Child Abduction Law: What Separated Parents Need to Know

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Child Abduction Law: What Separated Parents Need to Know

Child abduction by a parent is rare, but stories have appeared in the news more regularly in recent times. The increase in travel availability, better links with foreign countries and introduction of low cost airlines means that cases where one parent takes a child on holiday and is pursued by the other parent on abduction charges are more common. To avoid any illegal activity and ensure you can relax and enjoy holidays with your child without wondering what court action will be waiting for you on your return or risking arrest, make sure you understand the law surrounding abduction.

If you're concerned about your ex partner potentially relocating abroad with your child without permission, you can check your legal position using our free Moving Away Rights Checker.

What Does Abduction Mean?

According to the Child Abduction Act 1984:

"…a person connected with a child under the age of 16 commits an offence if he takes or sends a child outside of the United Kingdom without the appropriate consent."

This means that any situations in which you leave the UK with your child without official consent can be classed as abduction. There are two separate offences: one of removal, and one of keeping, according to the case of Foster v DPP [2005].

You are 'a person connected with a child' if you are their parent, guardian, or have a residence or contact order in respect of that child.

The 'appropriate consent' means the consent of the child's mother, father (if he has parental responsibility), guardian and any person who has a residence order or custody of the child. The amount of consent needed will depend upon your circumstances. Your right to take your child abroad will depend on the access you are granted too.

You do not however need any person's consent to remove a child under 16 from the United Kingdom for up to one month if you have a sole residence order in favour of the child.

It is however always best to discuss your plans with your former partner even if you do not need their consent. If they removed your children from the UK, even if it was just for a holiday, what would you think? Would you panic that they were gone forever? They do not have to agree to your plans, or even like them, but they are less likely to start misguided, but time-consuming court proceedings in the short time you are away if they know when you are going, and where. If you are able, you could even ask your children to keep in touch with their other parent whilst you are away (eg via a short telephone call or via skype or email).

"'Abduction' is a legal fiction because a parent cannot 'abduct' their own child. Although lawyers are keen to say that 'no law is gender bias' all too often the courts are willing to recognise this legal fiction when it applies to fathers and not so keen when mothers are the guilty party."

As detailed above, a parent can legally abduct their own child. It is true that it is not an offence for a mother to remove a child from the country without the consent of a father without parental responsibility. The same applies in reverse, though it is less common for mothers not to have parental responsibility as their name is automatically put on the child's birth certificate. Case law shows that it is however more common for women to commit child abduction than men, and the courts take a very hard line in these cases.

Can a Child be Abducted Within the UK?

Although the legal systems of some countries within the UK are distinctly different, (eg Scotland has different laws to England and Wales), all matters involving child movement are governed by the same laws. If you move your child within the UK, it cannot be classed as abduction, as long as you have Parental Responsibility. However if you decide to move within the UK, the other parent can still seek the return of your child through court proceedings.

In order to prevent the hassle of court proceedings, and potentially having to move back somewhere after a recent relocation, it is always best to notify your former partner of your intent to move. If they do not want you to move, they can instigate court proceedings in the form of a Prohibited Steps Order under section 8 of the Children Act 1989 to attempt to prevent this. Of course these court proceedings would still be a hassle, but surely it is better to deal with any potential problem before you move, rather than move and risk being told that you have to move back.

"Would like to know where I stand on my rights? My ex partner and mother of our 4yr old son has started a new relationship and is thinking of moving them down to Wales from Eastbourne, England. I'm against this as it would ruin the relationship between my son and I, please help."

If one partner moves with a child elsewhere in the UK, you can obtain their return if this results in a breach of any contact order. Under Part 1 of the Family Law Act 1986, a contact order is enforceable in any part of the United Kingdom once registered with the court (despite Scottish courts having a different legal system).

If you do not have a contact order in place, you can apply for one from the courts. Alternatively, if you already have parental responsibility, you can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order under Section 8 of the Children Act 1989. (You need to fill in form C100 (you can get a copy at here and pay a £200 court fee to apply).

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Fathers with Parental Responsibility

Even if you both have parental responsibility, you have the right to take your child on holiday.

"I have split from ex whom I share 2 kids with, (2&4 years old). We weren't married but I have parental responsibility and want to take my 4 year old on holiday to Spain to see my parents. My ex doesn't like my parents and is refusing to give me consent to take my daughter. Is this reasonable grounds and do I have any rights?"

It is highly advisable that you seek the agreement of the mother before taking your trip, as it can be classed as abduction if all people with parental responsibility have not given consent. Taking your child out of the country without letting the mother know will also reflect badly on you in future legal proceedings, while aggravating the relationship between you and your child's mother. If the mother is unavailable to give consent, or if consent is being 'unreasonably withheld', then this consent does not need to be given.

You will not commit an offence under the Child Abduction Act 1984 if you remove the child:

  • a) In the belief that the other person has consented, or would consent if they were aware of all the relevant circumstances.
  • b) Having taken all reasonable steps to communicate with the other person but have been unable to communicate.
  • c) Following the other person unreasonably withholding consent.
If your former partner refuses to consent, you may take you child abroad on holiday. However ensure that you have proof to support one of the above defences (for example a copy of a letter sent by recorded delivery to your former partner informing them of the holiday, including when you go away, when you get back, and where you are going).

Your situation may be slightly different. ask a question below ↓ and our editorial team will reply with our advice.

What if You Don't Have Parental Responsibility?

If you have not got parental responsibility, you have no right to take your child abroad at all. It can be classed as abduction as soon as you begin travelling with your child and you may face criminal prosecution. There are a number of offences you can be charged with, including child abduction, kidnapping and false imprisonment.

If your relationship with your former partner is good and you still want to take your child out of the UK, you must be granted permission by them to do so. Failure to obtain consent is a quick way to upset your former partner, which in turn may well cause your child distress.

The UK has signed both The Hague Convention on Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction 1980 and the European Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Decisions Concerning Custody of Children. These Acts allow signatory countries to take action to assist each other in returning children to their home country. They have had great success to date, finding and returning children abducted abroad in average in 11.5 weeks.

Applying to Move Abroad Permanently?

If your aim is to move permanently with your child to a foreign country and your other partner does not agree with the move, you will find some obstacles in your way. To be granted a move you must prove to a court that you have a reasonable and realistic plan which has the best interests of your child's welfare at heart. Obviously, if your plan involves taking your child to a country where contact with the mother will be limited, the child's welfare will be called into question.

The law will always try to consider the child's feeling in these situations, depending on age and understanding. Children over the age of 11 will normally have a deciding say in the relocation, while if a teenager expresses a wish to remain in the UK, it is very rare that a court will demand that they leave with the parent.

If wish to take your child abroad, either for a holiday or to live abroad, make sure that you keep the other parent informed. It is far better to work with the courts than against them, and being arrested abroad is never fun, even if you are later released without charge!

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Fingers 22/03/2022 at 11:03 am
My ex partner and I split in December, it was agreed verbally that we would share PR 50/50
Friday came and my 4yr old was not at the childminders and all comms with ex have been fruitless she is not at her home and has not been to nursery other than she is staying with her until further notice and it won’t be 50/50, I don’t know where she is and I have 4 siblings from a previous relationship that I have full PR for wondering where their little sister is, the legal process seems so slow is there anyone who can advise as I am going out of my mind wondering what I can do
I want to go find her myself but fear this isn’t the best move for the child but I also don’t trust the mothers state of mind…
Katy 14/04/2021 at 6:55 am
I understand this is for father's but there's not many pages that r in my situation that can help I trusted him with my child as I knew it would break him if I taken her of him then.
Katy 14/04/2021 at 6:53 am
Hi me n my ex split up few years now because of him being abusive to wards me... My child lives with him as I had nowhere to take her no one wanted to help as no harm was happening to her only me(but that's another issue) .. As far as am aware we both have parental responsibility for the child.. I want to take her aboard to meet my family members (that not got long left) when I speak to him he's okay with me taking her but as soon as I mention to get passport sorted n dates booked he changes his mind saying he doesn't trust me on plane with her ect, that they should come to UK (they unfit to travel) or that I don't go there my self why bother n I explain again why I want to go only for few days so they see n meet our child. He knows I will come back as I don't plan staying there but he just making it difficult every time I mention it to book... Have you got any advice what I could do?
My ex is British I'm not my child British with his surname.
NaseerT 22/11/2020 at 8:48 am
Hi, I would like some guidance with my case. My ex wife and I separated back in Aug 2018 after a difficult and turbulent marriage. We have a daughter who was 6 months at the time, who I have not seen since. Soon after my ex left she applied for a "to live with" child arrangement order and was granted this by the court. My ex took my daughter abroad in Feb 2020 without my knowledge or permission. I have reported my daughter abducted as well as applied for an awardship and return order. My ex and her family are unwilling to speak to me or answer my calls. To put some pressure am I in a position to reduce the amount of child support I give without suffering any repercussion from the child maintenance agency. Is there anything else I can do to help my case? Thanks
Andy 03/07/2020 at 8:45 pm
My ex has took my child away with out my permission for 2 weeks it should be my weekend this week and next week is this classed as abduction as I don't know where they are as she's moved homes and has blocked me from contacting her by social media and over the phone can she do this we have joint custody
Tex 10/11/2019 at 8:26 pm
@samy236.depression anxiety is the number one silent killer these days .so I would be careful if she tried to commit suicide twice .the suicide rates are so high these days .they might find her swinging from the rafters .
Samy236 10/11/2019 at 7:16 pm
My partner got depression, tried to commit suicide twice, I took her and our 10 months old daughter to her parents in Slovakia to help her to recover, we went there on the 16th of oct ,I left her there and I came back on the 22nd. She supposed to come back 10 days ago ,but she refused, she said our relationship is over and she will never come back to England, and her mum says as well the same ,so they keep saying her depression because of me not because after giving birth,and I have all the evidence about her depression. Please help
In pain 08/08/2019 at 4:15 am
Hi. My two daughters now in the early teens where taken to Ghana without my consent by my my ex. I have not seen them at all and have only spoken to them twice in three years. They have been brainwashed into disliking/hating me and my ex claims they no longer want to speak to me. I have no contact details for them or knowledge of their whereabouts so I have to rely on the mother to call me via her skype. She doesn't even live with them as she stays and works in England. I do not know who they are staying with. I myself have moved overseas but still have family in England who are prepared to do anything it takes. Please help me as so far I have been advised I cannot do anything as they are overseas. Thank you
Nothappy 21/07/2019 at 5:11 pm
Hello
Me and my ex share a Cortada by eight-year-old son has to stay with my ex I have contact and parent responsibility my ex has left UK and has taken our son with him he sent me a day when they were going abroad for a family holiday on 25/6/19 but they left on 18/6/19 what can I do
mady 09/12/2018 at 9:04 pm
My wife is an Indian national and went to Saudi on visit along with me. Her parents came up to my place and took her and my kids forcibly and were out of reach. I reported them to saudi authorities and they gave me complain report. UK high commision is just a useless crap that they didn't even allow me to meet official or give e help of any sort so i had to come back UK. I have been trying to get them back to UK as they are overstayer in saudi without access to medical or schooling and are in fragile condition.
Johnny 22/11/2018 at 7:58 am
Hi there,
My wife and I split two years ago and recently told me that my son can’t stay overnight with me. This came about after I had an argument with her sister when she suggested that my two and a half year old son’s aggressive behaviour was a result of him staying with me. He stays with me once a fortnight.
She’s now accusing me of taking recreational drugs and says I need to pass a drug test and get anger management (she and I partied when we first met 10 years ago, I’m 44 now and those days are long gone) before I can see my son again.
What can I do?
She’s deliberately trying to stop me from seeing him over Christmas.
What are my rights as a father? How can I stop her from doing this?
Glowfish 25/10/2018 at 8:34 pm
In December the ex took our younger children and held them telling them daddy did not love them or want to see them, I messaged everyday asking to see them but all ignored this went on for six and a half weeks with out me or their other siblings seeing or having any contact with them, we then had mediation and an agreement was set up making me main carer for the children and this has been running fine till last week when the ex broke the agreement and again no contact for me or the other siblings, if this type of behaviour is not abduction then what is the name for it where by the children are held from seeing the other parent for no reason at all ??
LilGaz 24/10/2018 at 8:23 pm
I don’t really know where to start, my ex has changed my daughters name I don’t know if this is by deed poll or just at school, when my ex asked me if she could take our daughter abroad I did say I would not give consent as I can’t trust her, so I never heard from her for next few months and was told they didn’t go abroad when I finally heard from her not my daughter, the last 3 years I’ve only been allowed to see my daughter twice a year birthday and Christmas, the last birthday my daughter asked me why do I think I’m her dad. Last year I also found out one of the hospital visits she claimed my daughter was taken in was a lie I phoned the hospital to see if she had been discharged yet but had no record of my daughter being there, and this year I have been told that a taxi driver made inappropriate comments to my little girl and that they were going to court soon, so today I rang the police station to find out more information and strangely they couldn’t find anything relating to this, so I asked for more information regarding this and got a reply telling me I shouldn’t of contacted them it’s not my place, which makes me question the truth in this. Is it wrong for me to feel concerned for my 5 yr old daughter if her mother is willing to lie about such an incident?
AL 04/09/2018 at 11:34 am
My partner has just applied to the family court to seek formal access to his daughter. During he last month he has on three occasions been to his ex partners house to see his daughter but the house is always in darkness with no sign of the mother or child. The mother does not answer her phone and has blocked him on all social media. He fears that the mother has returned to Poland, she is a Polish national, with his daughter without his consent or knowledge. How does he proceed with the family court application and what are his rights under UK law to find out where they have gone?
Thank you
Klo 01/09/2018 at 8:10 am
Hi. Me and my husband split 1 year ago. In may 2018 I asked him to sign for her passport as I wanted to take he to Italy to see see my parents. He didn’t sign for it. On July I left my daughter with my friend which is her babysitter as well. (She loves her) and as soon as I was back to England he took my daughter and he don’t want her to come back to me. What should I do? Help me please as I want my daughter back with me.
Thanks
SeparatedDads Editor 07/08/2018 at 11:30 am
Yes, it is still classed as abduction if one parent keeps or takes the children to another country without the resident parent's authorisation.
Owens1673 05/08/2018 at 7:54 pm
Hi there, my partner is from Poland and her childrwn were born there. For 10 years they have lived and the children educated in the UK. The father has said terrible things to the children and has also convinced them that they are going to live in Poland. The children have visited their grandparents in Poland, but now the father it seems wishes to keep them there. Although in the separation agreement its states the children could go to poland for a few weeks in the summer only. Is this still classes as abduction even if the children were born in Poland?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/08/2018 at 2:53 pm
I am sorry ot hear this. You can take legal action, as theoretically this is child abduction. whichshould tell you all you need to know. We cannot state what the court will decide, how long the process will take or what the decision may be. Best of luck.
Simon 31/07/2018 at 3:50 pm
Me and my ex partner had some problems between us and decided to break up. We have a 21 months old baby. She went to her country for holiday a few weeks ago. She's now refusing to come back to the UK. She says she and the baby is happy in their country, if you want to see the baby you can come for a day, see him and go back. I say to her, come to the UK, choose wherever you want to live, let's find a house for you and our baby. I'm ready to pay for the rent and all your expenses. She still says no.
I'm not asking her to leave the baby with me. I know she takes care of the baby really well. So, I'm fine if my baby lives with his mum. But I want him to be in the UK as he will learn English and my language as well. But if he lives there I will not be able to communicate with him.
We were talking about this for a few days now but we can't come to a decision as she doesn't want to come back to the UK.

I want to take legal action against this if necessary.

As far as I know this is child abduction as I didn't grant a written permission for her to take the baby out of the country and stay there forever.

My questions are;
Can I take legal action?
If the case goes to the court do you think the court will decide in my favour?
How long the whole process will take?
How much will it cost?
C.laurie 06/05/2018 at 11:52 pm
I would like surname removed to please thanks .
C.laurie 06/05/2018 at 11:38 pm
My x was having a long affair with my (uncle and a roofer and countless one nighters) .and because of this I want nothing to do with my (daughter )and this is the reason I didn’t fight for rights .i (really tried) to change that but I (really can’t if some people thinks that’s wrong or weak or whatever I (don’t care)it’s my personality .but I know her( mother is a good mother )And looks after the children well.its on her that she didn’t want money .thanks and goodbye.
louise 05/05/2018 at 10:12 am
I recently found out my husband had been having an affair with a friend of ours, we have two young children and live near his family in Edinburgh, I want to leave him and move with the kids closer to my family near Devon, but he is telling me I cant as he will take me to court if I take the kids away, I have no friends up here and whilst his family is close by, they are his family not mine and do not offer any real support. I know mentally I would be happier near my family but I don't want to drag the kids through a court preceding. I feel trapped up here. Is that true that I can't move back home with my kids?
Pidge 03/05/2018 at 11:30 pm
My partner is divorced from his ex wife. They have an 11 year old daughter. Last summer she asked to take the girl to Thailand for Christmas and new year to visit her brother who lives out there. My partner consented and was sent a form for him to sign to say he was giving consent for her to go to Thailand with her mother. The child has her fathers name and the mothers passport was a different name. She was travelling with her older son from a previous relationship and her parents. When they arrived at the airport she was told it was not a good idea for her to fly to Thailand as 10 years earlier she had been imprisoned in a Thai jail for possessing a small amount of weed. Her parents paid the Thai mafia to get her released. She spent 4 months inside. Instead of informing my partner of the situation she went home and the children flew to Thailand with their grandparents for Xmas and new year. The children never told us about what happened until recently. My partner was livid that his daughter was able to leave the country with no consent from him(the form he signed stated that it was only for his ex wife) to this day she still has not disclosed this information to him. Although my partner does want to confront her about her actions...but he wants to know if any crime has been committed.
SeparatedDads Editor 05/04/2018 at 2:00 pm
You would have to get permission to move from the other parent with parental responsibility. If your ex refuses, then you would have to either try to resolve the issues via mediation, or if this is not successful apply to court.
Molly 04/04/2018 at 6:35 pm
Me and my husband split up at Xmas we have bought met new partners .mine is in the army in Edinburgh he has been in the army for 10 years and can't move as yet .can I move with my two sons age 4 and 2 .my 4th year old starts school in September so I need to move soon .where do I stand I live in North Devon
Thank you
D 04/03/2018 at 9:00 am
I have a 13 year old son who lives about 200 miles away. I do not have parental responsibility and i am not on the birth certificate. He wants to live with me and he is desperately unhappy. if hr gets the train to stoo with me would i get into trouble, i know she wouldnt sign over any parental responsibility, what can i do? Ive told him to tell her how he feels but he says she will take his phone off him and punish him.
Jmiah 10/11/2017 at 5:15 pm
Hi,

I got married to a my ex partner who is a Bangladeshi national. I am a british born bangladeshi and have always lived in the UK all my life. After being in the country for 2 years she made false allegations of domestics against me for which i was first convicted for. However I was found not guilty at my appeal.We have a 2 year old son who she fled with when he was 2 months old.After he turned 1 she lets me have him over at home for upto a week at a time. Since then she sent me divorce papers and is now demanding i give her my passport number so she can get a passport for him and take him abroad. However I do not conse t this as she has already denied me and my son not to have any contact for over the 10 months and believe as soon as she gets him a passport she will flee again. But she is also threatening me that i wont see my son again if i dont give her my passport number. What do I do because i dont rhink I can take it if I loose my son again. We have both not got any court orders or child arrangment orders of any kind in place as me being able tohave contact with my son again was arranged through my own family contacting my ex.

Also, if I was to give my passport number to her and she was to make a passport for my son, would she be given an indefinate leave to remain in the UK?
SeparatedDads Editor 02/11/2017 at 10:42 am
If your ex has taken your child to another country, but you did not report this at the time, then you would have to seek legal advice to explore what your options are. However, it is highly unlikely a court would order that your ex brings your child back to the UK after such a long period of time. Your ex may be able to justify that your son is now settled in Spain with regards to schooling etc.
danny 01/11/2017 at 3:33 pm
hiya my ex never married has taking are son without my promission to spain from uk where he was born. issue being hes been gone 2 years.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/09/2017 at 9:52 am
If your child been taken or kept overseas by their other parent or a relative without your permission, or if you are worried this might happen. The leaflet here will tell you what you can do and who to contact.
Gary 31/08/2017 at 3:54 pm
My wife two young children and I were working and living in UAE full time as UAE residence she returned to the UK for summer holiday with my children then after a week in uk she called to tell me she is not coming back and keeping the children?
Mikey740 06/08/2017 at 11:01 pm
I'm a dad from Northern Ireland I took my daughter to Dublin for a day trip within the time of the contact order I'm not married but I am on the birth certificate.
SeparatedDads Editor 29/06/2017 at 2:30 pm
Much depends upon who the day-to-day primary carer is of your son as the court usually opts for continuity. If you have parental responsibility, by law your ex has to request your permission to move out of the area with your child. If you refuse, she would have to take the matter to court. If she moves without your permission, you can take the matter to court, but whether the court would rule to move her back with your son (once left) would be determined upon what the judge thinks is in your son's best interests. However, if you feel your son has strong family and school connections and you feel as though your partner may move him without your consent, you in turn can apply for a Prohibited Steps Order. Again, the court will decide what it thinks is in your son's best interests i.e whether your partner can take your child or whether your child should remain living with you as his primary carer. I think in your position, it would pay to seek some legal advice. Mediation is also an option to consider in order to try to come to a resolution without having to go to court.
LondonDad 28/06/2017 at 11:07 am
My partner of nearly 9 years has informed me she intends to move to Scotland with my 6 year old son (who I have been there in his life since the moment he was born, my name is also on the birth certificate) to care for her aging mother and to make a fresh start. She has asked me to come but it hasn't been discussed and agreed by both of us. She has already made this decision without my agreement. I feel like I am being forced to go or I am no longer allowed to be his father (living with him as opposed to being a long distance father) and continue to have a say in his upbringing. My son last year was crying on the phone saying that he wanted to come back home to me as he was missing me. I know if he had to chose , he would rather be with his dad. Please help me, I don't think I could live without my son.
SeparatedDads Editor 20/06/2017 at 11:58 am
You can see more about taking a child out of the country without permission via whichThere is no official body where you can complain that your ex has taken your child out of the country, your only option would be to look into applying to court for a Prohibited Steps Order, in order to try to prevent your ex doing this again without your consent.
Reno 17/06/2017 at 10:44 am
I have 2 children one lives with me and the other lives with my ex wife. I have just found out she took my son away out of the country without notifying me who do I need to report this too so it never happens again? Your advice would be really appreciated
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2017 at 11:36 am
I am very sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, as we are only a general advisory service we cannot comment upon this as it is beyond our remit. Unless any of our readers have personal experience, then you would have to continue to seek legal advice and/or Reunite International may be able to help you further, I hope you manage to resolve this situation soon.
stevesjem 23/05/2017 at 2:55 pm
Hi, On December 6th 2016 My partner took our then 18 month old son for a holiday in Slovakia and was to return on the 19th December, She announced while she was there that she was not going to return, I contacted the ICACU and opened a case for the return of my son under the Hague convention, This according to the convention should have been dealt with in a 6 week period according to my sons Habitual residence in UK, However this is not the case and I feel that the Hague convention has not worked in my case, I got very little help from the ICACU and even after numerous emails their response time is very slow, I took this to the High Court in London and my son was made "Ward" of the court and also 2 orders have been made for the mother to return to UK which both have been ignored, I have an EU solictor who has requested that a hearing be held in Slovakia to enforce the High Court orders and they have done nothing, My son has been declared as a missing child with interpol and they have done nothing, My solicitor has contacted the supreme court in Bratislava to enforce the orders of the High Court and again, you guessed, They have done nothing, We are now trying to enforce the orders using the Brussells iia regulation and as far as i can see this cannot be overturned, however it seems that I must get a certificate from the court to this effect, But when I look at the court order for return I have already it does annex this regulation, so My question is Is the court order I have "The Certificate " I need to exercise the return of my son?, if not what is the procedure to get this certificate?, Once I have the certificate and it has been officially translated in the member state language where my son is being kept can I just go there armed with this and take him back or will this be classed as a re-abduction? It is now 6 months since my son was taken and I feel I am not really getting anywhere and at his very young age (Now 2 yrs old) I am worried that the bonding between us has been broken and could be quite difficult to get back, So any help from anyone would be appreciated just to help me go in the correct and lawful direction..Thanks
Stevie 28/03/2017 at 10:12 pm
My 15 year old daughter (16 in 7 weeks) is very unhappy living at home with her mother and her husband. My daughter wants to live with me but my ex is starting to prevent my access. Where do i stand in terms of getting my daughter to live with me and what do i need to do? We were married at time of birth so i have parental responsibility. What can i do to get my daughter living with me?
Jamest 01/03/2017 at 1:25 pm
I have a child arrangemts order for access on Sundays so I want to know does my ex need my permission to take my 3 kids on holiday in the United kingdom without my consent
SeparatedDads Editor 16/02/2017 at 2:42 pm
As the father has PR, you would have to ask for his consent to move out of the country. If he refuses, your only recourse is to apply to court. You would have to prove why it was in your children's best interests to take them out of the country to live. If you can prove you have a job and an apartment, then it will stand you in better stead. As specified in the article, taking them out of the country without consent would risk you being charged with abduction.
Ellasara 13/02/2017 at 9:02 pm
I have two children, 3 and 4 and hope to move to France with them next year.
Their dad (who has PR) has not financially supported his children in over two years, I was granted an injunction against him (violent and emotionally/financially abusive) and in that time he didn't see them for 6 months. It took for me to call him to arrange contact. Social services reported little to no contact between him and them and there was no intention to see the children, certainly no arrangements were made.

He hasn't seen them for 2 months this time and has now reared his ugly head again and is demanding to see them. They have spoken on the phone a couple of times and he has asked to have them at the weekend.

Although I have always encouraged their relationship, I can't help but think we'd be better off leaving the country and starting a new life away from him and the traumatic memories.

Can I just leave and never come back? I have a job and an apartment out there - plus a wonderful bun have of friends aching for us to join them.

Anyone have any advice?

Many thanks
Blackandwhite 11/02/2017 at 4:25 pm
Living with my gf is becoming a nightmare after our daughter was born. Everyday it gets worse. If I was to kick her out could I keep my daughter and she not be able to take her back.
SeparatedDads Editor 28/11/2016 at 2:24 pm
A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. The court will assess what it thinks is in the best interests of your partner's child.
Bra123 26/11/2016 at 9:52 pm
My fiancee has a 14 year old, the childs mother has said she will pay for the 14 year old to go to Australia when the child is 16 for 3 weeks. My fiancee does not want the child to go as he feels that the child is not grown up enough to fly on their own for a 24 hour flight also the 3 week period would be over christmas. Is there any way he stop his child from going?
Boats mc boat face 19/11/2016 at 6:43 pm
Hi I've been split from my children's mother for nearly ten years she moved over three hrs away 9 years ago and I've had regular contact with both my biological daughter and her son that I've brought up as my own since he was a baby although I'm aware of I don't have rights to my son who now 15 and soon will make his own choice where he wants to live but my ex is getting more and more unstable and unreasonable with police getting involved with both her and now my son getting in trouble I'm desperate to keep my daughter safe as I'm on the birth certificate if I asked her to stay one weekend and she wanted to would this be legal or illegal I've spent thousands in the past getting solicitors letters etc all a waste never got a response and was put off going to court incase of being blocked from seeing my son
Eleni 27/10/2016 at 4:53 pm
Hello there, my boyfriend has a 4 year old daughter with his ex and she does not allow him to see the child because he has moved on with me. She uses threatening behaviour and is abusive. He goes weeks without seeing his daughter and she does not allow him to speak with her even over the phone. He is very upset and distraught this has been going on for years. She has a new partner and has now taken the child out of school for 3 weeks to go to turkey with her new man who lives there. She has engaged him in the 3 weeks and is threatening to move to turkey with the baby and that my boyfriend won't ever be able to see her. She is not all there in the head she has a mental illness which has not been diagnosed. Please answer me. Is she capable of moving to turkey and taking the child out of education and leaving the father. She does not allow him to see her or speak with the baby. She is trying to move on with someone else and make the baby forget who her dad is nd pretend this new man in turkey is the dad. Please help me. My boyfriend can not afford a lawyer what are our options?
Stuey 06/09/2016 at 8:01 pm
My wife and I moved to Fuerteventura 4years ago to live, along with our 2 young children. A year after living here my wife gave birth to our second daughter, Lucia. We have lived here together, very happily, or so I thought, for 4years, and my wife recently gave me one and a half weeks notice before taking my kids back to the UK to live.
Everything in our relationship was normal. We never, ever, agued, there was no physical or mental abuse, my wife just announced that she missed her family and was fed up with not having much money. Crazy reasons if you ask me! But now I am struggling to get to Skype with my children and I really want my children living back with me.
Where do I stand as the children's father? Has she 'abducted' my children? If so, how do I get them back?
Stuey 06/09/2016 at 7:52 pm
Myself and my wife moved together with our 2 children in 2012. Our son was nearly 4years and our daughter was 2years. 1year later my wife gave birth to our 3rd child, our daughter Lucia.
We have been living in Fuertevenutra for 2weeks short of 4years and 3 weeks ago my wife decided that she had had enough of living here and has taken our 3 children back to the UK to live. She is being financially supported by her parents and sister.
What rights do I have to get my children back.
My eldest 2 have spent more of their lives living here in Fuerteventura and are fluent Spanish for their ages. My son was one of the top 5 students in his class. The school is an all spanish school with only 3 English children there, 2 of those were mine.
My youngest was going to a Spanish nursery and loved it also.
Everything in our relationship was normal, no violence, no arguing, neither one of us has cheated on the other, everything seemed to be fine. My wife was also due to start a new job as an english teacher.
Is this classed as child abduction? Where do I stand with regards getting my children back?
angc 17/08/2016 at 12:28 am
My son and his ex separated 6 years ago when his dauhter was a year old. He has PR. His daughter had stayed with him every weekend and one day mid week since then (for the last 6 years) His ex partner had a child to another partner two years ago. That relationship broke down recently.
At the beginning of the summer holidays she took the children for a two week break 300 miles away to Devon as she always does ( She is originally from ther and her parents live in the area) The day that she was due to come back , she text my son to say she was not coming back and had found a job and house over there. He had absolutely no knowledge that she was planning to move away with his daughter. She will not divulge her new address. He is absolutely devastated. Where does he stand in the eyes of the law. ?
abdlwkl 18/06/2016 at 6:34 am
I am a Kenyan citizen married to my British Wife for 14 years. We have 2 kids (Boy 6 years and Girl 8 months) who are both British. My wife and kids have all been living with me in Kenya as my legal dependents and my children have been schooling here as well. Two weeks ago my wife abducted my kids to the UK without any information whatsoever and has not been in touch since. My various attempts to contact my in-laws in UK have also proved fruitless. As a (non-British) father of British children who have been abducted by their British mother to the UK, what are my rights and Legal remedies under British Law if I want my children back. I have been the sole provider for my wife and kids. As a housewife, I am not sure how my wife will be able to care and provide for both our kids and I do not want them to depend on UK social services when I can provide for them in my country. I cannot live being separated from my kids and it seems my wife is using this fact to her advantage. Can you please kindly guide me.
WeeGuy 29/04/2016 at 1:57 pm
HI, my ex moved away with our 3 year old daughter, i only had 10 days notice. she said she moved to one place then i recently found out she has moved to somewhere else/ she said she moved again but she never told me when they moved again. i dont have an address of where my daughter is staying, i feel like as a parent i have rights to know where our daughter is living, also i do not know anything about my ex's partner. all i know is his name which i would like to know more about him but my ex said that i dont need to know as she knows he is not a bad guy. but i do not know that.
i do see my daughter every week once overnight i have her but im concerned for my childs saftey. her new man could generally be nice but i would like more information about him too.
SeparatedDads Editor 15/04/2016 at 2:39 pm
You would have to apply through the courts for access. Please see link: When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access
Mick 14/04/2016 at 6:33 pm
My ex has moved my son 300miles from England into Scotland. The move was amicable with an agreement that we share the burden of visitation. This has since fallen apart from her side, she now refuses to do any of the travelling and will only allow me to speak with son if I travel up, blocking telephone and video chats. I have parental responsibility. Is there anything I can do?
SeparatedDads Editor 31/03/2016 at 11:21 am
Your ex can take your child abroad for 28 days without the permission of anyone else with parental responsibility only if she has a child arrangements order. Otherwise, she needs permission from you, if you have Parental Responsibility, If you do not wish your child to be left behind, or if you think your wife may plan to leave the country permanently with your daughter, then I suggest you seek legal advice immediately.
Ambuye 30/03/2016 at 7:36 am
My wife went on holiday to one of the EU countries with my daughter, she is due back on sunday but is now saying she wants to leave the child there for abother 3 weeks while we sort things out... I have not agreed for the child to stay there but she insist that she is not coming back with her. She plans to live the child with grandparents but i worry that my daughter might not come back. What actions can i take?
SeparatedDads Editor 10/03/2016 at 12:06 pm
Please see link: What Happens If My Ex Keeps the Children Without My Consent? here. You don't say who is the primary carer in your situation, if your ex is the primary carer, then you would have to apply via a C4 form through the courts, which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts and a contact order. I hope this helps.
richie 09/03/2016 at 12:38 pm
My partner has moved with my 2 yr old child and is ignoring my requests of his new address. Is this classed as child abduction?
Tg 19/02/2016 at 11:18 pm
My children have not seen their father for 18 months. I have told him to go to court if he wants to see them. The relationship was very inconsistent when he did see them, he'd let them down a lot. He also was very abusive to me in front of the kids, shouting, calling me names, tried to teach my 2 year old to say 'mummy is a sl*g', and used to think it was hilarious if I had to change plans (including cancelling shifts at work last minute) because he decided last min to not have the kids. It was also an abusive relationship when we were together, but there isn't really proof of that. To add to the mix he was a drug addict with an addiction to coke. I found out at the same time I was pregnant with my youngest child.

My youngest child is disabled, he has called him a spastic and denied he was his. He has had a DNA test confirming that he is his dad. He had very little relationship with him and favours the eldest. Since the contact between them has stoped, the children have come on leaps and bounds. Extremely happy and behaviour is golden, where it was far from desirable before...

He says to everyone that he wants to see the kids, however has never made any attempts apart from turning up at my house kicking off. He has never go to get a court order, nor tried mediation. I did try mediation but he didn't show up. He has got PR as he is on the birth certificate for both children.

I am moving from the Midlands to Scotland In the summer, as it would've been 2 years since he had seen the kids, do I need to tell him? Could he stop me? I don't think he would go to court, he has made no attempts to get a court order to see them, but it does frighten me that her could make me move back, or even stop me from going.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/02/2016 at 1:40 pm
I'm afraid as we are a UK-based site, with knowledge only of UK family law (which would differ in SA) we can't answer your question.
SeparatedDads Editor 12/02/2016 at 10:54 am
Your ex obviously has no say in whether you go on holiday with your eldest child. However, I assume you wish to take both children away together. If so, you would have to apply for a Specific Issue Order through the courts, I hope this helps.
concerned 11/02/2016 at 8:36 pm
I have been offered a teaching post in the UAE. I currently reside with my 9 year old son in SA and want to take on this 3 year contract and give my son and I a better life. My ex-husband refuses to give consent not considering the better prospects for his son - private international schooling, a better standard of living, medical insurance. I don't want to take him away from his father, I want to give my son the best I can. What should I do? Can he stop us from taking this opportunity?
bestie 11/02/2016 at 12:43 pm
please need advice asap. Me and my partner are splitting up after 6 years we have a 3 year old son together but I also have a seven year old from a previous relationship. My partner doesn't have any parental responsibility over my oldest child, yet refuses to letme go on our holiday with my children. They are getting upset that I cant go what can I do
SeparatedDads Editor 29/01/2016 at 1:49 pm
If you have parental repsonsibility then your ex should have asked for your consent. However, it depends on what action you wish to take in response. Should you wish to take it to court, then it would be up to the judge to decide whether it was in the children's best interests to remain in the school or move back to the old one. Of course, it is not so simple i.e there may no longer be any school places at the old school, or the children may have settled into the new school by the time the case comes to court, in which case the court would possibly rule not to move them. Also, if your ex can give good reason for moving the children, then the court may decide act in her favour, regardless of the fact she did not seek consent. It's a tricky situation to navigate and will cost in legal fees. So before you decide to take it to court, I suggest you take some legal advice. In addition, you don't say whether your ex has remained in the area or not. If she has taken the children out of your locality and it is impinging on your ability to see them, then you should have more of a case.
js 28/01/2016 at 8:47 pm
Can my ex partner move our children from one school to another without my consent. I have parental responsibility and have them for 3 nights a week one week and 2 the enxt.
SeparatedDads Editor 26/01/2016 at 11:41 am
If the grandfather does not have parental responsibility, then the police should be able to return him to his parents.
Patsyb10 25/01/2016 at 2:32 pm
My son and his partner have been accused of abusing her son. Police threatened to arrest them if they did not give him to her mum while their investigation was carried out. The police have closed their case stating it's a case for Social Services. The boy has been told off for usual youngster's misbehavior, parents are trying to ensure he doesn't have access to porn, facebook, eats healthily etc but the boy feels hard done by. The nan has passed the son to her ex-partner, his grandad, who is refusing to give him back. They have been told to complete an emergency court order form, as the grandad actively encourages him to lie and has given him the password to the parental control his parents had put on his Kindle, in order to get him returned to them so they can get people in to help the boy sort out the issues he has about not seeing his real dad. The form does not seem to apply to their situation, is there anything they can do to get him returned
Ted 23/01/2016 at 4:51 pm
I need some advise my partner has run away with my 4 year old and her two children. She won't answer my texts or calls and I don't know where she is. I call the police and reported her missing, they have found her and checked the kids are OK which they are but won't tell me where they are and now won't help me any further. I really want my son back I never even got to say good bye. Please who should I contact for help in this situation
SeparatedDads Editor 13/01/2016 at 12:17 pm
It depends whether your ex has been awarded a Child Arrangement Order (Residence Order) which officially states who is considered to be the resident parent. If she has and you decide to keep your children against her wishes, then the police could get involved and return the children, which may have repercussions on your access. It's never best to take the law into your own hands. If you are concerned, then I suggest you either ask her to attend mediation to try and resolve the situation between you. Or take it through the courts to let the courts decide who your daughter should live with. See article: Applying for Custody: Court Procedure, here which tells you what Cafcass and the court considers when making its decision.
Big daddy 12/01/2016 at 8:03 pm
Hi me and my ex have just gone thru court i have days and times in a order that i see my daughter im on the birth certifcate my qwestion is can i get arrested for kidnapp if i dont return her to her mother on time if i think she is at risk from her mothers lifestyle she has drug users around our daughter ?
SeparatedDads Editor 06/11/2015 at 1:59 pm
You would have to apply through the courts for access and also fill out a C4 form, which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. It will allow the courts to put a trace on your daughter in order to allow you to apply for contact/access.
kev 05/11/2015 at 7:03 pm
Hi I need help my partner has disappeared with my 7 year old daughter I reported her as a missing person the police made contact with her but they won't tell me where she is, I want to see my daughter what can I do.
Reyna 17/10/2015 at 7:46 pm
i really need some help! I was married for about 9 years with a man that has problem with drugs, alcohol all his life. it was difficult to live with but the last year our relationship was very difficultbecause I stopped his parents see the children and his parents put him under-pressure and he threatened me with death in front of the children and he hit my dog and he was violent in front of the children and he assaulted me physically and he took the children and their passport to his parents house. i have called the Police, i was in shock i couldn't believe that it was happening to me after that his mother obligated him to divorce me with false allegations i have no a solicitor, i was in college and also i have to look after the children and i was going to college, i had no car and so on i couldn't defend myself. i have no family or friends around me, this man isolated me from my family, friends and people. i went to women refugees, police, social service and nobody wants to help me, because my ex-husband has a solicitor, he asked to the courtprohibited order, remove my children from the Wales to England or to my own country, I have British passportbut now the court has order that my ex-has live with my children. my ex- is using drugs, alcohol, and he told me he killed to one of his classmate and he told me if I don't cope with him he will kill me. The man is very dangerous, he is using drugs and unstable mind, violence, murder and he wants to abduct and probably paedophilia but his mother is friend of the police, women refugees and social worker and they are supporting My ex , i am very concern about my children,i did everything i can't carrion with this situation any more if i don't follow the court order child, arrangement i will fine by the court. what do i have to do? what can i do to get the custody of my children?
Reyna - 17-Oct-15 @ 7:41 PM
Reyna 17/10/2015 at 7:41 pm
i really need some help! I was married for about 9 years with a man that has problem with drugs, alcohol all his life. it was difficult to live with but the last year our relationship was very difficult because I stopped his parents see the children and his parents put him under-pressure and he threatened me with death in front of the children and he hit my dog and he was violent in front of the children and he assaulted me physically and he took the children and their passport to his parents house. i have called the Police, i was in shock i couldn't believe that it was happening to me after that his mother obligated him to divorce me with false allegations i have no a solicitor, i was in college and also i have to look after the children and i was going to college, i had no car and so on i couldn't defend myself. i have no family or friends around me, this man isolated me from my family, friends and people. i went to women refugees, police, social service and nobody wants to help me, because my ex-husband has a solicitor, he asked to the court prohibited order, remove my children from the Wales to England or to my own country, I have British passport but now the court has order that my ex-has live with my children. my ex- is using drugs, alcohol, and he told me he killed to one of his classmate and he told me if I don't cope with him he will kill me. The man is very dangerous, he is using drugs and unstable mind, violence, murder and he wants to abduct and probably paedophilia but his mother is friend of the police, women refugees and social worker and they are supporting My ex , i am very concern about my children, i did everything i can't carrion with this situation any more if i don't follow the court order child, arrangement i will fine by the court. what do i have to do?
beef 17/10/2015 at 5:00 pm
hi

Can me Ex legally take my son out of the country if we have an on going custody case?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/10/2015 at 1:02 pm
I am sorry to hear this. Your daughter needs to get some professional legal advice asap. As the father has the same rights as the mother to look after the child, as long as the child is not in any harm, the police cannot usually do anything about it. If a child has been taken by their father and the police cannot do anything, the mother can make an application for a residency order. If the child was snatched and/or she believes that her child may be in danger, then she can apply for an emergency ex parte application. This is also known as a 'without notice application' i.e. the other party is not given notice of the application. If the mother cannot make an ex parte application then an application can still be made but the father can attend and make his case. At the end of the hearing, the judge will make an order. I hope this helps.
jilly 07/10/2015 at 9:36 pm
My daughter has been in the process of breaking up with her long term partner and it came to a head. But my daughter had been away to see her sick father and allowed her 5 year old to stay at her partners parents she had a delay as he was very ill and couldn't get back until the Monday and a argument ensued with her partner and she again asked him to leave so she came to me and said she would leave her child with his parents then arranged on the Tuesday to have him removed and changed the lock this was the evening she said she would leave her child there as she didn't want her to see the arguments any more. anyway partner went home to his parents and has said he will not let her daughter go home. it is getting ugly the police and social cannot help as he is on her birth certificate which gives him rights. my daughter is beside herself. help someone please let me know how she stands on this matter.
bazzer 29/09/2015 at 5:49 am
I have been divorced 2009 and up until about 4 years ago we still had a very good relationship which was mainly in respect of our two children... Since she met this guy around 4 years ago, she has moved in with him, moved my childr on en from their school without my knowledge, moved out after he beat her and had an injunction served him, they are back together before injunction ends, he constantly interfears in my children's relationship with me, he has attacked me in front of my children and my ex said I attacked him first...lies... He has alienated my ex from her parents, my parents and her best friend . They have now stopped me seeing my children because no other reason except they can...he tried to come .Into a mediation session , which was not about children but what she can squeeze out of me via the house, after which he collected my children from school because whilst in mediation I said I would probably walk home with them as this is the only chance I get to see them.. He then drove past me hollowing and shouting woop woop because he had my children. Can this be deemed as abduction
Aliy1 28/08/2015 at 10:46 pm
My wife is from iran. Me and my daughter are both British. My daughter goes to school in London. My wife went on holiday with my daughter to see her family. Now my wife is not coming back and she is not giving my daughter back.

What should I do?
las 22/08/2015 at 9:57 pm
My son was "abducted" last weekend by the mother. My son, 10 years old lived me from 2011 - 2015 february. In the last couple of months the court ordered the child should live with her. We had 5 hearing since February. Our case is on from 2010. Child has Guardian, social worker, cafcass, psychologist. The mother was suppose to bring my son last weekend for a 2 weeks Holiday with his Passport to travel with me. Booked everything etc...
MOther's partner has physically mentally abused the child in 2013, 2014, no one done anything. Police was in his school 2 times, i needed to bring him home.
Anyway, last week I made application C79 and C100 for urgent hearing and official act to be taken by court and guardian.
I reported it to the Police.
Today I called the mother's partner's workplace where he has been working for 10 years, and the hotel told me that the guy resigned a week ago, and yesterday left the UK.
I called the Police telling them everything, and stated as seriously planned child abduction. She breached 2 court orders in the last 6 weeks.
The Police told me:
- Is she the resident parent at the moment? (police)
- Yes (me)
- Did she breach court order is there any proceedings still on? (police)
- yes, the court wants to make a decision about our son;s long future on the 1st of Septemeber - in 1 week -where and with who he should live. (me)
Police: - we are so sorry, but if the mother is the resident parent at the moment, she can take the child away even she has been breaching court orders. We can not do and will not do anything.

Wowowowow......!

So what can I do then?
SeparatedDads Editor 20/08/2015 at 10:02 am
As long as you have evidence that you have not stopped him from seeing your child, then that should give you the all-clear and means you are not in breach of the contact order. I can't speculate whether he will be in 'trouble' because he has not turned up for the visits or has immigration issues. I'm afraid that will be for the courts to decide, based upon the evidence provided by both of you. What will be uppermost in the court's minds (given it is a family court) will be, what is in the best interests of your child.
Babybatts007 19/08/2015 at 1:27 am
Hi
Me and my partner been separated for a year now. I have never denied him access to see his child, In Fact I tried so hard to reconcile.
I went abroad whilst trying to contact him but to no avail he ignored every thing to the point where I told his sister that I'm going abroad as my grandfather (now deceased) had cancer and she was the first great granddaughter he wanted to see. So obviously I went abroad and he summons me to court how I abducted our child. He is not a British citizen and he is only using her to stay in the country lol he has even mentioned that to me.

Anyway the court has granted him access and he was ment to see her every two weeks for 3months until further notice.
He has not been in contact with our child ever since and we are coming up to the next court date.
It's very clear that he's not bothered but only using that for immigration use only.

My question is will he be in trouble because even still I have tried for him to see our child and have evidence of that.

Kind Regards
Babybatts007
SeparatedDads Editor 18/08/2015 at 11:50 am
You can apply through the courts for a C4, form which is an application for an order for disclosure of a child's whereabouts. If you have parental responsibility, your ex should have asked/applied for consent from you to move. You need to bring her actions to the attention of the Cafcass officer. However, despite, her actions, and the torment she is putting you through, it may be beneficial to your case if the courts see from her track record what she is trying to do.
K 17/08/2015 at 2:08 pm
Hi, I'm after a little advice on my current situation. I am in the middle of court proceedings (Contact Order). My ex has stopped me seeing my son and has given a number of reasons - all of which have been proven as lies (finally!!).

She has used delay tactics time and time again and used excuse after excuse not to turn up to any of the hearings. The most recent hearing was again adjourned as she claimed my son needed surgery however after obtaining details from the hospital it also turns out this is a lie (which in my opinion is sick to claim your son is ill).

Anyway....these delay tactics have been done to allow her time to move away. She used to live close to me but she has now disappeared, according to her neighbours, the house is empty so it looks like she has done a "runner". I believe this is what she was intending to do all along when I look back...

My question is: what can I do? I have a vague idea of which area she MAY have moved to but that's it. My son has just turned 1 year old and I haven't seen him in months! I have done everything the court has asked me to do and it just seems she can get away with all these lies and not turning up to any hearing. It is tearing me apart not seeing my son and every time i get a little closer she pulls another trick out.

The next court date is another 6 weeks away (based on her lies about my son's surgery and recovery time) but I have a feeling she will not turn up again and is just hoping to disappear off the radar.

Is there anything I can do to at least know where my son is living so I can advise the court? Or should I even advise the court?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
KP 12/08/2015 at 3:21 pm
My question: My ex relocated to Greece with my daughter 4 months ago. We struck a verbal agreement where by she had my consent to move but on the condition that she would return to the UK with my daughter every 12 weeks at her expense and i would make trips down there to visit her in between. 16+ weeks have now passed and she hasn't returned yet and is refusing to do so unless i pay for all the flights needed for both of them. Is there anything i can do about this? Many thanks!
SeparatedDads Editor 12/08/2015 at 1:53 pm
I'm afraid we can't advise you on this as we are a UK-based website, dealing only with UK-based family law. I hope you manage to sort it out.
Matt Editor 11/08/2015 at 10:50 am
You don't say whether it is maternal or paternal grandparents. The resident parent wouldn't need permission, but the non-resident parent would.
SeparatedDads Editor 11/08/2015 at 10:41 am
I have also read the other part of your story. I understand it becomes very difficult when you are trying to maintain contact from a different country. Please read our partner article, When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access, whichIf you were living in the UK, this is the process you would have to go through in order to gain official access. However, there is also the option of going through mediation if you can't agree and don't want to face the court process. Please see article: Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. It may mean you would have to travel home for the sessions, unless the mediator may be able to undertake Skype calls. You would have to investigate whether this is possible. I hope this helps.
lena 10/08/2015 at 12:15 pm
My children were tooken to guatamala 9 yrs ago with my consent and never returned i found out one has returned but i dont understand how when im the only parent on her birth certificate and her passport is expired I'm trying to get her back i. My custody wich i believed to have full custody as I'm the only parent on her birth certificate she is in state of Washington and I'm in nc since her being taken to Guatemala no o e has helped police said its was out of their jurisdiction since she was in another country please help her father is very abusive and as my other child i have a attorney working on getting him back in guatamala
HerrH 08/08/2015 at 8:04 pm
Also I just wanted to know if my child's grandparents need a letter of consent from both parents to travel with my child within the UK?
HerrH 08/08/2015 at 8:01 pm
(continued).she will NOT be bringing Anya to visit me as she is too young? And I can only speak to Anya via video call on a Tuesday Thursday and Saturday at 6pm UK time which I thought ok but now contact has completely stopped.I'm distraught I really am. Whenever I send an email I never get a reply unless sian wants to argue and I really need some advice as where to go from here? I've even thought about just returning to the UK but things will be exactly the same if not worse there because I will be taking a backward step with not having anywhere to live or no job (although I would get a job) and I still wouldn't have anywhere to take Anya for some quality father/daughter time.Please can you help me.Kind regardsJames
SeparatedDads Editor 06/07/2015 at 2:49 pm
@Portia - you would have to apply for a Prohibited Steps Order through the courts. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. Thankfully, this is one of the scenarios that a PSO seeks to prevent. There is no guarantee an order will be issued, but if it is, failure to comply with this order is a criminal offence (often charged as kidnapping) and could result in a custodial sentence. I hope this helps.
Portia 04/07/2015 at 9:09 am
My ex is a Canadian citizen and wishes to take our children on holiday to visit his family. Although I am not opposed to the trip I am concerned he may not return the children to the uk as he has debt in this country and no real
Commitments here ( no contractual employment, just rented accommodation etc)
He has always wanted to move back to Canada and it was always the children keeping him in the uk.
What steps can I put into place? We never went to court preferring to settle the separation and access to children amicably. This has worked to a degree however sadly i don't completely trust him. If he didn't return on his return date would I need to fight it in Canada or legally would he need to return to uk? I just want reassurance rather than potential stress and upset for the children and myself later.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/07/2015 at 1:52 pm
@desperate - I can only suggest you apply to the courts for a Prohibited Steps Order. A Prohibited Steps Order (PSO) is an order granted by the court in family cases which prevents either parent from carrying out certain events or making specific trips with their children without the express permission of the other parent. This is more common in cases where there is suspicion that one parent may leave the area with their children. No, a PSO also applies to any jurisdiction within the UK as specified by the court at the time of issue. For example, if the court finds that there are grounds to suspect the parent in question may take their child out of the area, then they may specify in the order that they do not do so. Failure to comply with this order is a criminal offence (often charged as kidnapping) and could result in a custodial sentence. I can't guarantee that the courts will grant you this order and not let your ex take your child home to live with her family, but it is the only option open to you if you disagree with the move. I hope this helps.
desperate 02/07/2015 at 6:13 pm
I have just split from my wife with whom I have a baby son. Within a matter of days she wants to take him to Dublin to be with her family, making it extremely difficult for me to see him. Is this abduction as it is outside of the UK?
Benx 02/07/2015 at 10:48 am
i have 2 children aged 8 & 11 - 5 months ago I woke to find a dear john letter and my children gone - the next I discussed things with my partner and we agreed to be amicable and share custody however after a couple of weeks both children decided they wanted to live with me as they were frightened at their mums home and couldn't settle at nights. Their mum still saw them on a daily basis and began to stay the night more frequently. 2 months ago my partner and I decided to give it another go and things were going well until Monday afternoon when the police turned up with my partners sister and removed all the children's clothes. The police said they were there to prevent a breach of the peace and that emotional abuse had been alleged against me. I have since had no contact with my children or ex and my texts to the children are being blocked. I have been to the local mediation service this week but want to know if there is anything else I should be doing?
needhelp 01/07/2015 at 9:25 pm
If a child's welfare is compromised (father is Greek - unemployed, hasn't had any income for a year, has lots of debt, is known to the police etc...) & the mother returns to her homeland (which is the UK - where the baby was born & she has family, a home a job & where she grew up) is this considered abduction or unlawful removal of a child? She keeps in touch with her husband & he knows where she is. She has told him she has found a place for them to stay & has found a good job for him but he refuses to go. He would rather go without & starve than go to the UK without sparing a thought for the child. By law will she have to return to her husband despite threats that he has made & despite the fact that she will have to go back no job & no income?? They don't even have enough money for basics like milk & nappies & there are no benefits in Greece.
I would be very grateful for any advice or information.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/07/2015 at 2:51 pm
@jenko - you would have to apply through the courts for a Specific Issue Order, whichI would not advise you taking your child without consent, as it could damage your chances for contact in the future, especially as your ex may lose all trust also.
jenko 29/06/2015 at 10:16 am
Hi I separeated from my last partner in Aug 2014 and now live with my new girlfriend 40 Miles away from my youngest daughter and her mum , I see her on my ex girlfriends parents terms which are a Wednesday after work till 7pm and each Saturday from 9-6 pm , as this is convenient for them as this is when my ex works , I have 2 other children with a previous partner and have them all weekend every other weekend , no problems there . But my 4 yr olds grandparents and mother refuse to let me have my daughter overnight for no apparent good reason other than they don't know my girlfriend who works in care has worked with children has her own daughter no criminal convictions and a stable home , can I have my daughter overnight if I tell her grandparents and mother even if they say I can't ? Thank you
SeparatedDads Editor 01/07/2015 at 12:32 pm
@Matt1984 - I have included a link to our partner site on Specific Issue Orders here. I hope this helps.
Matt1984 28/06/2015 at 4:54 pm
I am a Uk citizen, I am married to a South African and she is currently visiting the UK with my daughter for a few months to see if she can live here permanently. I have worked hard to build a life here and have a great job and excellent prospects for the future. The problem is that my wife wants to return to South Africa with my daughter. Is there a step I can take to legally ensure that if they never come back I still have rights to see my child? I want what is best for my child. Please help.
SeparatedDads Editor 01/07/2015 at 12:12 pm
@andy - You can get the police involved as if the courts has awarded a PSO. They should have powers to return his child to him, if the mother has breached this. I hope this helps.
andy 28/06/2015 at 4:39 pm
My son has a pso against his ex partner. We went to court on thursdayand my son agreed access with her. She had access yesterday and refused to return her what do we do
Step-mum 26/06/2015 at 1:48 pm
My husbands ex was granted permission to remove my step-daughter from the UK, but has since moved to yet another country without consent. She also goes on holidays (less than a month) and tries to hide it from us. We intend to go to court about this ASAP. Which defences is she likely to try to use to excuse her behaviour, and what is the likelihood of my stepdaughter being made a ward of the court?
SeparatedDads Editor 22/06/2015 at 10:08 am
@bud - I am sorry to hear of your situation. Unfortunately, we are a UK-based site and therefore when it comes to family law, we can only draw on UK legislation, which here is age 11, when children's opinions are taken into consideration. However, the courts will still always decide what is in the best interests for the child, which is based on consistency and a stable background. It is rare that the courts will swap a child's residency, unless there are mitigating circumstances. In the UK, a parent has to ask for consent of the co-parent to take a child out of the country, and there are laws in place to apply to prohibit the move. If your son can't come to you, is there any way you can move closer to be near your son? Otherwise, I imagine, like anywhere in the world, it becomes a costly affair trying to obtain some kind of regular access through the courts, which is your only option, if your ex is being awkward. I hope it works out for you. The fact that your son knows you care is the most important thing.
Mr james 17/06/2015 at 8:14 pm
Hi my sister has lived in Gibraltar for 7 years and has had a baby with someone but recently split with him . He's taken my sister to court and she has been told she can never return to the UK . She's stuck in Gibraltar a single parent please help
SeparatedDads Editor 19/06/2015 at 3:03 pm
@Ian - it would look bad in court, yes. The courts don't like parents taking the law into their own hands. Plus, it will make your ex very distrusful of you and it would give her ammunition to request the courts do not allow you unsupervised access, in case you should try to do the same thing again. You need to think of the long term gain, rather than the short-term. Therefore, it would be better taking the traditional route through the courts in order to gain official access, which if she refused, she would then be in breach of the court order. While it may not seem it, it is actually better for you that she has refused the terms of mediation, as any arrangements set via mediation are not legally enforceable. I hope this helps.
Ian 17/06/2015 at 8:10 pm
My wife left me once I found out she was having an affair. She my home with my child. She is refusing access to see my child I have contact mediation and been my self to my appointment 3 weeks ago they have contacted her and she has been to mediation she is still refusing access. It has been 3 months since I have not seen my child. I am now taking her to court. Where would I stand if I took my child off her from her mums house where she is now? Would it look bad in court?
SeparatedDads Editor 19/06/2015 at 9:58 am
@Mightyman - The plain fact is that regardless of whether you have parental responsibility of your child, if you take him without consent then it could give reason to your ex to stop access if she found out, leaving you in a worse position. I can completely sympathise with your predicament on finding yourself at the mercy of your ex, who is beginning to use your child as a bargaining tool/weapon. Therefore, I suggest you perhaps firstly suggest mediation to your ex in order to sort out access, see link Mediation: What is it and is it For Me? here. If she refuses to comply, then you could take it to court in order to try and arrange more regular access to your child, see link When Your Ex-Partner Denies You Access, here. In addition, if you take your child to the party without consent, it could give your ex ammunition to make you look bad through the courts. I think at this stage you have to comply and think of the end-game, rather than a short-term fix. I hope this helps.
Mightyman 17/06/2015 at 12:15 am
Right basically me and my partner broke up a month ago and since then she and her mother has only allowed me to see my son once in that time and that was for only 45mins. Well anyway I asked her if I could take him to a grand parents 80th party because he is afraid that it would be his last and well she said no. What would happen if I just took him there without her knowing? I'm on the birth certificate and the house is 10mins from her own house.
SeparatedDads Editor 18/06/2015 at 2:05 pm
@eagles - I am very sorry to hear this and understandably you must be upset. However, your best approach is through the courts. Given you have had a good relationship with your child in the past, the courts should allow access. Keep in mind that if you take the mediation route, any agreement will have no binding legality, meaning your ex can't renege on any arrangements if she wishes. Should, you wish to take it through the courts, at least if a court order is breached, then you can take it back to court to have it enforced. This all can cost, so one alternative, in order to avoid hefty legal fees, is to self-litigate, see article How to Represent Yourself, here. You can also apply for parental responsibility through the courts, at the same time, if your ex wont give consent. I hope this helps.
eagles 16/06/2015 at 2:21 pm
my child was born in scotland and moved with me and the mother a month after birth. im on the birth certificate. i dont have parental responsibility due to when she was born. we seperated 3 years after she was born but they still lived close to where i am. i see my daughter every weekend. 2 weeks ago they went to scotland. the mother is not returning and has also enrolled her into a school in scotland. does this count as abduction?

i dont want to go to court but i will if i have to.
speaking with my child or seeing her every other month is just not enough.
i did not get to say goodbye neither did my family.

if i cant get the mother to sign a parental responsibility form i will try mediation.
then if that fails i guess i'll have to go down the court route going for as many orders as i feel are important to my daughter with regards to our relationship.

its not fair on my daughter the way she left she must be traumatised.
Outcast 09/06/2015 at 7:02 pm
"If one partner moves with a child elsewhere in the UK, you can obtain their return if this results in a breach of any contact order. Under Part 1 of the Family Law Act 1986, a contact order is enforceable in any part of the United Kingdom once registered with the court (despite Scottish courts having a different legal system)."

This sadly isn't true as I have discovered to my cost and loss - all the mother has to do is go down the payne vs payne route and use the 'distress argument' then family judges (especially older male ones) will allow the mother to do exactly as she pleases - Scottish courts value fathers to a degree, English courts don't.
SeparatedDads Editor 08/06/2015 at 2:40 pm
@brew - you'd have to take it to court for a specific issue order in order to apply to be the main carer while your ex is away. However, it depends when she is going away, as you would need apply at least a couple of months before in order for it to be heard in court. Family law courts get very busy over the summer with issues such as these.
brew 05/06/2015 at 10:56 pm
My ex is going on holiday and I was going to be looking after my 19 month old daughter now after a disagreement she says she is leaving her with her mother and sister who my daughter sees only once or twice a year where do I stand
Dave 20/05/2015 at 11:43 am
I left the Dominican Republic with my child a couple of months ago. The mother was not looking after her, she was not sending her to school, she never had new clothes and was very miserable even though I would pay maintenance. I even continued to pay the mother maintenance if she allowed our daughter to come and live with me in Dominican Republic so I could provide for her and get her schooled. I managed to get the mother to sign an 'Authorization de sali' (authorization to leave) as there is no real schooling system nor health care and generally there is not a good life for her there.
Now in the UK, I have my daughter in a great school, she is very happy, and also terrified that she has to go back to DR. She dislikes her mother and now I am having trouble getting her to speak with her mother on Skype, as agreed, but she does after a bit of persuation.
Now the mother is asking me for mor money, and when I refuse basically because she has an awful attitude, and only brings about misery, she has started screaming on that I must take our daughter back or she will cause trouble. This starts onky when I refuse to send money. Bare in mind she can not support herself, she lives in a house with no toilet nor kitchen, basically a shed, and in a very dangerous barrio, and so no parent wanting the best for thier child woukd want them taken to that environment, especially when it is evident how happy our daughter is here. Nice house, loving family, great school, good secure life.
My daughter was born in Dominican Republic, but now is a British Citizen, we went through a long process getting tests done, I have been on birth certificate since birth etc. But she is a British citizen now, full passport, NHS number the lot.
She is 5 going on 6. Can the mother actually do anything? I keep them in contact with Skype and photos etc so I am fulfilling my side of what I can do.
none 03/05/2015 at 8:17 pm
The facts are all in The English Project.
None 03/05/2015 at 8:16 pm
Does this website exclude adverse commentary?
SeparatedDads Editor 08/04/2015 at 12:50 pm
@dadsright, many thanks for your valuable comments. For those interested you can find a list of the participating countries via which
dadsrights 05/04/2015 at 9:13 pm
Be aware if the child is taken from the UK to the channel islands without consent some islands have not signed the Hague convention which will hamper proceedings.
SeparatedDads Editor 31/03/2015 at 12:56 pm
@son - I am sorry to hear this. I don't really understand why he would say you can go and then change his mind and put in for a prohibitive steps order. Yes, you need to get his consent, which you have verbally. If you are really concerned then you could ask for consent in writing.
son 29/03/2015 at 10:27 am
I am an Australian with an Australian passport but a spousal visa, I have a three year old son abd have been married to my husband for thirteen years. When my son was 1 my husband left me for his affair partner but I managed to convince him to stay as a family. We went to counselling and he still was I'm contact with his woman. As a last ditch attempt I agree to come over here with our son to work on it. A month in, I noticed he was still distant and he admitted he only wanted to be friends and had no want to work on our marriage and He believed that's what I wanted. I want to go home, my son and I our only on year visas. He said we can and he will follow but I am scared he will stop me and put an oder or say I am abducting my son. What do it do? He says it's ok but I want peace before I put my notice in. He will follow but what if he changes his mind.
single dad1616 27/03/2015 at 3:46 pm
Hi my partner has no rights she lost all parental responsibility in court cps said it was not in the public interest to charge her and can be settled in family court but she won't be charged for child abduction even though she had been planning it for weeks she is only supposed to have supervised contact was allowed to have her on her birthday which is when she left the country with her
SeparatedDads Editor 30/03/2015 at 11:26 am
@DJC - you don't say how old your son is, as if he is older then his opinion may be taken into consideration. However, you would have to get in touch with an international family law firm in order to get some legal advice.
DJC 27/03/2015 at 2:28 pm
My ex wife emigrated to American with my son in July 2014 after a lengthy court case. Part of my defense was that she was bribing my son with the promise of gifts etc and that I was sure that once the novelty of the move wore off he would want to come home. My daughter 16 who resides with me went to visit him and he is insistent that he wants to come home. There are mirrored court orders in force. Is there anything I can do to facilitate his return or must I wait until he comes to a certain age?

Your advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
Dan Editor 27/03/2015 at 10:55 am
@single dad1616 - because she is the parent then she still has rights to your child, even though you may have a residency order.
single dad1616 27/03/2015 at 12:18 am
This weekend my child was abducted by her mother after losing parental responsibility and I was given a residency order and took her from the UK to Ireland to my dismay she was released without charge by the police and I can't believe she has gone unpunished and is now messaging me laughing they won't do anything is there anything I can do to get charges pressed against her?
tip of the iceberg 03/03/2015 at 8:55 pm
is there a case that she has breached Article 3 of the Human Rights Act?

I did not intent to write as much as I have so I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.


(didnt all fit in)
tip of the iceberg 03/03/2015 at 8:52 pm
Hi There, I am desperate for some advice. I live in Scotland and all that follows will be under Scots Law. I was never married to the mother and do not have parental rights. My name is on my children's birth certificates.

Early 2013 my child’s mother began refusing me access and so I began court proceedings. At the time he was 10yr old. One day I picked him up from school and we spent a day together down at my new house.
She contacted the police and they in turn telephoned me asking for me to return him. I told them he was safe and well and we would return at a specific time, which we did. On our return the police did not charge me with any crime.

When I contacted a solicitor she informed me that they could indeed have charged me but I cannot remember what she called it nor can I find this information/the name of the crime anywhere.

Last year a Bar Report was made, which has many inaccuracies, all to my detriment, which has left me extremely distressed.

She [the Bar Reporter] has claimed that that day I ‘abducted’ my son and later goes on to say that I ‘kidnapped’ him.
She also states that I have a conviction for drug possession and a conviction for racism. At the time I had a criminal case pending for both charges however I was rightly found not guilty/acquitted on both accounts.
After I read the report and what she attributed to the social worker who was involved with my family I contacted the SWD and they had to contact the bar reporter to make her aware of her errors. There has been no love lost between the SWD and myself but even they had to correct the reporter, again all inaccurate inclusions were detrimental to my cause.

My partner, mother and myself all have issues with inclusions and exclusions from our interviews that feature in the Bar Report.

This report has already gone before a Sheriff in court and after reading it and listening to the mother’s solicitor I was denied interim parental rights and contact and have not had contact with my son to date. All this time my [our] daughter had been living with me from late 2012. She was 14yrs old at the time.

Dates have now been set for a Proof Hearing in the summer but I have read on many sites that for a father they rarely provide a positive outcome and the impression I received from the Sheriff was that they had already made the mind up on the matter however they had to grace me a Proof Hearing.

I was hoping you could answer the following questions for me.

What, if any was the crime I committed by picking my son up from school without his mothers consent?

Did I, as the Bar Reporter claims actually ‘kidnap’ and/or ‘abduct’ my son?
What can I do about the untruths that the ‘impartial’ Bar Reporter has included in her report? Are the slanderous or libelous and what do I do if they are?

The pain, worry and anguish they have caused and indeed mental torture I have endured through many a sleepless night and irrational thinking from the effects of her words
SeparatedDads Editor 09/02/2015 at 12:03 pm
@none - I don't understand what you mean by him not paying 'damages', by that do you mean child support? I can't really advise you on how to win a case. Your ex is entitled to take you to court in order to gain some sort of contact with your child, whether that is through supervised access that will be for the court to decide. You will probably be asked to go to mediation first in order to try and sort contact out between yourselves. If you refuse to go to mediation then it will go to court and will be left to the court to decide what is in the best interests for your child. As you have come through on the abduction page - if you are concerned about his taking your child out of the country then you may be able to get a Prohibitive Steps Order against him in the interim. I hope this helps.
none 08/02/2015 at 8:28 pm
My ex who has not supported my baby since she was born who is now 3years old is taking me to the children court that i refuse him to see the baby. We were not married and he didn't pay damages for the baby and he was abusive to me and the baby I even have a protection order against him. So now the baby is staying with my mom on wat grounds can i win the case? Please help.
SeparatedDads Editor 03/02/2015 at 12:44 pm
@Rahul - I'm afraid we can't advise on European law, only English law.
Rahul 01/02/2015 at 8:16 pm
Hi
I am an Indian man and got married an European women , we have an 18 month old baby my wife visited to her house from india for a month and I gave her letter signed where I mention she can travel with my son And now she refuses to come back saying she does not like india to live any more .when I ask her about our son she replys if you want to live with us should live here in Europe , as i am a business man I have everything here and their in Europe I have nothing , please advice me how can I get back my son . As I didn't know my wife's institutions we had never any arguments don't know why she is doing that , all I know my son will suffer there , please advice me
speedie 07/12/2014 at 5:30 am
I have to kids with my wife whom i am separated from, I have parental responsibility of both children 4 and 8 years old, she has stopped all contact between me and my kids I live over 200 miles away from them if I were to take my kids from school and bring them to my home over 200 miles away and inform the police that I am taking my kids and I will be returning them a day or two before they go back to school after the Christmas holidays where do I stand with the law, I have also found out she has moved address and not informed me and she has had another child to a man she has had an Islamic marriage while still legally still married to me she had let me see the kids but only while she is there, I'm at my wits end as I am running out of options and missing out on precious time with my kids Ive tried reasoning with her in the past Ive even asked the metropolitan police to carry out a welfare check on my kids as I have no idea how they are or who this man is and if my children are safe with him please advice me can i take them and inform the police and will i be breaking any laws
andy 29/09/2014 at 5:35 pm
I have been living abroad (cyprus) for 7 years. After 1 year there my wife and me seperated. I had my 2 children (9 and 14) 5 days a week by mutual consent. I have now returned to the uk having agreed with my childrens mother that I would come first to find job, home etc. and my children would then follow. She has had a child with a cypriot citizen and is now saying she wants to stay in cyprus and keeping my children there, against their will. They both want to come back to the uk and live with me HELP
amberlynne 15/08/2014 at 4:49 am
I have a question me and my husband seperated 2 months ago and he lives in texas now with his new girlfriend and i live in florida. He is wanting me to bring the kids to texas to see him in a couple of weeks. That is also the weekend his girlfriend wants to go back to her hometown in south carolina and i think he is gonna take my kids and hasnt told me anything about it. Can he do that or what can i do to stop it.
fc 28/07/2014 at 9:51 am
My ex is Latvian and has told me she wants to move back there with our 4 year old son, and has told me that if I try and stop her she'll make sure I don't see him again
SeparatedDads Editor 17/07/2014 at 2:14 pm
@danny, there's nothing you can do about the mother taking the child on holiday for two weeks, she could go for up to a month without your consent. There's also nothing you can do reagding where she takes the child on holiday either. Malia is a known as a club 18-30 resort but there are lovely parts too that families regularly visit, so I would'nt worry too much.
Danny 16/07/2014 at 4:12 pm
I have a daughter who Is 16months old and I'm not with the mother anymore, never married. I see my daughter on regular set days and times. The mother is taking my daughter on holiday for two weeks to Malia. I have great concern with this as iv been to malia and it is NO place for a baby. Is there anything I can do to prevent this happening? Iv tried talking with the mother as I do not have a problem with taking her on holiday but she won't change the location.

Thank you
Systemsucks 11/07/2014 at 9:57 pm
My children are scheduled to be coming down for 6 weeks in the summer holidays as there lovely mother decided to move them from a nice town in Devon to Central Birmingham after we split up. (A move that is normally desirable the opposite way round with regards to bringing up children) anyway, I am convinced she is going to demand they come home early, so I was wondering where I stand with my rights to keep them down here. I have parental responsibility, regularly travel to and from Birmingham to see them, pick them up, or drop them off (as there benefit scrounging mum doesn't drive, she chooses not to work!), always have paid their maintenance and bought them clothes and have maintained as good contact as I can bearing in mind the forced 200 mile gap between us. Thanks, your thoughts would be appreciated.
ravz 22/06/2014 at 4:57 am
If I'm not with the mother of my child and she decides she wants to move abroad can I contest and can she do so without my consent
Tippex 27/04/2014 at 10:23 pm
My boyfriends ex wife allowed her parents to take his 3 year old daughter to Egypt recently. She led him to believe that she would be there as well but has since found out that she didn't go. He had asked her where they (ex and daughter) were going on holiday but she didn't tell him and now he knows why.

Does he have any rights to stop her from taking his daughter abroad without his permission let alone allow her parents to by themselves?

Usually he has no problems with the ex taking his daughter abroad but he feels aggrieved that not only did she not tell him where his daughter was but also did not go herself. Please advise, thanks
Need2findtyler 13/04/2014 at 5:44 pm
I need help!

My boyfriends, ex girlfriend took their son away to another part of the country after an argument. Ido not know who was in the right or wrong etc. anyway she has now not told him where his son is and for the past year he has not been able to qualify for any help not can he afford a solicitor, which is frustrating as I work in criminal law.

Is there any way we can find the whereabouts of his son and in a legal fashion of corse, we do not want to burst through her door but merely get visitation rights for him.

I just believe he has the right to see his son.

Please anything would be a big help.
Andy 02/11/2013 at 1:08 am
I found out today that my wife who I am separated from has just return from Brazil with my son, after a weeks holiday, the law states that a parents with parental responsibility need permission from the other parent to take there child outside of the uk. Now this wasn't the case I was not informed she was taking him outside the uk, I was only told that he was going on holiday. Has my ex committed a criminal offence and what can I do now to stop this happening again, thankyou
steve76 12/09/2013 at 4:00 pm
I am a little confused on this topic. I have two children with my ex (aged 2 & 10). I have recently located to Ireland, my children live with their mother in the UK. I have parental responsibility for both my children. There is no court order to stop me seeing my children, she just stopped it due to jealousy and money issues. Am I within the law to just go and take my children from their school/day care and take them with me to Ireland? I have read conflicting stories, some say I can do this because I have as equal rights as their mother, others say I cant because its kidnap.

Thank you
alibaba 18/07/2013 at 7:16 am
I a have sole custody of my daughter. My ex partner who as no parental responisibilty want to take my daughter to France. He is a French citizen with a French passport.For travel consent form giving my permission he is not willing to give me his passport details and other necessary information for me complete my consent form.
Imu 25/05/2013 at 7:20 pm
My wife, who seems to be suffering with depression, left 6 days ago and she also took our 5 year old daughter. She gave me no notice, and I have no idea where she is (except that she is in the UK). She is not answering her mobile when I call and answers few text messages. I do not know what she is upset about, what she want and what are her plans and how long I will be without her and my son.

Is this abduction? What can I do?
Paulisadad 23/04/2013 at 10:24 pm
My wife of 12 years went on holiday to Tunisia With her best friend in September 2012on that holiday she got pregnant to a Tunisia Barman. on the 5th dec 2012 she took my 5 year Old little girl to live with the father of her unbornBaby they lived with him in Tunisia 21 days I never had contactWith my little girl. I reported her missing to the policeBut was told I was just a ex husband that wanted his wife backAnd controlling she never told me she was pregnant or that sheHad a passport without me knowing for my daughterNow she's. weeks away from given birth. In a Woman hostel in Wigan with my little girlMe. And my 2 boys 10-8. Who she left with meI had to go to the high court to get my daughters passport takenoff the ex. and a travel ban in placeBut that ends In June And I don't get legal aidShe has legal aid. And I really believe she's planingOn returning to Tunisia when she has her babyShe's lied about so many things and is in contactWith the baby's dad. And I am helpless as just lost my job. no legal aid she's going toTake my daughter and I can't stop herThe law is wrong. As she will lie again as she has inThe past Any help would be gratefully recieved
stretch 25/01/2013 at 11:50 pm
If I keep my children when I get them can my ex wife do anything even if my kids want to stay with me at my house
Midnite09 01/09/2012 at 5:31 pm
Myself and my ex partner split on february,which resulted in me moving out of the house we shared 2gether with the kids.in the proceeding mnths,she has moved from here to there with the kids,but always in Scotland.then I found out that she has permenantly moved down to wales with the kids.i never new this until long after the fact.i have not given up my rights as a father,in fact,it's completely the opposite,I am desperate to see them,but she is point blank refusing to allow that,not telling me anything about them or sending me any pics if them either.now I have bn told that by scottish law,she shouldn't have taken the kids out of scoland without asking for my consent,can anyone clarify if this is infact the case,as I am so desperate to see my kids.
harrs 13/03/2012 at 8:36 pm
I have split from ex whom I share 2 kids with,(2&4 years old). We weren't married bit I have parental responsibility and want to take my 4 year old on holiday to Spain to see my parents. My ex doesn't like my parents and is refusing to give me consent to take my daughter. Is this reasonable grounds and do I have any rights? I take my daughters 1 day a week and always buy them what they need on top of paying 20% of my salary every month. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Kip 07/12/2011 at 2:12 pm
'Abduction' is a legal fiction because a parent cannot 'abduct' their own child. Although lawyers are keen to say that 'no law is gender bias' all too often the courts are willing to recognise this legal fiction when it applies to fathers and not so keen when mothers are the guilty party.
SAD 06/12/2011 at 2:42 pm
My ex wife obtained prohibited steps order against me, I have handed the passports to the court. What if I want go for a holiday with my kids? I just came back from my holiday with my son. When we arrived I found a court order not to remove the kids from mother's care. How I can go for holiday with my kids if she refused.
caljo 08/11/2011 at 12:31 am
I have seperated with my ex and have parental responsibility for my two children. We all live in Wales and my childs mother is planning to move to Scotland with my children. Does she have to have my consent to do this?
tony 17/10/2011 at 9:58 pm
I have parental responsibility for my daughter who is 11yrs old. My parents have a villa in Spain where I wish to take her for a holiday in the summer but her mother is being unreasonable and will not agree to it. I have access with my child and travel 50 miles each way to have her stay with me at weekends I have done this since getting parental responsibility in 2004. Access is going well and my daughter has said many times that she would like to spend time with her grandparents in Spain for a holiday. What can I do as I need her mothers consent for a passport and to take her out of the country for a holiday. I feel she is being deprived of having a great holiday. I work hard but don't have a large income and can't afford excessive solicitors fees. What are my options?
benjo 30/05/2011 at 5:36 pm
Would like to know where I stand on my rights? My ex partner and mother of our 4yr old son has started a new relationship and is thinkin of moving them down to Wales from Eastbourne, England. I'm against this as it would ruin the relationship between my son and I, please help.

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