Paternal Grandparents' Rights

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Paternal Grandparents' Rights

The role grandparents play

Grandparents often form some of the closest bonds in a child's life. Many provide regular childcare while parents work, and some spend more time with grandchildren during the week than the parents themselves do.

This involvement creates strong relationships that matter to both generations. When a couple separates, paternal grandparents can find themselves suddenly cut off from grandchildren they helped raise. Thousands of families across the UK face this situation each year, and the grief of losing contact with a grandchild you helped raise is real and valid.

Knowing your legal position can help you decide how to move forward, though the path is rarely simple.

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What the law says about grandparents' rights

Grandparents in England and Wales do not have automatic legal rights to see their grandchildren. Parental responsibility sits with the parents, which usually means anyone named on the birth certificate. They are the ones with direct legal authority over decisions about the child.

This can feel harsh, but it does not mean grandparents have no options. The law allows grandparents to apply for a court order to spend time with their grandchildren. The process involves two stages.

  • First, you need permission from the court to make the application. This is called leave to apply.
  • If leave is granted, you can then apply for a Child Arrangements Order setting out when you will see the child.

Courts consider several factors when deciding whether to grant leave, including the nature of your existing relationship with the grandchild, the potential disruption to the child's life, and any concerns raised by the parents. Having a close bond with your grandchild helps your case, but the decision is never automatic, and each application turns on its own facts.

When deciding any application, the court's main concern is the welfare of the child. Judges will consider factors including the existing relationship, the child's wishes and feelings where they are mature enough to express them, and any reasons the parents may have for opposing contact.

Courts take children's views into account based on their maturity and understanding rather than a fixed age. A younger child who can clearly articulate their feelings may be heard, while an older child's preferences are weighed alongside other considerations. A child's view is one factor among several.

Your situation may be slightly different. ask a question below ↓ and our editorial team will reply with our advice.

Trying to sort things out without going to court

Court should generally be a last resort. Before making an application, you must attend a Mediation Information and Assessment Meeting, known as a MIAM. This requirement is mandatory unless an exemption applies, such as in cases involving domestic abuse or where the other party cannot be contacted. The meeting is a short session where a mediator explains the process and assesses whether mediation might work for your situation.

Mediation involves sitting down with a trained mediator to try to reach an agreement with the child's parents. It costs less than court proceedings and tends to be quicker. Many families reach arrangements through mediation that hold up over time. However, mediation requires both parties to engage willingly, and it cannot resolve every dispute. Where one side refuses to participate meaningfully, or where the relationship has broken down completely, mediation may not produce results.

The Family Mediation Council has a directory of accredited mediators across the UK. Some people qualify for legal aid to cover mediation costs, depending on their financial circumstances.

Getting legal advice

Family law can be complicated, and every case has its own details. If you are thinking about applying for contact with grandchildren, speaking to a family solicitor is sensible. Many offer a free initial consultation.

You can find a solicitor through the Law Society's online search tool. Citizens Advice also provides free guidance on family matters and can point you towards local services.

For general information on Child Arrangements Orders and how family courts work, GOV.UK has guidance that explains the process step by step.

Losing contact with grandchildren is difficult. The legal route takes time and outcomes are uncertain. But options do exist, and many grandparents have rebuilt relationships through the courts when other approaches have failed.

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SeparatedDads Editor 03/07/2026 at 10:32 pm
@jlasswade Hi Jane, this sounds incredibly stressful, but your son needs to get straight on the phone to his family solicitor today and flag the new allegation before it derails the court process. He should cooperate fully with any police enquiry, keep a written log of every handover, missed contact and communication, and avoid confronting the mother directly. His solicitor can also apply back to the Sheriff for enforcement of the existing contact order and raise the pattern of repeated allegations. Grandparents in Scotland can seek a contact order too, so worth asking about that.
jlasswade 03/07/2026 at 10:21 pm
my son and his wife now divorced with a 7 year old son. There has been a custody battle going on through the courts for approximately the last 3 to 4 years which we thought was about to come to an end with the Sheriff soon making her decision. Things progressed from the mother refusing to let any of us see his son to my son having him over the weekend then this stopped for a period of time as the mother made false allegations which were investigated via the court as far as I am aware. The court then allowed my son to have his son Alfie from Monday after school to Wednesday when he dropped him back at school in the morning. This has been going reasonably well up until this the start of this week when he attempted to pick up his son and was told by the mother and her ne partner that she had been advised by the police not to let him go with my son. on trying to find out what was going on my son has been told that the mother has indeed reported him to the police saying that he has been in the past touching his son in a unappropriated way i.e. touching his private parts.

She has previously made similar accusations which as far as I am aware were investigated by social services

What is the best route for my son to take

Regards
Jane
SeparatedDads Editor 24/05/2026 at 9:18 am
@Angie Driving past the school to catch a glimpse isn't illegal in itself, but be careful. If you're spotted regularly, or if the parents complain, you could end up accused of harassment, and that would seriously hurt any future application for contact. Honestly, the better route is applying to the family court for permission to seek a Child Arrangements Order. Two years is a long time, and a solicitor offering a free half hour could really help.
Angie 09/06/2023 at 6:04 pm
I haven’t seen my grandson for two years he was 8 when I last saw him , we use to have him every weekend . Dad not really a good dad . My question is if I drove past his school just to see him not approach him would I be breaking the law . Thank you
Carol Harris 18/05/2023 at 8:44 pm
My stepson has a son with his ex, she is a control freak, is paranoid due to excessive drug use prior to her pregnancy, he is only allowed to see his son at her house and is not allowed to take him out alone. He is not himself at all and does exactly what he is told where this son is concerned and will not run the risk of going to court as she would prevent him access whilst waiting for court dates, he says this would kill him so he can't do it. The child has not been socialised at all (is nearly 3) and only sees his Mum, Dad when allowed and her parents and her Grandfather.He has been diagnosed with level 2 autism but receives very little stimulation.

The only reason we are not allowed to see the child is that we would not do as we were told to by her, something her own parents do to prevent the child being withdrawn from them.

We have real concerns for our Grandson but it seems legally we are not in a position to do anything about it, can anyone give us some advice please? Please don't suggest talking to her or mediation she would not speak to us and would refuse mediation.

It seems like a form of abuse to us, are there any routes open to us in England?

Thank you
t 18/04/2023 at 4:14 pm
both parents and both children do not want a relationship with the grandma!! she threatened to lock our 5 year old in the house alone and then blamed our 8 year old for grassing her up thi resulted in our 8 year old needing cahms therapy as she was panicked that everyone hated her and was scared the grandma would call nack to the house and tell her off so we said she could only see the children supervised she refused and has taken us tp court. there are no safeguarding issues or welfare issues with these kidd they are very well looked after. how likely that she will gain contact even though the children do nit wish to see her?
Mimi 24/05/2022 at 4:42 am
My son and his wife had my grand daughter when they was 18 And both of them was heavy into drug's. ( but so was her mother ) Her mother had R most of the time when she was born keeping her from my son, and his family but her daughter could visit. 3 years later my grandson was was born ( sadly he was born an addict) when my grandson was about 10 months she filed for temporary custody of both kids. No matter how hard I tried to see them I was shot down !! She would tell me yes then when I showed up to get them the law was called ?? this went on for a couple years. Then when kids was 5 and 2 she invited both parents over for dinner ( there was lots of drinking and other things ) at this time papers was signed by both to terminate their parental rights. Nasty trick but she did it !
I haven’t seen them since. So to make a long story short my daughter-in-law passed away of a drug overdose in 2020. Two weeks after that her younger sister committed suicide by a drug overdose. Two months after that their stepfather passed away of a massive heart attack. And this past March 13 of 2022 her mother passed away from cirrhosis of the liver and other complications I’m not sure of. So this left my two grandkids with no guardian. But my son is now 37 years old he has put the drug life behind him he has a good stable job and has been this way for about five years. We went to the courts and a plied for emergency custody only to be told that he signed his rights away 12 years ago and he is no longer considered their biological father. What the hell is this they said that because I was a complete stranger to these children they would not place them in my custody at this time . But yet they’re in foster care I just don’t understand !
Plz help !!!
Millie 12/10/2021 at 11:28 am
Please can you help my son n partner split she was bad on heavy drugs her parents have taken our grandaughter n won't let us have access my son has tried to take his own life now on medication.. but carnt get any help to see her they say they've got grandparents rights he is on birth certificate.. mother not interested is there anything we can do before this gets theyve even changed nursery without him been consented thankyou
Sharon21h 02/09/2021 at 6:46 am
I have 2 grandchildren who have been our lives for the past 10 years.. my son and there mother are separated and have been for 6 years.. its been a real roller coaster with her dictating when my son sees them. Changing her mind if it doesn't.t suit her. She has now blocked all our contact with her when they are with her and we only see them when they with our son, she won't allow them to ring us or message us.. this breaks my heart as I want them to be able to contact us anytime they want too, and we want them to knw they have grandparents who want to spend more time with them. She will poison them against us as she as done this to her own family..
Pat 10/08/2021 at 7:40 pm
I had my grandson and his girlfriend living with me when she got pregnant. I bought everything the baby ever needed his pram,cot,clothes, nappies and his milk I helped look after him and eventually doing everything for him that was for 3 years he is my life I gave him all the love he needed and I still do. My grandson and his girlfriend split and she left the baby here with his dad ,my daughter my grandsons mother took them to her house now she has an interim order for the baby she made his bedroom in a cupboard with no window and thinks this is OK.she has started ignoring us when we ask if we can have him for the day .he screams when we take him back or if they pick him up .
Diane 13/07/2021 at 7:13 pm
My grandson has lived with us since 2015 threw a residence order he is now 8yrs old and mum thinks it's best if he went to live with her now he is doing great at school and had no problems living with us so what's the chances of her getting custody back please can someone help here my heart is breaking he has also lived in our home since the day he was born so it's like bringing up your own thankyou to anyone who can enlighten me please
Granny33 20/02/2021 at 11:36 pm
Hi
Can anyone advise me .. I’m a grandmother who has custody of my grandchild .
My grandchild by order of court has a over night stay once a week and order states maternal grandparents return my grandchild .. the maternal grandmother has remarried is her partner classed as maternal grandparent .. I understood that maternal grandparents are the mothers parents .. so is new partner also classed as maternal to bring grandchild home or should it just be the child’s mother’s mother ..
So confused
Mummy 29/01/2021 at 10:40 am
So my daughters father isn’t on the birth certificate or anything he had a little bit of contact when she was born but that was it as he was abusive. My daughter was seeing her paternal grandparents at first sometimes but they always made me feel pressured to let her dad see her. I just ended up stopping the contact and now they’re saying they want to take me to court even though they constantly slag me off and I don’t want that around my daughter. My daughter is now 1 years old and hasn’t seen them for a couple of months now, do you actually have any rights to see her and if it went to court do I actually have to attend?
She 19/08/2020 at 12:09 pm
Is my granddaughter who I gave limited access to through the court due to breakdown of relationship with my daughter able to see me whenever she wants after the age of 16 ??
Angie 18/07/2020 at 1:01 am
My daughter she had a little girl when she was 17 years old the father's in jail for attempted murder and my granddaughters for she's going to be 5 and the mother is always out and about not working she gets EBT and food stamps and she pays me $200 for rent and $35 for the phone and the rest of the money which is almost $500 goes I don't know where she doesn't buy anything for her child or nothing of food stamps will make sure that her friends are taken care of before she buys anything for the house I'm taking care of my granddaughter by myself I buy her clothes and toys and I give her a good home I bring it to school I'll pick her up I take her to the doctors and everything today I went to the dentist to make an appointment and they told me that I need to have permission from the mother when I asked the mother to write me a letter she thinks I want to take the baby away from her and I told her no I just want to care for her I don't want you EBT I don't want your food stamps I just want to take care of the baby I want to make sure she goes to the doctor I want to make sure if in case of an emergency something that says that I can do this and she's not listen she doesn't care what do I do as a grandparent I need help to take care of this beautiful little girl I've been raising almost by myself
Jaz 08/07/2020 at 2:59 pm
Hello there,
I was 7 when my mother passed away, and 12 when my father walked out and wanted nothing to do with us, my mothers parents went through the courts and gained custody of me and my sister and have since lived with them.
My Nan said to me the other day that my father has never paid child support to them, not one penny.
I wanted to ask whether they have a legal right to that money? And how I go about dealing with it?
Any help is appreciated, thank you.
Gwenzo 22/05/2020 at 7:13 pm
Please advise!!
I have just shared my papers with the court and my ex solicitor to get access to my 4 month old son, firstly, she has lied so much and I believe I'm not allowed to take anything else to the court.
Secondly, she says she only wants me on my own to see my son for the first 6 weeks to build a bond and not my family! Surely my family HIS family are important too? Please help!
Mum 10/05/2020 at 1:24 pm
I want to write a hand written will stating that if I die before my children I would like my mum to be legal guardian of my son. He hasn’t seen his dad in over 2 years he’s only 4 but fathers on birth certificate. What can I do?
Craig 17/04/2020 at 1:21 pm
Hi, I have seperated from my wife and have had to go back and live with my mother.I have ask my ex to see my children and she has agreed only if I do not let then see my mother, which means asking my mother to leave the house when they come. Can my ex demand this?
Abs 12/04/2020 at 7:26 am
My son had a heated argument with husband and now my son has cut us off from seeing our grandchildren. We looked after our grandson from 6.30 to 5.30 twice a week every week so my son and his partner could go to work. My husband had a lovely relationship as did I with our grandson. We are heartbroken,I have tried texting every week but I get no reply, we live 6minutes from where my son lives but my son’s partner has been to our house maybe 5 times in 5yrs. Last February my husband and son had a terrible argument and both said terrible things to one another,after that I left it for a couple of weeks before asking if we could see our Grandchildren( our Grandaugter is 9months old and we have only seen her three times since she was born last July). My son’s reply was No! and that he didn’t think we we were stable? which is so out of order,we are great grandparents! This all came about from this argument and seemingly they won’t budge. I have sent presents for birthdays and Easter,I text my son every week to tell him how much we love him and his family, even giving my son money and yes he accepted it but he won’t let us see our Granchildren. I have tried saying that Grandchildren need both Maternal and Paternal Grandparents but the last message he sent me was devestating to me and my husband. My son said “L never asks after you”. It has cut us to pieces,when for two years we took care of him his son and his home,I cleaned washed and ironed for them and this is how we have been repaid.We have taken our Grandson son out every week never taken a penny even though it has cost us thousands £’s. I just cannot believe That my son has turned on us so Cruelly. We are Heartbroken!
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