanks! !
SeparatedDads Editor 19/01/2018 at 11:25 am
As a rule, every year the CMS looks at the paying parent’s income, benefits and other circumstances. This helps us to work out if the amount of child maintenance they pay for the next 12 months should stay the same, or if it should go up or down
Lynda 18/01/2018 at 8:32 am
So my partner has just had a letter through from the csa as his ex partner diddnt think she was getting the correct amount of money we have never had any issues for last five years as we have always paid her we have re calculated it and per month we where 5 pounds out only thing is we are now in January 18 and this is going of his current tax year which is a lot higher then the one come march?? Once his new p60 comes out do the csa take another look and re calculate how much we should be paying or will they not review it for another year?
SeparatedDads Editor 28/11/2017 at 2:14 pm
You would have to speak to CMS directly regarding this, If CMS uses a gross income figure that has been given to HMRC to work out child maintenance, this figure must go up or down by at least 25 per cent for CMS to look again at child maintenance payments.
Diane21 27/11/2017 at 8:15 pm
Hello, looking for some help.. my partner is going from being employed to self employed and not sure how this effects child maintenance we have his daughter 50/50 however he still had to pay 159 per month.. during the first few months we aren't going to know what he will be earning and things will be very tight while he is starting up.. will csm take this in to account?

Thanks in advance
Ash 22/11/2017 at 12:18 pm
Can anyone help? My partner has a child with his ex wife and we pay 150 a month which goes directly from my partners wage and directly to child's mother as agreed on by all of us.
The problem we've got is that his work are still paying the money straight from his wages as per the csa instructions and are saying they've not been told to stop. Csa are saying they've stopped it their end. The money is still being paid SOMEWHERE. we don't have it. It's not been paid to his daughters mum and csa say they don't have it either.
His ex is now missing 2 months money and we're doing everything we can 2 try and stop any more payments so we can pay her directly instead. Nothing seems to be happening and nobody can help us get her money back! She's now 300 short and it's so unfair! We want her to have her payments is there anything else we can do???
SeparatedDads Editor 17/11/2017 at 11:39 am
Regardless of whether your partner has met his child or not, if he is the father and therefore deemed financially responsible, there is little he can do. However, other children should be taken into consideration when CMS assesses what a non-resident parent should pay
1988 16/11/2017 at 7:29 pm
can we do amything if we cant afford tp pay thy want 130 a month for a 16 year old my partners never met after his ex ran off woth his best friend while pregnant we have 4 kids under 10 2 are 8m old were s scraping by now this
Dave 10/11/2017 at 3:39 pm
My son has left school at 16 now goes to college 3 days a week but less than 12 hrs a week he lives with his mum do I still have to pay her maintenance 41.00 a week or what should I be paying if anything
BaX Editor 16/10/2017 at 3:19 pm
@Ems90 - it used to be take out after tax, but they have changed it. I think because some parents were paying loads of money into pensions etc in order to get out of paying child maintenance.
Ems90 14/10/2017 at 12:52 pm
Why is it worked out before tax and national insurance as its not a full representation of the money you take home you take less but are sort of being charged for money you don't have
Lala 08/10/2017 at 4:56 pm
Hi my boyfriend pays £73 a week for his kids but now has another on the way, does he still need to pay full amount for 2 children?
SeparatedDads Editor 28/09/2017 at 10:48 am
You would need to speak to CMS directly, we don't have any knowledge of its administrative procedures.
Herby2017 27/09/2017 at 11:13 am
I have just changed my job and as such have a different payment date which is a week later, I have informed my ex that I can either pay her part payment on the original date (7 days earlier so 7 days of payment) and the outstanding on my payday (7 days later than normal) or in full on my new payday.

Should there be any problems through the CMA with this?

I have always paid my way on time etc although she has said otherwise but I have always proven her wrong.
SeparatedDads Editor 11/09/2017 at 2:46 pm
Yes, your partner would to have to continue paying child maintenance to help support his child while his son is in full-time education. A part-time job does not count and is seen only as pocket money for himself.
Lyn35 09/09/2017 at 8:06 am
Hi my partners son, is in full time eduction going into his last year but also has a particle job, does he still have to pay child maintainer?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/08/2017 at 4:09 pm
Your child maintenance payments will end if your son is earning a wage as part of his training. They should officially end at the end of the school year September 1.
Stan 26/08/2017 at 8:45 am
My son is 16, 17 in October, and was due to go to college beginning of September. He has now got a full time job as a srlf employed roofer, learning the trade from my pal, and will be taking an nvq at some stage. Do my maintenance payments remain or do they end.
Tasha 14/08/2017 at 5:04 pm
Hi the father of my baby and I have split up I am bring my baby up by my self I get benefits and the father of my baby works full time in the army and if and when he gets time off he comes and has him weather it's for a couple of hours or a weekend he gets anything and everything that my boy needs clothes nappies food ect as I am on benifits I had went to job centre for an interview type thing to see how I am getting on and every time a go in they are pressuring me to apply for child maintenance would I need to apply for child maintenance even when he gets nappies ect it's not as if he doesn't pay for him Just confused really why he's paying for his son but I still need to apply for child maintenance when the only difference is am getting money to spend on the exact thing that's he is buying if anyone could give me advise it would be very much appreciated
SeparatedDads Editor 07/08/2017 at 12:20 pm
If you pay child maintenance through CMS, then payments will end when child benefit does. Approved courses are listed here .
Ca 05/08/2017 at 9:37 am
I have paid direct maintenance to my ex husband for my daughter since she was 10 and she has just turned 18. She lives full time with her father. She attends college but not full time I can't find out how many hours. When will my direct maintenance finish? Thanks
Redzee! 12/07/2017 at 6:14 pm
Hi, Im have a friend who has split up with his partner 6 months ago, last year he made approx £70, 000 but he is now self employed and has been for 4 months, csa have calculated his contributions from his previous salary which he is no longer on or even close too, he is really struggling with these payments and all he is being told is he has to wait until the end of the next tax year for it to be reviewed, is this correct? What if he totally lost his job what would happen?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
SeparatedDads Editor 03/07/2017 at 12:24 pm
It seems you are mixing up child maintenance and assets which have no bearing on each other. For your ex to eligible to pay child maintenance he has to be earning and paying tax via HMRC. Child Maintenance Service will not go after him while he is not earning and child maintenance will not go after assets, unless the paying parent has built up avoidable arrears. However, if you are the joint owner of the house and/or if you were unmarried and co-habiting, you may be able to register an interest in the house and you may be entitled to a financial share as part of your married/co-habitation right. You can see more which
Sammy 02/07/2017 at 11:26 pm
My ex has stopped working however has £250k in the house and refuses to pay anything towards our daughter. I work full and have had to buy a house- paying for before and after school clubs as they refuse to help with school even though they aren't working... I don't want anything from the house for the 10years we were together- however feel i should be able to get something weekly ( as it's a large 4 bedroom house with one person living in it) Our daughter stays over 2nights a week.... am I entitled to something, or could the house be sold to provide some money- weekly or monthly- I don't want a lot just to cover basic costs
Jj 21/06/2017 at 10:28 pm
My daughter us now 18. Any csa payments received sporadically over the years were minimal as father always claimed benefits. Obviously he owes backdated from months when csa had to track him down &start payments up again. And only then after me making enquiries into why it stopped. Will I be due backdated monies or get payments after my daughter is too old to legally be entitled to csa?
SeparatedDads Editor 13/06/2017 at 2:09 pm
Your only option would be to pay child maintenance in order to prevent falling into arrears. If you are responsible by law for paying child maintenance towards your children's day-to-day care, then you will naturally fall into arrears if you do not make any payments. Yes, there is no obligation to pay until your claim has been fully assessed, but you will naturally accrue arrears from the weeks and months you haven't paid while the assessment is taking place.
Cj 06/06/2017 at 12:27 pm
To add to that comment, sent payslips in December after 3 months of receiving the payslips back in march, a further two months later eg... Present time I receive a form asking for work details and more payslips they have been informed of a change in circumstances! I told them in December! All in all 6 months and still nothing about my payments and of course more time because still waiting which means more arrears.. Csa get people in debt they have to cap this it's ridiculous how we suffer for their mistakes.
Cj 06/06/2017 at 12:22 pm
Sent payslips 6 months ago and heard nothing apart from payslips sent back 3 months later. I ring them and everything will be back dated so arrears! It's not my fault they take so long it's very unfair. No obligation about paying but they have occurred additional charges in their behalf there has to be some sort of stop to all this. Is there anything that can be done. I have evidence when I sent everything.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/05/2017 at 10:54 am
We are sorry to hear you are finding things difficult. By law, every father is deemed as being jointly financially responsible for the day-to-day upkeep of their children. If you are struggling with this situation, please try and find someone you can speak to who may be able to help such as Families Need Fathers herecan help support you through advice. If you feel suicidal, please seek help by talking to someone who can help you through this such as the Samaritans here.
Kevbwigston 18/05/2017 at 5:43 pm
What a waste of time. Absent fathers are scum to csa csm. If you are a regular payer you are the golden apple to them. Stuff weather you can survive. Suicide is the only way out. But they will come and pilfere your belongings like vultures on a dead body.
Rosco 13/05/2017 at 1:57 am
Been separated for 2 month. Set an maintance payment with ex at a sum of 85 pounds. Now I got a letter from CMS that they will use my last years earnings as a base which was 35500. My basic is 26000. All the rest has been done through working additional 12hrs shifts /50 days, that is 1 a week/ but then I was still with my ex and we were living togheter so I had seen my children every day. Now separated, cant do any OT as she has set the dates for meeting children by herself. I can either take them or come back next week as she says. How can I do OT if I dont know what dates she will throw at me? How can I manage to pay 130 ponuds a week from 400 in my hand, pay all the bills savings?
SeparatedDads Editor 28/04/2017 at 2:42 pm
Your partner can check how much he should be paying which
Elar 28/04/2017 at 12:43 pm
Hi. My partner has a child. His giving for her mother £270 a month. He worn around £1100 a month (net payment), he just have a baby now and I'm just getting maternity allowence. Is this amount, right or he is paying to much? Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 31/03/2017 at 3:01 pm
You would have to take the matter further
nosaj 30/03/2017 at 7:39 pm
I was contacted in February2017 the a deductions of earnings has been put on me on an 18 year old child I know nothing about. They are going to be taking £263 a month of me in May. I only work 21hrs as I help with looking after my disabled son with my wife, we also have a 13 year old son. Child maintenance survives have said there's nothing I can do. Is this true.
Dava 20/03/2017 at 11:24 pm
Hi my son has autism. I have looked aftrr him 3 days a week sometimes more since he was born. I felt it a bit unfair my ex got all the financial benefits and I got none. I spoke to social services and the benefits department who adviced to ask her for some and I could npt make a separate claim. I asked her and she became quite volatile and angry with me. A few months later I moved in with a new girlfriend and informed my ex that my son would be staying over at a different address. She has told me she will not allow my son to stay over at our house and is being difficult with me just seeing him for a few hours. She wants more money off me now and I have give her an extra £100 this month. I am hoping she comes around my son is 13 now. I dont want to go to court but this may be my only option.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/03/2017 at 12:09 pm
If your husband avoid paying at any point, or slipped into arrears etc, the CSA can. If your husband feels he is being unfairly treated in this respect, he can complain here.
butch 15/03/2017 at 5:06 pm
my husband has just had a letter from the csa saying we owe them money from 23 years ago we do not believe that we owe anything can they do this
Eales 12/03/2017 at 6:49 pm
Should the CSA send the mother my yearly earnings? Or just the amount they should expect from me each month?
SeparatedDads Editor 24/02/2017 at 2:18 pm
Payments up to the age of 20 are made only if your son is in full-time government approved education studying A-Levels or the equivalent, not beyond.
annie 24/02/2017 at 7:36 am
My ex has paid maintenance for his son for the last 10 years. He has announced this will be his last payment ever. I thought if a child was in full time education till at least the age of 20, payments still had to be made?
TT 22/02/2017 at 1:01 pm
Hi,

My brother has been paying child maintenance the last year based on a wage he no longer earns, tax year 2014/2015. He has just had his review through and the amount will remain the same, but still His wage is 10000 less to what he earns on the tax year they are now looking at 2015/2016. I understand this cannot change as the change in his wage is not below or above the 25% threshold but can i ask how is this fair that he is paying for two years on a wage that is so much less than what they CMS are looking at?
Frustrated Dad 20/02/2017 at 7:58 pm
I split with my ex over 10yrs ago 7 since that time she has manipulated the CSA in order to boost her income, I had an agreed (50:50)shared care pattern with my Son up until recently I did all the sports activities with my Son, paid for all his clothes at my house & funded is football activities, took him on regular holiday, coached him on his homework and supported all his schooling activities. When my ex found out that based on the new system (CMS), that a shared care arrangement would result in her not receiving child maintenance from myself & that she would have to support my son also (baring in mind she earns a good salary) she made up false allegation about myself which resulted in me being arrested, thankfully the Police said there was no issue and that it was basically a waste of their time, however, with this situation as it took month to resolve my Sons has been manipulated & poisoned against me to the point now where he doesn't want to see me, I've paid solicitors costs, court fees etc totalling just under £10k in an attempt to see my Son again, all this has failed as it comes down to what my Son wants at the end of the day. As an example of how my ex has manipulated my Son, 2 occasions spring to mind, one where she told him her partner had cancer & one where she has a brain tumour, both unfounded and on both occasions she told my Son prior to any evaluation by the doctors!!
I have agreed the new costs with CMS, however, CSA have now said I owe arrears of £1500 for the last 5.5 months as I had not seen my Son, how can this be acceptable when false allegations where made up to prevent me seeing my Son & the fact I've spent a vast amount of money trying to see my Son again?? I have a debt now as a result of the court costs and cannot afford these arrears. Key question is why have the arrears only just been highlighted 6 months later???
SeparatedDads Editor 31/01/2017 at 2:42 pm
If you are in a family-based agreement, then you would decide between yourselves. You can see how much you should be paying whichThe mother of the children does not have to justify what she spends the money on, as it is seen as being contributory.
J 31/01/2017 at 10:56 am
If we have the children Friday to Sunday and also days through the week do we still have to pay child maintenance to the children's Mother even tho the money doesn't go on the children?
Hibby 25/01/2017 at 4:23 pm
Can I ask the forum if any one knows if you can avoided csa payments on a second job I work part time and was thinking about earning some extra cash doing some odd days working with an agency I heard you could earn a third of your salary does any one know if this is true
SeparatedDads Editor 24/01/2017 at 11:48 am
You would have to complain/appeal whichIf you can prove you were unemployed for the period in question, you will not have accrued child maintenance of £10K paying £5 per week. As long as you informed the CSA when you found work and your child maintenance was reassessed accordingly, then you shouldn't have a problem. Your problem only arises if you did not inform the CSA you were earning and therefore will have accrued arrears.
DesperateFather 23/01/2017 at 2:51 pm
I have a question...
I have been paying for my child, until i was made redundant in 2009 at which point i was on JSA. I called the CSA and told them about my situation and apparently i thought that was it, they would deduct £5.00 per week. I found employment 18-24 months later, fast forward today and they have contacted me saying I had to pay full maintenance for that period, which i think is totally unfair. The mother knows that i was unemployed and I have the evidence to prove it but the CSA don't care and want to collect 10k. What can i do, I've spoken to the CSA but their are not interested.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/01/2017 at 12:12 pm
Your mother can seek advice about taking the matter to court. If your father's lifestyle exceeds his HMRC declared income then the courts will investigate this. The court will look into your father's eanings, expenditure and property and investigate how he can send his other children to a fee-paying school and not pay to support you and your sister. If your mother wishes to pursue child maintenance she should seek some legal advice to see whether she may have a case.
Next Generation 09/01/2017 at 3:20 pm
Hi,
I'm the daughter of someone who has never paid for me or sister consistently. He is a self made millionaire, lives in a million pound home along with his wife and two other children. The CSA have done nothing because they can do nothing, he abuses the system and the government does nothing about it. I feel my sisters rights and my own have been taken away from us. I would like to personally challenge the government over the new system that they have put in place, which can do absolutely nothing unless you work. My deadbeat father works for himself, everything he owns he puts it into his company name. He constantly reinvests his money so that he doesn't pay his taxes properly etc. Meanwhile, my half siblings get a private education, full access to my deadbeat dad etc...How is this fair? He is supposed to pay £8 pw and has failed to do this for the past 2 yrs and my mother can do nothing!
SeparatedDads Editor 06/01/2017 at 2:48 pm
You can see how much you will be required to pay which
Brett 05/01/2017 at 7:00 pm
My ex partner is currently phoning the CSA, I will therefore pay more mmoney than our original arrangement, I have a baby due in a week so would this lower my ex girlfriends payments? Would I be better of having my newborn baby 1\2 Nights a week to lower my ex's payments?
Gaz 19/11/2016 at 12:01 am
I have 2 children. I live with 1st child and 2nd child's mother has gone through CSA as she didn't name me on birth certificate!
CSA say I should be paying £100p/w. Want to know if 1st mother claims would 2nd mothers amount go down? Bear in mind I am not seeing 2nd child at the moment and she won't allow the child to meet my partner and child
Gaz 18/11/2016 at 11:57 pm
I have 2 children born 5 days apart with different mums. I live with 1st child and 2nd child's mum has gone through CSA and works out I should pay £100 p/w
If the 1st child's mum went to CSA would the amount of money I have to pay go down??

Bear in mind I'm having no contact with 2nd child as mother won't let me and won't let my partner meet the child
SeparatedDads Editor 03/10/2016 at 1:36 pm
You would have to come to an agreement with your ex if you are paying child maintenance through a family-based arrangement. If your are paying via the CMS, then you may wish to speak with the CMS directly.
GR 02/10/2016 at 8:52 pm
I have just started having my daughter every other week & her mother has her the rest of the time.. Do I still pay my Ex the same amount of child support as I was before or do I stop all together as we now share the responsibility together & have her half each. ??
tone 07/09/2016 at 11:07 am
My eldest turns 19 next month , is it right CSA payments stop then? Even though my ex receives the money she also charges my son and daughter rent . She must have approx £1,000 a month coming in , the rent obviously being "additional" income . Should she be declaring this to HMRC
Jake71** Editor 31/08/2016 at 1:48 pm
@anonymous - as Jimbo says - not all dads are like your ex, some of us would love to see and have our kids more. Same with mothers not all of them are saints, take my ex for instance, she does all she can to stop me seeing the kids and I have never missed a child maintenance payment in 11 years. So please don't tar us all with the same brush.
jimbo 31/08/2016 at 11:01 am
Hello

this is a response to the below postin:

anonoymous - 30-Aug-16 @ 10:35 PM

I see that your upset and angry but this site is for fathers that have had a raw deal, and yes there are alot of absent fathers but there are also alot of women who completely and blatantly abuse the fact that they can use the children as bargaining tools and leverage againt fathers, some of whom HAD to leave the relationship because the woman was impossible to deal with. granted this is a smaller majority however its true. There are plenty of good men who suffer at the hands of these women and its hard for men to speak out about this because they feel ashamed and feel powerless because the law sits on the mothers side, so please lady, next time approach this subject matter with a little bit of tact and not plaster your opinion on a site for fathers who need help.

Good day to you.
anonoymous 30/08/2016 at 10:35 pm
I am a single parent and my ex husband relocated without even telling the CSA. Don't ever say that the mother sits onon her backside as she is picking up the pieces as I had to do. My ex husband owes me 949.00 pounds but keeps changing his circumstances. He has also had alot of failed relationships and only sees his two daughters whenever he feels like it which is twice a year. Us single mothers are there for our kids, where are the fathers making other women pregnant! My kids have grown up to be decent, and respectful because I have been the one raising them and taking an interest in their education while my ex husband does nothing, not even contact them.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/08/2016 at 12:03 pm
I can only suggest you complain/appeal the decision which
Tezza 29/08/2016 at 5:47 pm
Hi all, wondering if anyone could help as I'm seemingly getting the run a round from the CMS....... I earned 24k a year 2014/2015 and paid maintenance at 240/month, all was fine. However got laid off in October 2015 and signed on for benefit. Received this and only made payments to maintenance of about 20-30/month. Was unemployed until March 2016 and lucky enough to get a job..... This being 20k /year, however CMS saying I am to go back into 240/month which I am doing but finding this a bit of a struggle. They're telling me no recalculation can be done because the change in salary isn't above 25%.
I understand what they're saying, however the calculation of me paying 240/ month was 2014/2015 tax tear where I did earn 24k but in 2015/2016 tax year I'd have been lucky to have made 16k and this year I've had to take unpaid leave for 2 months due to an ill parent therefore be lucky in this tax year to make 18k.
Is there anything you think I can do?
mike support 27/08/2016 at 3:33 pm
I had made payments to the child support agency over 10 years ago and out of the blue I receive a letter from CSA stating that I still owe money.
I know I made all the payments but I can't prove to them I did because my bank only holds information for the last 7 years. All payments were done via the bank...help and advise please !
SeparatedDads Editor 25/08/2016 at 12:29 pm
I think the easiest way around it is to factor in your new child to the child maintenence calculator here.
Ash3r 24/08/2016 at 7:41 pm
Any advice as I've had ongoing issues with the child maintenance since January ! I've just had a new baby and currently pay my ex for two children 27.98 per week ( £121 per month) this is including travel variation and a step son. Does anyone know how the new baby will effect the money? It's finally been sorted after months of backwards and forward after my ex claimed I didn't have the children when I do have them a hell of a lot ! Thanks in advance
SeparatedDads Editor 24/08/2016 at 2:13 pm
If your financial situation changes by more than 25% you should let CSA/CMS know and your payments will be changed accordingly, here.
Tomy 23/08/2016 at 11:35 pm
I have just given up my job as my ex-wife and boyfriend (who has a history of violent crime) continue to seek confrontation at my place of work. I have written to them via the solicitor requesting that they stay away from the retail centre where I work. Because I find their continued presence both intimidating and stressful. I plan to have a a few month off work living on savings and support from my new partner. My question is... Will I have to continue to pay maintenance while unemployed as I left on my own accord?
My understanding is that my payments will change to zero once csa (or whatever they are called these days) complete their calculation.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/08/2016 at 2:22 pm
If you think you have been treated unfairly you can complain, please see gov.uk whichUnfortunately, if you have fallen behind in your payments the CMS/CSA will try to recover the arrears through whatever means possible, regardless of your own financial situation.
jholden 13/08/2016 at 11:58 am
Go be homeless soon due to arreas to child maintenance what should I do
SeparatedDads Editor 26/07/2016 at 12:13 pm
You should have notified the CSA if the re was any significant change in circumstances when you were in prison, You would have to contact the CSA/CMS directly in order to find out whether you will be eligible for a re-imbursement.
alf 25/07/2016 at 3:33 pm
i went to prison in 2013 till 2014 but payments still came out my account,am I due that money back?
Danny81 19/07/2016 at 7:48 pm
I have just had my review in May they are telling me the tax office didn't disclose my closed earned yearly figures in time so now they are basing my amount on the year before.....so 2 years ago and that was a year I happened to get a large bonus!

Surely this can't happen? It's not accurate I don't earn that much anymore and it's not my fault if the tax office didn't give them
Anything I even offered to provide it they said no too late ????!! This is plain wrong
Jasmin 07/07/2016 at 3:53 pm
Hi, my partner pays £200 per month to his ex for his two kids. This is deducted straight from his wages. We've just had a baby and in October I will be going back to work full time and he will drop to part time hours and stay at home with our children Monday - Thursday. He called CSA and told them this and they said they won't actually alter the payment amount until they can see two wage slips at the new amount.

Is this correct? If so this means he will be bringing home half the wages but still paying the full amount of money to his ex - which means we won't be able to pay other bills for those 2-3 months. How can this be fair? He will be working set hours and is paid hourly so we could easily work out his new earnings in advance so that they can recalculate his payments in time to take effect from his first part time wage slip. Any idea why they won't do this?

I just don't see how it's fair that we will end up with no
Money for Christmas gifts this year for our two kids because he has to pay his ex an unfair amount for two months while they sort things out. He doesn't even get chance to see the children in question and isn't on the birth certificate which means the whole thing is even more frustrating as he essentially as no rights it seems!
nate 04/07/2016 at 5:09 pm
Hi, ita 11% of your gross annual that CMS assess you on. if you pay through the service they take 20% of the assessment as a fee, your ex also loses 4%
SeparatedDads Editor 04/07/2016 at 12:53 pm
Firstly, child maintenance is based upon the percentage of the non-resident parent's earnings which is 15% for one child - you can check how much you should be paying whichBy law every non-resident parent is responsible for supporting their children's day-to-day needs. If the arrangement is a family-based one, which you obviously had previously then it is up to both parents to negotiate. However, as a rule she cannot claim back pay on a family-based agreement. If you fall back on payments, she can only claim arrears from when she first made the claim to CMS. If you think you have been unfairly treated then you can complain, please see gov.uk whichRegardless of whether your ex works or not, she would still be entitled to this amount from you.
Rick Scherzo 03/07/2016 at 1:07 pm
Hi, I've decided to speak out of my anger towards the csa. I've been dragged through hell with my ex partner, As I was subjected to a serious issue of domestic violence.
My ex got convicted of common assault.
This then lead to social services getting involved. After all said and done my ex is the one that as ended up with parental responsibility and therefore as taken me to the cleaners for £204 every month. My daughter as just recently turned one. I am an hardworking man and go out to work to earn a living. Where as my ex sits on her backside all day an gets everything paid, especially the £204 she gets off me everymonth. After contacting the csa to express my anger on the figure they quoted I am told there's nothing I can do it's what the mother say's that they listen to. It's absolutely bang out order the way this system works. Back in January of this year me and my ex came to an arrangement that I pay £125 everymonth, which she was more than happy to accept. But until recently she as got a bee in her bonnet and decided to ring the csa and tell them I've been underpaying her since January, After speaking to them again they take her side of the story and tell me I should pay her £204 everymonth. Now she's talking about ringing them and claiming for back pay since January.

Would appreciate feedback on this please.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/06/2016 at 12:33 pm
You should apply for maintenance again as your ex is responsible for helping to support your child.
debz 23/06/2016 at 4:19 pm
my ex was paying maintenance and he quit his job he waz unemployed for 2year and now hez working again about a year now and he doesn't pay nothing wat should I do?
SeparatedDads Editor 16/06/2016 at 11:25 am
Please see the Money Advice Service link here which may help you further.
weekel 15/06/2016 at 12:11 pm
Hi there. My husband pays CSA to his ex partner for their 3 children which has never caused any huge issues though its in excess of £300 a month. We are also having to pay almost £200 a month in legal fees as he is currently fighting for access to them. A large chunk of his income goes to this. I have recently found out I am expecting our first child in December and I can't stop worrying about going on maternity leave as I only get SMP which will be a huge decrease in my income which is what we use to live/pay rent etc. Is there any way we can reduce his payments due to this or would they not take a decline in income into consideration? This whole situation is making me ill so any help would be greatly received. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 15/06/2016 at 10:31 am
I think in the first instance you should see whether your husband would be actually paying more for his child than he is already, as your other four children will be taken into account, please see the CMS calculator here. Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what the child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course. However, there are certain higher education courses, such as apprenticeships, that do not count as full-time education, so it is important that you check with the CMS, as then your husband would not be eligible to continue paying. Child maintenance usually falls in line with child benefit payments and when this ceases, so does child maintenance. I hope this helps.
Twink 14/06/2016 at 9:37 am
My husband and his ex have had their own arrangement of a fortnightly payment for a few years now which has been fine, now his ex has started demanding that he pays for whatever the son wants. We paid extra money and contributed towards things. He has turned 16 and the mother still demands that we pay for whatever he decides to want or do. The last message from her basically said if we dont continue paying for things she will go through CSA as she is now not happy about the amount she receives. My husband has the only wage and pays for every thing. We have 4 other children from 2-17 I receive no more than 50 in ct and cb so literally my husbands wage pays rent ct food bills anything else needed and his maintenance payments. If the CSA get involved then they will set an amount that we couldn't possibly afford every week and keep up with everything else. Is this right that she can go through them just because we won't give in to the demands ?
SeparatedDads Editor 09/06/2016 at 12:52 pm
Your ex's bills will not affect the amount you can claim as child maintenance is based upon earnings not outgoings
scl 08/06/2016 at 8:40 pm
basicly i just wan to no i put a claim into csa i no my ex earns 1200 plus per month but he also has unpaid bills coming strreight out of his wages would this affect the amount my children recieve?
SeparatedDads Editor 31/05/2016 at 11:10 am
It's always tricky if a non-resident parent is self-employed. You will need to give the CMS all the information you have. The problem is that it can be difficult to prove a person's full earnings as when they are self-employed as a good accountant can always put expenses against earnings which can cancel out income. However, the HMRC will obtain his earnings from your ex's annual tax return.
Mumsymum 30/05/2016 at 11:58 am
My ex hated paying child maintenance. I have many texts stating he was going to claim he's unemployed and not pay. He has done now. As he's self employed. He opened another bank account and so csa can't track his money. Are my texts enough proof that he's lying?? I've told csa about the texts and all they said was it would be unfortunate if he's lying. So do I just have to accept that as long as he's self employed and earning atleast £3000 a month all I get for my son is £24 a month?
He's not an active dad either. Doesn't bother with being in he's sons life which makes it even worse tbh.
Danni 23/05/2016 at 11:08 am
My husband as 3 children by two others.He pays visa which is over 300 pound a math.I have 5 children one child which is nearly 8 moths old his our boy (my husband) when we told csa he had another child he stills pays the same amount? what I want to know is if one off his children that he pays csa for gets a job,Does he have to pay the same amount or does it go down?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/05/2016 at 2:23 pm
Your CSA is based on the average over the year, once the calculations have been taken into account. I'm sorry to hear you are experiencing emotionally turbulent times, our forum may help offer support from other dads who have been through the same or similar.
2point4 18/05/2016 at 8:58 pm
Hi. Well my separation goes in waves of emotion! .....but it's got worse since my ex found a new partner!.....I also reduced my CSA payments at the same time from £500/week to the £120 I have to pay!

Anyway, my question is if I don't get paid holiday pay (because I haven't been in the job long) can I drop my CSA payment for the week that I have my kids? or is the CSA based on the overall year, with holidays taken into account, as declared by myself via the number of nights at my house at the self calculation process?

Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 12/05/2016 at 12:33 pm
Your husband's only option would be to complain or appeal the result, This will tell you the different stages you can go through. Regardless of whether his ex left with the children or whether he saw them or not, every father is responsible to financially support their children until at least the age of 16. It is very unlikely that just one letter was sent by the CSA demanding child maintenance. If that is the case and the CSA only have ever sent out one letter, then your husband may have a case. But if the CSA can prove they sent out numerous and frequent letters and they were ignored, then your husband may be liable for the arreas.
Dee 11/05/2016 at 7:59 pm
Hi my husband received a letter last year off csa saying his ex wife had put in a claim but is back dated 8 years as she apparently made a claim 8 years ago but nothing ever came of it, we never received any letters and she even said herself that they never followed it up but last year when she rang to claim she got the local MP to write to csa and wanted csa to pay her the err ears as compensation as they did not do there job properly but when they refused she then stated that my husband should pay! We didn't even know there was a claim 8 years ago otherwise my husband would of paid it, his daughter is now 17 and has a flat of her own and we have just received another letter to pay arrears off, not only to his ex wife but to his previous ex wife that he has been divorced from for 17 years the arrears altogether amount to £17,552 the 3 girls have own kids now youngest being 23years old! My husband had the eldest daughter living with him and other 2 lived with mother but the youngest used to have 1 week with mum and 1 week with dad! Csa have stated that the claim was never closed but his claim against first ex wife was closed! He never had a penny of her for the daughter that lived with him! How is this fair? (Both wife's had affairs and took the kids) They are wanting him to write dates etc down from 17 years ago stating when youngest live with him and when oldest did! My husband is 50 year old and can not remember that far back! Is there any organisation that would help us fight this as we feel he's been penalised for them not doing their job properly in the first place!
SeparatedDads Editor 04/05/2016 at 11:49 am
Yes, if your child has a part-time job, it will not affect the amount you have to pay in child maintenance.
paul wright 03/05/2016 at 4:54 pm
I am paying csa my child is in full time education .
Do i still pay same amount if he does a part time job of 8 hours a week ?
SeparatedDads Editor 27/04/2016 at 12:33 pm
You can find out what is considered as government approved education whichOnce child benefit stops so should your child maintenance payments.
Mini 26/04/2016 at 4:25 pm
I have received a letter from csa to say that my payments will be stopped April 2016. My son has turned 18 in march. Now i have received a letter from cms saying I owe £6210.45 per year. My son is at sixth form doing a btec course which is 20 lessons over a fortnight, which i beleive is not classed as full time education. It states on child benefit website that full time is average 12 hours. My son has also stated that he is leaving in May. Is my sons mother allowed to claim for child benefit or payment from cms? Can i claim a refund from csa if i can prove that my son is not in full time education?
Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 07/04/2016 at 11:56 am
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what the child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then maintenance payments will continue until the child finishes the course.
green 06/04/2016 at 1:34 pm
My partners daughter turned 18 in 2015 ,but still at college until june 2016 does anybody know when he should finish paying maintenance.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/04/2016 at 2:08 pm
You could ask to see proof of the letter. You can also see how much you should be paying by the CMS calculator here. Or alternatively contact the CSA directly to ask for confirmation. You are entitled to pay in a family-based arrangement which is negiotable between you both and it's wise that you have paid by standing order, as this proves you have been contributing and is less likely to land you in a sticky financial situation.
MrG 03/04/2016 at 3:03 pm
Hi, after splitting with my ex I had always made regular payments, first in cash and then, when I had reason to believe that my ex had lied about certain things, by standing order. She then decided that she should have more than I was giving her and contacted the CSA for advice (which I encouraged), when in contact with the CSA they in fact informed me that I was paying too much and gave me a revised figure. I agreed to this figure but rounded it up and have paid that via a standing order directly to her ever since. Approximately 18 months ago, I then received a letter from the CSA explaining that the case that was initially opened was now officially closed as I had consistently made payments from literally the day I left the family home. On speaking with my ex over the last couple of days she is now saying that the CSA have contacted her via a letter every year to check if I have continued to make payments (although I had received a letter from the CSA stating that any incase regarding myself had been officially closed). She has also stated the the most recent letter had suggested that I should in fact be paying her over double the amount that I am currently paying. Due to my distrust of my ex I am finding this a very difficult thing to believe as I have not received any information from the CSA at all except for the one letter stating that the case was officially closed. I have always been adamant that I want to make sure I always provide for my daughter and always pay the correct amount, but over the years I have come to expect very warped versions of the truth (assuming my for financial gain on her part) from my ex and this is something I want to make absolutely clear before I go ahead and make any changes. Is anyone able to shed any light on this at all?? My daughter is 11, so still in school. The original case was opened (purely with the aim of seeking advice) in approximately 2008/9. I originally paid her every month in cash, which she confirmed was happening with the CSA and then I paid by standing order. I had since increased what I was paying on her request but this was mutually agreed.

Thank you.
tw 24/03/2016 at 4:43 am
Hi i pay my ex money each month for our daughter. He has just threatened me with the csa. So i did the calculator online which actually i will pay alot less. I have just gone onto maternity leave . Is tax credits also taken into a account? And as i have proof ive paid will i not get it back dated
SeparatedDads Editor 22/03/2016 at 2:22 pm
It depends whether this is a family-based agreement, or whether it has been assessed through the CMS. Both are subject to fluctuations and are not set in stone - please see CMS which
donna 22/03/2016 at 10:58 am
I have set up £50 a week for my both kids . We came to an agreement.can she have this re-assed or is that it
SeparatedDads Editor 14/03/2016 at 2:23 pm
You don't say whether this money is for arrears, or whether you have to pay more monay after assessment. You can complain or appeal via the link, here. The Complaints Resolution Team will look at your complaint and if you’re not satisfied with how the Complaints Resolution Team deals with your complaint you can ask the Complaints Review Team to look at it.
Anto 13/03/2016 at 8:30 pm
I have paid Csa for many years now they have decided to take a lot of money from me and I can't pay my rent council tax or for my transport for work I've been late many times so now I'm worrying il lose my job and my home because of this I can't financially support myself with this situation it has made me depressed which I'm suffering from and now on medication how can I get help with this lose my home lose my job there will never be any money.
Nady 08/03/2016 at 8:21 pm
I lost my business and going for liquidation I don't have work and I'm thinking of moving abroad to try to find better life and job .
After loosing everything. I was paying until now what shall I do from now as I don't have job and I'm moving abroad trying to get new life and job ?
Can you please help.me with what I can do ?
Thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 08/03/2016 at 12:22 pm
You may wish to contact her school or college directly to find this information out. If you have been paying through the CSA, then you could contact the CSA directly, otherwise you may be able to claim through the small claims court. However, you would need to make sure your facts were correct, as if she was registered for college, but just didn't complete the course then you would possibly not be able to claim a repayment. Child support payments usually fall in line with child benefit, so if you could find out when that stopped you may have a case.
SeparatedDads Editor 08/03/2016 at 12:10 pm
You can complain, please see gov.uk whichI can't comment directly about your situation, as it depends whether the CSA was notified about the change in circumstances etc, but complaining directly is your best option.
Mic 07/03/2016 at 2:46 pm
Until recently I was aware that my daughter, now 19, (who has chose to have no contact with me for 4 / 5 years) finished collage last year and a renewal for benefits wasn't made by my ex so my maintenance payments for her ceased Sept 2015. This month I discovered from a reliable source that my daughter didn't actually finish her last year of collage as she was never there. I clearly have been paying maintenance for a child that wasn't technically in education. How can i prove this and can I claim back my over payments?
Kind Regards.
Shax 07/03/2016 at 1:56 pm
Hi, I was paying CS for for years after splitting with my ex partner like you would expect, we never really got on but I paid and so on, anyway my son reached 19 and could pay for himself.
All the CS stopped and we moved on, well that's what I thought until today!
The CSA have contacted me chasing £2725 owed to the state, how can I owe the state if I paid my ex partner in the first place? Do you pay your partner and the state? Apparently she was in receipt of benefits for a short while so I have to pay it back!!
How can I have to pay her and the CSA?
I have tried to speak to them but I don't think I have ever come across a government agency so un organised, and don't get started how rude both ladies I spoke to were.
I have had my hrs at work cut to a pathetic 16 a week and I'm struggling big time and this debt will finish me off.
Please help!!
SeparatedDads Editor 07/03/2016 at 11:14 am
I'm afraid that regardless of whether you see your children or not the government deems you responsible for paying towards the day-to-day needs of your children. Likewise, as a father you are also entitled to see your children, and where contact is in the best interests of your children, the courts will also do it all it can in order to help that process, should you apply for a contact order.
Shaun 04/03/2016 at 1:47 pm
I pay Csa regularly and when it comes to Christmas and birthdays I also buy presents. My question is do I still have to pay ren though for many years my ex has not let me see my children? I understand the concept of me maintaining them, but I can't see how this is fair when I'm refused contact
SeparatedDads Editor 03/03/2016 at 2:35 pm
You can see how much she should be paying here . I hope this helps.
Paddy 02/03/2016 at 9:30 pm
I'm a single father who my now 16 yr old son has lived with me for the past 4 yrs . I have over the past 1 received £50 per month for the upkeep of our child from his mother , she has without telling me reduced that payment to £36 per month , she works full time as a teaching assistant and minimum wage will soon be £7.30 surely my son is entitled to more than this feeble excuse of a payment ? Help a frustrated father ?
Kd 26/02/2016 at 1:24 pm
If I have had an agreement put in place for nearly a year now but receiving parent changes their mind are they alowed to make a claim through csa or can I provide proof that we have had this agreement.
SeparatedDads Editor 24/02/2016 at 2:33 pm
The payments are assessed on your income and aim to take into account your sole responsibility for the day-to-day needs of your child, regardless of your ex's earnings.
Benji 23/02/2016 at 6:26 pm
After splitting with my girlfreind who I have a child with I started paying her weekly of £45. But I'm now finding out she claims almost £600 a month benefits plus she earns £18,000 a year. My ex is quite slot better financially even though I earn £25,000 a year. Why does it go off what I earn but does not take into concideration what she earns.
SeparatedDads Editor 22/02/2016 at 12:47 pm
Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when they are legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what your child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your maintenance payments will continue until your child finishes the course. Legally, you do not have to pay once she goes to university. However, if your ex disagrees, she would have the option to request payments continue by applying through the courts.
Rick 21/02/2016 at 3:22 pm
I have been paying csa payments for 4 yrs now my 2 children but i have recently learned that my eldest who is 19 nearly 20 (with proof as well) she is in employment as well as at university doing an art degree should i still be paying my exwife money for her ? As i believe this surley cant be right ?? Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 08/02/2016 at 11:57 am
I can only sugegst your partner gathers the evidence together from bank statements from this time and complains or appeals the verdict. He can appeal whichI hope this helps.
arcie 07/02/2016 at 4:51 pm
My partner has 3 kids with his ex wife. He was self employed for few weeks but wasn't successful. He joined help exchange programme and volunteered in frace for a year. Csa's employed dept states he has no arrears but Csa self employed dept states he owes £11,000.00. Self employed dept assumed and estimated pay wage according to his previous paid job. It was his parent who supported him financially as he has no means of paying his living expenses. Csa won't accept his evidence and has said that his ex wife has the last say whether the £11,000 can be waived. Ex wife knows he was unemployed/unsuccessful self employed and that he was in France without means to contribute child maintenance. This is causing so much stress. Your advice is highly appreciated.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/02/2016 at 12:02 pm
I am afraid you would have to speak directly to the CSA/CMS regarding this as we do not have the powers to assess this information.
father 03/02/2016 at 3:15 pm
Will the maintenance payments be adjusted if I am paying all the mortgage up until my child reaches the age of 18. I have moved out of the family home.
struggling dad 30/01/2016 at 8:43 am
Our Response:
You can see more via the gov.uk link here which will tell you all you need to know. I hope this helps answer your question.SeparatedDads - 29-Jan-16 @ 10:58 AM

I've looked on the gov.uk site before. It DOESN'T tell you everything you need to know like my question about a pay increase, yet YOU published the article. So where did you find the information about a £10 pay increase if they don't want you to find these things out?
SeparatedDads Editor 29/01/2016 at 10:58 am
You can see more via the gov.uk link here which will tell you all you need to know. I hope this helps answer your question.
struggling dad 28/01/2016 at 4:10 pm
Hi Separated Dads.
Can I ask about the above published article?
I'm on the 2003 scheme and have been paying CSA for my two girls for years now. I've had pay increases of less than £10 per week over the years. I've always informed the CSA about them and they have increased my payments accordingly. So my question is, when you state, "Where the new circumstances mean the amount of support will alter by £10 a week or more, then they’ll also re-open the case", Iis this definitely the case? Otherwise they've been conning me for years! Is it + or - up to £10 of Nett pay only, and can they touch my new workforce pension that's just coming into force?
I look forward to your advice.
Thanks in advance.
SeparatedDads Editor 28/01/2016 at 2:38 pm
I can only suggest that if your ex has been in breach of the contact order, and you cannot afford the legal fees, then you can self-litigate, see link: Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, here. Plus, if you feel you have been dealt with unfairly regarding child maintenance, then you can complain, I hope this helps.
Borny 28/01/2016 at 8:36 am
I have two children to my ex partner who has been unreasonable over access I took her to family county court was awarded access then refused me three times which I appealed and was granted access again
Since then I've had Csa on my back I didn't pay because I didn't have the means to pay it
I was given a liable action and I agreed to pay it was 140 to 185 a month
I paid 14 payments and I asked Csa to set up a direct payment plan which they did
The mother took the money but refused to accept and now I will lose £250 for ex amount of months
I'm on a low wage struggling to pay my bills an debts an cost of having my children
The mother has moved twice without informing of her new address
Went to Disney world with the kids
And bought their passports
Without my knowledge
I've taken her to mediation which she refused to attend now I've taken her to court again
I've mad out to be a criminal because I don't have the means to pay a quarter of my wage to Csa
And there charges
I feel that it's not about children is about making money out of me
Threats of stealing my home my licence prison
When the mother claims benefits housing working tax family an child support
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Mark 22/01/2016 at 10:20 pm
For the first 3 months after we separated I use to have my kids 2 weekends a month. Then I was told they didn't want to see me anymore. I've asked why and tried to contact them with no luck. I would love to have my kids 2 weekends a month but I can't force a 15 and 16 year old.Obviously there is always 2 sides to every story but it's there choice.My view is if this is not my choice where do I stand on payments would I still have to pay the full amount?
Mark 22/01/2016 at 10:01 pm
Hi I've been paying maintenance into my ex wife's bank account for the past 12 months since we seperated. I haven't seen my kids for 9 months. This is through no choice of mine they are 15 and 16. My wife cheated and we separated. I want her to go to the CMS but have stopped paying as no legal agreement has been made. If it took 3 months for instance for her to go to the CMS would I have to pay back pay? Also if not seeing the kids through no choice of mine would I still have to pay the full amount because apparently it's the kids choice that they don't want to see me?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/01/2016 at 12:01 pm
If the father is assessed to be not eligible to pay for a period of time (i.e if he is not working) then he will not have to pay back pay. Back pay is only accrued if the person is deemed eligible to pay and avoids paying.
Cheatby 18/01/2016 at 2:48 pm
Does a father have to pay back pay for the time he hadn't paid when he goes back to work
Daveo 15/01/2016 at 8:24 pm
Forgot to mention I also am remarried and have 3 kids living with me to support
Daveo 15/01/2016 at 8:21 pm
I was wanting some advice the csa took me to court 7 years ago to provide proof of my self employed earnings which I obliged to when they looked at my earnings they said I would have my case suspended on nil assessment and they would go of my working tax credit award each year to see if liable as on low income also I gave up work for 7 months with no income as my wife was working couldn't claim benefit and then went back to work 2 days a week and they now saying I owe 10000 in backdated money how can they work this out when last year earned 2615 and off that they want 2100 they have not contacted me in 7 years
SeparatedDads Editor 07/01/2016 at 12:48 pm
You could apply through either mediation or the courts for a variation of the order. The court will consider this due to your change in circumstances and re-assess your payments accordingly.
Dadof2 06/01/2016 at 6:46 pm
Hi I was living in America, when my divorce went through and my wife was awarded an unreasonable amount of child support not correctly based in my income in court 1600.00, I can explain if needed, now live in the uk and my job is a much lower income, however she remains unreasonable and still wants the old amount as it was a court order. I simply cannot afford this as I am left with less than £40.00 to buy food and pay bills, petrol, work clothes/tools etc each month and really struggling. My new partner also has 2 children, I want to pay a reasonable amount for mine, but also feel that I should contribute something at least to my new household. We love each other but the new relationship is strained to say the least. Would be grateful for any advice, as I am desperate.
SeparatedDads Editor 06/01/2016 at 2:06 pm
He should only be paying for the elder two children if they are in full-time government approved education. He certainly should not be paying child support to a child who is earning a wage from the army. Every parent has the basic responsibility to provide for their child up until the age of 16, when the child is legally allowed to leave school and get a job. After this age, it depends what the child chooses to do. If they continue in full-time non-advanced education, not higher than A-level equivalent, for at least 12 hours a week, then your husband's maintenance payments would continue until the child finishes or until they turn 20. If he is still paying for his children and shouldn't be and his arrangement is through the CSA, then he may be able to claim to have the money returned.
Betty 05/01/2016 at 8:51 pm
I find it hard my husband works has 3 kids from a ex one 19 one 18 and in the army and one coming in to 16 and he now has to give up work as we can't live with him paying csa are rent is 700 without the other bills c/tax rent etc any help would be good
SeparatedDads Editor 05/01/2016 at 12:35 pm
Yes, you can approach the CMS if you wish to pay and your ex can accept or refuse payment. However, please keep in mind that if you do pay, then this does not guarantee you access to your children. Access and child support are two different areas and a father may pay child support for years and still not be allowed to see his children. However, if you wish to apply for access, then you can also do so without paying child support. You would need to apply through the courts with a c100 form which is an application for a Child Arrangement Order and include a C4 form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. The courts will put a trace on your children which will allow you to apply for access. Child support could then be arranged through the courts at the same time. I hope this helps.
P.b 04/01/2016 at 11:09 pm
My ex hasn't let me see my kids for a good few years now, she's never put in a claim for CSA/CMS I believe this is because she doesn't want me to see them I how ever want to pay for my children can she refuse payments? Also I don't know where she lives as she won't have or let me have any contact with her or children what are my steps please
SeparatedDads Editor 18/12/2015 at 10:32 am
I suggest you appeal this via whichHopefully they will be able to resolve this for you quickly if you have not been earning throughout this time.
Mark 17/12/2015 at 12:27 pm
I have never been ordered to pay maintenance on the d CSA scheme. I have bend a house husband for the past 15 years and not had any income.
In September I received a letter from the new scheme and after they saw I was a house husband with nil income I was told I had nil maintenance to pay. Then a week after this I get aetter to say I owe £9968 in arrears on the old CSA scheme,.
I phoned and asked how they came to this figure to be told she didn't know.
Please explain? I've earned nothing in 15 years and I have never been told to pay anything.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/12/2015 at 12:06 pm
If you have a statutory child maintenance arrangement and are unable to use Direct Pay/Maintenance Direct then the statutory child maintenance service will collect payments from the paying parent, and pass them on to the receiving parent. This is called "Collect and Pay" in the Child Maintenance Service or "the calculation and collection service" in the Child Support Agency. There are collection fees for parents using Collect & Pay through the Child Maintenance Service. Please see CMS page link, here.
soph 15/12/2015 at 4:15 pm
My ex is ment to be paying me month starting from the 1st of january but im worried about if she dosnt pay me , i am through the csa but how will the csa get it if he doesn't pay me
SeparatedDads Editor 14/12/2015 at 11:45 am
It is up to the mother whether she wants to register your name on the birth certificate. However, you can apply through the courts for Parental Responsibility, I hope this helps.
Lewis 11/12/2015 at 10:35 pm
I have a 20 week old daughter but the mother off my daughter. We are separated but my name not on the birth certificate what can I do about it to get my name on my daughter birth certificate
Johnnyone 28/11/2015 at 5:21 pm
Hi . Csa started taking a lot of money out of my salary. I now have 400 to buy food and pay for Christmas for two kids and my wife who all live with me . I've tried to come to an agreement with my daughters mother but she laughed it off . I will need to quit my job this week and go on benefits. My wife is minding our 3 year old and her 16 year old . My daughters mother is loaded I can't afford shoes for the kids or nappies till Monday . What can I do to contest the large mount . Why do they not take into my bills before stealing from my wages . I want to pay towards my daughter but not so I'm starving my whole family . I never see her and now I can't even afford to drive over to her . Any advice would be grateful
SeparatedDads Editor 24/11/2015 at 12:45 pm
You should contact the CSA if there has been a change in your earnings and they may be able to adjust your payments accordingly, as child maintenance is based on your earnings. Money that an individual receives that are not classed as ‘earnings’ include: statutory payments made by an employer for reasons of maternity, paternity, redundancy or adoption pay; tax credits; social security pension, benefit or allowance, any payments made under a disability pension or benefit; or a guarantee payment under social security pensions legislation. If you receive any of these kinds of payments and they are your sole income, your employer cannot use this payment to deduct child support from your earnings. Employers can however deduct money from the following types of earnings: private pensions, occupational pensions; wages; overtime pay; bonuses; commission; or any payments that are made on top of a person’s wages. In addition, it is possible to deduct from an individual’s statutory sick pay. If your employer pays you ‘contractual’ maternity, paternity, redundancy or adoption pay, this is classed as ‘earnings’ and can be subjected to deductions for child maintenance. I hope this helps.
gaz 23/11/2015 at 7:06 pm
Will the CSA still take £65 out of my wages every week, even tho im only receiving saturay sick pay after being declared not fit to work? Obviously won't be able to afford it, what should I do?
gentle giant 20/11/2015 at 9:12 pm
I have a child with downs syndrome that is leaving special school next year and hopefully doing a course at college.if she cant cope with this will I still have csa money to pay?
gentle giant 20/11/2015 at 9:07 pm
I have a child with downs syndrome who is leaving special school to hopefully start a course at college next year.if she cant cope with this will I still have to pay csa money?.thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 17/11/2015 at 12:00 pm
Child maintenance is not counted as income for means-tested benefits, you can see more whichI hope this helps.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/11/2015 at 10:15 am
The money your partner pays is based solely on his earnings. However, the fact you have a child should be taken into account. You can see exactly how much your partner should be paying via the Child Maintenance Calculator here. Or if you feel unhappy with the service you have received, you can complain via whichThere is another leaflet: What to do if you’re unhappy with the Child Maintenance Service which should also help answer your question.
Confused 16/11/2015 at 5:50 pm
Hi there,

I have heard so many different answers to this question and now I am wondering if anyone can help me...

I am on income support and I was told once I receive financial help from my ex i will see by benefits cut.
This doesn't make any sense to me but I just need to know if this information is accurate or not.

Many thanks,
Family 16/11/2015 at 12:00 pm
Hi my partner paying his ex £53 a week for his son. Every time he rings child mantaince he get someone different and say something different. He on low income and we have a baby boy and we have no help with him I.e tax credits. Both our earning got pay morgage, child care etc. We ask if they take our son in account but one min said yes then no,
£53 aweek is so much. Plus she lives with her partner with her two children and his. Does she have to declare she getting money from csa? .
She not working but she told someone that she get money for her children and his and he works full
Time.
Soo confused. Struggling with money.
Sara 07/11/2015 at 8:46 pm
Hi I'm Sara I've been with my partner for over 2 years, I was just wondering if anyone could help me as I have 2 children what he had took on as his own we both work full time and have to pay everything in full don't get no help and he pays csa straight out of his wages which isn't a problem but he is not aloud to see his children because of his previous partners because they don't like him with anyone else he has 4 children and pays nearly half his wages but no one will take this into consideration and we're constantly struggling every month it's stupid especially as he's not aloud to see his children because of them hasn't for the last 3 years we've been to the solicitors and it's going to cost us 5,000 per child to go to court and we work most hours to just pay for our bills!! Don't see a way around or out of this it's stressful to live with would love any help or advise what would be of use to us. Thanks Sara
SeparatedDads Editor 30/10/2015 at 11:38 am
Hopefully, if it is going to court then the court will be able to assess your ex's earnings. I'm afraid this is a difficult question to answer as the CSA is powerless if against a good accountant who may be able to make your ex look like she is not earning very much at all. Have you asked your ex whether you can have a quid-pro-quo agreement? Given that you are co-sharing the parenting of your children.
SeparatedDads Editor 30/10/2015 at 10:42 am
You can come to a family-based agreement. This is encouraged through the CMS, I hope this helps.
Bubble87 29/10/2015 at 10:21 am
Me and my partner are together but due to a few issues we do not live together. I am in long term esa and he is sorting his esa out due to health issues. How does he stand with paying maintenance? He would like to be able to buy her the items she needs instead of having to go through third party to pay me. Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 21/10/2015 at 12:33 pm
I'm afraid it could go either way. If you have not told the CSA about specific job changes and salary increases, then you could be liable for arrears if your salary rose in that time. Please see leaflet, here which you may already be aware of. Likewise, if your ex declined to inform you your child had not left education then she may be liable to owe you. If you find you are liable to pay arrears, the CSA or CMS may negotiate a repayment schedule with you. Please see CAB link herewhich also tells you when the CSA may write off arrears. I'm afraid it's just a case of waiting to see what conclusion they come to. However, if you think that conclusion is unfair, you can always appeal.
Worried 20/10/2015 at 1:53 pm
Is there anybody helping on this website. Still have my question outstanding and not sure edgy to expect. It's been coming up for 3 weeks since the Csa told me the case was closed. It's making me very nervous and I'm worrying so much
Nathan 16/10/2015 at 9:32 pm
Me and my ex partner split up in March 2014. Which wasn't long after my daughter was born. Since our split, my ex has moved address (dont know where) and changed her phone number. I also have been denied access in every form to my daughter and as you could imagine, this is a very upsetting and stressful situation. I am only 21 and have never had to go through a situation like this before. I dont know what to do, who to turn to and I feel like I have tried everything. What can I do? Please help me
MissWain 15/10/2015 at 7:10 pm
My ex has failed to tell the cms of his new employment and is on a deduction of earning order the HMRC haven't updated their database with his new employment even though he changed jobs 3 months ago which means I am no longer receiving any payments the child maintenance service says there's nothing they can do until HMRC updates is there any way I can contact the HMRC to hurry things along as it only usually takes 30 days for the update 3 months is rather a long time as as I see it it's the HMRC that are the only agency that are preventing me receiving the payments with their delays
Worried 09/10/2015 at 10:36 am
I have been paying CSA several years for my son. I asked for the CSA to check if he was still in education and it appears he hasn't been since August 2014 so potentially i'm owed money

I have been reading a lot about the CSA around this and I hand on heart didn't realise I was suppose to tell them when I had pay rises at work and also changed jobs (several of both since the case opened)

Now the case is closed it is with a specialist team apparently working out how much I am owed - i'm guessing they will see my earnings somewhere and actually work out I owe money? Im really worried im now going to owe a shed load of money or because the case is closed will this not be the case?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/10/2015 at 11:55 am
I'm afraid regardless of what the mother's circumstances and what she earns, the government see that it is a duty for a father to pay to support his child. Many arrangements are family-based and take into account the balance of each others' standard of living, because it is agreed between the parents. However, once it goes to court or via an agency, the amount the father pays is based solely on the amount he earns.
Sue 05/10/2015 at 2:25 pm
How does Csa work when the mother earns more than the father twice more and still gets money to spend on handbags and holidays, leaves his son with a nanny, has exceptional problems. Father has no access and not allowed. Where did this world turn out to be so unfair, and finically crippling a father to provide for his new family.
SeparatedDads Editor 17/09/2015 at 12:25 pm
Your maintenance payments will not change because of your ex's circumstances (providing for your son is attributed solely to your income). However, due to the fact you have another child to take care of financially, then the CSA would take this into account and reduce your maintenance payments accordingly. If you wish to see how much you should be paying, you can do so via the CMS Options calculator here. I hope this helps.
Al 16/09/2015 at 12:29 pm
Hi there. Just a quick question regarding my circumstances. I have a 14 year old son who stays with his mum. We split when he was 3 and I have paid child maintanence since but not through the CSA, just an arrangement between us. My son stays with me for at least 2 nights a week, and then holidays etc. However, few years ago my ex married her partner and now has 2 other children with him. I have also married and have a girl who is 16 months. Do you think my maintanence payments would change because she is now a married women?

Thanks.
SeparatedDads Editor 04/09/2015 at 2:05 pm
I'm afraid it is very difficult to prove when a person is self-employed as if they employ a good enough accountant, any significant earnings can be adeptly concealed. Therefore, it makes it very difficult to disprove unless you can prove otherwise by asking the CSA to review his P60.
AD 03/09/2015 at 5:09 pm
HI ALL WONDER IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADVICE . MYSELF AND MY WIFE HAVE 4 CHILDREN NON WITH EACH OTHER . SHE HAS 3 CHILDREN WITH HER EX HUSBAND AND I HAVE 1 WITH MY EX PARTNER . HE IS A COURIER DRIVER AND HAS RECENTLY APPEALED THE CHILD MAINTENANCE THAT WAS SET UP. HE STOPPED PAYING DUE TO THE COMPANY THAT HE WORKED FOR AS A COURIER WENT INTO LIQUIDATION . HE FOUND ANOTHER JOB AFTER 1 WEEK AND HAS WORKED THERE SINCE . HE NOTIFIED THE CSA AND WAS RE ASSESSED AND HASNT PAID SINCE . WE HAVE CHASED THE CSA SEVERAL TIMES REGARDING PAYMENT AND THEY HAVE JUST SAID THAT THEY ARE WAITING FOR ACCOUNTS . WELL HE FILLED IN THE FORM THAT WAS SENT TO THE CSA SAYING THAT HE WAS EARNING £3000 PER MONTH AND THEY CALCULATED IT ON THAT BASIS . HE APPEALED AND HAS GOT HIS FARTHER INLAW TO FALSIFY HIS ACCOUNTS AND SAYS THAT HE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR HIM SINCE JANUARY AND IS NOW ONLY EARNING £120 PER WEEK . THE CSA HAVE ACCEPTED THIS AND HE IS NOW ONLY HAVING TO PAY £20 PER WEEK FOR 3 CHILDREN AND THEY SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO AT ALL . HOW CAN THE CSA TAKE SUCH RIDICULOUS FIGURES SERIOUSLY . PLEASE HELP WITH ADVICE
SeparatedDads Editor 27/08/2015 at 2:48 pm
If you are unhappy with the way you have been treated by the CSA you can complain via whichI hope this helps.
Steve 26/08/2015 at 10:36 pm
I have had my daughter living with me for 5 months now I used to pay child maintance off her and my son.
I'm claiming off my dsughter now under the new child maintance services bug has yet to make contact with my ex saying she will not answer her phone yet they have her work address number home address and number ?
So 5 months on I'm still paying for my son and daughter my ex is reviewing money for both and I have nothing left to help my daughter living with me because ghetto new agency is failing and I will not get backdated payments because they continue to call her and it seems all she has to do is not answer gnd phone she's laughing and I'm left bewilders and no wear to go just because I'm gnd father with child and nothing gets done ??
Yet when she claimed years back it was sorted in two weeks and £200 + taken out of my wages
They have my wife's works number why are they failing me
auntieD 25/08/2015 at 10:40 pm
My sister is in the process of splitting up with her ex, he is self employed and owns properties but has told my sister that she not getting a penny off him because he wants the child at weekends but he has a child to a different women and pays her a set amount each week but he says this is because he doesn't see the child regularly that is this right
SeparatedDads Editor 21/08/2015 at 12:17 pm
If you have made a family-based arrangement and it has been a mutual agreement and you can prove you have been paying into her account, then you shouldn't have a problem. Your wife can't claim back pay retrospectively if she has never previously made an official claim through the CSA/CMS. Please see the CMS take on setting up a family-based arrangement here. If you want to re-assess your arrangement with your wife, perhaps you can do it in writing in the future, so that both of you know where you stand. You can also find out via its online calculator just how much you should be paying, I hope this helps. .
phill 20/08/2015 at 12:07 pm
I have been seperated from my sons mum for 8 years in which I have met her demand for a monthly direct debit to her account for child support but now she is going back with threats that she wants back pay and I should have payed more. This was a mutual agreement and now im scared that if she does go to CSA that im going to get lumbered with a big bill! Can this happen and what do I do about it? Should I contact CSA myself and try to pay through them from now on and is this possible?
PH 15/08/2015 at 11:12 am
Hi, I've been separated from my ex for 15 years. We mutually agreed a monthly payment without any involvement from the CSA. During this time I've not missed a payment despite being out of work for the best part of three years.

Today I received a letter from the CSA stating a new maintenance agreement is needed from February 2016 (a month before my son turns 18). I've no reason to believe I should be receiving any correspondence from the CSA as I've always paid my dues and they were never involved in the first place.

The letter states I can contact them but I feel I will be treated unfairly. Has anyone else experienced this and should I contact them to see what's what?
Jasy73 08/08/2015 at 1:28 pm
After hearing nothing for 2 years after a job change (I didnt realise I had to give that information as Csa had my details I thought I would have eventually heard something as I'd no contact with my ex I thought her circumstances had changed and I was no longer required to make direct payments to her) I was told I owed 4,000 in arrears and my payment was £43 a week I proceeded to set up a standing order directly to my ex for £60 with £17 coming off arrears each week I let this run until the arrears were cleared them dropped it back to £43 now my case is with cms they r sending me letters saying I still owe the 4000 , the Csa were informed of the arrangement and were happy at that time , I have confirmation from the bank of dates standing order was set up and all additional info. i can't get speaking to the cms til after the weekend but I already explained this all to a cms worker about a month ago, confused why they still say I owe the arrears , does tid mean my ex hasn't informed them of the payments she has received
SeparatedDads Editor 30/07/2015 at 2:50 pm
@P45 - I think you would really have to get some legal advice given that it is a more complex matter and that your redundancy has been classed as an income and taken into account. The CAB may be able to help with advice also. If you need to take it to court, you also can self-litigate if you find to too costly, see Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself, whichI hope this helps.
P45 28/07/2015 at 6:30 pm
Dear All,
Can you please help me..I separated from my partner (not wife), four years ago. We have a daughter. I was lucky enough to be in a well paid job. The CSA calculated my payments at the maximum, and then my ex applied for a 'top-up' which we went to court over and ultimately settled on. One year ago nearly I lost my job, I have maintained my payments at this level throughout the year because my redundancy payment qualified as a net income salary etc. However now after a year with no work I can't maintain this level. My ex still wants me to pay at the original level, but as a lump sum which she says she will make last. I have tried to offer am amount - but she maintains I should give her this lump sum. She does not work, and maintains that after four years she now needs this lump sum to enable her to sort herself out. We don't want lawyers as it'll cost, but now she wants to see my bank statements and where the redundancy has gone etc. What are my rights - i can't believe I have to pay at the levels of a plus £115k net take-home when i don't earn a penny. I only want to do what's right, but feel my ex will rather I was left bankrupt, homeless and unable to do anything as long as she maintains her lifestyle without having to work!
na 05/07/2015 at 7:20 am
All the so called supportive forums for dads are a load of rubbish..even they support the mother..by the way she earns more than you claims benefits.nice life style keeps the house and sells joint owned items..
she uses allegations of abuse, court orders.and after all that could say you heve hit her and get arrested..what have in reality done..nothing marrage never worked so eirher of you move on.
And what support do you get..naff all.like all the dads net forums..you lot are a joke...
Ed Editor 06/07/2015 at 2:20 pm
@Minnie - you don't have any recourse if it was a private arrangement between yourselves.
Minnie 04/07/2015 at 5:37 am
I separated from my husband 9 months ago, during this time we had agreed to arrange child maintenance for our son between ourselves without getting CSA or Child Maintenance services involved. I have made payments totalling £4180 in 9 months. (my son of 16yrs wanted to stay with his father)
Out of the blue today I received a letter off CMS advising me that my ex has contacted them to arrange payments from me and that based on my income (from info obtained from my ex and HMRC) that my annual payments should be on average £3500. This over 12 months is £680 less than I've just paid for 9 months.
My question is, despite the letter stating these payments will be effective from end of July 2015, can I claim any of my overpayment back from the previous 9 months even though it wasn't through CMS and was a private agreement between myself and my ex?
SeparatedDads Editor 15/06/2015 at 2:40 pm
@dorka - it is probably better that you contact the CSA directly over this in order to explain your position clearly and to get some advice of the best route forward.
dorka 12/06/2015 at 11:01 pm
Hi my ex put my on csa its same money what I was pay before but no she taking her time to send details to csa like 3-4 weeks she not send them details or pickup phone really I don't know what to do I don't ever address how I need pay money .
SeparatedDads Editor 09/06/2015 at 10:54 am
@Bmcap - the gov.uk site; 'how child maintenance is worked out', here which should help clarify things for you. I hope this helps.
Bmacp 06/06/2015 at 2:16 pm
If your ex paartner is not workin should they receive c.s.a ?
DadSi 03/06/2015 at 11:48 pm
My wife and I have been separated for over a year now and have 3 1/2 year old boy. With my work I am in the position and do to look after him 50/50 as we agreed and also as a teacher i have my son 5 days out of 7 during school breaks and holidays. As i was left no choice by my wife who ended our marriage by her adultery, I was faced with finding alternative accommodation and she decided to stay in the rented property. I financially provide for my son with clothing, shoes, food, savings and take on and spend out on all parental responsibilities. We agreed for my wife to claim child tax credits instead of paying maintenance due to having equal parental responsibilities over care of our child.
She is now however telling me that I have to pay support as she is (as always have been since the separation) on full housing benefits and they are cutting her amount. Even though she has a job but opted not to take on more work that is available to her when she does not have our son. As the arrangement stands I pay out for my son, have equal or even more child care responsibilities over certain periods, pick up and drop off my son (even when its her time to see the child), do not claim child benefit or any benefits. I am just looking for advice as i feel this may be unfair and have a job that does allow me to earn enough and also provide personal care for the child if it were to come down to that.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/05/2015 at 10:58 am
@Webbz - for whatever reason if your ex would prefer that the payments went through the CMS rather than continuing through a family-based arrangements (regardless of whether you have never missed a payment), she is entitled to, I'm afraid.
Webbz 23/05/2015 at 10:48 am
Hi,
For the last year and 3 months I have been paying my ex partner a set amount of money for my son. I have never missed a payment and this amount we both agreed on.
I received a letter yesterday from the cms, stating that I now should pay these higher amount each month. My ex never contacted regarding this and is now saying just deal with it. If I have never missed a payment can this be done without my knowledge
jay 21/05/2015 at 3:03 pm
If I'm claiming personal independent payment do I have to pay csa for my children.
SeparatedDads Editor 19/05/2015 at 2:26 pm
@mark - I'm afraid CSA payments and contact are not related, meaning you still have to pay to support your child whether you see her or not. However, you can, if you have parental responsibility, apply for contact through the courts. First of all you should fill in the form C4, which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts, you can do this at the same time as you apply for a contact order. If you have parental responsibility, your ex should never have moved away without your consent, or decide that she wanted a 'family unit', as you have every right to see your child.
mark 16/05/2015 at 12:02 am
Hi, im hoping someone may be able to share some knowledge upon my situation;
I was stopped seeing my child, 2 years ago now or more by her mother. She was with new partner and decided that she wanted a family unit. Anyway to cut a long story short, I heard she had moved house but where she moved to i do not know? changed her phone number and online accounts. I have no idea where exactly they are in order to try and find my little one.
Does anyone happen to know, if in this situation should i be still paying reasonably high csa payments, or if i should be paying it at all whilst not able to find or contact my little one?
Thank you..
Roz Editor 15/05/2015 at 2:03 pm
@exhater - it depends how much he is earning, if he is just starting out then it is likely that costs will outweigh any profits. However, he will have to declare it to HMRC in which case he will be liable for tax, when he does this then the CSA will have to be informed.
exhater 13/05/2015 at 11:44 pm
Could someone please help me? My ex husband pays csa cause he works full time but he recently set up a business making and selling items. Should he declare this has other income to the csa?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/05/2015 at 2:56 pm
@Jon - it depends if you are living with the mother of your child. If you are living apart then you would need to pay to support your child, but it could be a family-based arrangement. If you are living with the mother, then you would contribute to the family as a father generally would.
Jon 08/05/2015 at 1:40 pm
Do I still have to pay csa if Im still in a relationship with the mother of my child
SeparatedDads Editor 06/05/2015 at 12:52 pm
@Clm - I'm afraid I can't really answer this, as much is dependent upon his cirumstances, however, the CSA should be able to tell you directly.
Clm 05/05/2015 at 7:53 pm
I need a bit of advice, unlike the other posts on here I am a Mum that currently pays Csa. My son is 17 and due to mental health issues has had to take 1yr out of College due to this and is working voluntarily. I have no contact with either my son or ex. Am I still to continue paying ? No-one seems to know the answer. Help/Advice much needed.
SeparatedDads Editor 16/04/2015 at 10:45 am
@jimbob - the CSA cannot to retrospective claims. If your ex had put in a claim to the CSA years ago and you had never paid, then you could be liable for arrears. If the news has just come to light and she is only going to the CSA/CMS now, then you will not be liable to pay any arrears. However, if your daughter is still only 17 and in full-time education, if your ex puts in a claim now, then you may be asked to pay to support her until she finishes her education up to A'Levels. I hope this helps.
jimbob 15/04/2015 at 10:25 pm
Hi can someone help.. my ex approached me last year and said i had a kid.. i done the dna and she is mine.. shes 17 now.. will i have 2 pay back payments to the csa fae she was born? Shes not at school or college or interested in working.. her mum wants 145 per week off me or she said she goin to the csa.. any one know my rights??
SeparatedDads Editor 16/04/2015 at 10:58 am
@Lee - you may be able to find the information in the; 'child maintenance payments reassessment: leaflet', here. I hope this helps.
Lee 15/04/2015 at 8:43 pm
I seem to remember reading somewhere that if my csa payments are recalculated, they can only be changed if the increase ismire than a ccertain percentage. Is this correct?
DB Editor 07/04/2015 at 12:05 pm
@neil - if she is in full-time college (minimum of 12 hours attendance) then there are only so many hours she can physically work outside of that if you take into account study time too. I've not heard of any limit.
neil 03/04/2015 at 4:04 pm
Could anyone offer me any advice.
I pay my csa money every month for my 2 children. My daughter is in full education (college) my question is how many hours a week can my daughter work. The csa informed me she can work as much as she want, I thought there was a limit of 23 hours could anyone advise me accordingly.
SeparatedDads Editor 02/04/2015 at 10:21 am
@TourneyPro - I am sorry to hear this. At least you have all your bank statements to prove your payments, especially as she hasn't been declaring hers. If you are unhappy with the service you have received then you can appeal or complain via whichI hope this helps.
TourneyPro 31/03/2015 at 9:00 am
Hi all, I hope someone could maybe help me also. In Feb 2009 my partner and I split up and I moved out leaving my 2 children with the mother. It was an amicable break up and I'd agreed to pay her directly each month. All was well and good until one payment was 1 day late due to a bank holiday and all hell broke loose. Since 2010 I haven't seen my children even though every month I was travelling the 600 mile round trip to see them only to be told they aren't there (they were staring out the window at me). Anyway, the CSA have since been sending me letters stating I'm in arrears for this period of which I was paying her direct into her bank account from mine but she never declared it to the CSA. I have letters dating back from the start up to the present and I have copies of bank statements and even wage slips where I've asked for a DOE to be set up but I was shocked to be told that one company I worked at wasn't showing on their system and was even asked if I was sure if worked there. I have a copy of the DOE letter which was sent to the company and also wage slips to back this up. My problem is that ive sent them copies once already which have been mislaid but I am getting shafted every week for normal payments (which I don't mind) but also an amount for the "arrears" ive already paid. I am left every week with £130 a £150 a week which goes straight into the house. I get paid every fortnight so I have nothing spare at all. I've had to get rid of my car etc, I can't even afford bus fare into town. I have sought legal advice and as I write this I am surrounded with all my paperwork, a written out letter by myself and a massive headache. I know I've overpaid my ex by quite a lot but can I get that money back because in reality isn't it theft? Can anything happen to her for not declaring it? Thanks in advance guys
SeparatedDads Editor 01/04/2015 at 12:07 pm
@Mjo - he can appeal via whichI hope this helps.
Mjo 30/03/2015 at 1:55 pm
My partner was contacted in Nov 14 re child maintaince payments a child with the same Christian name as his youngest child but a different surname. He contacted the CSA asking for confirmation that the child name was indeed his daughter ( her birth certificate has his surname) . the person he spoke to said that she would investigate and he would hear back in December letting him if it was his daughter and also any payments he would need to make. He has now received a letter stating that he needs to pay £55 a week and that he has arrears back to November 2014. Can he contest the arrears as it is not his fault he has fallen behind it is due to delays within the agency also he will struggle to pay £55 a week can a lower sum be negotiated . any help please
baby 24/03/2015 at 4:31 pm
Me and my ex partner have our so 50/50 . I also have 2 children with my partner . I pay my ex as was told by csa but my ex has said she no longer wants me to pay and just to pay for things as my son needs them . She always has an agenda so am wondering if the claim can be cancelled once it has to be opened
SeparatedDads Editor 18/03/2015 at 1:54 pm
@daks - it should be fine if the finances are separate from what might be considered your marital assets pot. For instance, if you have saved up enough money to put down a deposit since your separation then the courts will not count this as part of your joint marital assets. However, if you are taking money from an account that you and your wife may have shared, then the court may view this money as partially hers.
daks 16/03/2015 at 10:31 am
Hi, I about a house after 8 months of seperation from my wife..it's been 32mths since seperation after 9yrs of marriage with an 8year old son. I live with my partner and our son and thinking of buying a property together. I would like to know if my wife will have any claim to any of the property when I file for 5 year seperation divorce? She declined to give consent to divorce I applied for the 2 year with consent though we both agreed before applying. Also though my 8 yr old has been living abroad since our seperation without my consent I still give her £150 /mth for child maintenance ...will I then be right in stopping this payment as the child isn't in Europe? Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 16/03/2015 at 10:40 am
@fedup - I am sorry to hear you are going through a tough time. But if your ex is not earning an income, he will not be liable to pay child support, or at least the very minimum if he decides to sign on. However, it is unlikely that your children would be removed from you through the courts for financial reasons and if they are happy and healthy then the court will see no reason to give your ex residency. The court will decide what is ultimately in the best interests of your children and consistency and stability figure highly in your favour. I have included a link to Turn to Us here which can help you to see if you may be eligible for any other benefits. I hope this helps.
fedup 12/03/2015 at 8:49 pm
hi, my partner was paying me 300 a month out of his good wages for his two daughters. He has now not got a job and told me that ... I will no longer be paying csa as I am not working now. and that was that. I am disabled and can not go to work and have to pay my carer to look after me and my mum to help with the children. the carer helps me and my children too and we all work together. the children have a lovely home life and love being with me. I am concerned as I do not know why he does not have a job all of a sudden but the csa informed me that he is going to go to college and has nil income of less than five pounds a week. He is not going to sign on and will most likely be going to say that he is living off the good will of his family and savings. does he have to sign on? He takes the children out every time he has them, all over the place eats out and is taking them on holiday in a few months time and although he has maybe already payed for this I am wondering how he will fund this holiday or run his car or anything else if he is on nil income. I would have thought he may say to me look I will try and help with a few pounds when I have it. but nothing. we split through emotional physical and financial abuse and he would not support me when we were together and he has written to the csa many times saying he did not want to be paying anymore as he would like his own house so I know he did not want to pay it and did not want to support me when living here so things sound a bit odd to me that all of a sudden he is not going to work and going to go to college in his 40;s. im left with being barely able to feed my children. shocked. now I am wondering if he is going to try and take the children so that I have to pay out of what I have csa to him!! because it is the sort of thing he would do and he would take them along the grounds of my disability. but it is not my fault I am sick.
SeparatedDads Editor 10/03/2015 at 10:48 am
@G - you would need to apply through CMS or the courts for a DNA test if you are concerned about your parentage, If you do not have the test then you are liable to pay child support until your child leaves full-time education. If the DNA test says the child is yours, you can then apply through the courts for parental responsibility and contact order. Many fathers are self-litigating to avoid solicitor's fees with a good amount of success, see our partner article Legal Aid Withdrawal: How to Represent Yourself whichOur Separated Dads Facebook page may also help as there are many constructive postings and comments on these very subjects from fathers who have been through it all themselves. I hope this helps.
G Editor 07/03/2015 at 3:31 pm
@seperateddads the link clearly states i can only gain rights if i am named on the birth certificate or married to my ex at time child was conceived...both of which i wasn't. My 2 main concerns are 1....i will not get legal aid to support my case in order to gain access and 2...i know question if the child is mine?? As we do not speak i can not ask my ex her reasons for not putting my name on the certificate. Now the CSA can deduct whatever money they wish on her say so that i am the father?? This all seems a little 1 sided!!!
SeparatedDads Editor 04/03/2015 at 11:25 am
@G - yes, if your ex has named you as the father, even though you are not the father on the birth certificate, they can take money. However, you can go to court in order to get 'parental responsibility', which means you can then apply for access through the courts. I hope this helps.
G 01/03/2015 at 8:23 pm
Can the new CSA scheme deduct money from my wages for a child even though i am not named on the birth certificate? I have sought legal advice to gain access but advised i have no legal rights as I am not named as the father on the birth certificate!
Barry Editor 27/02/2015 at 10:12 am
@B - it will be taken out of his earnings from the company, but you will have to be careful here because if he gets a good accountant then there are ways of making it look as though he is earning less than he possibly is.
B 25/02/2015 at 10:46 am
My partner is setting up his own company, can csa take money out of the company?
SeparatedDads Editor 26/02/2015 at 3:01 pm
@NewMum - yes, despite the name change, he is still their father and still presumably has parental responsibility, so therefore he is responsible for supporting his children. He can see how much he may have to pay if his ex goes through the CSA, via whichI hope this helps.
NewMum 25/02/2015 at 7:43 am
Hello,

My husband had children with his ex wife. It was a volatile split 10+ years ago with her making it impossible for him to see the kids (forcing him to take legal action when he was not financially able to do so). My husband recently got back in touch with his children after his ex wife saying it was now up to the kids.

Up until 3 years ago, my husband was not in a position to pay child maintenance as he was not earning enough. When we got together he managed to get a decent job for a year and is now in another decent job.

The ex wife has been living with her partner for 5+ years and the partner treats the children as his own. They also have a child together. The children's surnames have been changed to match his name, even though the ex's name is still the same (bit strange...)

I recently became pregnant. The ex's partner decided to get very hostile upon hearing this news saying my husband needs to pay up. My husband is of course wanting to pay towards his children and I agree. He has got in touch with his ex directly and asked to come to an arrangement but she demands it goes through csa.

What concerns me is, if the new partner has played dad to them for 5 years and had their names changed to his - is my partner actually responsible for child maintenance payments?

Thank you.
grumpy 17/01/2015 at 5:59 pm
I have recently received a letter from the csa stating that I owed my ex wife a huge amount of outstanding c.s. the child, with whom she claims is mine is now 27. Can the csa force me pay after this ridiculous amount of time. Btw thw childs parentage is disputed by myself as she was having an affair when I was married to it
Brenda 15/12/2014 at 5:18 pm
My son has recently been shocked to discover that a German ex girlfriend from 2013 whom he know for six weeks now wants to claim him as the father of her baby girl. He did not want to see her again and when he did know her she insisted she was on the pill. He feels he has been used and that his human rights have been taken away. She did not contact him at all until November 2014 and then only through the child welfare department in Germany.
Why should he be forced into paternity without any consultation at all! This is the equivalent of being used as a cash cow to fund a child he did not plan and is unlikely ever to see. His earnings mean he has to live at home with us and still has a large student debt. He can't afford to support himself let alone a child. He is entitled to some legal aid in Germany.
Women can deliberately allow themselves to become pregnant in order to access welfare and benefits. There should be something that allows men to have some say in what goes on! Why should a man be deceived into fathering a child and have to bear the consequences?
unwanted 19/11/2014 at 12:43 am
My ex told me she planned a pregnancy and went along with a birth knowing full well I didn't want a child with her as we only started our relationship weeks before, however we separated as I had no feelings for this woman it was a mistake and she went thru with the birth that child is now 9 years old I regularly made payments even tho I was forced into becoming a father and now I am monetarily stuck with the burden of paying for this child, it might sound heartless but I was with the woman because I felt sorry for her and I was lonely too I guess but I certainly didn't want to be a father and she only let's me see my daugher if I'm single once I got with my current partner she stopped letrongnme see her and my weekly voluntary payments were not accepted now she has been granted full csa back pay even though I've been paying her until last month!! Can she do this?? Am I not entity to not be a father as I chose not to be and she swore to me she was on the pill help needed
Jamia Yasmin Ali 29/09/2014 at 10:11 pm
I'm sick to death of hearing about the paying parents issues. You should be ready to give your flesh and soul. The caring parent is doing what you're doing and a lot more. The dog that was paying only gave £24 PCM via CSA not voluntarily. This is my petrol money per week let alone my sons costs. What a bunch of useless boys you all are. Now csa has declared he cannot give any now. I work as a single mum and bring up my son and have not struggle financially. You're all absolutely pathetic and disgusting. Don't have children if you cannot pay for them you dogs!!!!!
TC 28/09/2014 at 4:51 pm
I am divorced, have joint care of my 3 children, but still pay CSA under the old rules. The case started in 2011. My ex has child benefit for two of the children and me for one, so she's only able to claim CSA for 2 out of 3. Under the new rules I don't have to pay any CSA, but I've been told that unless my ex closes down the case with the CSA (she'd never do this I'd she'd loose out financially of course), and transfers to the new scheme, I'll still have to pay CSA until ALL cases are eventually transferred to the new scheme which could be years. Is this all true?
BaldockDad 25/09/2014 at 8:59 pm
I have a deduction from earnings order from the CSA to repay my maintenance. I have never missed a payment, but I was declared bankrupt a while ago when I lost my job. When I returned to work I contacted the CSA and it took them 4 months to calculate what I had to pay back. My bank wouldn't allow me to have direct debits and so every month I phoned up and paid by debit card over the phone. It was 2 months before my bankruptcy was discharged and the CSA informed me that I now needed to have a deduction from earnings. They sent me a repayment schedule for around £500 per month. I was currently paying £160 per month. I contacted them and informed them that with my current wages I would not be able to afford this and so it was recalculated for me. My employer didn't take my first payment out and so next month they took just over double the amount. I have just received my pay for this month and discovered that they have taken another £768 from my wages, my CSA re-payment schedule says I should've only paid £168 for Septembers re-payment. What can I do to try and either get this money back or stop this in future?
TQ Editor 03/09/2014 at 11:32 am
@Russell page, why is CSA not working? If you are receiving child benefit for the children then you can claim CSA from her. If she is refusing to give her details to the CSA then they have the power to find her details out through HMRC.
Russell Page 02/09/2014 at 9:11 pm
I took custody of my children via child services as my ex was not meeting basic child needs plus into drink and drugs,she had an attachment of earnings for csa payments,now sold house for £306000 after bills has been left with £100000 in bank but will not pay a penny towards her kids and csa say not working, what can I do
none 13/08/2014 at 2:49 pm
I pay over £80 a week csa and council tax take 3 payments a week and because of this am now home less can any one help me I am only paying for one child I am so depressed
confused Editor 05/08/2014 at 12:29 pm
@Minnie, do you have guardianship of the child or have you adopted the child?
Minnie 05/08/2014 at 2:37 am
Could i claim dla from my sons birth mother if shes claiming dla for being depressed as she has never paid s penny for him since shes walked away wen he was 8 weeks old hes now nearly 3
Stressed 28/09/2013 at 1:36 pm
The csa is the worst run organisation in the history of uk. People are not at the other end of the phone and I am a father who has paid. However due to incompetants at the csa who have no idea what each department is doing they put innocent people under immense stress. They can do whatever they want to do even when they are incorrect in what they do. Give up work is what I am doing as what's the point. Take my dole money.
Curious 17/07/2013 at 3:44 pm
I have 2 children, one from a previous relationship ( for which I receive no money from the father). I had been with my now ex husband and father of my second child for 10 years. We have recently divorced and pays maintenance for my second child. As we were together for 10 years and he fathered my eldest from 3 years old, am I entitled to any maintenance from him?
DJB15 29/06/2013 at 6:09 pm
Me and my ex wife untill recently split custody of our daughter 50/50. Recently she changed the rota against my will so she has her 20 days a month and I have her 10. She is now threatening to go to the CSA for payments. Is she able to do this when she has taken my time with my daughter against my will?thanks for any advise
Loz 25/04/2013 at 3:15 pm
Hi ya, my ex has not seen his son for ten years, he has made no attempt to see him and lives 2 hours away, he has given me no money and refuses to acknowledge his existance, I know he doesn't have a job but at the same time doesn't sign on, so I wondered if I was entitled to anything or any back pay? Thank you.
spurs 15/04/2013 at 10:16 pm
My partner has just lost his job. And hiscsa is a big part of my income tho I have a partner he also pays csa to his own ex. I only earn 200 pound a month and don't no how we are going to survie. My partner only earns. 900 odd pound. A month and 200 pound goes to his ex and. We have 3 children that in our own house hold what can I apply for. To help bring up my own 2 children who are not my partner as he certainly can't afford to and pay council tax and rent
71212 26/03/2013 at 10:24 pm
My ex has lost his job, he got three months notice pay and three months redundancy pay, does he still legally have to pay me, he is not signing on for income support or job seekers Allowance or claiming anything.
Andypandy 02/02/2013 at 6:01 pm
Hi, I have been paying my ex wife her maintenance payments without fail for the last four years, based on my income then, it is a court order by the way, I have been out of work now for three months with no regular work coming in, so can I have my payments reduced, I have text my ex to inform her that I can't pay the full amount anymore, by the way she has recently paid me off in the settlement, £38k, would this amount be taken into consideration by the judge when I go back to court for a variation, thanks
teedee 28/12/2012 at 8:36 pm
can somebody please advise me on who i need to talk to about claiming child support for my son. he is now five. his father never seen him and said he wanted nothing to do with me when i had my son. hes never paid me a penny as he says hes not the father. he is and id be willing to go through dna. i havent ever thought about this sooner as i was too proud but why should he get away with not paying for our sons upkeep whether he sees him or not. adviice pease welcomed. thankyou
kez 21/10/2012 at 10:17 pm
hi my ex partner left me twelve mths ago for another woman he has been helping me with the upbringing of our 3 kids but has now told me cant pay me any monies as his new lady is not working and he has to look after her and her son as she has no money coming in could you tell me what im enetitled to and that as im now struggling as im only on esa my self as unable to work during illness reasons he doesnt even bother to seee them that much
Bev 03/10/2012 at 11:46 am
My son has had no problem paying CSA he was even honest enough to informthem 18 months ago he had a pay rise, they told him they would get back to him with any ajustments they haven't until now. They now expect him to pay arrears of £2000 and they want to take £120 a week from him, he's explained he has rent to pay for a 2 bed house as he has his son sleeping every weekend, a car to run to get to work and to collect/drop off his son, plus the clothes, shoes clubs he pays for. and all they said was that's miners. They even told him he should have put the money to one side, but like he explained it's your problem I informed you 18 months ago you promised to get back to me. On CSA website it does say they take into account rent/morgage payments but when you speak to them they denie it, then they come up with thats the 60% we take into account I wish they'd make their minds up. His case worker was very rude and unhelpful. Is there any help or advice anyone can give us on what we can do in this situation?
Caitirin 24/09/2012 at 3:55 pm
Hi My Partner split with the mother of his child a year ago the child is 6. He pays her £50 per week cash. Plus he takes the child everyother weekend a 2days after school when hes off work or else 1 night a week and every other weekend if he is working.

Does he have any rights to getting the child full time and the mother only getting part access, as when she is ment to have the child she either sends her to him so she can go party r see her boyfriend or leaves it with is family.
Dee 19/09/2012 at 7:24 pm
My husband has had an agreement with his ex since 2004 when she first approached the csa that due to her drug use he would not give her cash but to provide for the childrens needs such as clothes, shoes, school uniform, school trips, holidays etc. His ex does not want to work but is capable of doing so and has played the benefit system for years, however her eldest daughter has now left home causing a reduction in her benefits, the ex has also split from her boyfriend who lived with her undeclared and whom paid her bills and she is also now being told she has to go to work. What does she do ring the csa saying the arrangement thats been in place since 2004 is now inadequate and wants cash and wants it back dated to 2004. my husband is being asked.for over 100 pound a week that we cant afford to pay, but there was never anything put in writing but she has never complained about the arrangement until now!!! Surely if the arrangement had been adequate for her up til now the csa can see there's something amiss??
effed off 22/08/2012 at 8:50 pm
hi, can anyone help me? my partners circumstances have just changed, this will affect the csa he pays, but are the csa allowed to tell his ex HOW his circumstances have changed?
thanks
Lovado 31/07/2012 at 11:51 am
I was wondering what happens if my childs father is saying hes not claiming and hes lost his job does he still have to pay something? I think he is lying to me so that he doesnt have to pay me anything since I have been pregnant with his child wich is due in 4 and half months we have broken up and he is saying he is not got to support me so im curious if im entitled to anything? and should I see a solicitor maybe.?P.s I am in 2 minds wether I should put him on the birth certificate or not will this affect anything?
Fuzzypeg 18/07/2012 at 11:08 am
Hi I have a few questions that I would like answered if possible. My partner pays his ex wife maintenance every month around £700 per month for his daughter and has done since they divorced 7 years ago. The amount has always stayed the same and I wanted to know if the amount should of increased as he has had various pay rises since they separated. He seems to think It should of but I see it that he pays her a percentage of the amount he earned when they split up?? Also since they split up we have had a daughter together and another child on the way so surely the maintenance should be reduced to recognise that he has other children? We have a mortgage too and as I am bringing upOur daughter I am currently not working so his is the only salary coming into our house. His ex lives with her boyfriend and has done for years and he works full time and she works part time, His daughter from he previous marriage lives with her mum full time and is with us one night every other week and 3 weeks of holidays every year too. Please can you confirm whether he should have his payments reviewed and let me know what percentage of Jim net pay he should be paying her?Thank you
Jo 10/05/2012 at 9:30 am
My husband has had to start paying child support arrears for his 17 year old son of £80 per week which we cannot afford. My husband has always paid towards his son as his son's mother and my husband had agreement that if my husband bought him things, they didn't need to get the CSA involved. Where does he stand with this.
Belle 16/04/2012 at 11:53 am
My partner and I got together very early on in his childrens lives and I knew the children outside of the relationship for a good few years first and meant we have a good connection now. However from the start my partner had to make CSA payments as his ex partner also took private payments from him and then as soon as we got together told the CSA he hadnt paid her anything. He got stung, she now wants his to pay privately again but we are sticking with CSA despite some of the stigma of fees etc at the end of the day he can prove for the last 5 years each and every CSA payment he has made to her. Also dads this is brilliant for your children as when they get old enough to understand and come to you and say "my mum says you never help her out, you never give her money" you can say hand on heart I have always given your mum money and help and I dont need to lie about it. I love you thats why I help her. We are honest with my partners children and those we have together we believe strongly that we should never lie to the children. There should however be some reward system for those fathers who willingly pay through CSA to ensure that there childrens mother has that money. Its a system of proof for you incase of silly accusations, and god forbid something should go wrong with her care of your children you can always say you were there, you did pay and she has no excuse.
Allison 29/03/2012 at 8:17 pm
Read these comments with interest as a parent who receives no child support at all from the well-off father of our two sons. Just occurred to me that as I really can't afford to feed them, clothe them, finance their leisure time, transport them, keep them warm or give them a holiday - I should just dump them on the street and expect somebody else to look after them. Instead I go without, worry about the bills and who will knock on the door next and still tell the boys that their dad loves them. Strangely, they are starting to question that. Good job we don't both expect someone else to pay.
Dave 27/02/2012 at 1:46 pm
I have been making private csa payments to my ex partner at her request since december 2010 since that time our friendship has broken down and has reported to the CSA that i have not made any payments in that time scale, I made my last payment on 15th Febuary 2011, however the csa are demanding £600 to be paid now despite me saying that payments have been made it is my word against my ex's,as payments were made in cash the csa state i do not have a leg to stand on despite having witnesses to prove i made those payments, where do i stand please help.
Andy 18/12/2011 at 10:15 am
My son is nearly 16 and will probably leave school next year with a view to taking on a modern type apprenticeship. I have been paying the ex 20% of my wage for the upkeep of my 2 children, my daughter is 13. This has been going on since 2005. I have been fortunate enough to have my children from Friday night to Monday mornings when I have not been at work. Now whereas I want the best for my kids, having paid the ex £220,000 and selling the house at the time, I now find myself about skint, can't afford to switch the heating on etc. living in rented which I have done since I was divorced. The ex has since moved on and is living with a wealthy man and they have since had a daughter. Could anyone advise me as to what my obligations are regarding continuing maintenance for my son, because somewhere in all this I need a small break financially although I want to be right by my kids. Neither will I have any involvement with the CSA because I've only ever known them shaft blokes.
R 17/11/2011 at 9:06 pm
I have recenlty been made unemployed. I pay £300 pm maintenance to my ex and have done so since seperation. My ex now thinks I should still be paying her the same sum even though I have no income and no savings. In fact she states she has taken legal advice that tells her she is entitled to it? Is this correct and what is the legal position? Thanks
colin 18/08/2011 at 8:48 pm
I have a job opportunity to work abroad. My child is 14 and at a point in her life when friends come 1st and dad last. I have been paying over £140 per month for over 10 years and I'm wondering if this would be affected with a considerable pay rise working in a different country. this is the only thing thats stopping me from going away knowing that my daughter doesn't get much of what my horrible ex wife gets.
Greg 27/07/2011 at 1:18 pm
Whilst I agree with the information given here, I'd say if at all possible make arrangements with your ex to pay maintenance and don't involve the CSA, apart from perhaps using them to calculate what you should pay.

I'm one of the luckier ones in that my ex and I get on well enough to do this. Had she used the CSA I'd have lost my home as I am on an extremely low wage and could afford to cover both the 'recommended' maintenance costs, and my household bills. Don't get me wrong, I'd pay every penny I have to support my kids, but the fact is my ex and her new partner are far better off than I and didn't need it, so she was - and still is - willing to take a lower amount than I was assessed for.

As things go, though, I have to trust that my kids benefit from this money. I have no way of knowing or seeing what it gets used for. No one does, really. My kids are well dressed and looked after, but does the money I pay go to them or not? I've no way to know. My ex's joint income, with her new partner, is quadruple mine, so she's doing fine. I have to skip meals every second night before a kid's birthday so I can save a few quid to buy presents. Again, I don't mind, I'd give it all to my kids, but point is, do they get it?

Further more the CSA make a reduction for time the kid(s) sleep over with me, but none for the times I see them but don't have them sleep over. This, frankly, is wrong. It costs nothing to sleep. Yet when I have them for the afternoon I have exactly the same expenses to cover - petrol to collect and return them, food, fun, whatever. No allowance is made for that, so again to do it I skip meals (or whatever) myself.

I agree the CSA needs to exist to sort out those absent fathers (or mothers, it cuts both ways) that refuse to pay, but they sure don't help, or care, about ones like me, who want to pay all we can, but are being financially crippled at the same time. Unless, like me, lucky enough to have an ex who will work with me to make sure I don't end up homeless, or worse.

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